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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:02am On Aug 05, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: I would not say that. Mourinho is a manager that is tactically astute, strategic and great at building teams, in this regard OUTSTANDING. However, he is not a coach, Rogers is a manager and a coach. He develops he molds and improves players in some regards creates players, he pushes them to the next level with individual one on one coaching to improve them and their role in the team. Then he knits them into a team after talking an average player he transforms the player to another level. Unfortunately Mourinho cannot do that in many regards Mourinho destroys players, forcing them to become what they are not and in the end he discards them. Mourinho looks for ready made players not playere he can make. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by feelme2020: 10:09am On Aug 05, 2020 |
For once i agree with you Komekn. He does not develop players from scratch and this is what i noticed about him. komekn: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 10:09am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: Well, i just want to point out something To each his own You might not rate Maguire but a world class defender Pique does Speaking to the Express, Pique cemented the notion that United did the right thing in investing in the former Leicester City defender, drawing comparisons to two big defenders: “It happened before with Van Dijk (for Liverpool) and before about ten years ago with Rio Ferdinand. Culturally they (English clubs) invest a lot in good defenders and Harry Maguire is a great defender. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:10am On Aug 05, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: I have talked about this for some time. How many second tier league can compete with the quality of the top level of the Championship. However many second tier leagues have World class coaches and managers for example Bielsa, Benitez, Cocu, etc. Is there any team in second tier league of Europe that is technically better or you think that can even beat them. Finally, best players follow the money, this always the way. Look at the entire transfer expenditure of the Segunda División and look at Fulham transfer expenditure. That tells a story. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:14am On Aug 05, 2020 |
JayromWrites: Where did pique say maguire is world class ? 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:24am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn: Any second tier can have world class coaches as far as you can pay up Coaches do leave European football and go to Asia for more money so that’s not an issue Spanish second division can not afford to even pay their players well let alone having world class coaches Should I remind you that Benitez was even earning better salary with Newcastle in the championship than what some coaches are earning in the epl ? Anthony Knockaert left Brighton to join Fulham in the championship in a more lucrative deal If you doubt me google is there for you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 10:25am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Happy birthday Jamilu Collins 18 Likes 3 Shares
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:26am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: I have said this before statistics is only half the story not the full story. Statistics are indicative and not conclusive. Do you know Zaha statistics in some areas are not impressive but without Zaha Crystal Palace would probably be battling with relegation. There are no stats to measure how a player drives his whole team forward, influences the team positively and is the center of what they do. You need to watch players in full games and if you can in training to get a more comprehensive picture. If you go right back l said that out of Eze, Oviemuno in my opinion Tega was the best. However, when he lost form and all the issues with Tottenham plus having knee surgery, l kept quite there was nothing to report. But now he is back doing what l have always known him to be capable of doing. Finally, he doesn't eat fish and chips it's Ukodo. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:38am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: I do not doubt you at all. Ritchie left Bournemouth and went to Newcastle when they were in the Championship. Vokes left Burnley to Stoke, the list is endless. But you are saying what l am saying in a different way. There are many players that will rather play in the Championship than go to the bottom half of La Liga and or Seria A. In these leagues the larger % of the money rests with the top clubs and mid table clubs. There is a huge gulf between the bottom section and thier second tiers are very poor. Imagine Leganes thier most expensive player is Omeruo for €5 million and they are in La Liga. That's the type of money used to compete in English League one. I know players in English league 2 on £6k a week, go and look at what Cadiz plays some of thier players, even Huesca. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:40am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn: Hmmmm |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by babatundey5: 10:43am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn:Looking at onomah yesterday I would say he was quite impressive, he boossed the midfield, he was almost everywhere even though Fulham attack was not sharp without mitrovic. Looking at him yesterday I agree with you that stat are indicative not conclusive 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:45am On Aug 05, 2020 |
When Segunda dey play their own playoffs sef? Any idea, Nerd? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:47am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn: @ bolded...abeg give me a list of at least 5 players that fall into this category.... In return,I will give you a list of 10 young talented players whose career were ruined or almost ruined by Rodgers... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:47am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn: The players that will play in the championship ahead of those bottom leganes teams are only going for the money, if you even see 10k weekly collect from laliga bottom teams then you try, championship that you will easily get 25k to 30k weekly , one of the reason wey i no 2 blame etebo for joining stoke, i can bet that etebo was not earning more than 2,500 euros weekly at Feirense or e no go reach self Lol see as you dey yab leganes, anyway thats the fact, leganes na very poor club 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:49am On Aug 05, 2020 |
ChrisKels: First leg on the 13th Second leg on the 16th |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:49am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Please give me the list of players rodgers almost ruined their career I want to check something bro |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:55am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: You could answer the initial question first... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nostradamus1: 10:55am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn:Can you say the same for iheanacho when you are screaming 10 goals in 100 matches Smh 13 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 10:57am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Whats the question ? The players rodgers almost ruined |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:57am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: You didn't read the post you quoted well? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 10:58am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: Well u never know with that lucky clown in charge of France. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 11:01am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Point of correction bros, there is nothing like hate mastery, majority of reasons why people hate themsekves, is cos of envy, strife and Jealousy, so you saying the white are jealous of we Blacks? IDENNAA: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:05am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Na question i dey ask oo make i confirm something I was not arguing against you |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:16am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: Who is talking about argument now? Oya, here you go... Take note, I said "ruined or almost ruined" their careers.. 1) Iago Aspas 2) Lazar Markovic 3) Adam Lallana 4) Luis Alberto 5) Suso 6) Aly Cissokho(on loan .. mismanaged) 7) Nuri Sahin (on loan... mismanaged) Firmino (he was totally anonymous until Klopp came in) 9) Origi (Same situation as Firmino) 10) Fabio Borini IMO, the only players Rodgers did a good job at developing are Coutinho and Sterling... The likes of Sturridge and Suarez were already proven goalscorers who were able to thrive under Rodgers because of his offensive style of play... |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:20am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Okay thank you Was lallana almost ruined ? Anyway Na Suso Luis alberto aspas and sahin i wan check , i just remembered this aly sissoko, very good player 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:22am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Nostradamus1: His statistics combined with his game play over the past three seasons show a player that is very poor in comparison to the expectations of his transfer fee. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:32am On Aug 05, 2020 |
Danielnino00: Raheem Sterling Jordan Ibe Joe Gomez Dembele Ndidi Iheanacho 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:35am On Aug 05, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: You can look at it another way which Championship team will buy a defender from Turkish league. Admittedly Brentford have found a way to compete, they look for the most outstanding players in any league that they can buy for less money. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 11:37am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn: You should have asked Which Turkish league player will want to come to the championship ? Please don disrespect the Turkish league They pay players well there Any young players doing well in the turkey league have always move to a better league and not the championship |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 11:39am On Aug 05, 2020 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:39am On Aug 05, 2020 |
komekn: Gomez? Nope! He played very few games under Rodgers before Klopp came in.. Ibe?? Nope! He was largely a youth prospect throughout his time under Rodgers and didn't play much... I pretty much agree with the rest... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:39am On Aug 05, 2020 |
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