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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:35pm On Aug 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Tammy said No. I moved on. Don't know the shots you talking about unless you being generalistic to several Nigerians' reaction. I understand even whites got involved when he began playing poorly for Chelsea and using that to racially abuse him. Now that's very wrong and immoral.

Back to Nigerians, Nigerians would always react. If Saka perhaps eventually says no today, expect another round of reaction from Nigerians. Nigerians generally don't handle rejection very well I'm afraid. Made my very good friend, TheGoodJoe fly to FINLAND to begin the process of becoming a "FINNISH CITIZEN" one time coz he was "FINNISHED" BY Billing's rejection and his toying with us. grin grin Lol

But as for me... I don't take these things to heart at all. I just see it as their choice and move on. Afterall, it is their lives and careers. Also, our national team isn't dead b'cos of their No.




And yes, eventually Osimhen proved himself the better player. He bagged 18 goals + 6 assists in all comps despite having 10 league games to play.
Tammy had a whole season and fell short by 1. He bagged 17 goals + 6assists. Also an impressive return overall but compared to a player who bagged more goals with 10 league matches to spare and couldn't play in them as the league got ended prematurely and refused to return like the others, then surely it shows one is definitely of a higher class. Finito. wink



When we talk about top goal scorers in general we talk about league games. Why because it is level playing field to assess ability.

In general cup games are not used because the quality of the opposition is not constant, with huge variations in quality.

That's why a lot of cup games with low quality opposition will be given to bench warmers or players returning from injury. Indeed Manchester United just played LASK and fielded 8 teenage debutants.

So when we make a comparison we use a balanced measurement.

The EPL is on a different level to the French league and scoring 15 goals in the EPL is a lot harder than scoring 13 in the French league. This is a simple fact.

No French Striker has left the French league and has been able to immediately replicate thier goal tally in the EPL.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 6:35pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:


Do they know more than the entire coaching staff at Leicester all KC past managers and present manager.

As well as all of his current team mates.

Finally, what else do you expect Ndidi to say, no matter what the truth is.

Why are we only concerned about Ndidi

Is Fuchs a Nigerian too

This guys train everyday

Mata at Man United is a better penalty taker than Rash or Pogba but we know who will step up if we have the three on the pitch

Things like this are not simple 1+1
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by JayromWrites: 6:38pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:


It depends on how the clips are made.

For instance, if l want to find out about a player I'll go to the club video analyst. And say give 10 minutes 10 minute clips of Nnamdi Brown. I can then have a good idea about the player, what he die with the ball and what he does when he doesn't have the ball.

Finally, knowing how things work in Nigeria and Oliseh penchant for players deals through his preferred agent. That's not a good example to justify clips in professional football management.

But clips that people talk about predominantly here it seems are the clips based on a collection of games compressed into a clip or clips.

We know Oliseh

But then this proves that People watch clips too

Be it a 10 minutes clip of a single match or a compilation of clips, Scouts and recruitment coaches watch clips as well

I remember when a scout came over to watch a teammate of mine back then..., he had to make video clip for the whole tournament he featured in
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kingphilip(m): 6:38pm On Aug 06, 2020
JayromWrites:


They have their reasons

You know better than Fuchs and Ndidi?
you don't know he attends more training than both of them combined?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:42pm On Aug 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Agreed about musa bro

People should not be suprised for musa to easily get a team in europe top 5 leagues

I very much doubt him getting picked up in EPL.

But French league a very big YES, La Liga the very poor bottom segment another big YES, and a few teams in the Bundesliga.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Arabiandude: 6:43pm On Aug 06, 2020
Sevilla teaching Roma how to play the Europa league

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 6:45pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:


I very much doubt him getting picked up in EPL.

But French league a very big YES, La Liga the very poor bottom segment another big YES, and a few teams in the Bundesliga.
lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:47pm On Aug 06, 2020
Subzero047:


Aribo is actually hindered creatively in sitting behind for defensive duties alongside Ndidi, Man city can afford to do it because De Bruyne is a top class creator and Iwobi is not De Bruyne, it would actually make sense for Ejaria to partner Aribo in midfield to create and defend equally

As for you saying Ejaria is not a creator that is a lie
Why would Aribo be limited to doing defensive duties when that's primarily Ndidi's job??
Did you watch Aribo against Ukraine and Brasil??
He isn't even much of a chance creator himself but has good passing abilities and can run into space..

I used De Bryune as an example because u said I can hardly find a top team that uses no.10s which isn't true! U can check Lazio,Ajax,Bayer Leverkusen and even Man Utd with Bruno..
That tweet on Ejaria proves nothing.. . check his assists and chance created stats from the 36 games he played in tye championship.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 6:53pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:


When we talk about top goal scorers in general we talk about league games. Why because it is level playing field to assess ability.

In general cup games are not used because the quality of the opposition is not constant, with huge variations in quality.

That's why a lot of cup games with low quality opposition will be given to bench warmers or players returning from injury. Indeed Manchester United just played LASK and fielded 8 teenage debutants.

So when we make a comparison we use a balanced measurement.

The EPL is on a different level to the French league and scoring 15 goals in the EPL is a lot harder than scoring 13 in the French league. This is a simple fact.

No French Striker has left the French league and has been able to immediately replicate thier goal tally in the EPL.


Oga, all these long talks don't coat a simple fact. As far as the top 5 leagues are concerned, Osimhen outscored Tammy in all comps despite Tammy completing a whole season and Osimhen still having 10 league games to play. Finito!!!



Lol.... Na wa. I just knew you would comment eventually. Predictable as always. cheesy



This is Komekn "diving in" with so much zeal to make a stop everytime a goal (a point) is scored against Tammy on here grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 6:56pm On Aug 06, 2020
Danielnino00:

Why would Aribo be limited to doing defensive duties when that's primarily Ndidi's job??
Did you watch Aribo against Ukraine and Brasil??
He isn't even much of a chance creator himself but has good passing abilities and can run into space..

I used De Bryune as an example because u said I can hardly find a top team that uses no.10s which isn't true! U can check Lazio,Ajax,Bayer Leverkusen and even Man Utd with Bruno..
That tweet on Ejaria proves nothing.. . check his assists and chance created stats from the 36 games he played in tye championship.

Don’t you think Aribo would be more able to create and score if there was another central midfielder alongside him? Aribo with Ejaria in midfield is a no brainer since they can produce a high amount of creative and defensive work

Iwobi without the ball is a liability for the SE and he is not even the creative wizard so why would the team have to carry him when there is an as-good creator and better worker on the bench, this is why many teams dumped the no 10 role, Man city uses it because De Bruyne is De Bruyne and he can produce numbers to justify his role Barca? Madrid? Liverpool? Psg? Juventus? Bayern? These are the top teams and they don't use a 10 and Bruno actually plays as an 8 for Man U not 10
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tglobal(m): 6:58pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:


Do they know more than the entire coaching staff at Leicester all KC past managers and present manager.

As well as all of his current team mates.

Finally, what else do you expect Ndidi to say, no matter what the truth is.

Do you have a different opinion on this? If so, why?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:02pm On Aug 06, 2020
They are professional players who train week in week out with the lad so they should know. They only testify to what they have seen. It is indeed a fact Nacho has never missed a penalty right from even the U-17s.
A player taking a penalty for a clubside is a matter of a coach's preference. Osimhen joined Lille and met Ikone & Bamba who started the season taking their pens. As time went on, Galtier instructed that Penalties be left for Osimhen and it was so.

So KOMEKNISH, I ask you. Have you ever seen Nacho take a penalty before?

komekn:


So it seems that Christian Fuchs know a lot better than Pep, Shakespeare, Puel and Brendan.



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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:03pm On Aug 06, 2020
Subzero047:


Don’t you think Aribo would be more able to create and score if there was another central midfielder alongside him? Aribo with Ejaria in midfield is a no brainer since they can produce a high amount of creative and defensive work

Iwobi without the ball is a liability for the SE and he is not even the creative wizard so why would the team have to carry him when there is an as-good creator and better worker on the bench, this is why many teams dumped the no 10 role, Man city uses it because De Bruyne is De Bruyne and he can produce numbers to justify his task, Barca? Madrid? Liverpool? Psg? Juventus? Bayern? These are the top teams and they don't use a 10 and Bruno actually plays as an 8 for Man U not 10

Bayern use the no.10 role....they have Muller... Madrid? What role does Modric play?

As for Liverpool,they dumped the role after Coutinho left and the creativity duty was passed on the full backs..

The Aribo I watched against Ukraine and Brasil can hold his own in midfield without another CM partner...

Let's say we decide to dump the AM role, you think Ejaria and Aribo can actually shoulder the responsibility of creating chances for the team? Their stats and style of play notwithstanding??
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:12pm On Aug 06, 2020
Watching Bayer Leverkusen giving Glasgow Rangers a football lesson.

They are out of their depth and amount of huffing and puffing will blow the Leverkusen house down.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:14pm On Aug 06, 2020
Danielnino00:


Bayern use the no.10 role....they have Muller... Madrid? What role does Modric play?

As for Liverpool,they dumped the role after Coutinho left and the creativity duty was passed on the full backs..

The Aribo I watched against Ukraine and Brasil can hold his own in midfield without another CM partner...

Let's say we decide to dump the AM role, you think Ejaria and Aribo can actually shoulder the responsibility of creating chances for the team? Their stats and style of play notwithstanding??

Muller is a supporting striker, Modric is a central midfielder

Why do you think no 10s like James, Coutinho, Isco and Ozil are finding it hard to play? it's because their position has been phased out, teams now demand on their midfielders to be all rounders

This thing you are hammering on creativity Iwobi has 3 assists for the SE (Yes 3!) Ejaria and Aribo will double that tally in no time while contributing more to the overall play

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:23pm On Aug 06, 2020
Subzero047:


Muller is a supporting striker, Modric is a central midfielder

Why do you think no 10s like James, Coutinho, Isco and Ozil are finding it hard to play? it's because their position has been phased out, teams now depend on their midfielders to be all rounders

This thing you are hammering on creativity Iwobi has 3 assists for the SE (Yes 3!) Ejaria and Aribo will double that tally in no time while contributing more to the overall play

Muller and Modric also play as attacking modifieders...

Coutinho,Ozil and James also play from the wing... Being no.10s isn't the primary reason for them finding game time hard,they are simply out of favour at their clubs!
And I repeat, the no.10 role isn't being phased out! Some teams are just exploiting other alternative means of creating chances.. Even Man City with De Bryune still enjoy a significant portion of their offensive play from the wing..

Chance creation goes beyond assists... Aribo and Ejaria can't deliver better through balls than Iwobi...they can't give better crosses than Iwobi..

Iwobi may be inconsistent,but that isn't enough reason to phase out the no.10 role from the team..
You aren't even considering the fact that our fullbacks are mostly ineffective when it comes to providing support for the attackers...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 7:27pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:
Watching Bayer Leverkusen giving Glasgow Rangers a football lesson.

They are out of their depth and amount of huffing and puffing will blow the Leverkusen house down.

Always liked Bosz. Sad it did not work out with Dortmund. Glad he is finding his feet with Leverkusen. He was fantastic with Ajax.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 7:33pm On Aug 06, 2020
Danielnino00:


Muller and Modric also play as attacking modifieders...

Coutinho,Ozil and James also play from the wing... Being no.10s isn't the primary reason for them finding game time hard,they are simply out of favour at their clubs!
And I repeat, the no.10 role isn't being phased out! Some teams are just exploiting other alternative means of creating chances.. Even Man City with De Bryune still enjoy a significant portion of their offensive play from the wing..

Chance creation goes beyond assists... Aribo and Ejaria can't deliver better through balls than Iwobi...they can't give better crosses than Iwobi..

Iwobi may be inconsistent,but that isn't enough reason to phase out the no.10 role from the team..
You aren't even considering the fact that our fullbacks are mostly ineffective when it comes to providing support for the attackers...


Aribo and Ejaria are as good as Iwobi offensively and better defensively, Iwobi being good at delivering crosses is a myth if not he would have had more than 0 assists in the EPL and 3 assists for the SE

Having all rounders in midfield would benefit and provide cover for fullbacks if they want to overlap, maybe that's why they have been ineffective in attack
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by isan(m): 7:34pm On Aug 06, 2020
Guadiola keep spending millions on defenders he never gave the young guys any chance

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:35pm On Aug 06, 2020
komekn:


I very much doubt him getting picked up in EPL.

But French league a very big YES, La Liga the very poor bottom segment another big YES, and a few teams in the Bundesliga.

That’s why I said Europe too 5 league

Brighton wanna collect musa on loan before he rejoined Cska on loan

He might get a poor team in the epl and so do laliga
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 7:42pm On Aug 06, 2020
Elohor Ekpolo with an assist today for Hacken against Ishaq's Norrkoping. Following up on the assist he bagged in their last game too.

He now has 3 league assists from RB.

Hacken leads 2-0 against 10-man Norrkoping after 84mins.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 7:47pm On Aug 06, 2020
isan:
Guadiola keep spending millions on defenders he never gave the young guys any chance

Keep kwayet

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 7:53pm On Aug 06, 2020
isan:
Guadiola keep spending millions on defenders he never gave the young guys any chance

Nathan ake is not expensive as far as defenders are concerned

Who are the young guys pep should give chance at city ?

I am sure you watched a 19 year old Eric Garcia doing well with his little time under pep

So I don’t know the young guys you are talking about

Did you watch young zichenko also play as LB ?

It’s either you no Dey watch ball or you just want talk

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 7:53pm On Aug 06, 2020
hi all just read a good analytic opinion piece about how Osimhen will fit in at Napoli. here's the link.

https://thesupersub.com/osimhen-to-napoli/

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 7:55pm On Aug 06, 2020
Subzero047:



Aribo and Ejaria are as good as Iwobi offensively and better defensively, Iwobi being good at delivering crosses is a myth if not he would have had more than 0 assists in the EPL and 3 assists for the SE

Having all rounders in midfield would benefit and provide cover for fullbacks if they want to overlap, maybe that's why they have been ineffective in attack

Why are u judging Iwobi with his stat at Everton?
What happened to the many chances and crosses he delivered at arsenal? He was their best chance creator after Ozil while he was there..
Even this season,he managed to create 2 big chances in the EPL..

@ your last paragraph, you clearly don't watch our fullbacks at club level.. Maybe you can indetify one or two of them that are very effective in attack at club level..
You want us to dump the AM role and try and play like Liverpool with two CM when we don't have fullbacks that can do the job...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:03pm On Aug 06, 2020
Game eventually ends 2-1 in favour of Hacken. Ekpolo now on 3 assists from as many games so far this season.


TheSuperNerd:
Elohor Ekpolo with an assist today for Hacken against Ishaq's Norrkoping. Following up on the assist he bagged in their last game too.

He now has 3 league assists from RB.

Hacken leads 2-0 against 10-man Norrkoping after 84mins.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:05pm On Aug 06, 2020
Danielnino00:


Why are u judging Iwobi with his stat at Everton?
What happened to the many chances and crosses he delivered at arsenal? He was their best chance creator after Ozil while he was there..
Even this season,he managed to create 2 big chances in the EPL..

@ your last paragraph, you clearly don't watch our fullbacks at club level.. Maybe you can indetify one or two of them that are very effective in attack at club level..
You want us to dump the AM role and try and play like Liverpool with two CM when we don't have fullbacks that can do the job...

Iwobi is no longer at Arsenal, I'm judging him with recent stats, Aribo and Ejaria had more assists playing as CMs than him at AM so going by creativity and output he should not be starting for the national team

I don't hate him, I just feel like it's time to tweak our midfield and replacing him with Ejaria gives our midfield balance, gives our fullbacks protection and license to go forward, adds more guile and ball possession to our style of play

Liverpool's midfield is not the yardstick for a 3 man midfield, you can check Madrid's, Leicester's, Man U's, Tottenham's maybe your affinity to Liverpool makes you believe that a 2 man CM cannot create
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:05pm On Aug 06, 2020
Also in Sweden, Alhassan Yusuf played all 90mins as his side, IFK Goteborg drew 2-2 against Ostersunds FK.

Moses Ogbu (29yrs) scored for Mjallby as they drew 1-1 against Sirius also in the Swedish Allsvenskan.
He is now on 4 goals and 1 assist in 11 league games played for his side.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:13pm On Aug 06, 2020
Subzero047:



Aribo and Ejaria are as good as Iwobi offensively and better defensively, [/b]Iwobi being good at delivering crosses is a myth[b] if not he would have had more than 0 assists in the EPL and 3 assists for the SE

Having all rounders in midfield would benefit and provide cover for fullbacks if they want to overlap, maybe that's why they have been ineffective in attack

Baba no talk shit ohhhhh
Iwobi is a good crosser

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 8:14pm On Aug 06, 2020
charlesemeka85:


City is sigining a cb dis summer

Ake already in the bag
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Subzero047: 8:19pm On Aug 06, 2020
sheyishemba:


Baba no talk shit ohhhhh
Iwobi is a good crosser

No he is not, can you remember a cross of his leading to a goal this season or last?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 8:21pm On Aug 06, 2020
TheSuperNerd:
Also in Sweden, Alhassan Yusuf played all 90mins as his side, IFK Goteborg drew 2-2 against Ostersunds FK.

Moses Ogbu (29yrs) scored for Mjallby as they drew 1-1 against Sirius also in the Swedish Allsvenskan.
He is now on 4 goals and 1 assist in 11 league games played for his side.

Where is Amoo of Hammarby?

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