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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 3:13pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
LegendHero: TAO is just a moniker in nairaland. Secondly, it was Benin people that described this kingdom to the Portuguese, not Yorubas. To Benin people, East meant East. No scholar can upturn the observations of Portuguese explorers. This is the first time ever, that EAST has been twisted to mean the WEST. Eze Nri Obalike already claimed that IDU was under the Nri influence, without being aware of the whole OGANE episode. Personally, I know that the Nris were not even aware of this Portuguese note, up until about a year ago that I showed it to a high ranking historical personality. I came across that website by accident, and the content confirmed what I have been hearing from our very traditional people, that Eze Nri was always contacted whenever a new Oba or Attah of Igala, was to be crowned. These our elders knew nothing of this Portuguese observation. It's only a few Nri high-ranking personalities that know of this Portuguese recorded evidence, and they are not up to 5 in number. People like Prof. Onwuejeogwu was not aware of this note even. Don't worry, very shortly the real KINGDOM IN THE EAST will make itself known. And there is nothing TAO can do about it. Scholars will soon delve into this stuff, and obliterate all the lies and history-revisionism that ensued, because Nri has kept a low profile. You will also need to come up with a way to obliterate the 4 market days, because it will come in handy, in your trying turn EAST to WEST. 4 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:18pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
LegendHero:No where did he say IFE "maybe" older than Nri bros, all this are just points for argument, but until further archeological findings and carbon datings are carried out, NRI is still more ancient than any other antique culture in Nigeria.....it's just a Google search away 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:22pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
OfoIgbo:NRI influence was far and wide, not militarily but through JuJu knowledge and cultural administration, Anybody that uses the four markets day has been under Nri cultural administration in the past, Even Etinosa agrees 4 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 3:23pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion: The only thing you have is the Ooni of Ife also. I will let you d*ck beat in peace on it |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:23pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Hellraiser77: You are still a joker, oduduwa didn't bring ifa to Ife know your history before you embarrass yourself |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:24pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:This is getting boring Nri in 10th century < Oyo 6th century |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:28pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:what is your obsession with 4 market days? I've spent 30min reading about this ogane(I swear to God)) no mention of Igbo speaking tribe or Nri. Let me burst your bubble historians couldn't pin point the exact kingdom of the this ogane then you with single digit IQ will tell us it Eze Nri gerrahere |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:30pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: You know that is not correct bro, Yoruba use obaship system in almost all of their towns. |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:36pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion:Now they couldn't pinpoint the location? , I thought it was Ketu?.....Ogane remains an NRI king and this excavated Igbo ukwu burial chamber was from his line 4 Likes
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 3:38pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion: Please always stick to your points. You were claiming that it was Lugard that introduced eze to Igboland. I obliterated that assertion by you, by informing you of Eze Nri, Eze Aro e.t.c. You still went on to claim that Igbos only had one royalty i.e the Eze Nri, and Hellraiser77 sodomised your point by showing you a picture of Eze Aro. Now you are telling us that the Aro stool has just been around for 500 years. My question to you is this. Did Lugard teach the Aros the eze tradition 500 years ago? 4 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:38pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion:You are too closed minded to assimilate new and uncomfortable information , IFE is not originally a yoruba settlement, it was Igbos 5 Likes
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:44pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
OfoIgbo:He is not a student of history, He thinks it's about the usual Igbo Yoruba banter, To have this kind of arguement you must be passionate about history 4 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 3:45pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
TAO11: Did Adam Knobler visit Nri or interview Nri priests in the cause of his research? Because if he didn't, then I am sorry to say that his work is half-baked. I am certain he must have visited Ife or Yorubas, who will help him in twisting history, but if he failed to visit Nri, then you may as well throw his work into the garbage bin. I am one million percent, certain that he didn't visit Nri, otherwise the Nri authorities would have been aware of his work. A lot of people will be declared quacks, by the time Nri makes a move to reclaim its heritage, Knobler included How can you make a research of this magnitude, and even failed to identify a possible Kingdom in the east, thinking you can solve the problem by changing EAST to WEST? 4 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:48pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:your pic no support your argument, Ooni was saying igbos were part of the Yorubas at ile Ife then went ahead to create civilization using Yoruba knowledge in the South East, we are your origin, your history is not complete without mention us. |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 3:52pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion: There you go again, making wrong assertions. According to the Nris, Igboland had about 60+ kings, around the time that Europeans visited. The findings in Igbo-ukwu was by accident, and seen in a piece of land that used to belong to Oraeri, an Nri offshoot. Thurstan Shaw verified this fact. Only God knows, what will be found, if a proper archaeological study is carried out in Agukwu and Enugwu-ukwu which are some of the core Nri territories. 5 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:53pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: My assertion still remain, although they was Eze Nri and aro but kingship system is strange in igbo land and even Igbo themselves have adage that says "igbo have no king" and tbh when lord lugard wanted to control the igboland, it seemed an impossible task as igbo don't have the kind of monarch system like Yoruba that unifies them, so he introduced Eze system to make the Eastern part easy to capture. |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:55pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion:Igbos left from IFe yet their Artifacts is older than IFE by 500years , You are just arguing for the sake of argument, your Ooni has affirmed that yorubas are Igbo descendants 3 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:56pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:Sthu ogane is not Nri, read this hope it clear your ignorance, I'm still reading its about ogane https://books.google.com.ng/books?id=bZD-1kObnMQC&pg=PA137&lpg=PA137&dq=who%27s+ogane+in+East+of+Benin&source=bl&ots=zgdspky12X&sig=ACfU3U2mJapTScrZM0Y84LqXPlaeQsSjBw&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiS7Mj27prrAhXJ6aQKHaBACEsQ6AEwEXoECAYQAQ#v=onepage&q=who's%20ogane%20in%20East%20of%20Benin&f=false |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by OfoIgbo: 3:56pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
TAO11: This Knobler you base your assertions on, did he ever travel to Nri to investigate things for himself, or did he just hang around Yoruba scholars who are always very willing to help him start seeing EAST as WEST 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 3:57pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
MinorityOpinion:The IGBO traditional system of government is much too complicated for a simple mind like you to understand, don't even bother 3 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by BabaRamota1980: 3:57pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
OfoIgbo: What evidence exist, beside hearsay, to prove an Eze NRI or Eze Aro beyond the arrival of whitemen? We can tell you from several independent accounts - Borgu, Hausa, Fulani, Dahomey, Songhai, Bini, Europe, that Oyo had a Oba that predated Whiteman. Can you tell us source/s that acknowledged Nri or Aro in 1850 and prior? Ibo accounts or accounts written post 1850 with back dates will not be accepted as proof. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Nobody: 3:58pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Hellraiser77: And the person that carbon dated it said the calculations were wrong |
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