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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 6:35pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
komekn:The F-16 was delivered to the USAF in 1979 The JF-17 was delivered to the PAF in 2007 The JF -17 main selling point is to be a cheaper ,cost effective , multi role aircraft not to compete with the F-16 it came about because dueto political consideration the US reneged on a deal to sell F-16s to the PAF. So far the PAF have participated in one aerial combat against the Indian Air force and it held its own. I don't understand the point you are trying to make the JF-17 is a good plane for Nigeria's current needs maybe in the future when the Economy is on better footing Nigeria can acquire the SU27/ 30 but a $30 M + $$ for parts and training that is not cheap. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 6:38pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
komekn:One thing I would bet on is that the NAF will have a clause option for upgrades with the PAF [perhaps during the first PDM of the 3. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Mugiwaraluffy: 7:38pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
komekn: But if NAF had gone for F-16, you'd still complain about US ammunition that's it's too expensive and we can get more value of that with JF17 which is similar. No offense, but sometimes I feel you just enjoy being controversial and trying to criticize every single asset we're acquiring. I too have my personal reservations about NAF but let's not delve into that today. 10 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by slimthugchimee2(m): 7:51pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
Mugiwaraluffy: The guys ranting has become tiresome 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Fynline(m): 8:34pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Mugiwaraluffy: 8:41pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
slimthugchimee2:It's annoying. One mark of an intelligent person is knowing when to contribute in a conversation and when to stop doing so. Yes I sometimes love the way he analyses some equipment. I'll give it to him, he's analytical but not always factual. You can't subject your personal preference on others. Let's be honest with ourselves, NAF is just playing catch up but the strides and landmarks they've achieved in the past 4 years, they've not done that in recent times. If only this current CAS is given the chance to embark on a long term project for 20 years with funds, the rest would be story. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:25pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
In reply please quote Ref No. CZ.5300/FPRD/FHQ/ABJ/VOL.3/8 Date: 25th August, 2020 The Director of News ……………………………. PRESS RELEASE COMMUNITY POLICING: IGP RECEIVES OPERATIONAL VEHICLES FROM INNOSON · Urges Other Corporate Citizens To Emulate Him The Community Policing efforts of the Nigeria Police Force have continued to receive commendable support from Governments, Corporate Bodies and Private Individuals as the Inspector-General of Police, IGP M.A Adamu, NPM, mni, today, 25th August, 2020 received three (3) operational vehicles donated by Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company Limited to the Nigeria Police Force in support of ongoing efforts at repositioning the Force for optimal performance. The vehicles, Innoson G12 Series, consisting of the Single Cabin Pick-up Truck MSI, Double Cabin Pick-up Truck MSII and the SUV MSIII were presented to the Nigeria Police Force by Mr. Jonas Maduabuchukwu Ojukwu on behalf of Chief (Dr) Innocent I. Chukwuma, OFR and Management of Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company Limited in furtherance of their Corporate Social Responsibility, community support and other efforts directed at making the country peaceful, safe and secure. The IGP, represented by the Deputy Inspector General of Police, Department of Operations, DIG Abdulmajid Ali, in his remarks, expressed his appreciation to Chief (Dr) Innocent I. Chukwuma, OFR and the Management of Innoson Vehicle Manufacturing Company Limited for their kind gesture towards the Force. He noted that with public support of this nature, the Nigeria Police Force will no doubt be able to meet its operational and infrastructural needs in combating crimes and criminality in the country. He enjoins other well-meaning individuals and corporate bodies to emulate the gesture. DCP FRANK MBA FORCE PUBLIC RELATIONS OFFICER FORCE HEADQUARTERS ABUJA 1 Like
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 9:32pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
bidexiii: Bro please can you explain what this community policing is all about. How is it going to be done. I still don't understand it. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 9:45pm On Aug 25, 2020 |
youghs: Me too, I don't really understand |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 11:53am On Aug 26, 2020 |
Fynline: That is really a good one! |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 12:03pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
komekn: Interestingly Philippines and Colombia are replacing their Broncos with A29s while the rest of the OV10 fleet went directly to the scrapyard or museums on display. 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 2:30pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
bidexiii: Fyi,this demonic ishyt is wayyyy more common in Somalia than you may think. Somalis,though will DIE before admitting anything-IIRC,a decade ago a whole block of flats in Eastleigh was full of their homos:at night you'd see UN and diplomatic vehicles coming to pick up their flat,faggoty,dusty broken arses. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 2:36pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
SFCommander2: But when Kanu speaks this way am I the only one who wonders what's his REAL AGENDA? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 3:13pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
This week seems to be very good for the army and air force in the NE. ISWAP has lost a many commanders and hundreds of fighters due to intelligence led operations by our gallant troops. 5 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 3:42pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
GeneralMarshall: But our media is silent. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 3:51pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 4:38pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
It seems the Military big wigs do not get angry or do not have the powers to discipline Military priest or Reverend preaching at the altar 3 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 4:43pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
SamuelAnyawu:why u say so? |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GeneralMarshall: 5:05pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
youghs: No, the army has been stingy with full details especially when big wins are earned over the terrorists. Lol, to avoid ambush things. But the news is still out there, but scanty. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:39pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
youghs:Was about to say same. Good news sells not — Sango 1642 |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Covert1: 6:58pm On Aug 26, 2020 |
https://af.reuters.com/article/topNews/idAFKBN25M2E9-OZATP That or send in the big guns. This coup nonsense in Africa really should be unheard of anymore. This proposal is the least or minimum choice for the putschists in Bamako. No more concessions. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 7:14am On Aug 27, 2020 |
Odunayaw: it's very pathetic |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 8:53am On Aug 27, 2020 |
She would have been dead if not for God.NAF needs proper HUMINT before Airstrike.though this one was correct but they had no idea Hostages where there. MNJTF FACILITATES RETURN OF NURSE ABDUCTED BY ISWAP 1. In consonance with the mandate of the Multinational Joint Task Force (MNJTF) which includes to "Facilitate within the limits of it's capabilities, humanitarian operations and the delivery of assistance to the affected populations", the Task Force has facilitated the return of a Nigerian Nurse (name and organization withheld) who was abducted by ISWAP and held in captivity since the beginning of 2020. 2. The nurse who was incarcerated in one of ISWAP's strong holds in the Lake Chad bolted to safety and freedom, in the aftermath of a joint air interdiction conducted by the MNJTF and national partners. According to him, "after bombs and rockets from the aircrafts landed and everywhere exploded in flames, both terrorists and hostages ran for dear life. I had to take my chance. I am grateful to God that I was able to escape". The nurse then made his way to a village in Niger Republic and was promptly handed over to security agents in Sector 4 of the MNJTF. 3. The airlift and hand- over of the nurse to Nigerian authorities was preceded by medical examination conducted to determine the state of health of the victim after spending 8 months in the horrific and squalid conditions which he had to endure during the period of his captivity in ISWAP enclave. 4. The MNJTF wishes to reassure populations in the Lake Chad Basin of it's determination to provide security and facilitate development efforts being spearheaded by the respective national governments and international development partners. Signed Colonel Muhammad Dole Chief of Military Public Information HQ MNJTF Ndjamena Chad 26 August 2020 |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 9:17am On Aug 27, 2020 |
TROOPS OF OPERATION WHIRL STROKE BUST TERRORISTS CELL; RECOVER EXPLOSIVES, ARMS AND AMMUNITION IN NASARAWA, AS 410 MEMBERS OF DARUL SALAM TERRORISTS GROUP SURRENDER 1. In continuation of aggressive clearance operations aimed at decisively riding the North-Central zone of armed banditry and other forms of criminality, troops of Operation WHIRL STROKE have recorded a major success against the criminal elements. 2. Following aggressive intensive kinetic operations at identified bandits' enclaves, not less than 410 members of the Darul Salam Terrorists group, including women and children, surendered to the troops of operation WHIRL STROKE and other security agencies deployed at Uttu in Toto Local Government Area of Nasarawa State. This development took place on 25 August 2020. 3. Relatedly, troops of Operation WHIRL STROKE while on a robust clearance patrol around Uttu, on 26 August 2020 stormed a Darul Salam terrorists bomb-making factory following actionable technical and human intelligence on the activities of the terrorists in the general area. In the course of the operation, troops recovered several Improvised Explosive Device making materials at the location including 2 scales, 6 rocket launcher bombs, one bag of fertilizer, half a bag of gun powder, 10 locally made hand grenades, one Rocket Propelled Grenade bomb fuse, one locally made Rocket Launcher, 2 Improvised Explosive Devices,13 Improvised rocket bombs, amongst others. The camp was subsequently destroyed while troops are equally combing the surrounding forests for fleeing members of the sect. 4. The Military High Command commends the gallant troops of Operation WHIRL STROKE for their professionalism and dexterity in achieving this notable feat and also urges them to sustain the tempo in the push to decisively curtail the activities of armed bandits and other criminals operating in the North-Central zone. JOHN ENENCHE Major General Coordinator Defence Media Operations Defence Headquarters 26 August 2020. |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 10:39am On Aug 27, 2020 |
Toju200: Omo.. I pray we dont begin to hear of bomb blasts in NW and NC.. cos if a bomb factory can be found in Nasarawa. I wonder what would be in Niger, Katsina, zamfara or other states in NW and NC |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 11:21am On Aug 27, 2020 |
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 12:41pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Mugiwaraluffy: Your perception and what you feel is entire your prerogative. What l said is that this airframe is not on the same quality in any way as the F16. That's a simple truth. We say where l am from, " Cheap article de spoil belle " Using the analogy of cars from established long-term quality manufacturers. A used Mercedes-Benz will you more long-term reliability and perfomance than a cheap one from Pakistan. I have noticed the very much older Apha jets joint European manufactured have given us far more reliability and effectiveness than the recently procured and expensive Chinese made F-7 (Mig21) 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 12:54pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
SuperSixSeven: You have lost the context. The context is best value and most effective use of scarce resources. If the USAF can deploy the OV10 Bronco to great effect albeit it upgraded in fighting against ISIS in Mosul. Then l would be very happy in procuring 60 of these aircraft for the NAF that could be be acquired for next to nothing. That would be a complete game changer in the NE. I could add that Peruvian Airforce have replaced there over priced and expensive A29 Tucano and replaced them with the Korean KAI K1 attack aircraft. One of the problem with our procurement in the Nigerian armed forces. Is we simply do not buy enough to make an over riding impact. Our procurement for aircraft should be in multiples of at least 20. Our procurement of Armoured fighting vehicles multiple variations, should be in hundreds not multiliples of 10/20 as we have done with the recent Chinese procurement. If Indeed we want to have long lasting sustainable impact in this war on terror and win it comprehensively.
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 1:30pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
bidexiii:I smell marketing/advertisment strategy.. 2 Likes |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kikuyu1(m): 2:02pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
komekn: I don't think so. The last ones were made in '86! I doubt you'd want to risk stressing the fuselage with its full payload of a modest 1.1 T,4X less than the TAV. Also the Bronco frankly is underpowered with its uprated engines maxing out at 1020 shp still way below the TAV at 1070 shp.. The aircraft was underpowered especially when loaded down with ordnancehttps://www.avgeekery.com/the-incredible-ov-10-bronco-kicking-enemy-tail-for-50-years/ Aircrews found the Bronco maneuverable, with the spoilers providing an excellent rate of roll, but it[b] was underpowered; if one of the engines was lost at airspeeds below 220 KPH (120 knots), standard procedure was to punch out immediately[/b]. As the Bronco almost always operated at low altitude, going into a dive to build up speed was not usually an option.http://www.airvectors.net/avbronco.html With its two 715-hp Garrett T76-G-410/412 turboprops...Even so, the OV-10 was generally regarded as underpowered, which led to its eventual demise.https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/a19887/ov-10-war-isis/ Better to pay 12-15 mn$ max for a 12 ship TAV squadron or 144-180 mn$ and wait 6 mos or a year for full delivery. 1 Like |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 2:38pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by demolition: 3:09pm On Aug 27, 2020 |
Toju200: Update
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