ayoola27:
Even my Edo ancestors claim that they conquered Lagos...Do u believe that too

Lmao....why are u running away...

U just claimed that U weren't holding Roupell as an authority but u quoted his works more that 10 times knowing well that it was false.... seeing that u have been caught...U then deny that u weren't using it as ur authority...Now that the loopholes in the purported story of Roupell has been exposed..U are now running away... why don't u stay and defend ur Roupell or is it because the people of old didn't say something abt Yoruba that u regard them as true


Also kindly show me where in the article it is said that such story came from the oba palace

You seem to lack the ability to be logical.

Your ancestors claim is binding on YOU not me. Do you understand English??

If your ancestors’ claims must be binding on me, then it must be able to stand the test of other corroborative accounts and established historical evidence.

For the Edo account about Lagos, see where the Edo account was demolished from HERE onward.

Hellraiser77:
Babaramota I've searched Far and wide, No solution insight for you

Guy e remain small make u sef mad ...

Jus negodu how u beat that small boy

Hellraiser77:
Fa amaro ka mu si kwado!!

Baddest! !

Hellraiser77:
Babaramota I've searched Far and wide, No solution insight for you

Repent or no heaven for you.

Honestly, this people are something else.

TAO11 beat all of you sissies without balls ganging up on her, red blue and black. Instead of you all to make a showing at rebutting her facts, you started insulting her person.

Well, we should not be surprised. You used worse insults on your women that you still relegate to subhuman in your culture. That is why they leave you in the cellar.

Instead of going home sober, you are jubilating and celebrating defeat as usual.

Do you guys know the dates of Iron, Terracotta before bronze was introduced to you.

Any idea of Iwo Eleru, Nok Culture and the movement of Ife (7 of them accord. Obayemi) from North to South.

There are other cultures Igbo would not dare compare themselves with in Nigeria. But it is easier to use Yoruba as the Giant. Once you are lifted on the shoulder of the Giant, you started beating your chest that you can see further.

TAO11:
You seem to lack the ability to be logical.

Your ancestors claim is binding on YOU not me. Do you understand English??

If your ancestors’ claims must be binding on me, then it must be able to stand the test of other corroborative accounts and established historical evidence.

For the Lagos account, see where the Edo account was demolished HERE.

Lol...U are the one who is illogical here.... The Oba palace does not conform with this Roupell report not even Egharevba or the 1970s books abt Benin history... So There is no way it's binding on me...


My issue is that u believe this despite multiple reports from both Yoruba and Benin that Eweka was born in Benin

One more thing....U always tend to overestimate ur self.... U are nothing....
U never demolished any account...Ur account instead was made to save face...U didn't even post the screenshot for all to see...it was audio
Ur account cant prove that Benin didn't conquer Lagos...mine did
it can't prove that Benin caused a change of rulership in Lagos...mine did
it can't prove that Lagos wasnt a vassal of Benin...mine did
it can't prove that Lagos didn't pay tributes to Benin for close to 300 years ...mine did


So how the fvck did u demolish any account

PS: post screenshots

ayoola27:


Lol...U are the one who is illogical here.... The Oba palace does not conform with this Roupell report not even Egharevba or the 1970s books abt Benin history... So There is no way it's binding on me...


My issue is that u believe this despite multiple reports from both Yoruba and Benin that Eweka was born in Benin

One more thing....U always tend to overestimate ur self.... U are nothing....
U never demolished any account...Ur account instead was made to save face...U didn't even post the screenshot for all to see...it was audio
Ur account cant prove that Benin didn't conquer Lagos...mine did
it can't prove that Benin caused a change of rulership in Lagos...mine did
it can't prove that Lagos wasnt a vassal of Benin...mine did
it can't prove that Lagos didn't pay tributes to Benin for close to 300 years ...mine did


So how the fvck did u demolish any account

Why must the present Oba palace have to confirm it to continue to put themselves under Yoruba subjugation in the modern era?

But we know, however, that their ancestors did confirm similar fact to the Europeans severally —

Oba Eweka(2), for example, informed H. L. Ward-Price that every morning at dawn, he must offer ritual supplications (while facing the rising sun) to his “Oghene” who lives in “Ife”. — see: H.L. Ward-Price, “Dark Subjects” (London, 1939), p.238.

Everyone here can see clearly through your inferiority and insecurity. It is easy to see who is desperately defensive.

And regarding Lagos, don’t be scared to follow that link to see how your brothers were shattered and scattered on every single point they raised.

See the link HERE again. But be warned that it is grammatically and conceptually dense, so you may need an Edo translator.

Good luck!

gwafaeziokwu:


You are good nwanne m. I really love the way you evaded his insults and slapped him with facts. This thread really finished them off. No Yoruba will ever repeat this type of mistake again. I believe they have learnt their lessons.

Lol! Sometimes facts are ways to improve learning. But kudos to you and the other dude Hellraiser una defend the matter well. And kudos to TAO and BabaRamota, I love their decorum even when angered by Hellraiser, they kept it cool. With their own side of the story and with evidence too.

I don't know when we'll really unite ourselves in the south, mostly led by the Yorubas and Igbo. Every group is always claiming seniority and superiority over the other. For me, I believe that the only way to cement real peace and harmony between the both ethnic groups is when we talk about our shared heritage.

The Ooni of Ife has helped pushed this cultural relationship and the Obi of Onitsha has lend his voice too. It's now left on historians, linguist, scientist and archaeologist to do more research in the following areas, from Yorubaland, Igboland, Igala, Benin etc, we need to know our shared heritage, find similarities in our languages and cultures and focus more on what unites us than what divides us.

I pity your neighbors that do not know their history, you are exploiting their lack of knowledge. Yoruba will expose you to them.

Listen to what Basden said about Nri.

"Nri was a small town".
Headquarters of a priestly cult and the priests travelled around coronating kings in Igbo country.




Nri is not the cult. Nri is not a progenitor. Nri is not a king. Nri is just a small town. Inside the Nri town lived priests - mburuichi - who traveled around igno country coronating kings.

This priesthood itself is not Igbo origin. It came from a foreignland.

Basden went on to say, in Onitsha, when asked where they came from they pointed to the East.

Where is the East of Onitsha they pointed to?


Small small Basden go expose una. I go wake am up to talk about his stay among the primitive Ibo.

Cc
Tao11

UdechiHD:
Lol! Sometimes facts are ways to improve learning. But kudos to you and the other dude Hellraiser una defend the matter well. And kudos to TAO and BabaRamota, I love their decorum even when angered by Hellraiser, they kept it cool. With their own side of the story and with evidence too.

I don't know when we'll really unite ourselves in the south, mostly led by the Yorubas and Igbo. Every group is always claiming seniority and superiority over the other. For me, I believe that the only way to cement real peace and harmony between the both ethnic groups is when we talk about our shared heritage.

The Ooni of Ife has helped pushed this cultural relationship and the Obi of Onitsha has lend his voice too. It's now left on historians, linguist, scientist and archaeologist to do more research in the following areas, from Yorubaland, Igboland, Igala, Benin etc, we need to know our shared heritage, find similarities in our languages and cultures and focus more on what unites us than what divides us.

Stop claiming falsely that this art is igbo ikwu. It is not. I wonder how many of the arts in your collection are truly igbo.

BabaRamota1980:


Stop claiming falsely that this art is igbo ikwu. It is not. I wonder how many of the arts in your collection are truly igbo.

Yes, this sculpture (just like the one at my DP) is from Ita-Yemoo in Ile-Ife.

I think he has learnt that lesson. He just didn’t apologize for obvious reasons.

U'll not post screenshot... it's to be quoting somebody somewhere that only God knows whether it's correct

Then she finally posts the screenshot and alas it’s different from what she has been saying

Ah swear this guy na clown

TAO11:
Why must the present Oba palace have to confirm it to continue to put themselves under Yoruba subjugation in the modern era?

But we know, however, that their ancestors did confirm similar fact to the Europeans severally —

Oba Eweka(2), for example, informed H. L. Ward-Price that every morning at dawn, he must offer ritual supplications (while facing the rising sun) to his “Oghene” who lives in “Ife”. — see: H.L. Ward-Price, “Dark Subjects” (London, 1939), p.238.

Everyone here can see clearly through your inferiority and insecurity. It is easy to see who is desperately defensive.

And regarding Lagos, don’t be scared to follow that link to see how your brothers were shattered and scattered on every single point they raised.

See the link HERE again. But be warned that it is grammatically and conceptually dense, so you may need an Edo translator.

Good luck!

A lot of books made on Benin history..none except urs claim Eweka was born in Ife...and u gullibily believed as it suits ur narrative... everything else be damned

Why don't u post the screenshot of this person u are quoting... or u want to deny its not ur authority ..The same way u denied Roupell

U always keep overhyping ur self .... none of what u said can beat the letter oba Akitoye wrote to the British.
Even in Robert Smith's book... it was said that the Benin account corroborate with Josua Ulsheimer..U are yet to post ur Yoruba man book/screenshot where it was written that Lagos account corroborates Josua Ulsheimer

U are only good at
revising history..

PS: u are yet to show me where in Roupell article did the claims come from oba palace..

lies, lies and more lies as usual...

ayoola27:

A lot of books made on Benin history..none except urs claim Eweka was born in Ife...and u gullibily believed as it suits ur narrative... everything else be damned

Why don't u post the screenshot of this person u are quoting... or u want to deny its not ur authority ..The same way u denied Roupell

U always keep overhyping ur self .... none of what u said can beat the letter oba Akitoye wrote to the British.
Even in Robert Smith's book... it was said that the Benin account corroborate with Josua Ulsheimer..U are yet to post ur Yoruba man book/screenshot where it was written that Lagos account corroborates Josua Ulsheimer

U are only good at
revising history..

Blame your fathers for the bold. The account is not from Yorubas, it is from your daddies in the 1800s.

Oba Eweka(2), for example, informed H. L. Ward-Price that every morning at dawn, he must offer ritual supplications (while facing the rising sun) to his “Oghene” who lives in “Ife”. — see: H.L. Ward-Price, “Dark Subjects” (London, 1939), p.238

Regarding Lagos, read as I have directed. Some of the “best” Edo minds that you all pushed forward fled like a b!tch when I dealt with him.

TAO11:
Blame your fathers for the bold.

Lmao...oya...tell me how Oranmiyan came into the picture if the article was true...
.Don't be afraid

TAO11:
Blame your fathers for the bold. The account is not from Yorubas, it is from your daddies in the 1800s.

Regarding Lagos, read as I have directed. Some of the “best” Edo minds that you all pushed forward fled like a b!tch when I dealt with him.

Regarding Lagos...some of the best Yoruba minds fled and resorted to personal attacks when they were dealt with

See the [url="https://www.nairaland.com/6016047/ewuare-oba-benin-hails-wike/12#92167574"]LINK[/url]..where the Edo guy battered u into mere fiction writer

ayoola27:
Regarding Lagos...some of the best Yoruba minds fled and resorted to personal attacks when they were dealt with

At least I gave you the link. Read it and not be scared.

HERE is the link one more time.

ayoola27:
Lmao...oya...tell me how Oranmiyan came into the picture if the article was true...
.Don't be afraid

A key sign of a failed argument is to become circular.

You couldn’t press forward so you had to return to where you begin.

See attached!

TAO11:
At least I gave you the link. Read it and not be scared.

I glanced through...All lies, no screenshots and more lies

I should waste my time to read a revised story from a Nairaland historian...

Na.. I'll pass

ayoola27:

I glanced through...All lies, no screenshots and more lies

I should waste my time to read a revised story from a Nairaland historian...

Na.. I'll pass

I am glad you were honest enough to admit that you didn’t really read it

Moreover, your brother provided the evidence and screenshot I used to flog him. So you lied again as a typical Edo bush meat.

When you have time, do read and study it.

TAO11:
A key sign of a failed argument is to become circular.

You couldn’t press forward so you had to return to where you begin.

See attached!

Are u referring to urself...cos u are yet to tell me how Oranmiyan came into the picture...

You deflected the argument firat

TAO11:
I am glad you were honest enough to say you didn’t really read it.

When you have to read and study it.

Who reads lies with no proof.

Even the court of law won't take ur case seriously if u don't have solid proof

For someone to always be quick to declare victory on himself, it goes to show how low the person is regarding self-esteem

ayoola27:


Are u referring to urself...cos u are yet to tell me how Oranmiyan came into the picture...

You deflected the argument firat

You began your argument here with the Oranmiyan questions.

And I replied you till we got to this point.

You noticed you couldn’t go forward anymore so you decided to go circular.

See attached for evidence of my claim here.

ayoola27:

Who reads lies with no proof.
Even the court of law won't take ur case seriously if u don't have solid proof

Ayoola: It is filled with lies.

Me: How did you know that?

Ayoola: Because ... eeeerm ... I DiD nOt rEaD iT.

TAO11:
You began your argument here with the Oranmiyan questions.

And I replied you till we got here.

You noticed you could go forward anymore so you decided to go circular.

See attached for evidence of my claim here.

U still didn't answer my question and u know it...

Stop trying to cover up... So the same Benin people that told him his story suddenly forgot abt Oranmiyan, how Eweka got his name?

I cant believe I'm having this conversation with someone like this

ayoola27:


U still didn't answer my question and u know it...

Stop trying to cover up... So the same Benin people that told him his story suddenly forgot abt Oranmiyan, how Eweka got his name?

I cant believe I'm having this conversation with someone like this

I did answer.

In case you’re partially amnesiac, see attached and start all over again if you please.

TAO11:
Ayoola: It is filled with lies.

Me: How did you know that.

Ayoola: Because ... eeeerm ... I DiD nOt rEaD iT.

Always post screenshots...lets all verify ...abi u don't want us to scrutinise it the same way I did ur Roupell article
U have quoted Eweka again but no one knows where the book is

TAO Na liar by Nnamdi Azikiwe "My beginning" p234

Very fond of deflecting questions that u have no answer to...

I've scrutinise the article.. finding it false and incomplete...but because it suits Tao narrative..Tao has already believed it as true

I'm outta here

Sha

ayoola27:


Always post screenshots...lets all verify ...abi u don't want us to scrutinise it the same way I did ur Roupell article

TAO Na liar by Nnamdi Azikiwe "My beginning" p234

Anyone can make up a screenshot by typing up and convert into a pdf.

References is what kills it, and that is what academics do, and that is what I’ve almost always being doing.

You get the opportunity to do your own homework.

ayoola27:
Very fond of deflecting questions that u have no answer to...

I'm outta here

I feel your pain and frustration!

One more before you go:

Oba Eweka(2), for example, informed H. L. Ward-Price that every morning at dawn, he must offer ritual supplications (while facing the rising sun) to his “Oghene” who lives in “Ife”. — see: H.L. Ward-Price, “Dark Subjects” (London, 1939), p.238.

TAO11:
Anyone can make up a screenshot by typing up and convert into a pdf.

References is what kills it, and that is what academics do, and that is what I’ve almost always being doing. You get the opportunity to do your homework

Most books are not that accessible, some require payments...

So because I want to win arguments with a nobody online....I'll start buying tons of books not related to my study...

Since u had access to it, screenshot it and post it here for all to see...

Anybody can still make up references to books that cannot be easily accessed by others

Period

Modified: And that baba ramota that quoted me....its not my fault ur thinking faculty is on its lowest

TAO11:
I feel your pain and frustration!

One more before you go:

Oba Eweka(2), for example, informed H. L. Ward-Price that every morning at dawn, he must offer ritual supplications (while facing the rising sun) to his “Oghene” who lives in “Ife”. — see: H.L. Ward-Price, “Dark Subjects” (London, 1939), p.238.

Post screenshots

And I never insulted....I cant stoop so low to do such...its an insult to me myself

Besides u said I shouldn't judge ur article by one page...why haven't u post the rest

Still yet to answer the Oranmiyan question tho