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Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by FOLYKAZE(m): 10:28am On Aug 09, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Oruko eni ma so omo, inu eni ni o wa 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by Nobody: 10:53am On Aug 09, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: JWs have faced many powerful enemies in times past so you're nowhere to be found unless we will need a microscope to see you in the picture! ![]() I was a Muslim before i notice the light in their midst so it's not my religion from birth, i'm just a new convert in their midst, so if you try any shit with me i'll drag you in the quagmire the way we used to do to bloody civilians like you in the army. JWs have their own religion before i joined them and they will not ask me to be silent for you unless i wish to. But it's obvious you're just looking for people to come in between us and let me tell you that JWs will never do that! ![]() |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by MuttleyLaff: 10:54am On Aug 09, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:"Rachel was about to die, but with her last breath she named the baby Ben-oni (which means “son of my sorrow”). The baby’s father, however, called him Benjamin (which means “son of my right hand”)." - Genesis 35:18 This is true, about "Oruko eni ma so omo, inu eni ni o wa". It is more the reason why God changed Abram's name to Abraham, Sarai's name to Sarah. Why Jacob, was renamed Israel, and why Jacob, knowing the power and importance of a name, changed his last born's name, given by his mother to Benjamin. The real and personal name of God is related to a verb, of action, it is of the sort of what He does. It is such a sacred and powerful name, that it isn't revealed to any human being, inspite of Him, being asked a few times, what His name is. Names are important. Without one, it’s very hard to introduce yourself to others. However, having a wrong name can also be a burden, which is why Jacob wisely changed his son's name to Benjamin. We have to be careful with choosing names because they can be prophetic. Names like Abel, Methuselah et cetera, are prophetic names that carried out the essence and/or the import of what the name means. Of course, you dont necessarily judge someone by their name, dont judge a book by its cover but you judge them by what's inside or their actions. Just because you're called Abacha, it doesnt mean you're in nature, a military dictator 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by FOLYKAZE(m): 11:00am On Aug 09, 2020 |
Maximus69: Yawn..... Jehovah couldn't crush suffering of humanity. JW have no known solution to the world problem. You can be a Musilimu or babalawo. It is not of my business if you can't tan isoro mi. You saw JW having many enemies but you have to tell us about the enemy within enmity of JW with the high rising child sex abuse happening there in your church. Please tell, is child sex abuse part humanism in JW? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by Nobody: 11:18am On Aug 09, 2020 |
Social media beggar! ![]() FOLYKAZE: |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by FOLYKAZE(m): 12:11pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Maximus69: Child molester. Senile coward run away soldier Nairalanders provided for me, not you or your non existing Jehovah... JW, Jehovah and you are inconsequential in the scheme of things 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by Nobody: 2:25pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Social media beggar! ![]() FOLYKAZE: |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by orisa37: 3:49pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Righteousness89: In Yoruba He is OLODUMARE ( The COVENANTS Maker, Convener and Keeper) 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by orisa37: 3:55pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Vyzz: Who no get will manufacture one to get going. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by orisa37: 4:01pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
MizMyColi: They're called by God's Name and God will heal their Land. |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by achorladey: 7:11pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Maximus69: Where did they get........... district overseer....... Circuit overseers............. Governing Body.......pioneers........ Publisher. What are these called? Perhaps LABEL ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by achorladey: 7:15pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Rilwayne001: Love this as highlighted in your post...If you'd be a good Christian and be as devoted as you've portrayed yourself, should you even be using his platform in the first place? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by achorladey: 7:22pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The proverbs above make me remember Paul's word below........ 1 Corinthians 4:6,7 Now, brothers and sisters, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, “Do not go beyond what is written.” Then you will not be puffed up in being a follower of one of us over against the other. 7 For who makes you different from anyone else? What do you have that you did not receive? And if you did receive it, why do you boast as though you did not? 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by FOLYKAZE(m): 7:23pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Maximus69:Child molester. Senile coward run away soldier 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by achorladey: 7:26pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Rilwayne001: When dealing with JWs go past public relations. We know how organizations use public relations to mask so many things. Go deeper than public relations. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by MuttleyLaff: 10:28pm On Aug 09, 2020 |
Righteousness89: orisa37:Yorubas, by means of singular or conglomerate of verb(s), form names from a word or portmanteau, that describes a state, action or occurrence of the thing referred to. Fridge(s), in Yoruba parlance, is/are called "Ẹrọ amunu tutu or Ẹrọ-amunu-tutu" It is a portmanteau word formulated from translating "machine with a technology which gets the belly/stomach cold," that is what "Ẹrọ amunu tutu or Ẹrọ-amunu-tutu" means, as far as Yorubas are concerned, whenever object are taken from the fridge, eaten or drunk, it ends up making the stomach/belly cold The English word, God, represents, a kaleidoscope of many meanings, but "OLODUMARE", in Yoruba parlance, is the name assigned to God, and it will interest enquiry minds, to know that "OLODUMARE" is a portmanteau word, formed from putting together, coming from an observation viewpoint, words that describes what this enigmatic and very powerful Supreme Being is. The other alternate form names of "OLODUMARE" are: "Edumare" and "ElÈdumare" "OLODUMARE" is also known as "ỌLỌRUN" In Yoruba parlance, "ỌLỌRUN" is another portmanteau word, which means "Owner of the heavens or sky expanse" or "Owner of the firmament" "OLO, ỌLỌ, OL' or ELÈ or EL'" means Owner, while "ỌRUN" means "the heavens or sky expanse" hence "ỌLỌ-RUN" Cycling back to the portmanteau word "OLODUMARE" name of God, in Yoruba manner of speaking, the name is derived from the following words: 1/ "OLO" - means, Owner, 2/ "ODU" - means, mystery, mystical attributes, a thing or being that is mysterious. It also means energy 3/ "MA" - means, knows 4/ "RE" - actually is "ire" and means, blessing So when, the words, OLO, ODU, MA and RE, are joined together, we have "OLODUMARE" revealing a profound and thoughtful deep meaning that indicates the truth and/or existence of an Energy, Supreme Spirit Being, who is not just the Owner of unique energy but also is in possession of mystery/mystical knowledge of all manners of blessing. Since God is the highest level of energy. It is from this energy, that everything is created. In fact, Odu, directs all forces at all level of existence, hence, it is this same mystery and/or energy, that's the power behind the creation of all living and non-living things. One of the most important of the mystical attributes of God is volition. Without volition, there is no God, and there won't be forces, natural laws, rules and/or principles Profoundly observing, God has always being EL and this is evident in the Yoruba variant name of God, "ELÈdumare" The prefix EL, as previously intimated, means, Owner, an Influential Owner (e.g. Elijah is: My God, is Yahweh/YHWH, Elihu is: My God, is He, or Ọlọrunfẹmi is: God, loves me) I dare say Yoruba beliefs and mythos is very rich. As I've earlier advanced, Chukwu, in Igbo cosmos, is a product formed from two Igbo words "chi" and "ukwu", that computes to mean big god or great god. Chukwu, in the real sense of it, isn't Yahweh, the God in the Bible but simply is a god, that now, so as to pretend, is taken to be YHWH or Yahweh, the God in the Bible The Igbos, and the Yorubas, just as like the Men of Athens, inadvertently, just and unknowingly could, in their general consensus in the existence of a single creator, lol, be worshipping the true God (i.e. Acts 17:23-31) Now, the thing is, God wants, us having a relationship with Him, and not having a relationshit with god(s) You cannot practice consulting the dead, practice ancestor worship or practice spiritism and be a follower of the one and only true God (i.e. Deuteronomy 18:10-13) cc: FOLYKAZE, MizMyColi 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by bigfrancis21: 8:16am On Aug 10, 2020 |
CassieV: Sure thing. What details precisely do you need? |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by CassieV(f): 5:00pm On Aug 10, 2020 |
bigfrancis21:I saw a previous post of yours where you talked about spiritguides and how they can take on a human form to help the soul they're guiding when they're in their greatest need. And I've also heard about how we should always listen to our intuition because it's never wrong. Is it safe to say that the spiritguide, the intuition and the igbo Chi is the same? |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by MuttleyLaff: 11:00pm On Aug 10, 2020 |
bigfrancis21: CassieV: CassieV:Please dont get it twisted because it is only the Godhead, and celestial beings, seraphim, cherubim, extraterrestrial beings, at the authorisation of God, who take on human form (e.g. Yahshua Ha Mashiach aka Jesus Christ) or take on what appears to look like human form (e.g. Angel of the Lord, extraterrestrial and celestial beings) to help the soul they're guiding when they're in their greatest need. There is no recorded account of any other spirit bar the above listed Spirit and/or spirit of ever taking on human form. It is an impossicant! CassieV:"For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world." - 1 John 2:16 "The woman was convinced. She saw that the tree was beautiful and its fruit looked delicious, and she wanted the wisdom it would give her. So she took some of the fruit and ate it. Then she gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it, too" - Genesis 3:6 Learn from 1 John 2:16 and Genesis 3:6 Bible 101, never listen to any contrary intuition, at the expense of violating and not respect the word/command/law of God CassieV:"4For great is the LORD, and greatly to be praised; He is to be feared above all gods. 5For all the gods of the nations are idols, but it is the LORD who made the heavens. 6Splendor and majesty are before Him; strength and beauty fill His sanctuary" - Psalm 96:5 "Do not turn to idols or make for yourselves molten gods. I am the LORD your God" - Leviticus 19:4 "Now the rest of mankind who were not killed by these plagues still did not repent of the works of their hands. They did not stop worshiping demons and idols of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see or hear or walk." - Revelation 9:20 "'How horrible it will be for the one who says to a piece of wood, "Wake up!" and to a stone that cannot talk, "Get up!' " Can that thing teach [anyone]? Just look at it! It's covered with gold and silver, but there's absolutely no life in it."" - Habakkuk 2:19 There is, only the Holy Spirit, that guides. Dont allow an intuition, bereft of the guidance of the Holy Spirit, rise to any prominence. In the Igbo cosmology and/or mythology, there are many or there are more than one "chi". The Igbos believe that there is a "chi" that creates and there are personal "chi(s)" It would interest you to know that, in Igbo parlance, "chi" means god, guide, influence, intelligence et cetera and "ike or eke" means "create", "know-how" "divide", "force", "power", "energy", "might", "capacity", "ability" et cetera and so what's more interesting is the fact that, "chineke" is a portmanteau word, formed them two words "chi" and "ike or eke" and of course, it means, "guide that creates" "god who creates" or "god that creates" "god with know-how" "god with power, force energy, might, ability creates" et cetera The Igbos, believe that, the reason for the existence of this "chi" is to create, hence why particularly, the "chi" is called creator or chineke (i.e. the guide and/or god, that creates) Now, if you believe that this "chi" is omnipotent, omnipresent and omniscient, who doesnt share His glory with any other "chi" then, the "chi" becomes "Chi", Chineke and/or Creator. There is no vacancy, for any other "chi," I am talking of no vacancy to fill, for personal "chi" here, except for "Chi" "11For He will command His angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways. 12They will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone." - Psalm 91:11-12 It is "Chi" who dispatches celestial beings aka angels, to watch over you. Personal "chi(s)" are not spiritguide(s) and they are unable to do or achieve anything. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by sonmvayina(m): 11:21pm On Aug 10, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:I love you. 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by sonmvayina(m): 11:24pm On Aug 10, 2020 |
Maximus69: You are just a moroon.. What an excuse for a human being.. Tufia 1 Like |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by sonmvayina(m): 11:31pm On Aug 10, 2020 |
MizMyColi: As above so below |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by Kobojunkie: 2:26am On Aug 11, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE:Hephzibah is not a Christian Name but a Jewish name, with Jewish meaning. Many of what people term Christiann names are not Christian at all. Names like Paul, Peter, James are Christian names...removed from their Jewish roots.
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Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by joyandfaith: 3:48am On Aug 11, 2020 |
MizMyColi: yes |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by joyandfaith: 4:12am On Aug 11, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: begging for help ps 37:25 I have been young, and now am old; yet have I not seen the righteous forsaken, nor his seed begging for bread. Matthew 6:33 matt 6:33 But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. Giving others matt 6:1-4 6 “Be careful not to practice your righteousness in front of others to be seen by them. If you do, you will have no reward from your Father in heaven. 2 “So when you give to the needy, do not announce it with trumpets, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, to be honored by others. Truly I tell you, they have received their reward in full. 3 But when you give to the needy, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your giving may be in secret. Then your Father, who sees what is done in secret, will reward you. |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by joyandfaith: 4:31am On Aug 11, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: causes of human suffering Revelation 12:12, NIV: "Therefore rejoice, you heavens and you who dwell in them! But woe to the earth and the sea, because the devil has gone down to you! He is filled with fury, because he knows that his time is short.'" ecc 8:9 All of this I have seen, and I applied my heart to every work that has been done under the sun, during the time that man has dominated man to his harm. 2 Tim 3:1-5 But know this, that in the last days critical times hard to deal with will be here. For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, haughty, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, disloyal, having no natural affection, not open to any agreement, slanderers, without self-control, fierce, without love of goodness, betrayers, headstrong, puffed up with pride, lovers of pleasures rather than lovers of God, having an appearance of godliness but proving false to its power; and from these turn away. solution to human suffering dan 2:44. in the time of those kings, the God of heaven will set up a kingdom that will never be destroyed, nor will it be left to another people. It will crush all those kingdoms and bring them to an end, but it will itself endure forever. 2pet 3:9-13 Jehovah is not slow concerning his promise, as some people consider slowness, but he is patient with you because he does not desire anyone to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance. But Jehovah’s day will come as a thief, in which the heavens will pass away with a roar, but the elements being intensely hot will be dissolved, and earth and the works in it will be exposed. Since all these things are to be dissolved in this way, consider what sort of people you ought to be in holy acts of conduct and deeds of godly devotion, as you await and keep close in mind the presence of the day of Jehovah, through which the heavens will be destroyed in flames and the elements will melt in the intense heat! But there are new heavens and a new earth that we are awaiting according to his promise, and in these righteousness is to dwell. |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by joyandfaith: 4:35am On Aug 11, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: have humans find solutions to human problems? do you think humans would ever find lasting solutions to problems facing humans? |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by joyandfaith: 4:50am On Aug 11, 2020 |
Rilwayne001: David wrote that he had “not seen anyone righteous abandoned, nor his children looking for bread.” He thus made a general statement based on his own experience. He well knew God’s consistent care. ( Ps. 37:25 ) David’s words, however, do not mean that no worshipper ever suffered want or ever will. There were times when David himself experienced trying circumstances. One such time was when he was fleeing from Saul. David’s provisions were low, and he asked for bread for himself and those who were with him. ( 1 Sam. 21:1-6 ) So in that instance, David was “looking for bread.” Yet, in that critical situation, he knew that Jehovah had not forsaken him. The fact is, we nowhere read that David had to beg in order to obtain the food he needed to survive. At Matthew 6:33 , we find Jesus’ assurance that God will fill the needs of faithful servants who put Kingdom interests first in life. “Keep on, then, seeking first the Kingdom and his righteousness,” Jesus said, “and all these other things [including food, drink, and clothing] will be added to you.” However, Jesus also indicated that because of persecution, his “brothers” might experience hunger. (Matt. 25:35, 37, 40 ) That happened to the apostle Paul. He at times experienced hunger and thirst. — 2 Cor. 11:27 . Jehovah tells us that we will be persecuted in various ways. He may allow us to undergo deprivation as we help to answer the charges brought by the Devil. ( Job 2:3-5 ) For example, some of our fellow Christians, such as those who were put in Nazi concentration camps, have found themselves in peril because of persecution. Depriving the Witnesses of adequate food was one diabolical method used in an effort to break their integrity. Faithful Witnesses remained obedient to Jehovah; he did not forsake them. He allowed them to undergo this trial, just as he permits all Christians to face trials of various sorts. However, there is no doubt that Jehovah supports all who suffer for his name’s sake. ( 1 Cor. 10:13 ) We can bear in mind the words of Philippians 1:29 : “You have been given the privilege in behalf of Christ, not only to put your faith in him but also to suffer in his behalf.” Jehovah promises to be with his servants. Isaiah 54:17 , for example, states: “No weapon formed against you will have any success.” This and similar promises guarantee the safety of God’s people as a whole. Individually, though, a Christian may undergo tests, even to the point of death. www.jw.org 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by Nobody: 5:05am On Aug 11, 2020 |
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Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by MuttleyLaff: 6:47am On Aug 11, 2020 |
FOLYKAZE: Kobojunkie:Which is why I earlier advanced that the pastor was ignorant and that FOLYKAZE should have stuck to his guns with the at hand Yoruba names. He could have added to her already Yoruba names, any of the following these: "AdunniOluwa" "Oluladunsimi" "Didunnimi" "Orisunadun" "Olutamiladun" "Adunlatokewa" "Aduntojọmiloju" "Adunlatoluwa" "Adunmare" "Oluladunsimi" "Oludunsimi" "Adunnilọmọ" "Adunbanle" "Adunfunkẹ" et cetera delight |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by bigfrancis21: 7:59am On Aug 11, 2020 |
CassieV: To a large extent, yes they are the same. The concept of the spirit guide or 'chi' is deeply entrenched in the Igbo culture. My late mother would often say things like, 'chi gi azo gi taa' or 'chi gi mu anya'. I can't count how many times I listened to my intuition, that deep inner voice, when I needed help or guidance or when it warned me against danger and I listened, and it is always right. The inner voice is a distinct one from your usual thoughts. Also, I find out that many African myths contain certain facts, such as reincarnation, which today are 'unchristian' but are actually valid. This person here provides more details and much more on spirit guides: https://goop.com/wellness/spirituality/how-to-connect-with-your-spirit-guides/ 2 Likes |
Re: Is It Possible That Each Individual Has Their Own God (chi)? by sonmvayina(m): 8:06am On Aug 11, 2020 |
Maximus69: And I am 100% right.. |
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