I think some folks are just jealous because of the acceptability of Nigerian doctors abroad. They wish their profession would have same demand abroad so they can leave too, but since it is not so, they cry fowl. Nigerians are always against their fellows progress. Anybody that wants to leave Nigeria for a better life should leave. What about footballers that are going abroad to ply their trade? why

frog12:
NOT until you don't see any DOCTOR to treat any sickness tomorrow, then YOU WILL UNDERSTAND what we are talking about.
and by the way, I've seen the way foreign DOCTORS treat patient overseas, it is even more STRESSFUL than what these greedy NIGERIAN DOCTORS ARE complaining of.

You think you are the only MEDICAL STUDENT THAT studies?
Have you seen the class schedule of overseas Medical schools? It is even more than yours!
This is the problem with these Nigerian doctors, they are arrogant and think THEY ARE KING, and deserve such. They can not even treat CORONA VIRUS, or even think of any MEDICAL CURE in their lifetime. Na oyinbo must come up with every SOLUTION. Tufiakwa to your GREEDY DOCTORS!

In fact, I pray we get to this stage sooner than later. That's when we will be ready to take back our country from looters who threaten to bring us down as a nation and work on ourselves as citizens.

Until then, we will continue to manage things, and they will continue pushing us to the wall until we eventually break it.

People like you that probably have access to a better life won't see anything wrong with Nigeria. Till everything everything eventually crumbles from it's root.

When you don't see DOCTORS tomorrow, you will know why we are saying this.

Wizedoc:
I think some folks are just jealous because of the acceptability of Nigerian doctors abroad. They wish their profession would have same demand abroad so they can leave too, but since it is not so, they cry fowl. Nigerians are always against their fellows progress. Anybody that wants to leave Nigeria for a better life should leave. What about footballers that are going abroad to ply their trade? why

ahiboilandgas:
we dont have problems doctors leaving ..we have problems training your broke ass via our tax money then instead of working for us u want to work for oyinbo that didnt contribute anything....this is fraud.....u can study mbbs in iginedion or baze university and migrate no problem but Nigeria public uveristy no way u must work...or your father pays the markets price from his salary...

If that is what you want, then compute the data and state the figure to be paid, when they go abroad, they work and pay the government the chicken money, instead of being held hostage in this hopeless country. End of story.

this REASONING is just sentimental. too sentimental. tell us the PROBLEM.
THERE is no such thing as better life. Once you are a matured adult, you should not be afraid of any challenge in LIFE.

Have you seen the schedule of an overseas medical student?
Have you compared it to yours to see which studies more?

you make the better life instead of RUNNING AWAY FROM challenges. you run away, there's no better life. You come back to the same problem.

TheManofTomorrow:


In fact, I pray we get to this stage sooner than later. That's when we will be ready to take back our country from looters who threaten to bring us down as a nation and work on ourselves as citizens.

Until then, we will continue to manage things, and they will continue pushing us to the wall until we eventually break it.

People like you that probably have access to a better life won't see anything wrong with Nigeria. Till everything everything eventually crumbles from it's root.

TheManofTomorrow:


Take the money issue and keep that out of the discussion for now. Maybe you will understand things better.

What about the working condition, hospital equipment- Should they provide that for themselves. Have you been to OSUTH, LUTH, and much other government hospitals in Nigeria?

Even the best of the world's doctors wouldn't be able to perform any outstanding success with those.
So you still want them to go searching for Corona cure despite all that. Countries that are working towards Corona cure and doing top-notch research in medicine, do you know how much their government invests in those research?

Of course, you will say they should go and open their private hospital, do you know the amount of money involved in opening a quality standard private hospital in Nigeria. No doctor working on a 200k salary will ever be able to afford that.

You just have to think above your hate for the medical profession.
Or better still, let any of your children study medicine and when they graduate. Refer them to go and work in any of that 200k job for life.

Cheers

u see your just luv money but dont know how to generate it ....who uses salary to establish a business or hospitals ?....u design a bussiness plan that is bankanble and get investor or bank to fiance it ...some Indian group just built a massive hospital in kano like while Turkish hospitals.....the Nigeria doctors are just bucnch of lazy ass greedy group that can reason beyond salary and migration...

frog12:
wetin?
you say they are still receiving salaries even after they emigrate?

Lol.


No they dont, but they are paid.

Someone pays money and someone doesn't recieved said money. It gets missing along the way.

Wizedoc:
I think some folks are just jealous because of the acceptability of Nigerian doctors abroad. They wish their profession would have same demand abroad so they can leave too, but since it is not so, they cry fowl. Nigerians are always against their fellows progress. Anybody that wants to leave Nigeria for a better life should leave. What about footballers that are going abroad to ply their trade? why

They are only being selfish.

If only they know what these people went through daily in school before they get to where they are.

If they are so much pained, they can go and write exams for a medical course.
I have friends who are depressed academically during the last semester we had. Their counterpart in other courses involve in all sorts of pleasures and liberation, and still, they want to have the same rights as doctors. Laughable.

So such people should graduate and continue with the lives of misery?

The problem of a black man has always been themselves. We keep fighting ourselves instead of us to face our common enemy.
That's what our leader has been using and will continue to use to dominate us.

Wizedoc:
If that is what you want, then compute the data and state the figure to be paid, when they go abroad, they work and pay the government the chicken money, instead of being held hostage in this hopeless country. End of story.

yes that another way if migrants doctor can pay back the state the cost different under a bond agreement they are free to go.....this a forex earning for Nigeria ........turkish and Indians are establishing mega hospitals in Nigeria and making big money .....Nigerian doctors are shouting salary up and down plus migration....

You mean, they become ghost workers and someone is diverting the salary?

armadeo:



Lol.


No they dont, but they are paid.

Someone pays money and someone doesn't recieved said money. It gets missing along the way.

me as a native doctor dey travel to India soon

ahiboilandgas:
no body is forcing u to accept admissions in public university....public university =public service .....if u get money attend atbi and move to neywork ....oil and gas money is generated by company's.....greedy doctors can also form hospital and pay them self billions ....no body force them to accept govt jobs ......Lagoon hospitals na doctor open it..

What are you saying? So people that went to private universities can not work in public service? I just hope you are thinking. The road to your destination does not matter as long as you get to where you are going to. Whether private or public university, a doctor is a doctor!

ahiboilandgas:
yes that another way if migrants doctor can pay back the state the cost different under a bond agreement they are free to go.....this a forex earning for Nigeria ........turkish and Indians are establishing mega hospitals in Nigeria and making big money .....Nigerian doctors are shouting salary up and down plus migration....

They can shout whatever they like and migrate to wherever they want. Other professions can do same if they like.

Is that not what GREEDY DOCTORS are doing running away from the PROBLEM?

Have you seriously seen the academic schedule and classes of your overseas peers BEFORE complaining of how difficult it is?
There are some European universities where you have intake of 40, and only half finish. The others drop out. So this is universal everywhere. Medical standards must be HIGH, so you don't have substandard care. The SELFISH people here are DOCTORS.

TELL US the salary expenditures, you no fit do. You are giving your relatives all your MONEY, AND then you complain that the salary is not enough while the PATIENT dey die.

TheManofTomorrow:


They are only being selfish.

If only they know what these people went through daily in school before they get to where they are.

If they are so much pained, they can go and write exams for a medical course.
I have friends who are depressed academically during the last semester we had. Their counterpart in other courses involve in all sorts of pleasures and liberation, and still, they want to have the same rights as doctors. Laughable.

So such people should graduate and continue with the lives of misery?

The problem of a black man has always been themselves. We keep fighting ourselves instead of us to face our common enemy.
That's what our leader has been using and will continue to use to dominate us.

They need it

My friend and entrepreneurs doctor run a mega diagnotic centres with mri machines etc opp a teaching hospital ranks in millions ever month....he even granted 200m by bank of industry to import some equipment ....he currently have over 4 standard digonotic centre ...and wil never migrate unless for vacation.....greedy doctor are too blind to see ....indian are establishing such centre a single ananlysis can cost 60k ....while they busy talking of plabs and strikes ......doctors and lawyers are skilled ...u can create your own employments and earn your dream pay....

frog12:
this REASONING is just sentimental. too sentimental. tell us the PROBLEM.
THERE is no such thing as better life. Once you are a matured adult, you should not be afraid of any challenge in LIFE.

Have you seen the schedule of an overseas medical student?
Have you compared it to yours to see which studies more?

you make the better life instead of RUNNING AWAY FROM challenges. you run away, there's no better life. You come back to the same problem.

Are you okay with the way Nigeria is at the moment?
If not, what do you think is the solution?

How are they supposed to make a better life? By collecting a 200k salary or working in impoverished conditions?

The place they are migrating to isn't devoid of challenges, too, but those are sane challenges. Not the kind we have in Nigeria.

I don't need to compare. There no basis for comparison. They have all the infrastructure in place to facilitate their learning, practicals, and others. Of course, they are enjoying the value of what they pay for.
In Nigeria, little to no apparatus even for practical. Poor studying environment. We are also getting what we paid for. C'est finni

perdollar:
me as a native doctor dey travel to India soon

Safe journey

ahiboilandgas:
u see your just luv money but dont know how to generate it ....who uses salary to establish a business or hospitals ?....u design a bussiness plan that is bankanble and get investor or bank to fiance it ...some Indian group just built a massive hospital in kano like while Turkish hospitals.....the Nigeria doctors are just bucnch of lazy ass greedy group that can reason beyond salary and migration...

If only it is that easy as you type for foreigners to invest in Nigeria. When even our politicians are not ready to invest in Nigeria, you expect a foreigner too in a dead country?

The few foreign hospitals we have in Nigeria. A comfortable family cannot afford to treat malaria there.

ahiboilandgas:
My friend and entrepreneurs doctor run a mega diagnotic centres with mri machines etc opp a teaching hospital ranks in millions ever month....he even granted 200m by bank of industry to import some equipment ....he currently have over 4 standard digonotic centre ...and wil never migrate unless for vacation.....greedy doctor are too blind to see ....indian are establishing such centre a single ananlysis can cost 60k ....while they busy talking of plabs and strikes ......doctors and lawyers are skilled ...u can create your own employments and earn your dream pay....

So all the doctors in Nigeria should open a diagnostic center like your friend abi? Clap for yourself. You are a great thinker

I think greedy ,tax funds trained Nigeria doctor should also be trained in medical entrepreneurship so that the money inspired doctors can know how to establish medical business ....mega hospitala build by indian doctor to bring down cost ....a transplant cost 100k dollars...indian doctors have found a way to bring it down to 25000 dollars ....using economy of scale ....americans go to indian for surgey.....greedy ever striking Nigeria doctors with 200m people market and west africa markets cannot think.....instead turkish doctors are coming to establish mega hospitals in Abuja and kano and earning big money ....

frog12:
Is that not what GREEDY DOCTORS are doing running away from the PROBLEM?

Have you seriously seen the academic schedule and classes of your overseas peers BEFORE complaining of how difficult it is?
There are some European universities where you have intake of 40, and only half finish. The others drop out. So this is universal everywhere. Medical standards must be HIGH, so you don't have substandard care. The SELFISH people here are DOCTORS.

TELL US the salary expenditures, you no fit do. You are giving your relatives all your MONEY, AND then you complain that the salary is not enough while the PATIENT dey die.

They are running away from the problem because there are people like you that can slove it

frog12:
Is that not what GREEDY DOCTORS are doing running away from the PROBLEM?

Have you seriously seen the academic schedule and classes of your overseas peers BEFORE complaining of how difficult it is?
There are some European universities where you have intake of 40, and only half finish. The others drop out. So this is universal everywhere. Medical standards must be HIGH, so you don't have substandard care. The SELFISH people here are DOCTORS.

TELL US the salary expenditures, you no fit do. You are giving your relatives all your MONEY, AND then you complain that the salary is not enough while the PATIENT dey die.

Okay, pray tell. What can they do to tackle the problem?

I want to hear you opinions Sir.
If you think a 200k salary is Okay. I don't intend to further my argument on that.
Thats ur opinion.

Wizedoc:
Safe journey

tnx chief

ahiboilandgas:
I think greedy ,tax funds trained Nigeria doctor should also be trained in medical entrepreneurship so that the money inspired doctors can know how to establish medical business ....mega hospitala build by indian doctor to bring down cost ....a transplant cost 100k dollars...indian doctors have found a way to bring it down to 25000 dollars ....using economy of scale ....americans go to indian for surgey.....greedy ever striking Nigeria doctors with 200m people market and west africa markets cannot think.....instead turkish doctors are coming to establish mega hospitals in Abuja and kano and earning big money ....

If it is because doctors can not think that is why they are wanted in the US and UK, then allow them not to think and go to where they can be accepted without a thinking head. Thank you

TheManofTomorrow:


If only it is that easy as you type for foreigners to invest in Nigeria. When even our politicians are not ready to invest in Nigeria, you expect a foreigner too in a dead country?

The few foreign hospitals we have in Nigeria. A comfortable family cannot afford to treat malaria there.

u are cofused ..15 bn dollars lekki deep sea ,10bn dollars eko Atlantic, 13 bn dangote refinary, 1bn dollara oriental refinary...and several more are investemnt by fdi and fpi into Nigeria ....Nigeria got the seconds highest fdi in africa over 100bn dollars annually......their is live outside mbbs and cramming,cram ...open your mind dont let mbbs and salary limit your thinkings ....

I assume you are from the Indomie generation. Do you know what that means, besides eating Indomie every hour. They talk before they think.

The country may be in bad condition. But for DOCTORS to escape when they are needed the MOST in a disease outbreak, is like putting more petrol into fire. You still haven't answered my question. Give us a breakdown of the 200k salary.

Working in an impoverished condition means, the doctors are not working together with their CMDs. They are supposed to improve the conditions themselves with even little help from government. There was a report in the newspaper as how Gbagada general hospital has been overtaken by excreta everywhere. You are Kings of Excreta hospitals. You seat there and avoid improving your conditions.

The place they are migrating to, were managed by the DOCTORS over there. Not until you work with OVERSEAS DOCTORS, You will never understand.. This is the problem of nigerian doctors and politicians. They all think they are KINGS without looking beyond. You think your studies is complicated but you have not studied with others.

I studied with DOCTORS! Anatomy was very complicated but you must CRAM everything! You think you are the only one? You deserved to be treated like a KING!

That is the problem. Working with young NIgerian doctors and the arrogant attitude will DRIVE you from them. They think they are GOD!

TheManofTomorrow:


Are you okay with the way Nigeria is at the moment?
If not, what do you think is the solution?

How are they supposed to make a better life? By collecting a 200k salary or working in impoverished conditions?

The place they are migrating to isn't devoid of challenges, too, but those are sane challenges. Not the kind we have in Nigeria.

I don't need to compare. There no basis for comparison. They have all the infrastructure in place to facilitate their learning, practicals, and others. Of course, they are enjoying the value of what they pay for.
In Nigeria, little to no apparatus even for practical. Poor studying environment. We are also getting what we paid for. C'est finni

Wizedoc:
If it is because doctors can not think that is why they are wanted in the US and UK, then allow them not to think and go to where they can be accepted without a thinking head. Thank you

they only think of salary and politicians pay ...

ahiboilandgas:
u see your just luv money but dont know how to generate it ....who uses salary to establish a business or hospitals ?....u design a bussiness plan that is bankanble and get investor or bank to fiance it ...some Indian group just built a massive hospital in kano like while Turkish hospitals.....the Nigeria doctors are just bucnch of lazy ass greedy group that can reason beyond salary and migration...

I av ds strong feeling that you are a medical school drop out. did u dropout from d plane too?

hhahahahahahah. Then they don't have brain. Push them to treat CORONA VIRUS itself.

Wizedoc:
They are running away from the problem because there are people like you that can slove it

TheManofTomorrow:


Okay, pray tell. What can they do to tackle the problem?

I want to hear you opinions Sir.
If you think a 200k salary is Okay. I don't intend to further my argument on that.
Thats ur opinion.

pray to get the 200k job first.......let a 200k vancany be published by luth let see how many will queue up......how even passed their licensenig exams less than 50 percent.....na cram cram...

perdollar:
I av ds strong feeling that you are a medical school drop out. did u dropout from d plane too?

tranditional medical school u sabi that one ...