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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 9:52am On Aug 18, 2020 |
[s] TAO11:[/s]Tao my most loyal beach!! Rambling from now till eternity is useless, I now own you ![]() ![]() ![]() Below is a clip of Ooni the greatest Yoruba monarch admitting Igbos were the first race of human beings to exist ![]() ![]() Time stamp 3:17 ![]() ![]() [url]https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU[/url] Legendhero MinorityOpinion tao1 |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by SaintBeehot(m): 10:13am On Aug 18, 2020 |
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 10:20am On Aug 18, 2020 |
SaintBeehot:The only depressed person here is Tao11 and his sorry ugly ass He has ran to hide like a scared little dog ![]() ![]() Tao11 come and lie you way out of what your Ooni said in Timestamp 3:17 of this video clip ![]() ![]() https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU 2 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 10:28am On Aug 18, 2020 |
Below is the Oonis report of how ancient Igbos first settled Ile ife, This report is also collaborated by professor Ade Obayemi ![]() ![]() The Ooni of Ife, Adeyeye Enitan Ogunwusi recently opened a longstanding debate about the relationship between the Igbo and the Yoruba, and did affirm that the Igbo were ancient inhabitants of Ife. The Ooni’s asserts that the ancient Igbo connections to Ife is still evident in the traditions preserved in the oral narratives of Ife itself, and in the extant lineages of the Igbo still present in their habitations inside the Ooni’s palace. The Igbo quarters are still present in Ife. What the Ooni brings to this debate is legitimacy, because Yoruba tradition confers the authority of national memory on the office of the Ooni. The Ooni in a sense validates the accounts of the eminent Nigerian historian and anthropologist, the late Professor Ade Obayemi. Obayemi accounts for a first pavement of culture in what is now known as the cradle of Yoruba origin, but which was once originally settled by the Igbo led by Obatala. This is not a new argument, and the Olugbo of Ugbo’s disputes with the Ooni about an ancient Igbo habitation and displacement is either ignorant or mischievous. The Igbo were the original inhabitants of Ife and had installed, and practiced a culture based on their ancient Odinala religion of peace, of the divine rights of the individual and not of kings, of the protection and validation of the weak and infirm, of an artistic and creative value rather than of war and destruction. All these values are embodied in the myth of Obatala the sculptor and creative “demiurge” of current Yoruba mythology. And of course of he also models the value of the Republic over the monarchy. The Igbo had been marked by the multiplicity of their settlements in Ile-Ife which the Igbo know by its more ancient name as “Igbo-Omoku.” As a matter of fact, Obatala was a High Priest in the mold of the Igbo priesthood, like the EzeNri, and aspects of this priestly function was absorbed by the Ooni who equally then also absorbed the monarchical order that replaced the Igbo republican order of the Obatala era. The current Ile-Ife is therefore a hybrid system between the displaced Igbo culture and the settler order that replaced it. The war over Ife between the Igbo and the new wave of migrants to Ife was over two different ways of life: the freedom associated with the Republic or the order and control associated the monarchy. Obatala’s group was defeated, and was driven into exile, and scattered into places including as far as Ketu, and places as far as what we call Dahomey and Togo today. The republic disappeared and the monarchy as embodied by Oduduwa replaced it. The rivalry between the Igbo and the Yoruba continue to mirror this. The wars the Igbo levied consistently against the new settlers is preserved and enacted even today in the Yoruba Egungun festivals, the Oreluere, the Obameri, the Moremi and the Edi festivals. The eminent modernist playwright, Femi Osofisan, gives a new sheen to it in his play, Morountodun, based on the Moremi myth. The Egungun festival is preserved as the Yoruba Festival of liberation from the marauding and masked Igbo “Egwugwu warriors.” The Obatala festival celebrates the canonization of the era of peace as embodied by Obatala and the Igbo, at a time of national regret, years later, when the Yoruba began to rue the tyranny of Kings in their new order, and regret the loss of the period of peace and creativity of the old order represented by the Igbo. They turned and memorialized the leader of the Igbo, Obatala, into a god, and the period of Igbo culture as the highest moment of creative fluorescence in the Yoruba world. The Ifa preserves this for us. And to this day, the Yoruba inhabit two souls: there is the fiercely republican Yoruba, many of whom find close affinity with the Igbo, and there is the Yoruba monarchist, who fiercely defends the settled order of kings. But that is as far as the Ooni’s knowledge of the Igbo situation in Ife goes. There is an alternative narrative tradition that says the Igbo themselves in their wave of migration following Amadioha’s destruction of the ancient world met an even older settlement in Ife of people whom they absorbed and protected and introduced to a settled and peaceful way of existence. What this story points to us is that human migration – settlements and resettlements have remained a constant in man’s development and search for security. That is why the evolving story of the Fulani herdsmen today is interesting and complex. The Ooni suggests that the Igbo moved from Ile-Ife to their current settlements in Igbo land. That is not true. In fact archeological evidence proves that a place like Igbo-Ukwu is a much older settlement than Ife. So in fact, in current Igbo historiography, and assessment of their movements, Ife is a newer settlement of the Igbo, and may have been part of a wave of migration leading to a pavement of Igbo history following an ancient catastrophe. There are many hypothesis of these settlements, and there is no doubt that the Yoruba and the Igbo are close and related. The language and the cultural patterns suggest points of very recent contacts and break-offs. The Idu – the Benin – is the medial culture between the Igbo and the Yoruba. Indeed, the Benin suggest that Izoduwa was Oduduwa, and they know precisely when he left Ani-Idu (Benin City). So, who indeed are these people? There is the Nok hypothesis which suggests a coagulation that broke off at the Niger-Benue valley, with the Jukun, the Igbo, the Yoruba and the Igala, and possibly the Idu, moving apart into their current settlements. There is the Igbo-Nupe-Yoruba hypothesis of a movement from Egypt, through the crags of Air, that settled in their current locations. Indeed, two studies published by the English colonial anthropologist, M.D.W. Jeffreys, “The Winged Solar Disk, or the Ibo Itchi Scarification Marks” (1951), and “A Triad of gods in Africa,” (1972) explore and affirm these links, and the possible Egyptian origin of the Igbo, and their worship of the Sun god. The Igbo still call their first-born sons, “Opa- RA” (priest of the Sun-God, RA). MDW Jeffreys identifies in the symbols of the “Ichi” scarifications carved into the forehead and cheeks of the Igbo titled aristocracy, Ndi Nze, the “sun, moon and the wings and tail of the hawk” and the ram-headed symbol of the “Ikenga,” as associated with ancient Egypt, particularly the winged solar disk symbol of Pharaoh Usertsen III. The problem is that Jeffrey thought the circulation of the symbols were from Usertsen’s conquest of Nubia and the lands of the Meroetic ridge, and may thus have been, rather than of Igbo origin, of a specific Egyptian colonial origin. MDW Jeffrey writes that the resemblance of the Egyptian symbols has an amazingly close resemblance with the Nri-Igbo symbol, and raises the question of who may have borrowed from the other, and concludes that there is no evidence in Igbo of an independent invention of the symbol. This is profoundly inaccurate, of course, because of Jeffery’s project of attempting to sustain an idea of Egyptian cultural priority, or hegemony, and possibly maintain the fiction of a lack of cultural agency in Sub-Sahara Africa until it was brought from outside, a fiction that has long now been put to rest by works done by the likes of Cheik Anta Diop. There is no doubt that the Egyptian symbols may have Igbo origins. The Igbo stories claim that the Igbo once ruled the world and destroyed it. They may have founded Egypt. The Igbo consider Igbo land, “Ala-Nso” and established the code of Eje-Alo. They are great travelers, but they always return, following the path of the Sun. Even the Egyptian priests, guardians of the Kemetic gnosis affirmed in their teachings to Solon, the culture patriarch of the Athenians, that they had preserved in their temples, nine thousands years to the day Solon asked the question, the ancient knowledge of a people by the great Atlantic who had been destroyed in their quest to conquer the known world. The Igbo themselves have the story of Kamalu, who took the impudent title “Amadioha” – and who destroyed the ancient world, and was himself blown to smithereens as he and his scientists experimented with “orisha-Akalum” or the “ore of the heavens,” or “Igwe” in his bid to create a powerful, all-conquering weapon of war. Amadioha’s recklessness remains a cautionary tale among the Igbo to this day, and you often hear the Igbo say, “onye emena ihe Ike” (let no one mess with energy), or “Anyi maara dowe ike” (We know the secret laws of energy, we just sealed it that no one should use it). That ancient secret was unraveled by Einstein, and thus the Atomic bomb. Following Amadioha’s heresy, the Igbo abrogated the making of kings, forbade human sacrifice, and established a religion of peace. They dispersed in great numbers from their ancient habitations by the Atlantic in search of new habitations. Obatala and his group settled in Ife. And the story of these great Igbo settlements traverse the world. There are five sub-nations of the Igbo: the Agbaja, the Oru, the Isu, the Nri, and the Idu. That is why they say, “Isee!” or “Ihi aa!” at the end of the kolanut ritual that commemorates this filial unity, and its invocation of peace, and its summoning of the ancestral spirit. The Idu, who call themselves Benin today, are part of the larger Igbo, and are possibly the bridge with the Yoruba. The value of Ooni Enitan’s assertion is the necessity for strategic collaboration between these groups who must understand that the Igbo, Yoruba, Igala, Nupe, Jukun, and so many of the cultures in the West and Central West Africa have so much more in common, and must work together for their own security and prosperity. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vanguardngr.com/2019/08/ooni-of-ife-and-the-igbo-yoruba-relationship/amp/ cc Tao11 legendhero sammy07 MinorityOpinion 3 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by gwafaeziokwu: 11:33am On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77: ![]() ![]() I thought you have sheated your sword. You don't need to commit murder nwanne. This back to back gunshots is fatal. Spice it with little mercy. |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by gwafaeziokwu: 11:36am On Aug 18, 2020 |
SaintBeehot: ![]() The oldest human race in the world is the Igbo race - Ooni of Ife We even gave you a mystic priest Obatala whom you worship as a god. 2 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 11:42am On Aug 18, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu:I enjoy riding this people like bicycle ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by gwafaeziokwu: 11:52am On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77: Every time they will be wondering why Igbo man appears confident and bold in all his dealings. They don't know their fathers. Who should we actually be afraid of? We were here before they all came. Some are even our off springs. Can a child be older than his father? Their Ooni couldn't help but say it as it is. 3 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 12:35pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu:The truth remains that Yoruba people and it's culture are very very young and may have fully evolved just around the 12th century. Whereas Igbos as a people and their language in particular has been proven to be atleast 6000years old ![]() ![]() According to Hartle D.D.. Archaeology in Eastern Nigeria. In: Nigeria Magazine, No. 93, June 1967 "Archeology indicates that the Igbo were in occupation of parts of modern day south-eastern Nigeria by 2000 – 3000 BC.” This is a clear indication that Igbos preceded Yoruba by more than three thousand years as anthropology has proven, Nothing in Igbo culture reflects anything Yoruba wheres major aspects of Yoruba culture, deities etc bear the marks of Igbo origin. ![]() Again yoruba today suggests that Ife means a place of dispersion but this just a connotative meaning put on it by yoruba ![]() ![]() LegendHero MinorityOpinion tao11 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by gwafaeziokwu: 1:18pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77: Word! 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by SaintBeehot(m): 1:30pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu: ![]() So says a man whose tribe started wearing clothes two decades ago. 2 Likes
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by gwafaeziokwu: 4:09pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
SaintBeehot: ![]() Small children everywhere. Igbos started making their own fabric in the 14th century. The two step wrapper worn in this present time by all Nigerian women is a living legacy of Igbo ingenuity in fashion. It all started at Akwete. Go and find your play mate kiddo. 3 Likes
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by googi: 7:17pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11, I can understand why you went toe to toe with their lack of facts but insults. It is hard to believe that the Ooni of Ife in trying to make peace between Yoruba and Igbo, went as far as telling them they are decendants from his Palace. Many Igbo rejected it as being subordinates of Yoruba while others were glad to take it, run and interpret it the way they want. Igbo have always wanted to be Yoruba and Ooni gave them a subordinate role. It should have been the end of discussion and no arguments or insults. Nnamdi Azikiwe claimed Bini as extension of Yoruba and named his son Ayodele. The computer scientist Philip Emeagwali claimed to be an extension of Yoruba from Akure. The Igbo from Delta State still speak Yoruba. Yoruba outside Nigeria want to relate to Yoruba, so are Nigerians! TAO11: 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Etinosa1234: 7:34pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
googi: Is that why u want to cry.... Some Yoruba people in the East also know how to speak Igbo Instead make u just talk say Because Azikiwe give him pikin Yoruba name, Igbo is under Yoruba... but u dey use Benin cover up....U nor want make Igbo pple finish u the way dem finish Tao...ozuo Counter what they said...nor dey give motivational speech ![]() Hellraiser77 2 Likes
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 9:00pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Etinosa1234:Hahaha! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() He was flogged to death and, as he was dying, had to call on the Igbo-mods for help — asking them to ban me for one year. ![]() (a) He said I should be banned because I have violated Rule 2 grossly. ![]() ![]() (b) And when I checked what the Rule 2 says, I found the following: “Don't abuse, bully, deliberately insult/provoke, fight, or wish harm to Nairaland members OR THEIR TRIBES”. ![]() In other words, he himself testified before the Nairaland community that, my bully (and insult) against him and the Igbo race really shattered his existence. ![]() ![]() So, my question to you is: Why do you not want to agree with the Nri villager’s own testimony?? ![]() I hate to flog snow-flakes who cry fowl to mods for help (before running away) whenever their nation has been grossly violated (using his own words). ![]() . . . Having said that, enjoy the video clip embedded below. Focus on time-stamp 48:22 — 48:38 and share out what you learn from it with everyone here. Good luck! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQY_Jd--pwI cc: googi, LegendHero, MinorityOpinion, BabaRamota1980 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by googi: 9:24pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Look here. Find your level, Okay Etinosa1234: 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by gregyboy(m): 9:46pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11: Here i come in babe That qoute was a report statement, told by another author, in the original roupell books there was never a mention of ife or Oronmiyan , he only mentioned eweka, benin before the creation of nigeria had always know their first monarch was eweka who was birthed by an ogiso , untill dey began to edit it, after the creation of nigeria to suit political favours from a major tribe like yoruba What the author simply did there was fill in words Of contemporary benin history which included the mythical ife myth of benin In Roupell's quotes and works, which made it altered by so doing Ife, oromiyan started entering into benin history after the creation of nigeria before then, ife, oromiyan crap was non in existence in benin history Babe stop posing our oba as Yoruba he is not, so drop it Am still yet to finish your book i know i will find loopholes when i do If you have to reply this comment come with the pdf of Roupell's original work, copy and paste not quotation from other authors who may have altered his works 2 Likes |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 9:49pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
gregyboy:Little naked Edo slave of the Yoruba, can you not bother me with incoherent junks?? ![]() You have been cancelled since last year as the most ignorant but most emotional of all my Edo slaves on Nairaland. ![]() Roupell did not write a book, you ignorant slave. ![]() Give the phone to your parents and let me engage them instead, they should at least know a thing or two. ![]() Oya, before I open my eyes alele go and play with sand. ![]() PS: The last paragraph of the 1903 attachment below shows the quotation of Roupell’s 1897 Officials collected from the Benin palace. (I pray you know what quotation means). cc: LegendHero 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 10:47pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
gwafaeziokwu:Stoooooooooooop!!! Dada Nwakata — the first Igbo to make clothes — was born in the 1800s. You all must stop lying! Lying to “protect” your history doesn’t help in anyway. Instead, it does two types of damages, namely: (1)kill your self-esteem because you yourself know you’re lying, and (2)kills your history because lies don’t last and people will soon find out as they just did now. cc: SaintBeehot 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 10:56pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
googi:Who this? ![]() Abobaku!! If you don't geddifok out of here with your slippers in hand. You must be one of the Abobaku sons I forced to unfollow the thread now hiding behind a new moniker to return and motivate Tao11 ![]() ![]() Judging from Your emotional, defeatist unintelligent post I'd say MinorityOpinion hahaha ![]() Nigga sorry I made you get a new moniker ![]() Again below is the video clip of the greatest king of the Yoruba race(according to you guys) Ooni of ife Affirming Igbos as the earliest race of humans ![]() Timestamp 3:13 you can't miss it ![]() https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://m.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3DUZ8BA4l9oK0&ved=2ahUKEwj_k8_8paTrAhX6RhUIHdKtBMwQwqsBMBF6BAgIEBI&usg=AOvVaw2gfqF3C_KypxV2QZLp3-iU Tao11 remains my most day one beach!!! ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 11:01pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11:Tao my day-one beach!! All your praise singers have forsaken you at this point ![]() You don fall their hands kpata kpata!! ![]() ![]() ![]() Bros na you Bleep up I'm sorry you had to go through all this ![]() ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:03pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:(1) Will you call on the mods for help again (before running away) in case I begin to suffocate you with torture like I did last night?? ![]() (2) Or will you begin to mime WilliamShakespeare again after receiving life-threatening torture like you did the penultimate night?? ![]() ![]() (3) Or will it be a different strategy for this night?? You‘re obviously a coward snowflake who obviously cannot stand too much flogging. Please present a stronger Igbo person who doesn’t cry to the mods after been flogged by the Yorubas! . . . Lastly, how many times will you lie about the Ooni’s statement when the video clearly has him saying that the Igbos are descended from the Yoruba people of Ife. |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:06pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:(1) Will you call on the mods for help again (before running away) in case I begin to suffocate you with torture like I did last night?? ![]() (2) Or will you begin to mime WilliamShakespeare again after receiving life-threatening torture like you did the penultimate night?? ![]() ![]() (3) Or will it be a different strategy for this night?? You‘re obviously a coward snowflake who obviously cannot stand too much flogging. Pleaser present a stronger Igbo person who doesn’t cry to the mods! |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:07pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
I can’t believe you begged the mods to ban me for one year stating that I have violated the Igbo race grossly. ![]() ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 11:09pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11:Tao11 my most loyal beach!! What do to you have to entertain me tonight? Maybe we should exchange a little bout of insult as pre-intimacy to spice things up? ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:10pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:I can’t believe you begged the mods to ban me for one year stating that I have violated the Igbo race grossly. Why did you do that?? ![]() ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 11:10pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11:Tao11 my yoruba freaky freaky(I hope you don't stink like most yoruba Though) ![]() 1 Like |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:11pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:I can’t believe you begged the mods to ban me for one year stating that I have violated the Igbo race grossly. Why did you do that?? Say something! ![]() ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 11:12pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11:I could have reported your fat black ass direct to a supermod then I thought who will be my yoruba freaky freaky on this thread, others have tear race I then changed my mind to preserve Tao my freaky freaky beach!! ![]() ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:15pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:But you did tag three (3) Igbo mods to ban me. Didn’t you?? ![]() And you stated that your reason was because I was bullying and violating the Igbo race. Didn’t you?? ![]() Say something! ![]() ![]() |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by Hellraiser77: 11:15pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
TAO11:Tao11 please tell me why you chose a female moniker, where you a freak beach to someone before we met? I'm a jealous Master |
Re: How To Unveil And Promote Ancient Igbo Civilisation by TAO11(f): 11:16pm On Aug 18, 2020 |
Hellraiser77:I flogged you so badly that I must be a man. ![]() ![]() But you did tag three (3) Igbo mods to ban me for a year. Didn’t you?? ![]() And you stated that your reason was that I was bullying and violating the Igbo race. Didn’t you?? ![]() Say something! ![]() ![]() |
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