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Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Deborah98(f): 5:01pm On Aug 16, 2020
I don't know ooooh but to be sincere eeh am not that regular tithe payer cos of one or two reasons Sha but God willing I pay mine as Soon as I get money do you understand cheesy
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by AdeniyiA(m): 5:14pm On Aug 16, 2020
New King James Version Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 5:16pm On Aug 16, 2020
Deborah98:
I don't know ooooh but to be sincere eeh am not that regular tithe payer cos of one or two reasons Sha but God willing I pay mine as Soon as I get money do you understand cheesy
Jesus Christ said that only those who become like children will enter the kingdom of God. Why do you not know this?

Heaven is not for those who tithe.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 5:17pm On Aug 16, 2020
AdeniyiA:


New King James Version Matthew 23:23 “Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faith. These you ought to have done, without leaving the others undone.
are you a scribe?
Are you a pharisee or Teacher of the law?

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Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by integrity16(m): 5:17pm On Aug 16, 2020
Personally, I don't argue religion, especially tithing. I would suggest everyone should just serve their God based on their own understanding.

If you think tithing is not mandatory, so be it. If you think not, so be it. After all, salvation is personal, everyone would answer for himself at the last day.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by sonofthunder: 5:23pm On Aug 16, 2020
rossovu:
He did not instruct his followers not to pay tithe but He said He came to fulfil the old law, of which tithing was one of them. What does it mean to fulfil something?

Rom.10.4 - For Christ is THE END OF THE LAW for righteousness to EVERYONE WHO BELIEVES.
And what are the rest of this "old law" or is tithing the only old law and Christ could not mention it? Where did Jesus specify that it was the "old law" he was to fulfill?
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by rossovu: 5:37pm On Aug 16, 2020
alBHAGDADI:


Are you daft? You expect the creator to pay tithe? Do you know what it means to be a creator?

Don't be unfortunate!
I'm only asking questions not quarreling with u.
If you can't answer simply ignore.

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Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by redsun(m): 5:39pm On Aug 16, 2020
The only way you can make heaven is if you invest your money wisely so that you don't have to ever be in he position to steal, beg and lickasssess in your transient existence here on earth.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 5:40pm On Aug 16, 2020
alBHAGDADI:

Tithing existed before Judaism, it is the law of God which not one jot will pass away.
Tithingis of the old covenant which God made with the descendants of Jacob. Not for foreigners.

The law exists to this day but it is only defined for descendants of Jacob

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Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by rossovu: 5:43pm On Aug 16, 2020
sonofthunder:

And what are the rest of this "old law" or is tithing the only old law and Christ could not mention it? Where did Jesus specify that it was the "old law" he was to fulfill?

He said so in Matthew 5:17

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by NowisGod109(f): 5:46pm On Aug 16, 2020
Righteousness89:


Tithing is Biblical!
Tithing is God's Commandment!
Tithing is not Salvation. Accepting Jesus Christ is What Gives us Salvation.

Every Part of the Word of God is Relevant to us.
Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

But this is the Truth!

A Believer who Claims to be Saved and Deliberately and Conciously Refuse to obey God in Tithe Matters may be Shocked at that day!

I Advice you to Pay your Tithe! Not paying your Tithe is Robbing God of His Share in what He gave you.

Ignore men or whoever at their talks! Obey God and His Word..

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is Sin

It's a Similar stuff to the Republicans and Democrats in the United States..

You Cannot Claim to Be a Christian or a Believer and Endorse or Support a Party that is against God, against God's Word and Principles and you say u are going to Heaven?

The Democrats of today are totally Anti-God. Yet u see so called Believers Supporting them..

Rapture will Shock people!!


Is it by just saying ' I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior' that will make us to see even or by following other rules such as His commandments, being baptized by immersion and Holy spirit?
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 5:48pm On Aug 16, 2020
sonofthunder:

And what are the rest of this "old law" or is tithing the only old law and Christ could not mention it? Where did Jesus specify that it was the "old law" he was to fulfill?
you can find details of the old covenant, which is still in existence to this day, by reading from Exodus 17 through to Deuteronomy 30.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Deborah98(f): 5:48pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
Jesus Christ said that only those who become like children will enter the kingdom of God. Why do you not know this?

Heaven is not for those who tithe.
I know it oga, thanks for the reminder
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 5:49pm On Aug 16, 2020
NowisGod109:


Is it by just saying ' I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior' that will make us to see even or by following other rules such as His commandments, being baptized by immersion and Holy spirit?
obedience is acceptance of course!
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Nobody: 5:53pm On Aug 16, 2020
Alexgman1:
Can someone who rarely pay tithe because of one of two reasons or doesn't pay tithe at all through out his life make heaven if he/she dies or when rapture takes place?

Let the men of GOD in the house clear the air on this.

I believe that your question is sincere. Let's see one instance. The thief on the cross. He was promised by Our Lord Himself that that same day, he, the thief, would be with Him in paradise. All because of his belief that Jesus was the true Messiah.

Anything else added to the work of Salvation is classed as works and you become responsible for completing your salvation.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by fetrillion(m): 5:56pm On Aug 16, 2020
alBHAGDADI:

@OP

Tithing is not what gets you to heaven, BELIEVE in Jesus Christ is what guarantees you heaven.

But does that mean tithing is not compulsory? No. Tithing is the law of God which must be obeyed. It comes with a blessing for obeying and a curse for disobeying, same thing with other laws of God.

For example, God said we shouldn't steal. If you obey, which leaves you to within your means, God will bless the little you have such that you won't need to steal. If you don't obey, guess what? If you are caught stealing, you will be disgraced. What if you get sent to prison for 20 years for that?

Do you know how many people don't even know what Instagram, Facebook and Twitter is? They don't know what an Android phone is. Why? Because they have been in prison for more than 20 years and deprived of many things. So, if you don't steal, you don't suffer such.

What I find funny is how stubborn people feel tithing is no more the law of God because it's in the old testament. Okay, God also told us in the old testament that we shouldn't have sex with our mothers father, sister, aunty or close kin in general. The those stubborn people to go and do that since that law is in the old testament.

Dear OP, the way to make heaven is not by tithing. Tithing only helps you here on Earth but also in heaven where you get rewarded for obeying God's commandment. But it plays not part in getting you into heaven. How do you make heaven?

You make heaven by simply believing that Jesus Christ paid for your sins, including the one of not paying tithe. Once you do that, he gives you eternal life and you will never perish according to John 3:16. With that heaven is certain for you and nothing can make you lose it. You already have eternal life which can't be taken from you otherwise it will mean it was never an eternal life God gave you.

But can God punish you for disobedience like not paying your tithe. But will he throw you in hell because of that? No. Why? You are his child which you became the moment you believed in his Son Jesus Christ.

John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

As a parent, you can never burn you child with fire for disobedience. Why should you now think our Heavenly Father will do the same to his children.

Mathew 7:11 KJV
If ye then, being evil, know how to give good gifts unto your children, how much more shall your Father which is in heaven give good things to them that ask him?

Accept Jesus Christ today and you will never miss heaven.
HERESY from the pit of hell
Grace to you @ righteousness ..he has said it all.I pray the lord opens the eyes of everyone here.Tithing can lead you to hell.If truly you are a child of God then "Keep his commandments".
God is a merciful God and also a consuming fire.
More grace to you " Righteousness" ..
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by sonofthunder: 6:17pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
you can find details of the old covenant, which is still in existence to this day, by reading from Exodus 17 through to Deuteronomy 30.
You stylishly sidestepped my questions.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by sonofthunder: 6:19pm On Aug 16, 2020
rossovu:


He said so in Matthew 5:17

“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.
And the first question?
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by sonofthunder: 6:22pm On Aug 16, 2020
Deborah98:
I don't know ooooh but to be sincere eeh am not that regular tithe payer cos of one or two reasons Sha but God willing I pay mine as Soon as I get money do you understand cheesy

shocked
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by ykayexcel1: 6:23pm On Aug 16, 2020
fetrillion:

HERESY from the pit of hell
Grace to you @ righteousness ..he has said it all.I pray the lord opens the eyes of everyone here.Tithing can lead you to hell.If truly you are a child of God then "Keep his commandments".
God is a merciful God and also a consuming fire.
More grace to you " Righteousness" ..

Tithing can't lead anyone to hell. If tithing can lead people to hell. Are you telling me that Paul the Apostle and other apostles are in hell.

Christ never collect tithe. Why are pastors collecting tithe?

This Covid 19 made me realised my Pastor is worst than yahoo boys. They are all scammers. I regretted paying tithe due to ignorance.

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Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by AdeniyiA(m): 6:27pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
are you a scribe?
Are you a pharisee or Teacher of the law?
Are you an example of those who quote one part of the Bible and overlook the rest? Jesus also mentioned Hypocrites

The point in the Bible text is, mercy, love, justice and godliness are lacking in the world despite proliferation of religious centres but unfortunately the leaders lay more emphasis on less important thing as tithe. I believe tithing should come from a heart filled with Godly characters, and as Christ never forces anyone to do his will
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Nobody: 6:30pm On Aug 16, 2020
Righteousness89:


Tithing is Biblical!
Tithing is God's Commandment!
Tithing is not Salvation. Accepting Jesus Christ is What Gives us Salvation.

Every Part of the Word of God is Relevant to us.
Matthew 5:17-18
17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

But this is the Truth!

A Believer who Claims to be Saved and Deliberately and Conciously Refuse to obey God in Tithe Matters may be Shocked at that day!

I Advice you to Pay your Tithe! Not paying your Tithe is Robbing God of His Share in what He gave you.

Ignore men or whoever at their talks! Obey God and His Word..

James 4:17
Therefore to him that knoweth to do good, and doeth it not, to him it is Sin

It's a Similar stuff to the Republicans and Democrats in the United States..

You Cannot Claim to Be a Christian or a Believer and Endorse or Support a Party that is against God, against God's Word and Principles and you say u are going to Heaven?

The Democrats of today are totally Anti-God. Yet u see so called Believers Supporting them..

Rapture will Shock people!!


This is really confusing. In one sentence, you write, Tithing is not Salvation. Accepting Jesus Christ is What Gives us Salvation.

In the very next, you again write, A Believer who Claims to be Saved and Deliberately and Conciously Refuse to obey God in Tithe Matters may be Shocked at that day!

A thing cannot be pure white AND pure black at the same time. The OP simply asked, will someone make heaven if he doesn't pay tithe?

Short answer, YES, for the God who created the world out of nothing, does not need your money.

Long answer, YES, you will make heaven as the only criteria is to believe in the One sent as a substitute for us and Whose shed blood is now accepted and forever covers us from the wrath of a Holy God.

You add anything to the finished work of God, Christ Jesus, you become a Pharisee that instant and must work out your own salvation by yourself. From beginning to end, you must be spotless, not just of deed, but of your thoughts and intentions as well. Let us see the 2nd jesus that can claim this.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:47pm On Aug 16, 2020
alBHAGDADI:


Are you daft? You expect the creator to pay tithe? Do you know what it means to be a creator?
We live as Jesus Christ lived..it is His example that His followers follow after all our ultimate goal is to become like Jesus Christ.
So since He did not tithe and He never commanded it of us, it makes absolutely good sense not to.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by rossovu: 6:50pm On Aug 16, 2020
sonofthunder:

And the first question?
The old laws are in the old testament, which has already been fulfilled and no longer binding.
Christians are the followers of Christ, and thus not under the old law but should live the Christlike life.

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Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by rossovu: 6:51pm On Aug 16, 2020
Kobojunkie:
We live as Jesus Christ lived..it is His example that His followers follow after all our ultimate goal is to become like Jesus Christ.
So since He did not tithe and He never commanded it of us, it makes absolutely good sense not to.

Thank you for this sir
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:51pm On Aug 16, 2020
AdeniyiA:

Are you an example of those who quote one part of the Bible and overlook the rest? Jesus also mentioned Hypocrites

The point in the Bible text is, mercy, love, justice and godliness are lacking in the world despite proliferation of religious centres but unfortunately the leaders lay more emphasis on less important thing as tithe. I believe tithing should come from a heart filled with Godly characters, and as Christ never forces anyone to do his will

Be careful not to add or remove from what God commanded. In the verse in question, Jesus Christ explicitly condemns the scribes, not the people, in their chosen approach to carrying out their tithing.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:54pm On Aug 16, 2020
sonofthunder:

You stylishly sidestepped my questions.
my mistake! The only law that was in existence during the time of Jesus Christ was the old covenant, the only law that required fulfillment of
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 6:57pm On Aug 16, 2020
ykayexcel1:


Tithing can't lead anyone to hell. If tithing can lead people to hell. Are you telling me that Paul the Apostle and other apostles are in hell.

Christ never collect tithe. Why are pastors collecting tithe?

This Covid 19 made me realised my Pastor is worst than yahoo boys. They are all scammers. I regretted paying tithe due to ignorance.

Tithing will lead one to hell if one is not a descendant of Jacob and pretends that he does it in the name of God. That is disobedience.

Essentially it is better not to do it at all. Since It is not commanded of us.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by diridiri(m): 7:16pm On Aug 16, 2020
hopefulLandlord:
Adeboye is a man of God, he drove a car from Ore to Lagos on empty tank and he said if you don't pay your tithes you won't make heaven. what more reason do you need to keep donating your 10% to churches?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpCgpR6dETY

scammers eh...
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by diridiri(m): 7:29pm On Aug 16, 2020
Skyonebaba:
TITHE IS A HEAVENLY LAW , NOT PAYING TITHE IS STEALING FROM GOD BUT TITHE ONLY CAN'T TAKE YOU TO HEAVEN , BEING HOLY AND SPREADING LOVE WILL ......
TITHE ASIDE ARE YOU AWARE THAT NOT PAYING TAX AND DOING OTHER CITIZEN RESPONSIBILITIES CAN TAKE ONE TO HELL !

How is not paying tithes stealing from God? Is God attached to pastor's bank account?
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by biggy26: 7:30pm On Aug 16, 2020
alBHAGDADI:


Below are a few verses showing that we will be rewarded for our righteous acts when we get to heaven.

Mathew 19:29
And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.

Revelations 22:11-12
11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.
12 And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
Rewards are sure, the issue here is tithing. Tithing isn't a righteous act. If you wanna tithe fine, but don't make it a doctrine.
Re: Can A Non-tither Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 7:41pm On Aug 16, 2020
biggy26:

Rewards are sure, the issue here is tithing. Tithing isn't a righteous act. If you wanna tithe fine, but don't make it a doctrine.
Precisely the problem.

The new Covenant does not include tithing but definitely calls for righteousness which is the only way int Heaven.

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