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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 11:35pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
0DDA0: I had it done last year October and my hair was long enough. It got too long and I had to cut it down a little. I used the pin method on my natural hair with no extensions. 10 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Dande55: 11:37pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Danielhouston:Like halting your education for like 6months to 1year. Thank you |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 11:42pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Fatalveli: I don’t know why that is happening. But the Coronavirus has affected the flow of things. They’re not accepting people from certain countries for now. The story about Germany refusing or trying to stop giving visas to Nigerian students is a stupid rumor. A rumor that is perpetuated by Nigerians in Germany who think it is their job to police other Nigerian students and tell them what to do with their lives. Instead of them to mind their business, they attack people for dropping out of school and perpetuate fear in future applicants. Germany is an advanced country that works on principles and laws. Their bureaucracy is set up in a way that nobody can get around it, no matter how sneaky you are. If you meet the student visa requirements, they’ll grant you visa. If you like drop out of school. They already have systems in place to make you suffer and regret your decision. So stopping visas is not their problem. 27 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 11:49pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Dande55: You can do that. It is your choice. But you must pay your semester fees and inform your University, with a valid reason. When you need to extend your residence permit, you have to explain to the visa officer why you’ve not completed your studies in the given time. I did it and had no problems. In my case, I was seeing a therapist. 20 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Dande55: 11:51pm On Aug 13, 2020 |
Danielhouston:Woow! Thanks alot Daniel. God bless you!! 3 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Fatalveli(m): 12:15am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston:Thanks for the explanation. |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by darfay: 12:41am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston: Send another one and lace it with poison this time 10 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Mgbadike80: 2:41am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston: please, how true is the statement below, i copied it from another website There are exceptions to this tuition- free rule, however. If you don’t finish your degree course on time and you study in Bremen, Lower Saxony, Saarland, Saxony, Saxony-Anhalt or Thuringia, you may have to pay tuition fees. |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 5:47am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston:Hmm. Too bad |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Daejoyoung: 7:18am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Mgbadike80:it is true, but what you pay is 500 Euros mostly. Still very cheap compared to UK and Canada. You only pay that if you exceed 8-9 semesters ( about 5 years) on one study program. You also pay that in Saxony Anhalt when you apply for a 2nd Masters degree after completion of your first masters. However in Saxony Anhalt, you can break down the 500 Euros into 90 euros per month. 4 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Odingo1: 8:31am On Aug 14, 2020 |
darfay:Please don’t do this, don’t kill someone because of chocolates. How much is chocolate, forgive and forget. Nigerians working in post office and immigration are fond of eating anything eatable. It is an abomination to poison a food that you know that someone can eat it. 4 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by heisenberg33: 8:33am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston: "Germany is no where near the USA when it comes to racism" This is a misconception and you are completely wrong. Europe (I have visited a few times) is way more racist than America and you even alluded to it in your post through several statements such as: being called the N-word, not having enough blacks in professional positions. I have been living in America for nearly a decade now and have never experienced any iota of racism, not to talk of being called the N-word like you have been called in Europe. Mind you, I have lived in small towns in the Midwest and south: Missouri, Tennessee, Alabama, Georgia, and Texas ,places people erroneously assume racists live. Also, I have always had professional jobs and still have never experienced any iota of racism in the corporate sector. Nobody i know who is black (and I know a lot) has suffered any kind of racism. The misconception that America is irredeemably racist stems from the biased American media whose main goal is to paint America in the most negative light possible both locally and internationally. Do not trust media outlets like CNN, NYT, WAPO, and infact most American media outlet. They have an incentive to report only negative things because negative news bring more ratings and they make money like that. Nigerians watch CNN a lot. I wish they knew that CNN is one of the most biased media outlets in the USA. That is why their ratings is so low here. Most people dont watch them here. But outside the USA everyone thinks they are an example of media excellence. Nothing could be further from the truth. America is truly the land of the free. A place where everyone including blacks and even a Nigerian immigrant like me have rights, unlike what is obtainable in Europe. In America, you can literally achieve anything you want if you are willing to work for it. In America, you can be rich and not be taxed to death like in Europe. Regarding professional jobs in America, you are judged by what you know and not by the color of your skin. You will rise fast in the corporate ladder if you are smart and no one cares about the color of your skin. There are a lot of blacks in high end professional jobs. Heck, we even had a black president, which is the highest job in the land. Wake me up when a country in Europe has one. Is there a perfect country? No. America is not perfect, but neither is any country in Europe. But in my opinion, America is the best country in the world to be if you have the drive and tenacity required to succeed. The issue of racism you hear is exaggerated by the media because that is what they do. Ofcourse this does not mean that there are no racists, but that racism is so insignificant that you will not even see it except you are the kind who looks for racism in everything. Many minorities prefer to focus on finding racism in everything, instead of taking advantage of the opportunities this country offers like no other. If America was as racist as you and many people say, I would not be where I am professionally and neither would many people I know. Also, having lived here close to a decade, it will be hard to miss the realities of racism if they were as egregious as you claim it is. 35 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 8:48am On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston: Nice. I'm guessing crochet method is called pin in Germany. By October this year, they'll be mature and that's when they'll really start adding length. I know you don't want to reveal too much about yourself, but what length are you trimming at, and why? Majorly, good for you. The freedom! I have 3 months starters with finger coils here, and the way some people look at me like they suddenly know my history and lifestyle shocks me. But, idc! Will leave it till it's chest length, and by God's grace, insha'Allah, may the force be with me, by then I'll be out of here! I love my locs! 1 Like |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by willy2000(m): 9:12am On Aug 14, 2020 |
I don't want to derail this thread, but I couldn't help it. heisenberg33:If racism is rife in Europe than America, how many people have been killed in Europe for being black, or according to your logic, is the news media in Europe hiding the truth?
Because you haven't experienced racism doesn't mean it is nonexistent. How many blacks have you met before coming to such a conclusion? Stop it! Well, if CNN is biased, what will you call FOX news ?
America is indeed the land of the free, where a black man is more likely to be killed by a police officer and the officer gets an administrative leave. (shitty Police officers). America is indeed the land of the free, where you can be wealthy today and tomorrow lose it all because you became sick ( shitty health care system). America is indeed the land of the free, where a black man is assumed dangerous until proven otherwise. And ohh lest I forget, the BlackLivesMatter is a movement from Europe, because Europeans are racist scums. 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 9:26am On Aug 14, 2020 |
heisenberg33: You are a joke. We’re both stating our personal opinions, so don’t tell me I’m wrong. It is merely your opinion. So you visited Germany a few times and determined that it is more racist than US? And you also determined that Africans (Black people) don’t have rights in Germany? Or that they cannot achieve their goals? With all of the violence happening against black people in America, even if you say CNN is fake news, don’t we see the videos on Facebook? Was George Floyd, Eric Garner, Breona Taylor, Treyvon Martin and others, killed in Germany? How many black people in Germany have been killed by police or been a victim of a racist attack, compared to USA? Americans are even hanging black men with a noose and murdering BlackLivesMatter protesters. They’re so hateful that they destroy the murals and drive their cars into a crowd of BLM protesters. Do you know how many black Americans are leaving the US and moving to Germany? Do you know how many Americans are giving up their passports to become German citizen because they cannot stand the racism in America? Even by official statistics, USA was deemed one of the most racist countries in the world. There’s also a recent study that determined USA the 2nd most unsafe country to raise a child, after Mexico. Black Americans in Germany would tell you that they feel safer here. You are a Nigerian immigrant in US and you think you know better. And your statement that “Many minorities like to focus on racism in everything instead of focusing on opportunities US has to offer”, is typical of an ignorant African. We were just talking about this in a Facebook group for Black people in Germany. The mentality of a lot of Africans who think Black Americans are always complaining about racism and should get over it. Good luck with that. 35 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Daejoyoung: 9:51am On Aug 14, 2020 |
heisenberg33:Well even if Germany is racist, police harassment and random killing of blacks is not common at all. Gun violence is also very minimal compared to the U.S. Blacks get professional jobs, and the number of blacks I know getting professional jobs was constantly on the rise just before the Corona. Also even during the corona crises, I know of a black guy who has kept his professional job till date in a company where even a number of Germans were sacked due to the corona crisis. Blacks in informatics also can get jobs in places like Berlin and Munich without even knowing the language. While it is true that racism prevents many blacks from getting professional jobs, it is also true that before the early 2000's, there weren't many blacks who came to Germany seeking to study or get professional jobs( skilled blacks in the U.S have come a long way comparatively). These days there are more blacks (qualified for white collar jobs or as students) coming to Germany than before. 7 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by themaestro08(m): 11:17am On Aug 14, 2020 |
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Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by LordAdam16: 11:22am On Aug 14, 2020 |
@heisenberg33, I agree with much of what you said. But you did not have to re-ignite this hot-button topic. Everyone's reality is different. @danielhouston and co; Trust me, there's a firm rebuttal for every point you made. But let it rest. You cannot live in a country where hiring norms follow the set hierarchy of Germans, EU citizens, Rest of the West, Rest of the World and claim the US where that'd make a lot of attorneys obscenely rich is more racist. You've talked about German towns and places that you wouldn't live in due to curious disappearances or in-your-face racism that don't get investigated. Yet call the US more racist when more blacks live in the so-called dreaded Southern US than the so-called progressive North. If you want to talk about violence on blacks, you'd have to go through a wide berth of issues before you land on racism. The combined landmass of Texas and Alaska is larger than all of continental Europe. The US has a drug violence problem. They have a diversity problem. They have a gun problem. They have a gang violence problem. Of course, with these realities, it's unsurprising they have a police brutality complication In 2016, snipers took out 5 cops of 12 shot. During this same BLM protests, at least a dozen law enforcement officers have been shot, some fatally. But you're only going to talk about the protesters blocking a road who were rammed into when exactly the same happened to officers during this protest and not a peep about it. Cities are defunding police departments and crime is skyrocketing to historical levels. That's not racism. In July, several kids were shot dead in one weekend including an 8-year old near a BLM protest site. That's not racism. More blacks have died directly or indirectly due to the BLM protest than from police brutality in the last 3 years. That's not racism. There are more than 800,000 police officers in the US run by their respective cities having hundreds of millions of encounters every year. Yet the media will shine the spotlight on the handful of unfortunate incidents. Why? Because that's how they make money. Because that's how one side of the political divide energizes their base. That's @heisenberg33 point. A German police officer in Berlin will not see as much action in a decade as an NYPD or Chicago PD officer in one month. Racism is racism. There's no point ranking it. It's different everywhere. In Japan, it's from natives acting like you don't exist which some say is worse than being targeted with a slur. You can talk about German racism and highlight how it differs with rest of the industrialized world without making it seem like one is inherently worse. And if one Nigerian immigrant in the US says it's exaggerated due to about a decade of experience, you don't have the standing to call him a joke because you're glued to CNN and Reddit. There are 360 million people in the US. He did not say racism doesn't exist in the US. He said it's blown out of proportion by interests who have a ton to gain from doing so. IMHO, he is correct. So again I implore you to give it a rest. -Lord 26 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Hannania(m): 11:44am On Aug 14, 2020 |
LordAdam16:Well spoken. |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by willy2000(m): 11:51am On Aug 14, 2020 |
LordAdam16:You should have given it a rest without trying to buttress the points from @heisenberg33. That the Op said racism is rife in the US as in Germany is his opinion based on what he chose to believe, you and I have no right to say he is wrong or say it is false, without providing empirical studies to back our claim. @Bolded is no longer true, Germans lay more emphasis on the language, and I as a person see nothing wrong with that. You don't expect a firm to employ someone who has little or no knowledge of the language, and then interact with the locals, how is that possible. Or you think someone who has no English language skills would and should get a job first in the US before an American. We all know bad news sells, so why do you expect a news outlet who are out to make money, to tone down on bad news and lay more emphasis on the good happenings around. Your rebuttals are weak, that the US has its problem, so also does Germany, there is no paradise on earth. So please spare me the sermon on gun violence. The joke is already on @heisenberg33 he just doesn't know it. You do not make blanket statements in certain areas. 4 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 12:52pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
LordAdam16: I wanted to write a long text but after reading @bolded, I decided not to waste my time. Just say you’re anti-BlackLivesMatter and keep it moving. You sound like a racist white man. Adios! 19 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by DAramis: 12:57pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Odingo1:I second this post. Sometimes, forgetting something done to you does not make someone ignorant but just for peace to rein. Chocolate is nothing and cannot be nothing considering the country he is and salary based work which he do. 1 Like |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 1:13pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
And Germany offering jobs to qualified Germans, then EU, before other foreigners, is not racism. It could affect anyone from a country outside the EU, regardless of their race. That law mainly applies to companies that offer jobs to applicants who are outside the EU and those who require work visas to come to Germany. It’s not like they’re hiring only white people. Before a company in Germany would hire someone from outside the EU for a job or Ausbildung, that is primarily when the German-EU rule is applied. The law is also outdated and many companies don’t follow it. It is also for the sake of language barrier in certain workforce. Foreigners in Germany are getting professional jobs everyday. I got my job because I was qualified for it. Germans and EU citizens applied and were rejected. 21 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 1:18pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
DAramis: I will not poison anybody because of chocolate abeg. I think the guy was just joking. Make Nipost chop all the chocolate biko. I will not even use them to send anything again. 13 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by DAramis: 2:57pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston: I understand. And, also, I think, once in a while, you can send something home through Nipost joor People working in that organisation need to chop chocolate and other goodies . You should see it as a way of contributing towards the growth of Nigeria economy whether in form of stomach infrastructure or direct foreign investment Stay safe and enjoy your summer holiday. 3 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by LordAdam16: 3:24pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
willy2000: I don't know... Because that's journalism. It's scary that we have an entire generation of individuals who think click-bait sensationalism is acceptable. Worse is using this same sensationalism to cast a blanket on an entire nation of 360 million people (yet we complain when it's done to Nigerians). Then discount the experiences of individuals who've lived there because it doesn't fit the narrative of the Twitter thread you read. It's not proper. And it'd be a shame if that's what this thread becomes. Racism is racism. It's awful and grim enough that you don't have to sensationalize, exaggerate, embellish, or grade it. Say it as it is, point it out when you can, but be careful not to make racism the hammer for every nail you encounter. Because that's how you'd go from "Hey, let's have a peaceful march against police brutality that led to the death of a man" to "Let's excuse the looting and burning of black-owned businesses and communities because of 'frustration'" to "Let's bail out the looters and not charge the arsonists" to "Let's defund the police department and make everywhere exponentially unsafe while hiring private security for government officials." Years down the line, businesses do not return or don't want to move there, economic activity is virtually nonexistent, you never recover; yet you'd keep voting for the same city politicians who run the supposedly "racist" city police department, who run down the schools your children attend; almost certainly guaranteeing that there'd be a dearth of good jobs and the hood lifestyle and the gang violence persists. Which by the way is the well-oiled factory that produces more George Floyds with a long rap sheet who have a cop called on him for counterfeiting a $20 note. Interestingly, same individuals will convince you every election season that the problem is "systemic racism" and you have it worse than any black person anywhere else in the world. And they alone can fix it. If you ask when? Then you're not black enough. Of course, the media parrots this. They'd be stupid not to. Because as you said, "bad news sells." You watch it on cable news, follow the hashtag, and congratulations, from your couch thousands of miles away, you're now an expert on 'Racism in America'. Even better, you can now rank racism by country. Elated, you proceed to scream in the ears of everyone who cares to listen that racism in the US is simply the worst. Anyone who disagrees is either a bigot, closet racist, internalized racist, ignorant African, or whatever other beautifully-worded label forwarded to you straight from your friends in academia (American universities). Then you have a shocked pikachu face when another cop is involved in an incident with a black person. Oh that must mean racism is alive and well, you say... Or maybe, racism in this instance is a misdiagnosis stemming from exaggeration?! In any case, the cycle repeats with the far from negligible contribution of this fervent but ignoble campaign [on threads like this] to grade racism. Your rebuttals are weak, that the US has its problem, so also does Germany, there is no paradise on earth. So please spare me the sermon on gun violence. That's okay. I'm not trying to impress you. Danielhouston: Thanks for buttressing my point. -Lord 7 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by wizvicbankz: 3:31pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
Danielhouston: @danielhouston please you still haven’t responded to my question about the ausbildung visa . Thanks |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by willy2000(m): 3:49pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
LordAdam16: Look at you, to assert conspiracy is to believe what you want when you are missing data to fully support what you want to believe. So it's now you are "woke" or "forming woke" . It is all over your post, the kind of person you are. This thread is about someone's experience in Berlin/Germany if you don't like how he passes his opinion across, you can as well exit the thread. Thie thread will not degenerate to what you want, because this will be my last reply to you. 8 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 4:26pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
It seems every two weeks... This racism talk must appear, can't you see a quote or mention and walk away. Tufia... 5 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by LordAdam16: 4:29pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
willy2000: The thread is about his experience in Berlin/Germany. His opinion on racism in the US isn't. Granted, it's his right to have a sh*t opinion on racism in the US. However, it's also someone else's right to say his opinion is a "misconception." Especially, when that rebuttal is based on experience living in the US. Now, starting out his response by calling the person a "joke" and concluding by insinuating he is an "ignorant African" is unbecoming. I did not even focus on that. Only implored him to give it a rest as there'd literally be no end to it if they continue and that his arguments are by no means airtight. For my troubles, he said I was sounding like a "racist white man." If this degenerated into a shouting match, it'd be because he wasn't fond of someone else living in the US calling his opinion about racism in the US a misconception. @heisenberg33, let it go. You've made your point. It's on the record. And quite a number of people agree with you. -Lord 10 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Nobody: 4:29pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
wizvicbankz: Someone already did. Anybody can answer anybody’s question here if they have the information. My response does not make it truer or better. 4 Likes |
Re: Being Black In Berlin/germany by Gerrard59(m): 4:38pm On Aug 14, 2020 |
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