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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 11:31pm On Sep 04, 2020 |
boay: I disagree too. North America use Building, Cost or Construction Estimator, specifically not the term Engineer or Engineering (see first screen shot for reasons) for job duties exactly as that of a QS. Look at the professional organizations; UK: Royal Institution of Chartered Surveyors US: American Society of Professional Estimators Nigeria: Nigeria Institute of Quantity Surveyors QS/Construction Estimator is not an engineering degree. Cost Engineering also known as Project control engineering on the other hand is an Engineering degree and its duties is not just providing a cost estimate but also determining profitability or usefulness of the investment and the comparative options hence the Evaluation in the BEME. The evaluation is what differenciates a BOQ to a BEME. I first heard BEME in class, a civil engineering class and answered test and exam questions on it. Something that is part of the curriculum could not have been coined in Nigeria by Nigerian engineers or my lecturer for the benefit of Nigerian engineers. This is not a contest bro. I am aware of the role of a QS and I am aware of my limits as regards your professional roles. Some of these roles of a QS cannot be done by even a Cost Engineer that bears so much resemblance to QS. For example, Contract Management, Contract Laws, contract bids and tenders etc, these duties are not done by even cost engineers. You really need to calm down and look your profession over, donot limit yourself to quantities and cost, there are no duplication of roles when it comes to the difference between Cost Engineering and Quantity surveying. This rivalry you seem to have developed has no basis simply because you just feel threatened by a similar but otherwise very different profession that you don't seem to understand. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 11:43pm On Sep 04, 2020 |
DaBogu: I'm not in Lagos. I am not a valuer by profession, so can't value the property meaningfully. However, you know the property. From what I can see, the property is on a solid typical African laterite soil. I may be wrong as some contributors see the property as situated in a swamp. Is this true? I see water but that's just aftermath of rainfall. True? Just stagnant water after rainfall. If the soil is not a swamp, don't sell out of frustration. If the soil is a swamp, don't panic and sell. It is a bungalow. Any structural issues can be solved easily with bungalows. Single storey buildings like bungalows are no big issues. With a bit of careful planning and DIY research any issue can be solved easily. Don't panic. If you must sell, start with the value of the land. How much would same size land sell in the area today plus how much would reasonably bring the bungalow to this stage then subtract the " marriage value" What is "marriage value" ? For example, if you bought the land for 500k, but it is worth 1million today. The land has gone up by 500k. The "marriage value" is 50% of the gain in value. So to a buyer, the land with the troubled building on it is worth 750k. You give 50% of the gain to buyers as an incentive to buy. Do same with the building. So if way back then 1 million will bring the building to its present state, but will cost 2 million today, the gain in value is 1 million. Give 50% to buyers as "marriage value", so the building is worth 1.5m to a reasonable buyer. So 750k + 1.5m = N2, 250,000. This is the value a reasonable buyer will value the property. This is valuable information on where to fix the sale price and where negotiation should begin. This is not physical science as people can buy properties out of pure emotions and may be ready to pay more or less. It is just one of numerous methods to do a fire sale. 12 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 11:58pm On Sep 04, 2020 |
boay: Check your type of business and see if its construction. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 12:13am On Sep 05, 2020 |
I have never seen a ceiling fan installed on pop before. Considering the nature of ceiling fan(little shaking and vibration), I think it will crack the pip with time. sako28: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kimiwa: 3:10am On Sep 05, 2020 |
QSFemi: I'm grateful Sir. Deeply. But is this for a shed roof design or another roof design? I want to be very sure. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:27am On Sep 05, 2020 |
n3xt:I can't help but feel encouraged by this too 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:34am On Sep 05, 2020 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:41am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Kimiwa: Shed. The same type of roof in the picture you shared. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kimiwa: 6:01am On Sep 05, 2020 |
n3xt: Thanks Sir. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:13am On Sep 05, 2020 |
DIY Pier/Pillar Cap & Concrete Sphere Update I did some trials over the week and they were excellent. Here are the things used for this project: - Pier/Pillar Cap Mold (newly fabricated) - Concrete Sphere Mold (newly fabricated) - Belle 130l electric mixer - DIY Concrete Vibrator for small forms using my sander machine. This worked excellently. - Sand - Cement - Granite - Wire gauze to reinforce the form - 8mm iron rod https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eXrt6ffUXRA Prolonged mixing increases the temperature of concrete so it’s good to pour the concrete as soon as it’s fine. Note: It’s important to time construction projects right so that temperatures are not too warm when pouring concrete. We poured the second trial late evening and planned to put shade cloth over it during the day to keep it out of direct sunlight. Pic 1: Concrete Sphere Mold Pic 2: First pier/pillar cap trial after 12 hours Pic 3: Concrete Sphere on pedestal Right now, we are waiting till next Monday to demold the pier cap and the concrete sphere. ___ If this comes out well, next weekend I’ll be working on how to mass produce the project. If you’re a DIY hobbyist or owner-builder, please consider keeping or having a 110l or 130l electric mixer on your project, it gives you better concrete mix. I’ve had this one for over 9 years and I’ve never had to repair it. I use it for mortar mix, precast concretes, and other applications during my DIY projects. So many things are possible as long as you don't know they’re impossible. - Mildred D. Taylor #BrabusDIY 4 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 6:17am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Chekitaut:In Lekki what supplier do is if you want 20tons @55k they load 10tons sand @25k road expenses@1500, the rest goes for transport. If you call for 5trip at onces 1st trip will be 13tons others will be 7.5tons drop it on each other you will see them same size but you are simply ripped off. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:30am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Chekitaut: That’s why I will buy another dump truck. I sha cannot come and be paying money to transporter and say I’m building a house and yet getting ripped. My truck load what I ask it to load for me. Pic 2 shows what 30 tons of sand look like on my site and the cost to me is almost nothing. Chekitaut, no pun intended. I’m just been realistic here. Disclaimer _____ Pls don’t go and fight your supplier o. I cannot pay much hence the reason I bought truck to keep my expenses low. I don’t do paper calculations only, I put whatever I say into work. Instead of buying a site pickup/truck, I’d rather buy a dump truck and save big. I observed a lot of people read my posts but don’t do what I do and expect the same result. ![]()
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 6:48am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Kimiwa: Good morning sir..let me handle the roofing part biko meanwhile check here for the current prices of my woods https://www.nairaland.com/4103704/get-timber-plank-roofing-cheaper |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:49am On Sep 05, 2020 |
earthrealm: I’m using a C90 Plate Compactor - 5.5hp Robin Petrol engine - Weight 125kg Good for most residential projects (foundation, landscaping small plots etc). I don’t have closer pic of the compactor but here’s a short video while using it on a project. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekzcFwqPcLg Edit: Just added an online image #brabusinterlockDIY 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DaBogu: 6:54am On Sep 05, 2020 |
diordaves:Thank you Sir for your input. I think it's is an African laterite soil. The property is located in Bayeku in Igbogbo area of Ikorodu. Can I have your mail?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 7:22am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Abolarin91:I have done it before you just have to attach the hook properly 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 7:25am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Good morning. It's for a monopitch design, flat roof. I see you address it as shed roof but it's actually a monopitch or flat roof. Kimiwa: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Dennis3D(m): 7:39am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Abolarin91: I just did one recently. It doesn't have any effect on POP If it's done well. POP doesn't carry ceiling fan. Only the fan hook on decking or on wall pate or roof beam does. See picture below. Did this on a 25yr old building recently just two weeks ago. See my thread for full project pictures... 6 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 7:52am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Apologies ... it's the norm in Nigeria . Apologies n3xt: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Kimiwa: 8:03am On Sep 05, 2020 |
QSFemi: You're a blessing. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Timtol(m): 8:05am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:18am On Sep 05, 2020 |
KIDfurniture: Respect sir. I duff my hat for you. I definitely understand the naija factor and our herd mentality but I still believe that we have some great people in Nigeria. “Tendering an open apology” is a great virtue of strong men. I respect you for that. I recently expressed interest in a contract well worth some tens of million. I was doing this on behalf of one of my tradespeople (an illiterate guy) who cannot safely compete with other bidders. The owner of the project asked me if I’m a middle man. I just smile and told him “I love helping people doing good job but can’t really express themself out there. I just want to throw my weight behind him and nothing more.” I only helped him to cross the ‘t’s’ and dot the ‘i’s’ In the process, I’ve shown him how to prepare a winning bid, present and every other thing in between. A lot of people are loosing out on opportunities not because they’re not good/skillful but because they lack what it takes to compete in the real world. If I have seen farther than others, it is by standing on the shoulder of giants. ~ Isaac Newton 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 8:30am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Ur a lie and i cant banter words with u . Simple . At first I thought i was the only one seeing ur perfectionist part of the all knowing world wide granite seller with d right quantity laced with exorbitant price . No granite seller gives good price except u. Ur sharp sand is the highest i hv heard of 30tons for 75k . Oga jeje ooo. I pity those who dont do their due diligence Chekitaut: 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 8:49am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Thanks Oga . Pls any carpenter that can do good job as i will like to get cost and compare with different carpenters before giving out d job . n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Enyinne(f): 8:55am On Sep 05, 2020 |
No pity party . U didnt do me wrong rather am pointing out d obvious . Stop talking down on every discussion about how others get lesser quantity and being cheated . Face ur location as i bet u cant be everywhere at same time . Ur lagos based and cant give accurate price about any location each passing day and week . Chekitaut: 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:57am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Enyinne: The same guy can recommend a carpenter. I love using the same team for my roofing project. It saves lot of headaches and blame game. “Na carpenter’s responsibility” “Na roofer suppose do am.” If you understand what I mean as owner-builder. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:10am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Dennis3D: Nice � 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Johntemmy(m): 9:15am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Enyinne: you can contact me for carpenter ma I'll give you a professional one from my team to compare and contrast for the best option thanks. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 9:34am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Respect sir.. you're right we shouldnt generalize all the time. I want to know you better... if you dont mind. n3xt: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 9:35am On Sep 05, 2020 |
Respect sir.. you're right we shouldnt generalize all the time. I want to know you better... if you dont mind. n3xt: 1 Like |
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