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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:14pm On Aug 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: unstable false jw mad max you know you and rozz are liars, who do you think you are fooling: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:25pm On Aug 01, 2020 |
TATIME: ummmmmm rozz is using her big fat bum to torment me like someone into porn and prostution would do, is that true girlie tatime, or you just talking your natural talk of lying like your father and god the devil: john 8:44 You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 11:39pm On Aug 01, 2020 |
TATIME:Lols, are you afraid for her? The married old man wants to meet his e-crush. I really hope some people are honest with their words. Lols. I thought Rose isn't on Nairaland anymore? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:46pm On Aug 01, 2020 |
Maximus69: true christians don't constantly lie as their natural way of talking: john 8:44 You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies. habitual liar mad max your father and god the devil has blinded you: 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 12:07am On Aug 02, 2020 |
johnw47:keep deceiving yourself,smh |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by RemarkableMind: 12:24am On Aug 02, 2020 |
fairheart: Boss Fairheart, are you a Jehovah Witness? I read some of your posts 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 12:30am On Aug 02, 2020 |
RemarkableMind:Lol...I am a Christian but I liked the topic, which is why I left those comments you must have seen. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 12:33am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Peacefullove: You have been brainwashed and you can never understood the truth of God's word. Remain in your ignorance. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 12:34am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Order for my book, Scriptural Revelation of Hell and your eyes will be opened. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 12:36am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Maximus69: The devil is so happy because he has a sure candidate of Hell in you. You will understand when you get there. Your brain is so damaged such that no matter the Scripture evidences I give, you will still not understand. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:38am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Zzor: most duh unintelligent lie lie rozz point out the deception in my post fool Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:45am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Maximus69: john 8:44 You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies. habitual liar false jw mad max you see from the above verse that talking lies is the devil's natural way of talking and it's the same with you false jw's look at your above post: you lie and say i'm a church goer(in worse terms), when you know that i'm non denominational you lie and say i'm obsessed with sexy, attractive, lovely looking ladies, when fortunately i have no obsessions at all you lie and say i can't afford ,and have poverty, even though i have even said i am wealthy you lie and say i want to rewrite God's law to fit my mindset you and other false jw's lie like this all the time in very many of your posts and you repeat your lies over and over again, just once is not enough for a habitual liar truly you habitual liars will not enter God's Kingdom truly you habitual liars will be thrown into the lake of fire: Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. our Saviour the Lord Jesus Christ is the truth: Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. you liars truly have no part in Him, you have no Part in His Kingdom: and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:55am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Why can't your Holy Ghost answer for you now oo? Simple question someone asked you, you've called the person ‘brainwashed’ |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:58am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Sorry, you gave actual Scriptural evidences of a mythical “hell fire” ? Where? Biko how can you give evidence of what doesn't exist? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by thinkmoney(m): 1:38am On Aug 02, 2020 |
NuclearReactor:My brother. Christianity is corrupted..largely. It is fulfillment of prophecy. Trinity is a doctrine of Demons...if you read its thesis; it implies, infer or in many churches, explicitly insinuates that the father, son and holy spirit are of the same age (co-eternal), of the same substance (co-essence) and of the same authority/power(co-eval). But this ain't what the bible teaches! Who better to listen to on this matter than Jesus himself who on many occasions said that the father is bigger than him, he also said he was sent, he in another place said he has no authority safe the one given to him by the father, he even said there is at least one knowledge that he himself is not privy to, but that is only known by the father. Jesus even prayed to God and put faith in him. Satan that knows God once tried to bribe Jesus to betray God by worshipping him. So abeg... Its time to rid yourselves of Satan 'juju' (enchantment l) and open your eyes to see the truth and your mind to accept it. Flip all those aforementioned instances around and think if there is any place God said of himself lesser than Jesus? Can you even imagine God praying to Jesus? Stephen at his death was given a vision of heaven, where he saw the resurrected Jesus sat at the right hand side of God-a distinct and different entity. This was also a fulfillment of prophecy. What more. The bible made us know that Jesus was the first to be created. He was created! He even died at a point. Can you imagine God that the bible says never slumber deing? Please come out of Babylon. Turn your back to teachings that seek to confuse the very nature of God, doctrines that infuriates God. No proponents of trinity can logically expect to be viewed acceptably by God. Or can someone say you are of the same age and authority with your son and maybe also with your PA and you will rate the person high? 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:32am On Aug 02, 2020 |
lie lie rozz once when i said you have nothing intelligent to say you replied that you had plenty to say earlier lie lie rozz, you had nothing intelligent to say earlier, your opening post is copied from the internet and you didn't give credit to the source, hence letting all think it's your words, oh phony plagerist and liar: Rozz: https://www.nairaland.com/5885909/im-beginning-reason-jehovah-witness#90016959 britannica dot com: https://www.britannica.com/topic/Trinity-Christianity |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:34am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Great so let me get there first! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 5:51am On Aug 02, 2020 |
fairheart:You can only pity this old man by telling her (Rozz) that he's married and too old for her simple! Fernando (my last son) is two years older than Rozz, i'm trying to see if she can start a Bible study with JWs in the FCT where she stays. I've noticed how much you liked her but just try to be specific about your stand and wait for the lady who will love you for who you are! I've tried all tactics to make Rozz understand that i'm a grandpa but she kept making advances, Tatime told me at a wedding parlour party last week that the young woman knows exactly the kind of man she wants so i need to send her my pics to make her know she's been chatting with an old man, which i did. So please i'm not blocking you from reaching her, and i think i've revealed a little about the young woman. Now you know where to find her and her age range, i'll be happy for her if she finds true love that she truly deserve, just learn to become intelligent and see how intelligent ladies like Rozz will fall in love with you. God bless you! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:03am On Aug 02, 2020 |
fairheart: This is where you can irritate intelligent persons, the one asking already knew JWs also claims to be Christians but totally differs from all others. So if you can't provide a straightforward answer, no intellectual will take you serious. Next time when you want to answer such a question don't feel intimidated thinking you may not be accepted, just say "YES" or "NO" then mention the name of your church, that's the first sign that proves you're bold and confident with your stand! A piece of wise counsel from an old man! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:12am On Aug 02, 2020 |
@Fairheart. This is the first comment she made when she returned back to the thread, and i've also seen some of her mails sent to Maximus. So i can tell you specifically now that i'm no more in doubt seeing young ladies falling in love with older men. She just wish Maximus69 is single so she could have the old man! Zzor: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 11:35am On Aug 02, 2020 |
TATIME:lol,i play around alot so don't be carried away |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 11:38am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Why do u run away from the question ? Since you are not brainwashed , Tell us what is in hell A- Body B- Soul C- Body and soul Or else you wanna show the world how deep in Ignorance you are . |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 11:39am On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: Since your eyes is opened, are u blind to the Fact that those who died in the sea Are not in hell ? If u can't answer that, shows that book is full of propaganda. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 2:08pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Jonah was swallowed by the fish but the Bible revealed that his soul went to hell. He was in the belly of hell. Read Jonah 2:6. "And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the BELLY OF HELL cried I, and thou heardest my voice" Or you want to tell me that the fish belly is hell? And it couldn't have been a physical grave because nobody saw his body for the three days. So, please give your own honest explanation of the verse. Which hell is the Bible talking about? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 2:10pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Maximus69: OK. Enjoy your torment. You will regret the day your mother gave birth to you. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 2:10pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
TATIME: Well, is it suffice to say the damsel and the married old man (who she is yet to meet) are flirting? Perhaps! Given the nature of their interactions on this thread so far, it's enough to say there's a bond whether they are taken seriously or not. Nevertheless, it is none of my business! I was just wondering as to why you are questioning if she want to meet him privately, but I understand your concern now. You don't have research fact to back it up that ladies are falling in love with older men these days, and using Rose to make that conclusion is not factual because people usually exude persona on social media...knowing well that nobody knows their true background. But should you have seen cases where ladies fall in love with older men, it's because of what they can get from the elderly men and vice versa. Rarely is it because of genuine love and inwardly-deriving affection. No beautiful lady with demand and proposals from able, handsome and financially-viable young men would date 70 years old men except it's for their money or the wealth they're leaving behind when they die. But it's not my business |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:13pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ: OK Sir! 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 2:17pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
DappaD: If it doesn't exist, the Bible will not talk about it. There are 66 Scriptures in the Bible where the word hell is mentioned in the King James translation. Read them all and you will notice it's always mentioned with reference to suffering, sorrows and punishment of lost souls. You just pretend not to be aware of them. This is why I always say that the Jehovah Witness is an anti Christ organization. They only use Scriptures that appears to support their pre conceived opinions and ignore many more others that vividly contradicts them. This is spiritual fraud. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 2:23pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Ken4Christ:Alright chief. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 2:25pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
Maximus69: Intimidated? Do you really think I felt rejected when you said I am not your brother because I don't belong to JW sect? NA!! It is either that you're a young man or old age is worrying you sir . Church membership or denomination is non-existence in what validates me. I said I'm a Christian because I'm not interested in denominational bullshit that religious people are known for. Which denomination did John the beloved belonged? Which denomination did Peter belonged? Were these disciples known by their denomination or as Christians? You know the answer! I have made it clear to you that I don't want to be identified by a denomination but by the content of my character and the extent of my intelligence and contribution in life. Jehovah Witness membership, RCCG membership, Deeper Life membership, Christ embassy membership, etc, add no iota of assurance to your salvation. On Judgement day, God would not ask any of us: Which denomination did you belong? He would ask: How did you live the life I gave to you? He would look at records, NOT denomination! The earlier you accept this truth, the better for you. Neither you nor your sect/denomination is infallible! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Ken4Christ: 2:33pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
When it comes to religious matters we have to use our heads sometimes.Trinity, in Christian doctrine is the unity of the father ,son and holy spirit as three persons in one Godhead. The doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be one of central christian affirmations about God. It is rooted in the fact that God came to meet christians in a threefold figure as (1) There creator,Lord,Father and judge as revealed in the old testament (2)as the lord who incarnated in figure of Jesus Christ who lived among human beings (3)As the holy spirit whom they experienced as the helper or intercessor in the power of new life.But neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.Did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew scriptures(Deutronomy 6:4).I have started asking my pastors some questions regarding that,but he only warned me to be very careful of JW. lol Don't get confused. Besides the ordinary man cannot fully understand the nature of God. We are limited in knowledge in every way. But the best summary of the Godhead is in two passages; Ephesians 4:4-6 4 There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. 1 Corinthians 8:6 But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him. These Scriptures are enough. Please don't ever believe or follow the doctrines of Jehovah Witness. They are not Christians. They are anti Christ. They deny the deity of Christ and his bodily resurrection. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 2:37pm On Aug 02, 2020 |
fairheart: This is why i said most people like you don't understand what love truly means, and i'm beginning to see why many of you young guy that came for her couldn't get her! She fell in love with Maximus69 not because she has seen him nor gotten any information about him, but due to his intelligence. That's why bàbá kept telling her that he's old enough to be her dad but the young woman keep imagining Maximus to be a young man. So where is the evidence that she's after the wealth she can't even confirm? So you missed this one o, if they're going to meet maybe tomorrow. Because they're not staying in the same state. I must confess that i learnt a lot from this experience, now i know true love is not about sight but something from the heart! I knew Maximus here on Nairaland and he got baptized 2 years ago after a long study with JWs, but i've learnt a lot from him due to his military experience. We often visit each other as we both reside in Lagos. Rozz so much prefer intelligence not youthful vigor and she confessed it publicly! |
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