Firstly I have to be grateful to nature and for the arrival of the Age of Aquarius which we are already into currently. Also I want to appreciate all the gods of religions who converted to scientific gods in a bid to bring the TRUTH OF THE UNIVERSES to humanities and humanoids in other planets and universes in existence. Lastly I want to appreciate all the gods of science for their triumph in caging and removing consciousness from millions of unrepentant religious gods who have refused to let humanities and humanoids in other planets have rest of mind and focus on more discoveries of God Almighty, the SOURCE OF ALL THINGS.

I have earlier brought to our notice the model which reveals the Totality of Existence. The model below is the one which reveals the spiritual cage where we have successfully confined Jehovah, Allah, Moloch, El, Enlil, Anu, Shiva, Eshu and other millions of religious gods who have refused to cooperate in moving the course of humanity and humanoids forward multiversally. They insisted that worshipping is better than making research and discoveries scientifically. They want people to see things narrowly through the spectrum of religion rather than through the telescope of science.

I have not failed to give updates on the imprisonments of these gods and I won't fail to do so till I leave the earth to continue my explorations of other parts of our universe and other universes.

Now check the model carefully to see the position occupied by the spiritual cage of these religious beings.

Interesting.

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Hello otem please I have been trying to communicate with you... Please can you reply�

Xioxing:
Hello otem please I have been trying to communicate with you... Please can you reply�

Hello

OtemAtum:
Hello

Please, I have some other questions.

1. Who are aliens in your own view?
2. What do you think about the existence of aliens on earth (especially currently)?
3. Are aliens real?
4. If so, are they hiding from us?
5. Why do scientists and world's governments dismiss alien and UFO reports? Why do say they don't exist?

Thanks a lot.

OtemAtum:
Hello

I want to send you a private message please.

gensteejay:

Please, I have some other questions.

1. Who are aliens in your own view?
2. What do you think about the existence of aliens on earth (especially currently)?
3. Are aliens real?
4. If so, are they hiding from us?
5. Why do scientists and world's governments dismiss alien and UFO reports? Why do say they don't exist?

Thanks a lot.

Aliens are extraterrestrial beings. We all become aliens to the earth after dying and leaving our bodies behind. There will never be a physical alien in our type of realm here on earth because without the physical body, they cannot live in our own realm on earth. Any alien that comes near the earth or to the earth will have to be invisible by default because the kind of realm he is in is different from ours and we will only see them if perchance or by OBE we get into their own realm. What they show to us in films when somebody dies and his spirit is leaving the body is very real. That spirit already becomes an alien to our world and will not be physical to those around. Some spirits roam about on earth for a long time in their own invisible realm, thinking that they are still alive. They depart when they finally realise that they are dead. Science will never accept what it has not scientifically proven to be true by series of experimentations that must yield same or almost same results at all time. That's why it will be very difficult for scientists to agree to their existence. But the good thing about science is that in a far away future, they will invent a device that can see into other realms, same way they designed microscope that can see into the realm of microorganisms. Do you know that we have more than 500 realms on earth here with living beings like us in them? Each realm performs its own activities independent of the others. That's why I don't usually want to talk about aliens too much because they are not to worry about. We go to other realms of earth during Lucid dreamings.

Xioxing:
I want to send you a private message please.

You can only reach me on otem2016@gmail.com. Thanks a lot.

OtemAtum:


Aliens are extraterrestrial beings. We all become aliens to the earth after dying and leaving our bodies behind. There will never be a physical alien in our type of realm here on earth because without the physical body, they cannot live in our own realm on earth. Any alien that comes near the earth or to the earth will have to be invisible by default because the kind of realm he is in is different from ours and we will only see them if perchance or by OBE we get into their own realm. What they show to us in films when somebody dies and his spirit is leaving the body is very real. That spirit already becomes an alien to our world and will not be physical to those around. Some spirits roam about on earth for a long time in their own invisible realm, thinking that they are still alive. They depart when they finally realise that they are dead. Science will never accept what it has not scientifically proven to be true by series of experimentations that must yield same or almost same results at all time. That's why it will be very difficult for scientists to agree to their existence. But the good thing about science is that in a far away future, they will invent a device that can see into other realms, same way they designed microscope that can see into the realm of microorganisms. Do you know that we have more than 500 realms on earth here with living beings like us in them? Each realm performs its own activities independent of the others. That's why I don't usually want to talk about aliens too much because they are not to worry about. We go to other realms of earth during Lucid dreamings.

Wow. Thanks for the insightful response. I really appreciate it.

Some people claim to have seen aliens here on earth.

Could they be making such things up since you said aliens can't/don't exist in a physical body like ours?

Also, you once said you're bringing Seriot back into the modern world.

Why do you want to bring the language back?

gensteejay:

Wow. Thanks for the insightful response. I really appreciate it.

Some people claim to have seen aliens here on earth.

Could they be making such things up since you said aliens can't/don't exist in a physical body like ours?

Also, you once said you're bringing Seriot back into the modern world.

Why do you want to bring the language back?

As I earlier said, human beings can mistakenly get into an altered state of consciousness that can make them see into other earth realms briefly. Just like in OBE where everything looks real, same way it looks real. But the people may not actually know that at one point or the other, their state of consciousness was altered before they saw whatever they claimed they saw. I don't know if it is ever happened to you that you just suddenly jerk yourself as if you were falling asleep earlier. That's what happens sometimes. It occurs like hallucinations but not all hallucination-like events are actually hallucinations.
Concerning bringing the Seriot Language back, I actually take interest in the beauty of it. Also because that's the original form where I got most of the texts from.

OtemAtum:


As I earlier said, human beings can mistakenly get into an altered state of consciousness that can make them see into other earth realms briefly. Just like in OBE where everything looks real, same way it looks real. But the people may not actually know that at one point or the other, their state of consciousness was altered before they saw whatever they claimed they saw. I don't know if it is ever happened to you that you just suddenly jerk yourself as if you were falling asleep earlier. That's what happens sometimes. It occurs like hallucinations but not all hallucination-like events are actually hallucinations.
Concerning bringing the Seriot Language back, I actually take interest in the beauty of it. Also because that's the original form where I got most of the texts from.

Interesting.

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When did Moloch, Enlil, Anu, Siva and Esu prevent you from pursuing science?

PAGAN9JA:
When did Moloch, Enlil, Anu, Siva and Esu prevent you from pursuing science?

It's not as if they prevented people from pursuing science, rather they cause great limitations to rapid scientific development. Imagine how many early scientists were killed in the name of heresies back then. If they had allowed early scientists like Galilei, Rhazes, Copernicus, etc to live to their greatest potentials, we will not be in this level scientifically by now. There was a thread also where scientists were talking about Dinosaurs of millions of years back, many religionists keep screaming false, the world is 6000 years, bla bla bla. If so many are ignorant of carbon dating techniques at this period of time, it shows the level of how scientifically backward the world still is. Let's assume 5 million more Africans become deep into science and begin to do scientific research, what do you think African nations will become in the next ten years? So in order for more people to study nature through science rather than through religious dogmas, then the gods of religion must be caged.

Otem, what is Aquarius Age in your view?

OtemAtum:
It's not as if they prevented people from pursuing science, rather they cause great limitations to rapid scientific development. Imagine how many early scientists were killed in the name of heresies back then. If they had allowed early scientists like Galilei, Rhazes, Copernicus, etc to live to their greatest potentials, we will not be in this level scientifically by now. There was a thread also where scientists were talking about Dinosaurs of millions of years back, many religionists keep screaming false, the world is 6000 years, bla bla bla. If so many are ignorant of carbon dating techniques at this period of time, it shows the level of how scientifically backward the world still is. Let's assume 5 million more Africans become deep into science and begin to do scientific research, what do you think African nations will become in the next ten years? So in other for more people to study nature through science rather than through religious dogmas, then the gods of religion must be caged.

This is what I was just discussing on another thread. Nigerian atheists are just copying western atheists. They don't have independent thinking. They don't understand the difference between Traditional Religion (Animsim) and organized Abrahamic faiths.

There concept of what a religion is and should be id based on a Western outlook which stems from an Abrahamic upbringing and environment.


FYI No Scientist was persecuted or killed as a heretic by the Pagans. The Pagan Greeks Egyptians Indians Chinese and Romans always patronized Science, Mathematics and Astronomy.

Most of the Great scientists such as Archimedes Aristotle Euclid Plato Pythagoras etc., were fervent Pagans.

PAGAN9JA:


This is what I was just discussing on another thread. Nigerian atheists are just copying western atheists. They don't have independent thinking. They don't understand the difference between Traditional Religion (Animsim) and organized Abrahamic faiths.

There concept of what a religion is and should be id based on a Western outlook which stems from an Abrahamic upbringing and environment.


FYI No Scientist was persecuted or killed as a heretic by the Pagans. The Pagan Greeks Egyptians Indians Chinese and Romans always patronized Science, Mathematics and Astronomy.

Most of the Great scientists such as Archimedes Aristotle Euclid Plato Pythagoras etc., were fervent Pagans.

Yes Paganism is better off than Christianity and Islam by miles, but the point is that presently the world is more advanced than to return to any form of religion. People will rather wake to up lose their religions totally rather than going back to things done in the past.

OtemAtum:


Yes Paganism is better off than Christianity and Islam by miles, but the point is that presently the world is more advanced than to return to any form of religion. People will rather wake to up lose their religions totally rather than going back to things done in the past.

See you have to be practical. Your views may be theoretically sound in a utopian world but People especially Africans need religion to deal with their stressful and tumultuous lives where everything is uncertain, where they do not know they will make it back alive when they set out to work in the morning.

Right now the focus needs to be to defeat the common enemy and replace it with a better alternative. The more we delay, the more the Abrahmists gain ground and upset the ecosystem to a point of no return. We are not there yet.

PAGAN9JA:


See you have to be practical. Your views may be theoretically sound in a utopian world but People especially Africans need religion to deal with their stressful and tumultuous lives where everything is uncertain, where they do not know they will make it back alive when they set out to work in the morning.

Right now the focus needs to be to defeat the common enemy and replace it with a better alternative. The more we delay, the more the Abrahmists gain ground and upset the ecosystem to a point of no return. We are not there yet.

We all think we needed religion until some of us step out of it and start seeing that religion is totally irrelevant to our lives. Have you ever stepped out of religion? If not, then try it. You will not regret you did.

OtemAtum:


We all think we needed religion until some of us step out of it and start seeing that religion is totally irrelevant to our lives. Have you ever stepped out of religion? If not, then try it. You will not regret you did.

How can i step out of my religion? To do so would mean I will have to stop attending my native festivals and rituals and throw away my culture in the dustbin. Paganism is a part of our culture and identity.

Why should I step out when its neither harming me nor others around me?

PAGAN9JA:


How can i step out of my religion? To do so would mean I will have to stop attending my native festivals and rituals and throw away my culture in the dustbin. Paganism is a part of our culture and identity.

Why should I step out when its neither harming me nor others around me?

Culture is not the same as religion. Religion is just one aspect of culture and I'm sure you know about the dynamism of culture. Just like expunging the cultural practise of human sacrifices, religion can as well be expunged.

OtemAtum:
Culture is not the same as religion. Religion is just one aspect of culture and I'm sure you know about the dynamism of culture. Just like expunging the cultural practise of human sacrifices, religion can as well be expunged.

See again you are confusing two different things. While christianity is a proselytizing machine, the very reason why tribal religions were never proselytizing or aggressive is because they are inextricably intertwined with the culture of a people. I can give you many examples but it would be endless. From food habits, to festivals, dances, traditional carvings, skills, calculation of months, agriculture, music, etc., everything is bound .

There is no need to expunge a spiritual system if it is harmless. That would be narrow minded as people are spiritual in nature. It keeps horizons open. You cannot force people not to think and not to dream.

Infact islam and christianity are problems solely because they seek to replace one culture with another.

Let us not forget the very reason why we are fighting against religion in the first place.

PAGAN9JA:


See again you are confusing two different things. While christianity is a proselytizing machine, the very reason why tribal religions were never proselytizing or aggressive is because they are inextricably intertwined with the culture of a people. I can give you many examples but it would be endless. From food habits, to festivals, dances, traditional carvings, skills, calculation of months, agriculture, music, etc., everything is binded .

There is no need to expunge a spiritual system if it is harmless. That would be narrow minded as people are spiritual in nature. It keeps horizons open. You cannot force people not to think and not to dream.

Oh, so you think Christianity, Islam, etc hasn't also been intertwined with the culture of some places in the world? Many traditionalists still perform human sacrifices till today as well as decieving the gullibles. Anyway, the reason why I advocate total removal of religion is simply because it doesn't actually connect you to God Almighty, but to one of god or the other.

OtemAtum:


Oh, so you think Christianity, Islam, etc hasn't also been intertwined with the culture of some places in the world? Many traditionalists still perform human sacrifices till today as well as decieving the gullibles. Anyway, the reason why I advocate total removal of religion is simply because it doesn't actually connect you to God Almighty, but to one of god or the other.

God Almighty? You are clearly influenced by abrahamic religion.

We do not recognize any God Almighty or Bruce Almighty. Please keep your doctrine to yourself.


This so-called " God Almighty" is the very reason why there is religious conflict all over the world today. Because each abrahamic religion thinks their version of the "God Almighty" is the true one.

We Pagans recognize all Gods and there is room for more. Everyone cam have their own version. So we can adjust anywhere and can pray anywhere to any deity.


And moreover traditionalists normally don't engage in human sacrifice anywhere around the world. It has been scrapped. We are more organized now and those that do are cultists and do not subscribe to any religion in particular.

Moreover read my last paragraph.

islam and christianity are problems solely because they seek to replace one culture with another. Namely the middle eastern and western cultures.

Take white weddings for example. Or muslims imposing the arabic attire on their host community.

Traditionalists don't do that. It does not make sense because each tribe has its own culture.

We pray in our own tongues. Unlike muslims who have to pray solely in arabic or christians who keep european and jewish fiest names.

PAGAN9JA:


God Almighty? You are clearly influenced by abrahamic religion.

We do not recognize any God Almighty or Bruce Almighty. Please keep your doctrine to yourself.


This so-called " God Almighty" is the very reason why there is religious conflict all over the world today. Because each abrahamic religion thinks their version of the "God Almighty" is the true one.

We Pagans recognize all Gods and there is room for more. Everyone cam have their own version. So we can adjust anywhere and can pray anywhere to any deity.


And moreover traditionalists normally don't engage in human sacrifice anywhere around the world. It has been scrapped. We are more organized now and those that do are cultists and do not subscribe to any religion in particular.

Moreover read my last paragraph.

islam and christianity are problems solely because they seek to replace one culture with another. Namely the middle eastern and western cultures.

Take white weddings for example. Or muslims imposing the arabic attire on their host community.

Traditionalists don't do that. It does not make sense because each tribe has its own culture.

We pray in our own tongues. Unlike muslims who have to pray solely in arabic or christians who keep european and jewish fiest names.

When I say God Almighty, it simply means Totality of Existence. And yes, I do know that there are many gods too, but none of them is solely God Almighty.

gensteejay:
Otem, what is Aquarius Age in your view?

OtemAtum, please answer my question above.

Also, according to the Book of Universal History, what are the other eras in existence apart from the era of word-users and that of brain-users?

Thanks a lot, OtemAtum.

OtemAtum:
When I say God Almighty, it simply means Totality of Existence. And yes, I do know that there are many gods too, but none of them is solely God Almighty.

There is no such thing as a single God Almighty. There is Creation and everything it encompasses.

PAGAN9JA:



There is no such thing as a single God Almighty. There is Creation and everything it encompasses.

When I say God Almighty, I'm talking about the Totality of Existence. I'm not talking of a single being like Jehovah or any religious gods.

PAGAN9JA:



There is no such thing as a single God Almighty. There is Creation and everything it encompasses.

You don't understand where he's driving at solely because you're a deep traditionalist. On my own part only a fool looks up to something to bow to or to embrace as a form of belief, wise people rather explore the universe, the planet they find themselves in, make findings and try to be technologically advanced rather than looking for a deity, a belief system, a form of worship and some stupid, primitive cultural and traditional bla bla bla