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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:22pm On Aug 19, 2020
Nezzjnr:

We should get Young... Sanchez and Herrera back since they're both in the Finals

It'll bring about development to the team

Ole was stupid to have sold them.... I still don't know why Greenwood replaced Sanchez

Has Greenwood ever been to the Finals??

The Coach needs to go





cheesy


LOL. The kind shortsighted talk person dey read for here.

Aguero, Christiano Ronaldo, Messi and Aubameyang are not in the final but Maxim Choupo-Moting is in the final. He must be better than them and Barca should swap Messi for Sarabia who is also in the final. grin

What a higi haga.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by segunzik(m): 12:32pm On Aug 19, 2020
I dey very impressed with Herrera, he seems rejuvenated.

We need new attackers more than anything. This one that the Sancho deal just dey get kleg. We need better attackers on our flanks. Greenwood James and rashford will not cut it for us at the wings.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:33pm On Aug 19, 2020
Nezzjnr:

We should get Young... Sanchez and Herrera back since they're both in the Finals

It'll bring about development to the team

Ole was stupid to have sold them.... I still don't know why Greenwood replaced Sanchez

Has Greenwood ever been to the Finals??

The Coach needs to go





cheesy
Bless up brother... some comments for here they weak me, how people fail to be rational I can't understand. Well, I already told them to get ready to sack Ole from this thread.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 12:34pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:



LOL. The kind shortsighted talk person dey read for here.

Aguero, Christiano Ronaldo, Messi and Aubameyang are not in the final but Maxim Choupo-Moting is in the final. He must be better than them and Barca should swap Messi for Sarabia who is also in the final. grin

What a higi haga.
We really don't know what we want

If Jones was in the psg team...Ole would have been lambasted for selling him to psg cheesy

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 12:37pm On Aug 19, 2020
handelex:
Bless up brother... some comments for here they weak me, how people fail to be rational I can't understand. Well, I already told them to get ready to sack Ole from this thread.
cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I was expecting this after that yesterday match
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:38pm On Aug 19, 2020
Nezzjnr:

We really don't know what we want

If Jones was in the psg team...Ole would have been lambasted for selling him to psg cheesy


It is what it is.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:39pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:


Verrati has been struggling with injury over the last 2 weeks.
If he is fit before the final Herrera might return to the bench.
At least he is not useless. He could be called on to play a semi final. It was here some people said he's not even second choice

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Bjteensdes24: 12:40pm On Aug 19, 2020
Oasis007:
It's not necessary we keep playing same Formation for all Matches. OGS should learn to tweak Formations, Tactics and be unpredictable to the opposing Managers.

I wished he benched Rashford in the Semi and up for 3 - 5 - 2 Formation instead of the default Formation.

If we eventually (God forbids) miss out on getting Sancho, I really hope OGS plays 3 - 5 - 2 Formation. We need to be doing the Damage with our Strikers from the Middle not from the Flanks. The below Lineup can get the Job done;

__________________ DDG _________________

____ AWB _______ Maquire _____ Tuanzebe

James _____ Pogba _____ Fred _____ Shaw

_______________ Fernandes ______________

________ Greenwood ____ Martial ________

However, if we get Sanchez for next Season, then 4 - 3 - 3 Formation should be the default Formation, not 4 - 2 - 3 - 1.

___________________ DDG _________________

AWB_____ Maguire ___ Tuanzebe____ Shaw

__________Fred _ Bruno _ Pogba___________

Greenwood _____ Martial ________ Sancho.

Note: i don't include Rashford, because he should be allowed to heal completely and get fitted again.
This is a good line up o..Daniel James making those runs just like a right back will be better with his good cross and pace (first line up preferably)
Modified: Daniel should learn how to dribble small small arbeg maybe he will become a good one for us at that position
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 12:41pm On Aug 19, 2020
The point is that we can do better with what we have. If we continue to play like we did against Sevilla, create all those chances and limit the opponent as much as we did, we will win many more points that we did last season and win a trophy along the way

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:43pm On Aug 19, 2020
Nezzjnr:

cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy

I was expecting this after that yesterday match

I wonder if they'll be happy if were are the ones paying Herrera 300k. They never fail to learn and understand what the club is trying to correct. Albeit bleep Woodward.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:46pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
Since it is just about getting to the final even if it is as carry along i wonder how many of you will want Young and Sanchez back. At least they are also going to play a final.
It’s not only Lukaku and Herrera nah. cheesy

It makes no sense to imply that just because one team got to a final all its players are quality or better than players in other teams.

Messi, Ronaldo, Salah, Mane, KDB are not playing any major finals. Lukaku and Perisic are not better than them.
No one is saying get them back. I'm only saying we always shine light on the weakness of our players while if used properly to their strength we will enjoy them.
Every player has a weakness and a strength.
Amazing that we were yabbing was one of the best, if not best, defender for Roma. They played him to his strength. I won't be surprised if Jones goes out and does well.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:47pm On Aug 19, 2020
Expert17:


Limited Herrera wey good for stoping opposition play/attack, man - marking star players, playing through passes,big game player, ....... cool cool




cheesy No be until person do leg over before him Sabi ball.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:47pm On Aug 19, 2020
odizeey:

At least he is not useless. He could be called on to play a semi final. It was here some people said he's not even second choice

Hmmm i was probably Herrera’s harshest critic here and even i accepted that he could be a useful squad player but not a first team player.

He is not useless but his fans here overrated him saying he was better than Kante when Gueye at Everton and Ndidi at Leicester were better.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:48pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:
Since it is just about getting to the final even if it is as carry along i wonder how many of you will want Young and Sanchez back. At least they are also going to play a final.
It’s not only Lukaku and Herrera nah. cheesy

It makes no sense to imply that just because one team got to a final all its players are quality or better than players in other teams.

Messi, Ronaldo, Salah, Mane, KDB are not playing any major finals. Lukaku and Perisic are not better than them.


It’s weird how they’ve suddenly become the best thing after Shoprite bread grin

Lautaro Martinez has played a huge role in Inter’s firepower, even setup Lukaku’s first goal.

PSG has excellent firepower in the UCL at the moment.

So why make it seem that the guys who left United are the best? grin

Only Lukaku has shown quality, and even he has benefited very well from Lautaro’s partnership.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:49pm On Aug 19, 2020
odizeey:

At least he is not useless. He could be called on to play a semi final. It was here some people said he's not even second choice
Nobody is saying Herrera is useless, I love the Player myself, but one can't deny the amount of bench he's chopped this season. Like Doc said, he's in the picture now cos of Verrati's injury, aside that he should do a job when called upon, PSG ain't paying him 300k every week to be useless.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 12:52pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:



LOL. The kind shortsighted talk person dey read for here.

Aguero, Christiano Ronaldo, Messi and Aubameyang are not in the final but Maxim Choupo-Moting is in the final. He must be better than them and Barca should swap Messi for Sarabia who is also in the final. grin

What a higi haga.

It’s tiring grin it’s really tiring grin grin
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:53pm On Aug 19, 2020
eph12:

You may be probably right about AWB. However Herrera, Lukaku and co will be playing European finals soon. They are also judged to be heavily limited. At the end of the day, an excellent coach, a balanced team with a mix of some world class players, we should be fine

Herrera is still heavily limited. That he is in the UCL final means little because he hardly contributed to his team’s efforts to get there.

Yesterday, Marquinhos and Parades were the ones pulling the strings in midfield. Herrera? He was hiding behind opposition players.

Don’t be surprised if he was omitted from the final starting XI.

Lukaku I’d give more credit because he’s a goalscorer. However, his teamplay is not top notch. If United need a striker without much teamplay I’d go for him.

Unfortunately, United is a team that teams will sit back and defend against. If your teamplay isn’t top notch and your teammates aren’t KdB, Messi or Ozil, you will struggle.

The less said of Sanchez the better. That guy can not perform in a team with huge expectations.

And the Italian league is way easier than the premier league.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:55pm On Aug 19, 2020
odizeey:
shebi them talk say them dey bench Herrera, say him no dey see shirt. cheesy

Herrera never see shirt. Veratti is back. He will return to the bench in no time. Quality cannot be manufactured. You either got it or you don’t.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:55pm On Aug 19, 2020
Sometimes you guys miss the point in a bit to sound woke. I've gone past Lukaku and Herrera sales and so on.
But the truth is this same Lukaku and co we were lambasting another person is using them well to his taste.

Use what you have you use it. Don't be looking at another man's property and let go of the unique one you have because when that property you are eyeing comes you might not be able to use it well.

The sanch we are talking about, do you know the scope the Dortmund coach use to play him?

You know the kind tea them dey give am?

You know the kind motivation wen d coach dey motivate am with?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:56pm On Aug 19, 2020
odizeey:

No one is saying get them back. I'm only saying we always shine light on the weakness of our players while if used properly to their strength we will enjoy them.
Every player has a weakness and a strength.
Amazing that we were yabbing was one of the best, if not best, defender for Roma. They played him to his strength. I won't be surprised if Jones goes out and does well.




Serie A is slower and poorer quality. Even Sanchez is scoring more there.

Smalling is a decent defender but very poor on the ball and that becomes a problem in a fast paced league.

Also think of this. Good teams like PSG, Bayern can have loads of really good players with a few average players in the mix, BUT our team had loads of average players with a few good players in the mix.
THAT IS OUR PROBLEM.

Each of these players on his own might not be too bad but when you gather them together in one team the problems start to show.
For example, if you play James with Pogba and Bruno he might not perform that poorly compared to if you play him the next week with Pereira and Lingard.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 12:56pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:


Verrati has been struggling with injury over the last 2 weeks.
If he is fit before the final Herrera might return to the bench.

Herrera will certainly return to the bench in the final.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 12:57pm On Aug 19, 2020
odizeey:

No one is saying get them back. I'm only saying we always shine light on the weakness of our players while if used properly to their strength we will enjoy them.
Every player has a weakness and a strength.
Amazing that we were yabbing was one of the best, if not best, defender for Roma. They played him to his strength. I won't be surprised if Jones goes out and does well.


Thank you. We have players, we need the manager to bring the best out of the players. Let's stop yabbing out players and demanding that the club go all out and buy new players everytime.

Lukaku, Sanchez, errrmmmm Ashley Young, going to Europa final, if we had won the Sevilla game, I am so sure Inter would have killed us in the final, with our former players doing the damage. Abeg, Inter get super stars?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 12:58pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:


Hmmm i was probably Herrera’s harshest critic here and even i accepted that he could be a useful squad player but not a first team player.

He is not useless but his fans here overrated him saying he was better than Kante when Gueye at Everton and Ndidi at Leicester were better.

It's all right. We will be all right in the end.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by afrodoc2: 12:59pm On Aug 19, 2020
Leyqute:


Herrera will certainly return to the bench in the final.

No o. Herrera must start that final.

They want us to swap Bruno for Herrera because one made a final and the other did not. cheesy
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nezzjnr: 1:00pm On Aug 19, 2020
odizeey:

No one is saying get them back. I'm only saying we always shine light on the weakness of our players while if used properly to their strength we will enjoy them.
Every player has a weakness and a strength.
Amazing that we were yabbing was one of the best, if not best, defender for Roma. They played him to his strength. I won't be surprised if Jones goes out and does well.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:01pm On Aug 19, 2020
handelex:
Nobody is saying Herrera is useless, I love the Player myself, but one can't deny the amount of bench he's chopped this season. Like Doc said, he's in the picture now cos of Verrati's injury, aside that he should do a job when called upon, PSG ain't paying him 300k every week to be useless.
But I thought he was like 5th in line na. You guys have been calling only verrati.
Is that not the squad depth that's killing us now?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:01pm On Aug 19, 2020
Leyqute:


Herrera is still heavily limited. That he is in the UCL final means little because he hardly contributed to his team’s efforts to get there.

Yesterday, Marquinhos and Parades were the ones pulling the strings in midfield. Herrera? He was hiding behind opposition players.

Don’t be surprised if he was omitted from the final starting XI.

Lukaku I’d give more credit because he’s a goalscorer. However, his teamplay is not top notch. If United need a striker without much teamplay I’d go for him.

Unfortunately, United is a team that teams will sit back and defend against. If your teamplay isn’t top notch and your teammates aren’t KdB, Messi or Ozil, you will struggle.

The less said of Sanchez the better. That guy can not perform in a team with huge expectations.

And the Italian league is way easier than the premier league.

So, Italian league is easier but Inter is in the final of Europa league, while Man Utd was beaten by another team from La liga (another shitty league?)....

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:02pm On Aug 19, 2020
Leyqute:


Herrera never see shirt. Veratti is back. He will return to the bench in no time. Quality cannot be manufactured. You either got it or you don’t.

I thought he was fifth in line to shirt na.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 1:03pm On Aug 19, 2020
Agenda must agend for here jare.

Me I just want OGS to fuvk off! Current set of players can win trophies for us, we need a better tactician.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 1:05pm On Aug 19, 2020
Oh well. 20 matches into next season will determine if there’s a headway or not.

Because they’ll most likely play very well for the first 10 - 15 matches, as they’ve done before.

If you have headache because of OGS, na your personal wahala be that grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by odizeey(m): 1:07pm On Aug 19, 2020
afrodoc2:




Serie A is slower and poorer quality. Even Sanchez is scoring more there.

Smalling is a decent defender but very poor on the ball and that becomes a problem in a fast paced league.

Also think of this. Good teams like PSG, Bayern can have loads of really good players with a few average players in the mix, BUT our team had loads of average players with a few good players in the mix.
THAT IS OUR PROBLEM.

Each of these players on his own might not be too bad but when you gather them together in one team the problems start to show.
For example, if you play James with Pogba and Bruno he might not perform that poorly compared to if you play him the next week with Pereira and Lingard.

Serie A is a poor league, La Liga poor league, bundesliga poor league, ligue one, but those guys will disgrace EPL teams. Funny.

My point is still bring the best out of your players. Martial for all his skills should be a better goal scorer. Greenwood should be hanging goals next season with his abilities. Rashford can do better. We have the guys to win at least a spoon.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by patrickmuf(m): 1:07pm On Aug 19, 2020
Odizeey is only saying with the right formation and tactics, some of the Players we malign here will blossom, not that we should get back the players we have sold.

Ole's man management is top notch, he just needs to get the tactical/technical side right for him to become one of the top rated coaches around...

On transfers, una sure say we no go start contribution here so we fit get Sancho?

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