Vyzz:
For the igbo people....

Everybody has his or her own CHI

WinningEleven:
I think what you mean by God is guardian angel. And no, the spiritual seat at which you have placed them is not right.
Angels are not meant to be worshipped since we are equals but still in the impure form.
We are equals, just tempore inferior

delkuf:
It is possible to have your own god, but there is only one God who have all the powers of heaven and Earth. He is Almighty God. He is the Creator of heaven and Earth and everything in it including you. And He is my Father. I believe in sent his son Jesus Christ to come and die for my sins and your sins and the sins of the whole world in the flesh and ressurected from the dead in the flesh.

MizMyColi:


Yes, I've been thinking about this bit a lot.
Like from when I was younger, I would hear my mom singing and saying chi nke Alex, chi Umu Isreal. It makes me wonder now.

Could it be that our fore father's deciphered this early on. Wouldnt it make sense then to pray to your God or relate with your God instead of forcing yourself to be adopted by other people's God?

Also, for people who pray and say Oh God of Oyedepo and Adeboye, answer me today...

Are they not undermining their own (chi)?

I think it would help for us to go within and connect to our own chi, source, or God.
Leave the God of the Israelites alone for now and watch your life transform for better.

MizMyColi:
Hello Religion Section!
I've missed you, my friends

MuttleyLaff, how do you do!?
LoJ my dearest
Sarassin
Analice, long time o

Pardon my unremberance of monikers

So I have this question.

Is it possible that we all have our own God that we should be conversing with, and maybe not focus on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as our God might be incompatible with theirs?

Just thinking out loud.

What do you think?

Vyzz:
For the igbo people....
Everybody has his or her own CHI

MizMyColi:


I get your angle.
But my question to you is this:

Is the Almighty God the same one as the real God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

MizMyColi:
Hello Religion Section!
I've missed you, my friends
MuttleyLaff, how do you do!?
LoJ my dearest
Sarassin
Analice, long time o
Pardon my unremberance of monikers
So I have this question.
Is it possible that we all have our own God that we should be conversing with, and maybe not focus on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as our God might be incompatible with theirs?
Just thinking out loud.
What do you think?

Maximus69:


The title "ALMIGHTY GOD" simply means a Supreme Being!
There is no way each individual can have his/her own PERSONAL God, that's exactly what Satan suggested for Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden, indirectly each person will now have a personal secret altar in his heart where he/she bows to himself alone so that whatever rules or laws binding on others is of no concern to them since each is only submissive to his own God! Genesis 3:5
Of course each nation in the world have a name for this PERSONAL God that's worshiped by each individual, in Yorùbá land it's called ORÍ!
When talking about ORÍ there's nothing that's of concern to it's worshipers about others, in fact ORÍ is the God promoting selfish ambitions!

MizMyColi:


I get your angle.
But my question to you is this:

Is the Almighty God the same one as the real God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob?

FOLYKAZE:


This is entirely an indication that you understand the Bible or Yoruba spirituality.

As a matter of fact, humans were referred to as Gods/Elohim in the bible, a title which is used to refer to the MOST HIGH, which is the Supreme Being of the entire universe. The Most High in this case is known as Eledumare among the Yoruba people. Jehovah/Yahweh, Baal and the 70 children of El are all his subjects. You need to read Deuteronomy 32:8-9 to understand that Jehovah only inherited because he is a subject of the Most High (compare Psalm 78:71).

While MOST HIGH or call it Eledumare is the supreme being, with subordinates like Jehovah, Chemosh, Milcolm, Asherath, Baal, Yam, Ashta, Anat, and others, these subordinates are Elohim (children of El), designated for different nations and race (Micah 4:5). Jehovah acknowledge the existence of other divinities in 1 Kings 11:5, 33.

Now read Psalm 82:6 compare John 10:34, humans were refferred to as Elohim, same branch as Jehovah.
John 10:34 CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Isn’t it written in your Torah, ‘I have said, “You people are Elohim’ ”?

In defining Elohim, Exo 22:28 gave the shot between God/gods/judge. It boils down to what you call God.

So biblically, Humans are Gods...

You should have dive into another Spiritual system which exposes your multi-faceted ignorance about Yoruba philosophy and spirituality.

Firstly, Yoruba people acknowledge a Supreme Being (Elyon) called Eledumare. And he is known simply as Ultimate Cause of Existence. Eledumare could be called by given many titles but not Ori as you ascribed up there.

Secondly, Orisas are simply manifestation, a microcosm aspect of Eledumare. While Eledumare is infinity, Orisa are the finite nature of Him.

Thirdly, Yoruba never for once conflate Eledumare with Ori. Ori is the guardian angel that control and direct the reality of humans. Ori is the consciousness, qualia, subjectivity and distinguishable individuality, a part of the totality of Eledumare.

Lastly, much as the Bible acknowledged, Ori is an orisa (divinity) and Personal Deity of every individuals.

Yoruba spirituality sees God more as authority or values. Everything that add values or dominion over our existence is our God. Our survival is dependent on food which passes into our body system through our mouth; Ifa calls mouth 'Olubobotiribo' which is the deity that receive most sacrifice. Bible acknowledge belly as God.

However, personal God of the Yoruba is Ori, a distinctive part of Olodumare.

Ori is orisa, orisa bi Olorun kosi.

FOLYKAZE:


This is entirely an indication that you understand the Bible or Yoruba spirituality.

As a matter of fact, humans were referred to as Gods/Elohim in the bible, a title which is used to refer to the MOST HIGH, which is the Supreme Being of the entire universe. The Most High in this case is known as Eledumare among the Yoruba people. Jehovah/Yahweh, Baal and the 70 children of El are all his subjects. You need to read Deuteronomy 32:8-9 to understand that Jehovah only inherited because he is a subject of the Most High (compare Psalm 78:71).

While MOST HIGH or call it Eledumare is the supreme being, with subordinates like Jehovah, Chemosh, Milcolm, Asherath, Baal, Yam, Ashta, Anat, and others, these subordinates are Elohim (children of El), designated for different nations and race (Micah 4:5). Jehovah acknowledge the existence of other divinities in 1 Kings 11:5, 33.

Now read Psalm 82:6 compare John 10:34, humans were refferred to as Elohim, same branch as Jehovah.
John 10:34 CJB
Yeshua answered them, “Isn’t it written in your Torah, ‘I have said, “You people are Elohim’ ”?

In defining Elohim, Exo 22:28 gave the shot between God/gods/judge. It boils down to what you call God.

So biblically, Humans are Gods...

You should have dive into another Spiritual system which exposes your multi-faceted ignorance about Yoruba philosophy and spirituality.

Firstly, Yoruba people acknowledge a Supreme Being (Elyon) called Eledumare. And he is known simply as Ultimate Cause of Existence. Eledumare could be called by given many titles but not Ori as you ascribed up there.

Secondly, Orisas are simply manifestation, a microcosm aspect of Eledumare. While Eledumare is infinity, Orisa are the finite nature of Him.

Thirdly, Yoruba never for once conflate Eledumare with Ori. Ori is the guardian angel that control and direct the reality of humans. Ori is the consciousness, qualia, subjectivity and distinguishable individuality, a part of the totality of Eledumare.

Lastly, much as the Bible acknowledged, Ori is an orisa (divinity) and Personal Deity of every individuals.

Yoruba spirituality sees God more as authority or values. Everything that add values or dominion over our existence is our God. Our survival is dependent on food which passes into our body system through our mouth; Ifa calls mouth 'Olubobotiribo' which is the deity that receive most sacrifice. Bible acknowledge belly as God.

However, personal God of the Yoruba is Ori, a distinctive part of Olodumare.

Ori is orisa, orisa bi Olorun kosi.

Maximus69:


This is why i told you that discussing with you is a waste of time!

You never read my comment, you just jumped in to start arguing without asking simple questions to grasp exactly what i meant!

ORÍ is the personal God each selfish person throughout the world worships, it simply means they have a secret altar in their hearts that each person bows down to everyday like worshiping themselves and giving priority to their selfish ambitions.

Jehovah is the Almighty God according to Exodus 6:2-3; Psalms 83:18

As for the selfish worshipers of ORÍ, Jehovah acknowledged them as gods of their own self {Psalms 82:1} and said they will perish because they can't save themselves from the hand of death {Psalms 82:6} unlike the one and only TRUE God (Jehovah) who promised to swallow death forever! Isaiah 25:8

FOLYKAZE:


What you wrote is total misconception of both the concept of Ori, and the subject of Godhood in the Yoruba spiritual system.

Worship among the Yoruba people is way beyond bowing down or praying to a sacred object. Worship is more of acknowledging the worth of something or someone. So when the Yoruba people say 'bo ori' which mean worship Ori, it simply mean acknowledgement Ori, as against your position that they have a dedicated altar and/or bow to worship religiously Ori. There is no dedicated shrine for one Ori, just as no one bow to Ori. Understanding worship in this sense can be related to money worshipping according to Matthew 6:24

God Almighty according to Exodus 6:2-3 is translated from the word El-shaddai. El-shaddai is the tittle that belongs to El, the canaanite Supreme God which Jehovah is his subject. El-shaddai in Yoruba is Oyigiyigi, a title that symbolise strength, and is ascribed to Esu Odara. There is nothing spectacular with identifying Jehovah as El-shaddai.

1. El-shaddai God of the mountain(s). https://www.biblegateway.com/resources/encyclopedia-of-the-bible/El-Shaddai-El-Shadday

Mountain in that context is a representation of strength, not Ultimacy. It relates largely to Oyigiyigi, a title of Esu. Jehovah been God of the hill is acknowledged in 1 kings 20:23 and Judge 1:19

2. If you look at Exodus 6:2-3 closely, you will notice the word 'as'

And God said to Moses, “I am Yahweh—‘the LORD.’ I appeared to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob as El-Shaddai—‘God Almighty’—but I did not reveal my name, Yahweh, to them.

As is used to indicate by comparison the way that something happens or is done. Jehovah is comparing himself to El in term of strength.

I can be strong as Iron, doesn't mean I am Iron.

3. El shaddai is simply an epithet of God. It has nothing to do with been Almighty.

Maximus69:


I wish someone else could explain better to you that i'm not saying there is a literal altar or shrine where worshipers of personal gods practice their idolatry!

I said there is a SECRET altar IN THEIR HEART where they often bow down secretly to their own self!

Maximus69:
This is why greed and selfishness is everywhere today, Jesus' teachings totally contradicts this concept because he taught his own followers the direct opposite telling them to be selfless in their dealings with their fellowman! Matthew 5:38-48

Maximus69:
As for Jehovah the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob he proved himself to be the ALMIGHTY GOD by answering all the questions about the origin of life and how the problems we are facing today began!

Maximus69:
There is no race where this accurate knowledge can be found except Israel! So from the Bible it's clear that all other race were worshiping demons after Adam and Eve were driven out of the garden.

Maximus69:
Though you disputed all of these as mere fairytales so there's no need quoting the Bible to support your fallacious sentimental credulity of no value!
I've discussed with you on the BENEFITS of faith in Jehovah the Almighty God, even though you came back pleading with those who claims they believe in him to come and rescue you in times of need.

Maximus69:
So if there is no benefit in what you're saying then it's useless and hopeless!

Maximus69:
The personal god is direct WORSHIP offered to Satan!

All those who believe (trust) in personal god will never make peace with others because their only interest is how to gain and they care less about others!

FOLYKAZE:


Most High whom Jehovah inherited Israel from will prolly be Satan, God of this world

Maximus69:


Don't worry, sebi few weeks ago you were begging for everyone on Nairaland to come and help you financially they were praying in Jesus name and contributing, why not tell them Jesus is fictional back then?

Well my own God can supply all my needs that's why i'm not begging those who will lash me with words before contributing kókú lo kárùn lo for anything! Psalms 23:1

You shameless beggar!

Dotherightthing:
There is only one GOD! That is GOD ALMIGHTY. The God of Abramham, Issac and Isreal!
The Ccovenant Kkeeping God..

Any other is a toy!

FOLYKAZE:


Oh....those who sent me money were Muslims, Christians and some none believers. However, they related kindly not on religion grounds but human who cared for other humans.

I am proud of begging from humans who answered my prayers/petition. I didn't pray to your useless God, an impotent being of the fairy world.

Thank goodness nothing came from you or any JW on this forum. You had wanted my wife and daughter dead as JW doctrine don't support CS. But these lovely families on nairaland were stronger than your invisible Jehovah and delivered beyond the reach of your fairies.

Everytime I need help, I will return to them....and not to your Useless Jehovah because he didn't live except in your head.

MizMyColi:
Hello Religion Section!
I've missed you, my friends

MuttleyLaff, how do you do!?
LoJ my dearest
Sarassin
Analice, long time o

Pardon my unremberance of monikers

So I have this question.

Is it possible that we all have our own God that we should be conversing with, and maybe not focus on the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as our God might be incompatible with theirs?

Just thinking out loud.

What do you think?