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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:36pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Ibime: You live in England and have for the most part, consequently, it is a fair argument that you don’t understand American sports. It is like trying to help an American understand the excitement behind watching the Champions League final. Thank God for NBCSN who have British analysts in the 2 Robbie’s and Rebecca, if not, I for they tune them down like I do on TNT during Champions League games. Watching NFL on BBC is like listening to Maurice Edu, S. Holding and Steve Nash analyze a Champions League game. But for real though, try expand your horizon. It is evident that you are not attracted to American sports in comparison to British. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 8:40pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Roland17: I'm a certi guy in football, forget. My college team alone better pass any team you don play for before, and the competition was tough. I came across guys like Jerome Thomas, Enoch Showunmi and Kezie Ibe (my teammate) in my playing days and always held my own. I have University of London league golden boot from 04/05 season in my house till now. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by adebayo201: 9:22pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
BlueAngel444: Nah fish I go give you. 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:53pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Petr Cech won't ask Marina to go make cheap bid for Sergio Romero now. Even the Olympiakos leftback that Liverpool are on the verge of signing for £11m should be on our radar. Since we are splashing most of our budget on Havertz, it's these cheap upgrades that will make sense in our defence. 4 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 9:54pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Amoto94:Do you think it is good to criminalize any constructive criticism of the Prophet Mohammed? Do you support seun's decision to make people swear oaths before proffering their opinions on Islamic issues? |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 9:57pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Ibime:and u think Romero will come cheap from yoonited...once its a rival Chelsea side,,they will make d price astronomical 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:57pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Roland17: No commentator can sugar-coat why ball hasn't moved for 10 minutes abeg. And BBC have two former NFL players commentating sef, including one Naija-American guy. They come straight after Match of the Day on Saturday night in what used to be the slot for Championship football highlights. I curse the day BBC replaced Championship highlights with that bloody NFL show. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 9:59pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
macjireh: With one year on contract and at his age, it can't pass £10m. They are looking for money too this Covid period. Their budget only stretch to Sancho. Apparently they wanted Ake but Woodward told Ole he can't afford Ake until he sells. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 10:10pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
donjazet:There is an issue that leads to the oath swearing thing |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:13pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Leyqute:You go thief and them go catch you. You will suffer for 600 years. I go comot ya teeth just now ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:18pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Roland17: Actually most of the pundits on both the NFL show and during live games are Yanks. Quite knowledgeable ones too. The combo of Osi Umenyiora and Jason Bell on the NFL show are fantastic. I have learnt an awful lot from those two. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Herbiedeen(m): 10:18pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
BlueAngel444:Azpi ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:21pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 10:25pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Ibime:And you are ole's PA. ![]() you're doing well. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by chic2pimp(m): 10:25pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Ibime: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 10:28pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Unlimited22 Fellaini to Chelsea is gathering momentum 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 10:31pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Amoto94: You yourself said "there is room for debate on his validity and his messages" And the same you is saying you support the criminalising of criticism. How do you reconcile that? So you think I should be put in prison or fined heavily for calling Mohammed a pedophile or mass murderer when that was in fact what he was? 8 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Botfuss: 12:02am On Aug 10, 2020 |
![]() ![]() ![]() Classy bants from classic fans of a classic club. We 4-1ned Chelsea not to go to Munich o. 12 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by macjireh: 12:21am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Ibime:oya make we go buy na |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by FBS: 12:45am On Aug 10, 2020 |
airmark:Nothing much to add really. He gave his all, can't fault him and then most importantly no one should hold anything against a man for looking after himself and his family. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 12:52am On Aug 10, 2020 |
donjazet: We need to be careful and separate what is acceptable at certain times There are some acts acceptable then that are not now, just like there will be acts acceptable now that will be criminal in 500yrs time. If in 300yrs time the age of consent becomes 25, will those who dated people under 25 be adjudged as criminals? In the times past, warfare was common and that is how you win territories and defend yours. People we call legendary warriors from those times, Ghenghis Khan, Alexander, Sango etc all had their share of mass murder at that time killing was sport, its either you kill or be killed 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BlueAngel444: 12:54am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Leyqute:have they announced Sancho yet? Today is tenth o 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 1:28am On Aug 10, 2020 |
raumdeuter: Well, Jesus did not marry underage girls or go on a conquering killing spree to convert people. He served as a beacon of love and peace, at least according to the Bible which is the moral guide of Christians. That is one of the major reasons today why Christians don't resort to violence today for conversion, they would rather preach their hearts out just like the righteousness guy who spams the whole nairaland threads. ![]() Secondly, none of the guys you mentioned are regarded as paragons of virtues worthy of emulation. People admire the fact that they were war conquerors and land grabbers but nobody will want to emulate their individual characters and set it as standards upon which they live. I mean, Moslems embrace pedophilia because their prophet married and sexed a 9 year old baby girl. Shouldn't that be condemned? 19 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Amoto94(m): 6:45am On Aug 10, 2020 |
donjazet:You have already chosen your truth as it has always been the case with you whenever you are involved in a discussion you have least knowledge of, left for me I wouldn't have continued this discussion with you but clarification is needed for the silent observers who may be interested. In every debate actions and inactions ought to be discussed in their contextual forms to avoid distortion of terms and historical facts. As Muslims our sources are: Quran, authentically reported ahaadeeth and sometimes narrations from the people of book ( Jews and Christians) and there is a science of Islam from the sciences known as tafsir meaning exegesis which put into proper context the reason of a Quranic verse or hadeeth. Did Prophet Muhammad fought wars? Yes. Was he a mass murderer as you and some have categorically stated? No. Islam during the time of Prophet Muhammad began as a strange religion and early Muslims were persecuted by the idolators of Mecca some of them who are uncles of his, the Prophet was initially protected by his Uncle but his early followers suffered and from the first to be martyred was Summayah a woman. He was called all sorts of things and when the suffering became too much Allah commanded he and his followers to migrate to a safe place to practice their faith, at first some of his companions travelled to the kingdom of Abyssinia to seek refuge with a Christian king known as Negus. Later he and some other companions migrated to Medina when there was a plot to assassinate him by the ruling class of Mecca. On arriving at Medina he collaborated with the Muslims in Medina and Jews to establish a new state to safeguard their religion and worldly affairs, the idolators chased after the Muslims whilst they're in different land then a call for defensive warfare was proclaimed to safeguard their religion and state the first battle was called Badr, other battles were fought like Uhud, Khandaq, Tabouk, Yammammah etc of these some are offensive to serve as deterrent. There were rules of engagement and from them are you don't kill noncombatants, women, children, no burning of houses, cutting down of trees, granting asylum to those who seek it. All I have mentioned can be found in the books of tafsir (check Tafsir ibn Kathir Tafsir of AbdulRahman bin Nasir as-Sa'di, and that of Shaykh Muhammad bin Amman al-Shinqitee), Sahih Bukhari and Muslim among other sources. So it is inaccurate to call him a mass murderer when the facts putting into proper context states otherwise On the issue of his marriage the link I posted in my second reply to you is sufficient to answer your question. 10 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nezzjnr: 8:04am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:11am On Aug 10, 2020 |
raumdeuter: This is way below the belt ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by KingAlabi: 8:23am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Good morning my shekpite brethren, ibime you suppose dey bench Abraham, who knows you might have won the golden boot last season. phucking unacceptable. ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:27am On Aug 10, 2020 |
donjazet: Bros read about the crusades, the inquisition s, the history of the papacy, the holy Roman empire, etc. The reason you're not seeing large scale murder in the name of Christ, is due to religious and political reform....not because Jesus was a beacon of love anything The church was a bloodthirsty machine. You think the missionaries that came to convert your grandfather, didn't first have to soften up the population with holy gunshots? ![]() As recently as Things Fall Apart, Chinua Achebe wrote stories talking about what the white man had to do to get the okonkwos of this world on side...and this was even set after the transatlantic slave trade period - you can only imagine what was happening when slave trading was still a thing. certain aspects of Islam are problematic, but is there any religion that doesn't have a problem? The Bible literally has verses in it commanding people to plunder women and children: As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the LORD your God gives you from your enemies. - Deut 20:14 The Bible tells a story of God killing people for refusing to impregnate their late brothers wife. Fam, don't get it twisted, Christianity is as crazy as Islam if you know where to look. The issue isn't really about Islam, it's about you wanting the right to be offensive. Why is it so important that you're able to call Prophet Mohammed a pedophile? If you think he's a pedo that's fine, but why do you feel the need to inform a Muslim of that fact? Let's assume that I called your dad a paedo...im willing to bet you wouldn't be too pleased about that...even if you hate pedophiles and the allegation is true. It's a scenario up there, so relax. I didn't call your dad anything. My point is all religions are equally full of questionable beliefs...it's not surprising as most religions are thousands of years old. Any thing you want to criticise must first be contextualised within the original time period...age of consent included. I'm also willing to bet that your great-grandmother got married before she turned 16. That was life back then. It is what it is. 23 Likes 8 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 8:28am On Aug 10, 2020 |
Nezzjnr: ![]() ![]() ![]() Skimpledawg Unlimited22 any update on Mustafi to Stamford Brdige? Willian has already arrived in North London. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:35am On Aug 10, 2020 |
nihilistjnr:lol,don't mind the guy,the kind war wey European christains don fight for this life in the name of their religion ehh ,peaceful keh,my favourite na 30 years war,though that does not excuse Muslims Sha,their countries na the most intolerant for this world 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:47am On Aug 10, 2020 |
madrid5: A lot of these Islamic issues are really political issues. The head of Islam in Nigeria is not just a random Mallam...it's a political office with a throne and Kingdom (sultan of Sokoto) A lot of countries in the middle East were quite liberal till the 50s-70s. Egypt was liberal Iran was liberal Iraq where ISIS called home was religiously liberal under Saddam Turkey is still pretty liberal Taliban only took over Afghanistan in 1996, prior to that it was religiously liberal Syria prior to ISIS was quite liberal It's really only been Saudi that has been carrying religion on their head again due to the location of the holy relics. The Saudi elite have cut deals with the salafists for political reasons. All those Saudi dons move very different though ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 8:55am On Aug 10, 2020 |
nihilistjnr: You made so many points, I will try to address some. You see, right now i am not condemning the religion based on what it entails or what happened many years ago, I am condemning it based on what is happening today, at this very moment. Today, Moslems are still encouraging pedophiles. Moslems are still killing millions of people all over the world in the name of allah. You have stated that Christianity underwent massive political and religious reform, then why can't Muslim's do the same? Christianity was able to undergo reform because it's adherents relentlessly pushed for changes to be made. From Luther Martin and the rest. Instead, you have a situation whereby people are not allowed to criticize Islam despite its shortcomings. That is simply too bad and that is what spurs my condemnation right now. Concerning your point of taking offense, well, if my dad was a pedophile who defiled a 9 year old baby, I personally would be outraged and disgusted by him, why then would i feel offended when others also criticize him for this? I would also criticize him because what he has done is absolutely despicable. Having sex with a 9 year old is in essence rape of a child. Nobody should have to justify that. You also making the point about age of consent in those days is irrelevant because right now people are still using his actions to justify their pedophilia. If my grandmother married before 16, does that have to mean my daughter should also marry before 16? No. We have evolved in our thinking and decision making. nobody should have to justify a 72 year old man marrying and having sex with a 9 year old baby girl, but that is what is happening because they have refused to reform and still cling onto that archaic practices. There is hardly any other religion today killing sporadically for conversion or marrying babies or legally undermining women so why shouldn't we speak the truth and condemn them? 19 Likes 6 Shares |
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