illicit:
Ifa my ass

PAGAN9JA:

Jesus my shy.t and muhammad my di.ck.

illicit:


lol I don't have a religion anymore

PAGAN9JA:
IFA & ORISA INITIATION

There are several steps that may be taken on the road to Ifa Initiation.

ISEFA : This is when you receive your one hand of Ifa and protection Ide for your wrist. This is a preliminary step to initiation for those who want to receive the shrine of Ifa but are not ready to gain full initiation. This give a person access to Ifa for weekly prayer request, communication, to be able to give offerings to Ifa, etc.

ITEFA : Itefa is full initiation to Ifa. When Initiating to Ifa you will usually prepare ahead of time for travel to Nigeria with your spiritual family, Babalawo and Iyanifa who will come together with other members of the community in Nigeria who will take you through the process to receive the rituals, rites, ceremonies to consecrate your spirit with the spirit of Ifa.

ORISA INITIATION : Orisa Initiation crowns you to the Ase of the Orisa and their spiritual characteristics by placing their power into your spirit via your Ori. Prior to Orisa initiation and after, an Orisa devotee is dedicated to connecting with their shrines and learning and growing in the wisdom of the Orisa. A reading is usually done early on to see which Orisa governs your Ori (inner spirit/head) or it may be revealed through general divination. This gives insight to the Orisa that is very important for you to connect to spiritually. Many times one may receive the shrine of their Orisa prior to Initiation to begin the process of communicating with their Orisa and developing a more personal relationship. The Initiation ceremony to any Orisa is an act of being reborn into a new role/life that brings about necessary and positive changes in your life leading you to the path of achieving your most positive destiny. Initiation to Orisa will be done under the guidance of your Babalorisa and/or Iyalorisa. You will travel with them to Nigeria for at least a week to embark on your journey to Initiation.

ORISA INITIATION IS OFFERED FOR THE FOLLOWING ORISA

Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, etc.

Whichever deity you believe matches your aura.

If you belong to other tribes, consult your elders about your tribes traditional religion and get yourself initiated in your respective native societies.

illicit:
lol I don't have a religion anymore

MuttleyLaff:
There is no need to travel anywhere, there is no need of hocus-pocus, hence no need of babalawo or iyanifa, there is no need of blindfolding, there is no need for face and/or body paints, there is no need of ritualising, there is no of initiation ceremony(ies), there is no need for Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, Saponna et cetera deities to match your aura, because you just come to God, the Lord God, who is One, simply just the way, you are, just stay put wherever you are, without any need of travelling anywhere and the beauty, is that, you also have no need of any gods/deities before Him

Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, Saponna et cetera deities dont promise anyone salvation of their souls (i.e. "ori" in Yoruba mythology is soul), they dont and havent promised to, forever, fix and resolve the scourge of sin, death, sickness, sorrow, affliction, hurt, pain et cetera finally or once and for all

MuttleyLaff:
You actually and really need to have religion. You need to have pure and undefiled religion, the sort of religion, that God finds no fault in.

PAGAN9JA:
Shut up.

PAGAN9JA:
You want us to worship a dead jewish man or what?

PAGAN9JA:
A powerless self-proclaimed deity who couldn't even save himself. He had to cry and beg God to save him.

illicit:
ur audacity is what baffles me

illicit:
u are a human being like me, yet u want to force ur very own malady on me.

illicit:
What makes u think u need a religion

MuttleyLaff:
It is down to not being blessed with the spirit if timidity or fear but given that of love, power and a sound mind

You're absolutely right that, I am human just as you are, but thhe last thing you'll ever find me do is force, so you are wrong in reasoning that I am forcing anything on you.

Religion, that's pure and undefiled, makes the world go round, it makes the engine of the world run smoothly, it alleviates suffering, problems, pains, social ills, injustice et cetera

illicit:
let Boko Haram catch u, that's when u will know u ain't get any power

Exmilitant:
Sad to see Africans maligning their own in favour of a foriegn one that don't care about them.. I am happy to know that the Yoruba has an organized religion. The Igbos and those of us from the Niger Delta have lost it! And i belief they are the ones poking fun at the OP.

MuttleyLaff:
"⁷A thousand may fall at your side,
And ten thousand at your right hand; But it shall not come near you.
⁸Only with your eyes shall you look,
And see the reward of the wicked.
⁹Because you have made the Lord, who is my refuge,
Even the Most High, your dwelling place,
¹⁰No evil shall befall you,
Nor shall any plague come near your dwelling;
¹¹For He shall give His angels charge over you,
To keep you in all your ways.
¹²In their hands they shall bear you up,
Lest you dash your foot against a stone.
¹³You shall tread upon the lion and the cobra,
The young lion and the serpent you shall trample underfoot.
¹⁴“Because he has set his love upon Me, therefore I will deliver him;
I will set him on high, because he has known My name.
¹⁵He shall call upon Me, and I will answer him;
I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him and honor him.
¹⁶With long life I will satisfy him, And show him My salvation.”"
- Psalm 97:7-16

Notwithstanding, "whatever can happen, will happen," I stand by and on the entirety of the Psalm 97:7-16 words explicitly stated with assurance, as seen above.

I dont have jazz, dont have juju, dont have need of Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja, Saponna et cetera deities, it is the one and true universal God that my reliance, confidence and faith is on

illicit:
u don't need a religion to believe in God.

illicit:
I believe in God but not religion

illicit:
That CAN chairman knows these verses u shared too, don't u think so?

MuttleyLaff:
God explicitly inform the kind of religion He approves

I didnt, not even for a nanosecond, doubt that you dont believe in God

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I would expect he knows those verses and more, so the point you are trying to make with this remark is then what?

illicit:
it didn't help him

MuttleyLaff:
Excuse me. Would you please mind your choice of words, language and start typing like a matured mind that I perceive that you are

Sango, Osun, Oya, Esu, Egbe, Ogun, Obatala, Olokun, Iyemonja deities are dead, but God forever, is alive and lives

Please bring forward your proof of Yahshua Ha Mashiach, crying and begging God to save Him.

Exmilitant:
Sad to see Africans maligning their own in favour of a foriegn one that don't care about them.. I am happy to know that the Yoruba has an organized religion. The Igbos and those of us from the Niger Delta have lost it! And i belief they are the ones poking fun at the OP.

PAGAN9JA:
You dont deserve civilized words.

PAGAN9JA:
Actually people like you dont deserve to live in civilization because you have no resprct for others beliefs.

PAGAN9JA:
You are the pathetic arseholes of the society who brought Nigeria to its current state of ruin today.

PAGAN9JA:
Your jesus is dead and he was a bastard son of a prostitute dont forget that as well. He can never be a god.

PAGAN9JA:
He claimed to save us but he and his dirty religion has turned the world into a bigger mess spreading strife and religious discord.

PAGAN9JA:
As for proof go read your bible dont ask me silly questions.

PAGAN9JA:
jesus is dead while our Spirits are forever present in the spiritual realm. The Gods can never die or be alive. That is only for humans like jesus.