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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 12:27pm On Aug 02, 2020
OriakuAmara:

emotional torment by neverdowells?
you confuse Igbos with proud Igbos, proud Igbos don't give a hoot about you guys because you bring nothing to the table both in producing tecnorats, business men, money , exposure etc.
u guys are free to have ur own tribe but not with Igboid identities, since 1967 you lots have been trying over this but keep failing and will continue to fail

If you go to streets of Enugu and interview random 100 Igbos in the busy streets. Not up to 3 will know that there is an ethnic group called Ikwerre. But 100% will know Yorubas or Ibibio.
Most Igbos don't know there is a group somewhere called Ikwerre.
They sure know of PH. But they don't know Ikwerre. The assumption is that they are all Ndi mbamili (same as Ijaws).
The average Igbo man don't know Ikwerre exists, until he visits PH and gets exposed to Ikwerre Igbophobia.

It's IPOB that is putting Ikwerres on the spotlight with the Igweocha capital nonsense and Ohanaeze that still have them in the organization that is making a mole into a mountain.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by 24SEVEN: 12:32pm On Aug 02, 2020
OriakuAmara:
sorry you are talking to Oriaku Amara, go through my account and know me very well

Look at this Mgbeke. Abeg go and park well. Who you.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by IkwerrePikin: 12:33pm On Aug 02, 2020
OriakuAmara:

so pained
isoma means stranger, even many IMO communities use the term just like ngwas use "Ohuhu" to refer to Strangers.
you lots are descendants of Arochykwu slaves, fullstop

That’s why i said ikwerre language have it’s uniqueness different from igbo language.

Same word “Isoma” different meaning in ikwerre and igbo.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by OriakuAmara(f): 12:52pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:


Look at this Mgbeke. Abeg go and park well. Who you.
my happiness is that your fathers were under identity crisis, you the sons are still under it and your coming generation will still be under it,
looks like a generational curse.
its a pity.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by 24SEVEN: 12:56pm On Aug 02, 2020
OriakuAmara:

my happiness is that your fathers were under identity crisis, you the sons are still under it and your coming generation will still be under it,
looks like a generational curse.
its a pity.

Akunakuna Amarachi, stop crying over Ikwerre identity. We can come from Fulani. e no concern you. stop wailing.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by 24SEVEN: 1:14pm On Aug 02, 2020
Igboid:


Hating them back will make them keep their hate in check knowing that we can also hurt them without any blink and that we don't consider them kins and therefore will never hesitate in dealing with their excesses.
It keeps everyone in check and good for peace.

Ikwerres are not Igbos. Believe me, I have lived with and studied these people. Everything about Ikwerre except their language, names and traditional institutions, scream non Igbo.

Ikwerre independence from Ndiigbo MUST be supported and reinforced by Igbo nationalists to keep the Igbo safe from the hate emanating from those people.


The threads upon threads to wail about Ikwerres is on perpetual mode.

Ikwerre don't care about Igbo brotherhood. We no send una. If you don't like our Igbophobia, kindly cross boundary back to wherever you came from

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:22pm On Aug 02, 2020
SexSkillz:
I just don't understand these zeta Jews anymore.

You stated that the Ikweres are descendants of freed slaves who were captured by Igbo slave raiders from across Igbo land awaiting to be shipped but set freed by the British.

You then stated this is why the Ikweres reject the Igbo nationality and then go on to insult them for rightfully rejecting you.

I have read so many times here how you Igbos boast about not being submissive and slavish to any race, power or man.

The Ikwere rejection of Igbo is this in line with that same Igbo spirit .

The history narrated by OP is correct as I have heard and read about how the Ikwere people came to settle in Rivers.

The entire Bini narrative is false.

The Ikweres to my understanding have divorced themselves from the Igbos and have forged a better history for themselves rather than accept the bitter pill that their own kit and kin betrayed and sold them into slavery.

In as much as this is the truth, you Igbo judades should let them be and concentrate on your 5 boundary states and your Jewish allies.



I don't see anything wrong in selling ikwerres into slavery.


If slave trade, comes back today, we will sale more to make up for losses in the past.....this is business.


Imagine our stock standing unsold for years



damn it
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:22pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:



The threads upon threads to wail about Ikwerres is on perpetual mode.

Ikwerre don't care about Igbo brotherhood. We no send una. If you don't like our Igbophobia, kindly cross boundary back to wherever you came from

I'm yet to see any Igbo man or official claiming Ikwerre publicly.
But we have Ikwerre frauds like Amaechi, Okwukwu, all trying hard to impersonate Igbos.

You tribeless people have also refused to give up your current Igbo language and names and it's distorted forms you call Ikwerre language and names and relearn your Bini language and start taking Bini names too.

This is all we are saying you do. Stop trying to impersonate Ndiigbo. Embrace your Bini and Yoruba selves. Your ancestors might have cowered and suffered from inferiority complex when they heard Igbo ancestors speak Igbo that made them drop their Bini /Yoruba language and names for the current Igbo ones you have.
But you current Ikwerre generation have the wherewithal to reverse their inferiority complex induced mistakes.
You can employ Bini language teachers and change your names back to Bini ones.

Because, Ndiigbo will not stop dragging you around and disgracing you, until you have done the above.

You are so pathetic that you depend on Ndiigbo for language and names. How useless can you be? Even Ogonis as small as they are retained their language, but your slow ancestors couldn't retain yours.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by HopeAtHand: 1:24pm On Aug 02, 2020
OriakuAmara:

emotional torment by neverdowells?
you confuse Igbos with proud Igbos, proud Igbos don't give a hoot about you guys because you bring nothing to the table both in producing tecnorats, business men, money , exposure etc.
u guys are free to have ur own tribe but not with Igboid identities, since 1967 you lots have been trying over this but keep failing and will continue to fail

You're flogging a dead horse. Ikwerre has no affiliation with Igbo. We have a distinct identity. Our language regardless of closeness with Igbo remains our language. Don't stress yourself over issues you have no control over. The Ikwerre language, culture and traditions will remain Ikwerre identity. Learn to live with it.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:25pm On Aug 02, 2020
For as long as you continue impersonating Ndiigbo by refusing to go back to your Bini names and language.
Ndiigbo will keep disgracing you and make sure you realize how weak, inferior and retarded you are for having to use Igbo language, names and culture and not Bini ones.

The joke is on you.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:27pm On Aug 02, 2020
HopeAtHand:


You're flogging a dead horse. Ikwerre has no affiliation with Igbo. We have a distinct identity. Our language regardless of closeness with Igbo remains our language. Don't stress yourself over issues you have no control over. The Ikwerre language, culture and traditions will remain Ikwerre identity. Learn to live with it.

The language can't be yours.

Because you are Binis and Binis don't speak Igbo or Igbo related names.
You are slow shameless copy cats.

As a Bini, you should be speaking an Edoid language and not Igbo one. Take a look at Epie Attisa. As small they are, they retained their Edoid language.

Employ Bini language teachers and cure your shame.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:29pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:


Look at this Mgbeke. Abeg go and park well. Who you.



Shut it...You have no right to insult daughter of the soil.....a proud one.


If you can't reply her with facts then don't dare insult her....Adadioranma for that matter..


Mr be guided.
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:37pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:


Look at this ewu. so it is that whøre called Amarachi you are vouching for. That silly thing who is angry that Ikwerre doesn't carry Asa along in Rivers State is the one you're calling Daughter of soil. Which soil? biko nzuzu ebea puo.

Nolu jii! Amarachi bu ezinne and Ada Igbo.

Her opinions matters.

Every single Igbo should be angry about how Ikwerre has oppressed Asa and Ndoki in Rivers because the people will not drop their Igbo tag.

You lots are evil and Igbos are only startingto zero in on you. We will treat your Bleep up very well.

We are cooking something special for you lots, when we are done, you will never finish the food.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:37pm On Aug 02, 2020
HopeAtHand:


You're flogging a dead horse. Ikwerre has no affiliation with Igbo. We have a distinct identity. Our language regardless of closeness with Igbo remains our language. Don't stress yourself over issues you have no control over. The Ikwerre language, culture and traditions will remain Ikwerre identity. Learn to live with it.


there bini youths looking for work employ them as teachers.
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:40pm On Aug 02, 2020
MelesZenawi:



there bini youths looking for work employ them as teachers.

Exactly.

The loud mouthed Wike went to visit Oba Bini. We at least expected him to change to his real ancestral Bini name. Something like Osagie, and then beseech the Oba for cheap Bini language tutors to go back to his Rumu villages with him and teach his people their original language.

But alas, he returned home empty handed.

Ndi uchu!

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:45pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:


Look at this ewu. so it is that whøre called Amarachi you are vouching for. That silly thing who is angry that Ikwerre doesn't carry Asa along in Rivers State is the one you're calling Daughter of soil. Which soil? biko nzuzu ebea puo.


Has it reached to this extent of name calling and verbal attacks??
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by 24SEVEN: 1:46pm On Aug 02, 2020
Igboid:


Nolu jii! Amarachi bu ezinne and Ada Igbo.

Her opinions matters.

Every single Igbo should be angry about how Ikwerre has oppressed Asa and Ndoki in Rivers because the people will not drop their Igbo tag.

You lots are evil and Igbos are only startingto zero in on you. We will treat your Bleep up very well.

We are cooking something special for you lots, when we are done, you will never finish the food.



if you like cook Ofe Nsala for us. no shaking. Ikwerre gallant. No be Rivers State again? We have the state by the cruff. I dey pity Oyigbo people, na Dem go bear the brunt. Make I see wetin Anambra man or any SE Igbo wan do for Rivers. Na Ikwerre dey give una level for Rivers because of similarities. But we may have to reconsider some privileges given to Igbos.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by 24SEVEN: 1:49pm On Aug 02, 2020
MelesZenawi:


Has it reached to this extent of name calling and verbal attacks??
Meles Zenawi died since 2012.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:51pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:


Look at this ewu. so it is that whøre called Amarachi you are vouching for. That silly thing who is angry that Ikwerre doesn't carry Asa along in Rivers State is the one you're calling Daughter of soil. Which soil? biko nzuzu ebea puo.

Secondly, you attack her based on facts not verbal attacks.

the young lady has been a good advocate for ndigbo and you disparage her because she stands for igbos and with igbos.

Don't attack her because she believes in Igbo.

You are attacking her because she refused to cast aspersions on igbo...

once again be guided.
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:53pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:


Meles Zenawi died since 2012.


When did Oba of bini before ikwerre left bini to sojourn to their present location?
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Nobody: 1:55pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:



if you like cook Ofe Nsala for us. no shaking. Ikwerre gallant. No be Rivers State again? We have the state by the cruff. I dey pity Oyigbo people, na Dem go bear the brunt. Make I see wetin Anambra man or any SE Igbo wan do for Rivers. Na Ikwerre dey give una level for Rivers because of similarities. But we may have to reconsider some privileges given to Igbos.

Lol, ukpana chowa onwu obelu ugo na onu....


O biara onye onughi owuru ujo.....Lol.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:55pm On Aug 02, 2020
24SEVEN:



if you like cook Ofe Nsala for us. no shaking. Ikwerre gallant. No be Rivers State again? We have the state by the cruff. I dey pity Oyigbo people, na Dem go bear the brunt. Make I see wetin Anambra man or any SE Igbo wan do for Rivers. Na Ikwerre dey give una level for Rivers because of similarities. But we may have to reconsider some privileges given to Igbos.

Lol!

With 3.5 LGAs?

When Ndiigbo are ready and fully expel Ikwerre parasites in Ohanaeze Ndiigbo.
You will see how important numbers are in politics once we bring it to fore for Oyigbo.

The Riverine Ijaws want power and we want you cut to pieces.
I believe we can work out a deal.

Oyigbo will be fine. Those of us in the know are not unaware of your evil against them simply because they have refused to give up their Igbo tag like you forced the Etches into doing. You are innately evil.

Your pride will be your downfall. You will learn a very important lesson in time.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Igboid: 1:58pm On Aug 02, 2020
MelesZenawi:


Secondly, you attack her based on facts not verbal attacks.

the young lady has been a good advocate for ndigbo and you should disparage her because she stands for igbos and with igbos.

Don't attack her because she believes in Igbo.

You are attacking her because she refused to cast aspersions on igbo...

once again be guided.

That's what Ikwerres have done in Rivers state.

Any Igbo clan that accepts Igbo tag. Ikwerres will single them out for marginalization, cajoling, intimidation, victimization . They will sustain this pressure unrelentlessly until the clan beomes hapless and denounce Igbo just to survive in Rivers state.

They have failed at Asa and Ndoki in Rivers because the rest of Asa and Ndoki in Imo state made things too difficult for them.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Balogunodua(m): 4:17pm On Aug 02, 2020
Ooni:
[s]If you come to Ibadan, you see people speaking a single dialect. but an indept study will reveal several people with different origins such as ekiti, ibarapo, ijebu and even nupe which is why we made it our capital. Does it mean all Ibadan have a single origin? no.[/s]
Trash...

Be proud of your tribe Aba boy.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Balogunodua(m): 4:27pm On Aug 02, 2020
Ooni:
[s]nje o ka nkan ti mo ko? Did I say nupe is Yoruba?[/s]
Trash...

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by Balogunodua(m): 4:29pm On Aug 02, 2020
Ooni:
[s]for giving out unadulterated history?
Every sensible omoluabi knows that Ibadan rose when distinct group of Yorubas and non Yoruba's congregated to seek refuge from the southward surge of Fulani islamists. It didn't become a sudden large and unplanned city by a stroke of fortune. It was once described as the largest and oldest continuing refugee camp in the globe. The ban on history has affected our youths adversely.[/s]
Trash from a lost Ipob Jew..

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by bigfrancis21: 9:24pm On Aug 02, 2020
Ooni:
Someone mistakes Bonny for so-called Ikwerre. "so-called" because what is today called ikwerre just like anioma ibos , and like ekiti toois more of a cultural area than a people with common origin. They migrated from various various other areas in Iboland. for instance, the founder of isiokpo itself was a man called Okpo nwagidi said to come from Awka but there are still aro migrants in in isiokpo. Much of Obio akpor came from ngwa while areas such as Diobu, Elelenwa are much older settlements themselves. This just a reflection of cross migrations and settlement in the wider Iboland. this is why even among them there still exist variations in dialects. Do you even know there are Ikwerre settlements in about two towns Anambra?

Although there was no Ibo nationalism in precolonial times, it was clear that Igboland was a homogeneous entity and communities had no issue relating. It was clear also that pre-1970 when Ibo nationalism had started, the ikwerre like other Ibos were nationalistic. It is safe therefore to aver that the inertia to Ibo nationalism exhibited by many of them operates from the Nigerian state's systematic and consistent policy aimed at culturally disarticulating them from the Ibo whole.

I read books about our history, the ibo history and that of igala. This happed in yorubaland too
I noticed it as well, that Ikwerre dialects are like a mixture of dialects together. Some Ikwerre dialects have pronounced Owere influence, and some are more centralized, tending towards Anambra like ie. 'o malu mma', 'wene yi' (nwanne yi, the 'yi' being popular in Onitsha and environs).
Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by RedboneSmith(m): 10:05pm On Aug 02, 2020
bigfrancis21:

I noticed it as well, that Ikwerre dialects are like a mixture of dialects together. Some Ikwerre dialects have pronounced Owere influence, and some are more centralized, tending towards Anambra like ie. 'o malu mma', 'wene yi' (nwanne yi, the 'yi' being popular in Onitsha and environs).

Nobody says o malu mma in any Ikwerre dialect. It is o maru mma. Nobody says yi either.

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Re: Origin Of Ikwerre Denial Of Igbo Root! (A Political View) by bigfrancis21: 2:56am On Aug 03, 2020
RedboneSmith:


Nobody says o malu mma in any Ikwerre dialect. It is o maru mma. Nobody says yi either.

I’ve heard it severally in Ikwerre songs. Maybe they used Anambra influence in their songs but I could be wrong. One Ikwerre singer I listened to said,

‘akwa juwa gburu wene yi n’ihi iwai’ = ‘okwa ginwa gburu nwanne gi n’ihi ego’.

Another said, ‘o bu na I rige iji m ze ma enye yi iji’ = o buru na I na-eri ji, m ga-enye gi ji.

Etc.
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