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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 5:54pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
bloodofthelamb: LIAR ![]() Hebrew 7069 , Hebrew Qanah ![]() Bros, what's the meaning of Hebrew 7069 in Genesis14:19,22, Proverbs8:22, Genesis4:1, and Psalms 139:13?
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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 5:56pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: Why not answer this one before asking for answers to another person's question? ![]() The Bible said Messiah will reign forever and it also gave a tenure of 1,000 years, so please let's know what you have to say first! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 6:10pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
@solite3 Do you need help in solving the riddle? ![]() Messiah reign forever! Isaiah 9:6 Messiah reign forever 1,000 years! Revelations 20:1-3 I know you can never attempt such deep things because the understanding of all these sacred secrets is given to Jehovah's Witnesses only! Daniel 12:10 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 6:46pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: OK let's go all humble Bible students! 1,000 Years! Jesus will reign for 1,000 years because at that time he would have destroyed all false religionsists who refused to bow to his rules {Luke 19:27} arrest Satan and his demons, and imprison them {Revelations 20:1-3} so throughout the earth only pure worship (Jehovah's Witnesses Organization) will exist. So for the next 1,000 years there will be no false religions to cause any distractions again, only the preaching and teaching for PEACE will be here on earth. That's why God's word said He will reign for 1,000 years since all distractions from false religionsists, atheists and agnostics are no more! Forever! It's the legacy that Jesus laid down we will all continue with forever, just as Adam supposed to be our father who will teach us how to get closer to our heavenly father, but rather chose to die by disobeying God. Jesus will replace Adam as our new father but he will last forever and what he taught us will be useful in serving God for all eternity. That's why Isaiah could refer to him as our Everlasting Father who will replace our former dead Father (Adam) and Prince of Peace through whose teachings we will have abundance of PEACE! Isaiah 9:6-7 compare to Psalms 37:11 ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 6:50pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69:Did you answer my previous question? 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 6:53pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69:Where was it written that Jesus will reign for only one thousand years? |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:06pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky:Clear case of "a thief calling another a thief" Bara' is the Hebrew word for create and it is what was use in the creation account. Gen1:1- In the beginning God created (bara) the heavens and the earth. Gen1:21- And God created (bara) great whales and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundant. Gen 1:27- So God created (bara) man in his own image, in the image of God he created(bara) him: male and female he created (bara) them. A "created " interpretation of Qanah is based on false suppositions. The closest meaning of the word Qanah is acquire, buy, purchase and posssess. The word can in sense mean 'create' or 'make' but is never the closest. Note how the word Qanah is used in other passages... Gen 4:1_And Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived and bare Cain and said, I have gotten(Qanah) a man from the Lord. Gen25:10_ The field which Abraham purchased(Qanah) of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife. Gen14:19_ And he blessed him and said: Blessed be Abram of the most high God possessor(Qanah) of heaven and earth. If actually the writer was implying that wisdom was created by God he would have used "Bara" instead of Qanah " 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:09pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: You make me laugh, First of all, Jesus' kingdom will last forever meaning Jesus will continue to be king forever. Luke 1:33 and He will reign over the house of Jacob forever, and His kingdom will have no end Secondly, there is nothing like Jehovah witness organisation in the bible, so I dont know where the jargons you are saying is coming from. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:11pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky:Clear case of "a thief calling another a thief." Bara' is the Hebrew word for create and it is what was use in the creation account. Gen1:1- In the beginning God created (bara) the heavens and the earth. Gen1:21- And God created (bara) great whales and every living creature that moves, which the waters brought forth abundant. Gen 1:27- So God created (bara) man in his own image, in the image of God he created(bara) him: male and female he created (bara) them. A "created " interpretation of Qanah is based on false suppositions. The closest meaning of the word Qanah is acquire, buy, gotten, purchase and posssess. The word can in a sense mean 'create' or 'make' but it is never the closest. Note how the word Qanah is used in other passages... Gen 4:1_And Adam knew Eve his wife and she conceived and bare Cain and said, I have gotten(Qanah) a man from the Lord. Gen25:10_ The field which Abraham purchased(Qanah) of the sons of Heth: there was Abraham buried, and Sarah his wife. Gen14:19_ And he blessed him and said: Blessed be Abram of the most high God possessor(Qanah) of heaven and earth. If actually the writer was implying that wisdom was created by God he would have used "Bara" instead of Qanah ". This controversy wouldn't have arise for centuries now. It is common sense. The word Qanah in Proverb 8:22 means "possess" and not "create" 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 7:14pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3:Bros Maximus69, pls school this Triune pagan deity devotee, if only he would learn ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 7:16pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
bloodofthelamb: WAYO man, Bara, Yalad are not the only Hebrew language word for "Create" No dey DECEIVE yourself ![]() ![]() The question resurfaces again: Bros, what's the meaning of Hebrew 7069 in Genesis14:19,22, Proverbs8:22, Genesis4:1, and Psalms 139:13?
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Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:23pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky:zombie, hide in shame |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:24pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: You're arguing fruitlessly over the THEORY when you haven't gotten the PRACTICAL APPLICATIONS! ![]() Why not present a performing group where there is PEACE amongst them before thinking of how to refute what is already working out before your very eyes? You unbeliever! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:27pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky:Na today, I know your type and your antics. Always using emoji to hide in shame and deceit. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:28pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
![]() Maximus69:yes I am an unbeliever in your clownish pagan organisation and her lies. But a believer in Jesus, God the father and the holy Spirit. You and other lie lie witness must be exposed. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by bloodofthelamb(m): 7:33pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky:everyone knows I answered you. Keep on twisting and turning things upside down just as your GB translated "And the Word was God" to "And the Word is a god." John 1:1 |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:35pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: First of all why must Jesus reign in the first place? That should help you to know why the Bible talks of 1,000 years! Revelations 20:1-7 ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 7:37pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3:#1 WAYO man, ![]() Rev3:21, the Son says he sits on his Father's throne (compare 1 Chro29:23 and Luke 1:31-33. Matthew 28:18). Deal with it. #2 2 Chronicle 7:14 "And my people who are called by my name (Jehovah)" (Compare Acts 15:14 , the People selected for Jehovah''s name) "Shimeon has related to you how God began to choose from the Gentiles a people for his name.” Bros , what's the meaning of Hebrew 5971 and Greek 2992? Jehovah's people= Jehovah's Organization. Solite3, Acts15:14 & 2 Chro7:14 is in your Bible. Remove am from your brain, your heart and continue to deceive yourself ![]() ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:56pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: You will know the truth and the truth will set you free! Luke 8:32 Don't worry everyone can see the one and only organization of PEACE LOVING pagans! Matthew 7:16-18 ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:56pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69:crap! Where is it written that Jesus will reign for only one thousand years? |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 7:59pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: Why must he reign in the first place? ![]() You're just giving us the privilege of exposing your ignorance coupled with arrogance! Jesus doesn't need to reign at all if Adam didn't bring us into this condition, we wouldn't have known Jesus at all in the first place because Adam would have served as a good father and laid down a legacy for all his descendants so that all of us can serve God faithfully! Jesus came into the scene because we need a perfect human soul to redeem us from sin and death. So for Michael (Jesus) to have volunteered himself, he must train mankind for 1,000 years without distractions from Satan, demons and their human agents like you! That's the import of the thousand years! ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 8:01pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69:so says a liar. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 8:03pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: Your question is meaningless. It's like asking why a king should reign? |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 8:09pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: Petrol don finish for tank! Matthew 25:8 Speak now if you truly have wisdom regarding sacred secrets! Daniel 12:10 ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 8:10pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
bloodofthelamb: WAYO man, according to your fictitious claim, Genesis 14:19,22, shebi Yahweh did not create heaven and earth, he just possessed them. Psalms 139:13, Shebi Yahweh did not create Eve's womb and kidneys, Yahweh just possessed them.. Common, vamoose from here ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 8:15pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky:what are you saying ![]() #2point out from the bible where Jesus disciples where called Jehovah's witness. Jesus is God's name if you dont know. ![]() Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: The name used for baptizing is Jesus Acts 8:16 (For as yet he was fallen upon none of them: only they were baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus.) Acts 1:8 But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth. Jesus witness or Jehovah witness? Jesus said his disciples will witness for him. Your organisation is not of Jesus Christ because it does not witness for Jesus but claim to witness for somebody else. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Nobody: 8:16pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69:Lie lie maximus, in johnw words. 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 8:19pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Maximus69: Luke 1:31-33 Jesus will sit on the throne of King David , his human ancestor. 1 Chro29:23, king Solomon sits on David's throne. David's throne is Jehovah's throne. Rev3:21 , solve the maths oh ye Triune pagan deity devotees ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Janosky: 8:20pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3:Acts15:14 ,is in your Bible, if you like remove it from your heart and your brain . You dey DECEIVE yourself WAYO man, can you pls Explain John 17:6,26. John15:15? ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by bloodofthelamb(m): 8:40pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky: If possessor is too big for you to understand, let me break it down for you. The synonym of "possessor" is "owner." In the case of Gen14:19,22 Abram was right, God is the possessor(owner)(Qanah) of heaven and earth because He created (bara) it. But in the case of Proverb 8:22 God possess(owns)(Qanah) wisdom from time immorial, or should I say before time began, not that He created(bara) it before owning (Qanah) it. Now run along! 1 Like |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by Csonice1: 8:46pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
Janosky: U like Repeating baseless argument. We all understand the difference between "God" and "god" even though they have the same spelling. It's true. Only a child will find it hard to differentiate. [I would have laughed if it were another topic that we're discussing. ] ELOHIM "of" elohim [God of gods] is who I'm talking about. Secondly, I don't really find it funny when people doubt the authenticity of the scriptures. It happens that any biased human being can just doubt any verse that doesn't suit him; don't be surprised that some theologians are atheists- you are heading towards that direction if care is not taken. |
Re: Do You Subscribe To The Doctrine Of Trinity? If "Yes", Take This Challenge! by DappaD: 8:46pm On Aug 29, 2020 |
solite3: Hold on, Mr solite3 let's use common sense here. Zedekiah was the last king of Jehovah's earthly kingdom, right? So after the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem and the tenure of the king of Judah was cut short, what did Jehovah say would happen? Ezekiel 21:26-27 “This is what the Sovereign Lord Jehovah says: ‘Remove the turban, and take off the crown. This will not remain the same. Raise up the low one, and bring low the high one. A ruin, a ruin, a ruin I[Jehovah] will make it. And it will not belong to anyone until the one who has the legal right comes, and I will give it [the crown/his Kingdom] to him. ’” Did Jehovah God say he will assume Kingship immediately? No, he said that another king will occupy his throne and who is this one who has the legal right? Luke 1:32-33 answers for us “This one will be great and will be called Son of the Most High, and Jehovah God will give him[Jesus] the throne of David his father , and he will rule as King over the house of Jacob forever, and there will be no end to his Kingdom .”” God had earlier told his prophets—David, Isaiah, Jeremiah, Ezekiel, Daniel, Hosea, Amos, Micah—men who never saw each other face to face and lived in different time periods—that an offspring from the line of David would come up to be king in the Kingdom set out by Jehovah in the heavens(Daniel 2:44) See 2Samuel 7:12, Psalm 2:2, 139:11, Isaiah 9:6,7, 11:1-10, Jeremiah 23:5, 30:9, Ezekiel 34:23,24, 37:24,25, Daniel 7:13-14, Hosea 3:5, Amos 9:11, Micah 5:2-6 How long is Jesus to rule? Revelation 20:1-5 answers that for us. Jesus Christ along with the spiritual Israel—the 144,000 firstfruits bought from mankind are to rule with Jesus and occupy leadership for 1000years. During that time, he will fully dispense the benefits of the ransom to obedient mankind and gradually raise them to perfection. That's why that verse 5 said “The rest of the dead did not come to life until the 1,000 years were ended.” That is, the rest of those who have died throughout history would have resurrected prior to the end of the 1000years and then at the end of the millennium, they would finally be perfect in all respects—death being a thing of the past(Isaiah 25:8, 1Corinthians 15:26, Revelation 21:1-4). The rebellious “sea” of humans and the wicked would have been eliminated then and some sent to the ‘lake of fire’ which signifies total annihilation/destruction(Psalms 37:10, 104:35, Proverbs 2:22, Matthew 25:41,46, 2Peter 2:9,3:7, Revelation 21:8 ) But the Bible does reveal one thing though—and that's from the inspired writings of Paul. After the 1000years are ended, Jesus[Michael, only begotten Son of God] would hand over the Kingdom to his God and Father, Jehovah God. 1Corinthians 15:24-28 “Next, the end, when he[Jesus] hands over the Kingdom to his God and Father, when he has brought to nothing all government and all authority and power. For he must rule as king until God has put all enemies under his feet. And the last enemy, death, is to be brought to nothing. For God “subjected all things under his feet.” But when he says that ‘all things have been subjected,’ it is evident that this does not include the One who subjected all things to him. But when all things will have been subjected to him, then the Son himself will also subject himself to the One who subjected all things to him, that God may be all things to everyone ” When the Scriptures says the Kingdom would last forever, it means that it won't be passed over to any other person except to the One who gave it to Jesus in the first place—Jehovah God! ![]() |
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