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Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Amotolongbo(f): 8:27am On Aug 06, 2020

TWO senior lawyers have expressed divergent views on the ‘sovereignty clause’ in the $400m commercial loan agreement between Nigeria and China.

The clause has pitted critics and the National Assembly against the Federal Executive Council (FEC).

The opponents argue that the clause ousted the nation’s sovereignty, should Nigeria fail to repay the loan.


They explain that such a clause should not have been included in a commercial agreement.

But, a former President of the Nigerian Bar Association (NBA), Dr. Olisa Agbakoba (SAN), said there is nothing to worry about.

He dismissed the claim that such a clause ousted the country’s immunity.

Another lawyer Mr. Norrison Quakers (SAN) disagreed with Agbakoba.

According to him, the clause “is an error” which should not have been inserted.

The loan pact was signed by the Federal Ministry of Finance on behalf of Nigeria and the Export-Import Bank of China on September 5, 2018.

It will fund the Nigeria National Information and Communication Technology Infrastructure Backbone Phase II Projects.

The contentious clause states: “The borrower hereby irrevocably waives any immunity on the grounds of sovereign or otherwise for itself or its property in connection with any arbitration proceeding pursuant to Article 8(5), thereof with the enforcement of any arbitral award pursuant thereto, except for the military assets and diplomatic assets.”

The ministers clarified that the lawmakers must have misconstrued the concepts of international diplomatic immunity and commercial immunity.

Agbakoba agreed, adding that the appropriate term for the clause is “a waiver of immunity clause” and that it is a standard contractual provision.

He said: “There is a lot of confusion, hot air about the sovereign immunity clause. There is nothing about a sovereign immunity clause.

“The standard clause that is introduced when two sovereigns are doing business – like China and Nigeria – or a non-sovereign and a sovereign are doing business is for the sovereign debtor, such as Nigeria, to have her credit assessed.

“Now, look at Nigeria or Africa’s credit rating generally. Africa’s credit rating is sub-optimal. No bank in Nigeria will give a loan unless there are assurances of it being repaid.

“If you’re the governor of a state, the bank manager will ask: ‘If I give you a loan, will you not invoke your immunity?’ and you say no. Then the manager will say, ‘Let us have it in the contract that in the event you default, you will not invoke your immunity.’

“So, it’s actually a waiver of immunity clause, not a sovereign immunity clause.”

The senior advocate observed that the waiver of immunity clause was at work recently when Zambia lost assets to China after it defaulted on repaying a loan.

Agbakoba said: “Zambia was not able to use sovereign immunity to avoid debt repayment.

“If you have good standing internationally, for instance, America will not waive its sovereign immunity because America is good for credit. Unfortunately, few African countries are not good for credit. So, it is the credit worthiness issue that is the problem.”

On the controversy triggered by the clause, Agbakoba said: “When the National Assembly began to make all the noise, it beat me hollow; they absolutely got it wrong. There’s nothing like sovereign immunity clause.

“It’s a contractual clause that simply says ‘if you don’t pay, we’ll go after your assets.”

Quakers said: “No country will willingly cede its sovereignty to another country on the basis of a contractual arrangement.”

He, however, observed that the agreement seemed to put China in a position of power over Nigeria, Quakers said: “As far as I am concerned, I haven’t seen the agreement itself, but I’ve read some extracts here and there concerning the clause.

“The only thing I see there is like an unfair contract, a situation where someone has an upper hand, an edge over you. By saying ‘Ok, you want this facility, I’ll give it to you, but in the unlikely event of a default, you will not define assets that I will hold on to, to liquidate the debts.”

Agbakoba said the government should have taken time to think through the deal carefully.

“That agreement should also have been subjected to some scrutiny, not necessarily by government lawyers, but even by those in the private sector, particularly in commercial practice ‘Please look at this, what do you think and then advise the government accordingly.’”

He said the contract appeared to give China discretion to pick which Nigerian asset to “hold on to for the purpose of liquidating the debt…

“That, for me, is the error in terms of the agreement. It’s actually an error,” Quakers added.

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Nobody: 8:49am On Aug 06, 2020
He said the contract appeared to give China discretion to pick which Nigerian asset to “hold on to for the purpose of liquidating the debt…

“That, for me, is the error in terms of the agreement. It’s actually an error,” Quakers added.

This is the major problem here... they could pick your NNPC, oil wells, mining sites,
Nigerian port etc.. it's at their discretion with no holds barred.

Interest and loan recovery could run for years as along as they keep declaring loss and your Naira keeps loosing value.

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Amspecial: 9:15am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Logankavoh: 9:15am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by lawalyusuf: 9:16am On Aug 06, 2020
Hmmmm just passing by
Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by ForeThinker: 9:16am On Aug 06, 2020
I hope one day we can forgive each other for not being what we wanted each other to be
Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Queenlovely(f): 9:16am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by MANNABBQGRILLS: 9:16am On Aug 06, 2020
He said I should resign. Resign from what? Are you saying those projects weren’t executed? Is there no Kaduna-Abuja railway?

“By the way, he said he is PDP; that loan was taken under President Goodluck Jonathan’s government.

“The loan he’s talking about — the Kaduna-Abuja railway — was signed by the President Goodluck Jonathan government.


“The loan was taken by President Goodluck Jonathan’s government, and for that reason we had to name the train station and infrastructure in Agbor after President Goodluck Jonathan’s government for that laudable achievement.”

Meanwhile, a fact-check by TheCable confirms that while the Kaduna-Abuja railway project was conceived during the Olusegun Obasanjo administration, it was stalled during the tenure of Umaru Yar’Adua due to “paucity of fund”, but construction began in 2011 when Jonathan was acting president.
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Stephenlord(m): 9:17am On Aug 06, 2020
Incase we wake tomorrow that Nigeria has been officially sold to China
just call me chin_min_hu

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by puyol005(m): 9:17am On Aug 06, 2020
Finally, naija is about to be sold. Who we offend!

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Originakalokalo(m): 9:17am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by salbis(m): 9:17am On Aug 06, 2020
Na dis kind people dey add their confusion on top of our already confused minds. What a country!

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Marveeeenn: 9:17am On Aug 06, 2020
Interesting
Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by FederalOtp: 9:18am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by ecolime(m): 9:18am On Aug 06, 2020

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by YosemiteDan: 9:18am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Golan007: 9:18am On Aug 06, 2020
Esseite:


This is the major problem here... they could pick your NNPC, oil wells, mining sites etc.. it's at their discretion with no holds barred.

You cannot pick oil wells because they are a joint venture.

Stop the scaremongering.

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by tot(f): 9:19am On Aug 06, 2020
Smh. Nigeria as a nation has no respect for its sovereignty.

They will carry pen and be signing all sorts of documents without any due diligence.

That is what happens when you have the WRONG (incompetent and unqualified) people in sensitive key positions - the whole place will be upside down.

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by EyezofGod120: 9:20am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by money121(m): 9:21am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by OmoDavido01(m): 9:21am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by AbuAeesha: 9:22am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Nobody: 9:23am On Aug 06, 2020
Golan007:


You cannot pick oil wells because they are a joint venture.

Stop the scaremongering.

As long as they are Nigerian assets, they would take the Nigerian stake...

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by SmartyPants(m): 9:24am On Aug 06, 2020
The opinion I posted yesterday encapsulated both these gentlemen's opinions.

SmartyPants:


He has already elucidated perfectly.

Ordinarily, China could have no claim to Nigerian property, as all of such would be covered under the principle of sovereignty and territorial integrity.

However the exception to this rule is when a nation incurrs debts in the course of a commercial transaction, the effect is that the sovereignty of that nation is waived with respect to its liability. That does not mean China can take ownership of Nigeria, but it means that Chins can lay claim to some assets belonging to Nigeria.

The only issue I have with this is that the particular property to be claimed is not stated.

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by Fheelzz(m): 9:25am On Aug 06, 2020
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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by PapaBaby: 9:26am On Aug 06, 2020
Golan007:


You cannot pick oil wells because they are a joint venture.

Stop the scaremongering.

What's this one saying? There's a reason China picked Hong-Kong as the country where arbitration will take place if there is a default.
Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by dustydee: 9:27am On Aug 06, 2020
In Nigeria, you can cause any controversy because majority of the people do not read and only go by the headline. Nigeria is a sovereign state and the waiver in the contract was only to guarantee that the debtor will get paid, which is normal. For those talking about oil wells and mining sites being taken over, that will be foolish on the Chinese part because the Nigerian government can render those assets useless if they are taken over by simply passing laws (Tax, operational etc.) that will inhibit them from getting full value from those assets. The Chinese are more likely to go after assets outside the country if we default.
Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by God1stson(m): 9:28am On Aug 06, 2020
Esseite:


This is the major problem here... they could pick your NNPC, oil wells, mining sites etc.. it's at their discretion with no holds barred.
APC CHANGE. I'M HAPPY I AM AMONG THE 5% that did not vote this party. The harm they did and still doing to this country will be so visible when to they leave office. As for me and my family we are depending on God and plugging into international economies

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Re: Agbakoba, Quakers Differ On China Loan ‘Sovereignty Clause’ by chloride6: 9:28am On Aug 06, 2020
Anybody don take eye see the agreement?

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