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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by LegendHero(m): 4:37pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: Brother this is the last time I will engage you on this issue and listen attentively. Yoruba culture and theology is too vast for you to just come up and start parroting words and their meaning. In Yoruba theology, Ori means a lot of things and one of it's many form is the Iponri The ibori (sometimes ipori or iponri) symbolizes the ‘inner head’, that is the individual’s personal destiny (ori means head). Like I said earlier, One's ori-inu (spiritual consciousness in the physical realm) must grow in order to consummate union with one's "Iponri" (Ori Orun, spiritual self). That is why till today, the Ifa priests perform some ritual called "Ibori" and usually used to cleanse the Ori. In the Iba’se (i.e. the prayer of praise), Iponri occured in that Ifa and occurred in other Odus of Ifa. Iba Olodumare Iba Ogege, Oba ti ngb’ aiye gun Iba Onile Iba Elawori Iba’se ila Oorun Iba’se iwo Oorun Iba Ori Iba Ori inu Iba Iponri ti o wa l’Orun (Homage to the Spirit of the Higher Self who lives in the Invisible Realm of the Ancestors). Iba Orunmila, Eleri ipin iku dudu atewo, oro to si gbogbo ona etc. The Yoruba culture is a living thing and not a product of fabrication. It is an authentic culture and you can't just come here as an uninitiated and think you will understand all word in literary terms. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 4:41pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:You clearly do not have enough knowledge of Bini to even be here , The first Bini Oba was Eweka |, Aiguobasinwin ovoramwen also took the title Eweka || to rule |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 4:41pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: Seems overran has a new meaning Lol... Little resistance means overran... Benin were not even interested in the battle... Lest I forget...weren't u chased back 2 Likes
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 4:43pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: 1 Like
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 4:46pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero:Most African history and culture is purely a piece of fabrication with no form of reliable record, Don't beat chest here or you explain to me who gave Oduduwa parachute that he used to descend from heaven 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 4:47pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: I swear, their history no favour their ego, no wonder smaller tribes in SS don't wanna associate with them 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by adadike(f): 4:48pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Interesting. Thank you oforigbo and obatule. Now, I know that oguta and the rest are truly igbos that migrated back to their home land. And igodomigodo is truly an Igbo man 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 4:48pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
[quote author=Etinosa1234 post=92742393][/quote] Eweka is a corruption of iweka which means Anger is better, Bini Obas ruled with so much anger |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 4:49pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234: Which is why the Oba's palace should come and learn real tradition from me. Now getting back to the Portuguese explorers' reports, it is clear that Nri had 1. Political 2. Cultural 3. Spiritual Overlordship over Benin Political in the sense that the Eze Nri had the last say as to whether any Oba-ship aspirant was granted permission to mount the royal stool Cultural, because even today, Benin still makes use of the 4 Nri market days e.t.c. The spiritual angle is all encompassing as it meanders throughout the Benin cultural and political life. Benin people even told the Portuguese that the Eze Nri was the greatest royal in the whole surroundings, so we know this is very authentic. This was when 419 was an unknown illness in Benin. WHen elders told the truth, and they told the visiting Portuguese the simple truth. The funny thing was that the Benin chiefs did not mention anything about Ife or the Yorubas or any kingdom to the West to the Portuguese. I wonder why 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 4:49pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: Etinosa1234 after defeating typical ipob, this is one of their getaway card - INSULT |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by LegendHero(m): 4:52pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: Lol, you should speak about your own culture which is obviously non-existent or not that important for historians to take keen interest in it. Again, you guys just see statements and think they should translate to the literary terms but most of those statements can only be understood by the initiated. That is why we have the concept of Awo and Ogberi. You should rather devote your time to study your own culture devoid of false assertions and try to be original. 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 4:53pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion:History shouldn't be about Ego, history is about facts.... History in Nigeria especially the southern parts has been replaced with folktales like someone falling from heaven without parachute, We must start using our heads 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by LegendHero(m): 4:53pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: Lol. You are truly a comedian! 2 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 4:55pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero:I am studying my history and culture Objectively, You are still banking on folktales.....All of us must study our history objectively with an open mind 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 4:57pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero: Nnaa you are speaking too much Yoruba, in a reply that ought to only take up one sentence. I need to know where INNER ends, and HEAD begins Does IPON means INNER? 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 4:57pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero: Dat guy role model na akpororo 2 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 4:59pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
OfoIgbo:So the Oba palace that have housed all the previous Obas and seen things should leave tradition and listen to ipob miscreants Pathetic ObA PaLAce shOUld lEarN fRom mE 2 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by LegendHero(m): 5:07pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: Banking on folktale when most of what I say is derived from the 16 Odu Ifa which you can compare to the bible and Quran of the foreign religions. Just go online and read a little bit about the Odu-Ifas and see how intelligent our ancestors are in trying to create Ifa as a metaphysical mapping as a cognitive matrix. Each of the 16 Odus carry meaning and the culture of Yorubas are also embedded in them. Have you wondered why the Yoruba culture and history are widely studied by historians with keen interest? Even among the African slaves transported across the Atlantic, the Yoruba culture is the strongest which explain why we have people with strong ties to their ancestors in the Americas. That culture is supreme and you don't need to do too much research before you can see it manifest in the Yoruba life daily. I really feel sorry for you as an Igbo because even your kinsmen are dissociating themselves from their Igbo culture because they have nothing historical to be proud of about it. That is why you are struggling to lay the claim that all cultures are fabricated because your own culture is obviously Fabricated. 1 Like
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:07pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero:You guys are the real comedians for making up elaborate folk stories overtime and trying to turn it into truth |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 5:11pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule:Don't cry because we don't believe ur folktales 1 Like
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:11pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero:loool!!! Where did you get the IFA divinition from?....Igbos have AfA, Bini has Eha, the igalas call their own IFA too.....Stop feeling so fly, IFA divinition preceds Yoruba people and their tradition |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:13pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:Oba of Bini that Wike bought with money to lie about ikwerre people |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:15pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion:No wonder Ijebu people vehemently deny Yoruba ancestry, your History is a bunch of fairytales stringed together to sound like truth
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:19pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:But no reasonable person will believe your folktales, Imagine European historians came to Bini and the Oba started telling them how the land was formerly ruled by Ogisos who where Sky beings, What a joke of a history |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:21pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero:So your culture is based on divinition and not recorded history or archeological findings?...No wonder Your people believe harvesting peoples head will somehow give them money |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:24pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:Little or no resistance is what you put up and it was overran with little or no effort |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by LegendHero(m): 5:26pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: Lol Igalas can be said to be Yoruba sub-group and that gives credence to my assertions that the Igbos most time derive their cultural/historical authenticity by attaching to the Yorubas. You made mention that Igbos had Afa, just go now on google and look for where Afa originated from, it originated majorly from the Northern Igbos. Even if you look at it, the Igalas conquered many Northern Igbo mini-states like Opi, Nsukka, Nsugbe, and etc. Even if we are going to now link all these things back, It will still lead to the authentic one Ifa (Yoruba). Or will you deny Afa originated mostly from Northern Igbo? 2 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 5:28pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: This ur tribe?
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:34pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:Exactly what I'm trying to say, All this existing histories have one thing in common, they are mostly fairy tales that must be re-examined and reviewed with an open mind, They are currently historical jokes when compared to histories of other parts of the world 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:39pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
LegendHero:Afa divinition is found in all parts of igboland, my town is not in Northern igboland but The belief in AfA was used extensively in settling disputes, inquiring about lives and reincarnations and so on, yorubas just over blew the whole thing when it got to them. Afa never originated from yoruba, yorubas got it from Igbos through igala |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 5:43pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Obalatule: They have in common doesn't mean one is the father of one... Got it |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Obalatule: 5:45pm On Aug 12, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:That was never the point though |
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