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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by etibaba(m): 10:32am On Sep 05, 2020
kikero:


Secundus is actually a legit name

Comes from Latin, and used by the Ancient Romans to name a second male child.

And Heineken isn't a legit name? The case here is that those names are very uncommon here.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Thunderblasts(m): 10:32am On Sep 05, 2020
My student's Surname that year was fynface and she actually had a fine face. God help those people!
They seem lost.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Nobody: 10:32am On Sep 05, 2020
Saao:
don't forget, Niger deltan sold Nigeria to colonialists, serious enough same people selling our sovereignty to China. Niger deltans embrace and romance with west than any region. Don't forget ph was named by Lord Lugard sidechick.

Nigeria coming under colonial rule mostly happened by

1. Conquest or by

2. Treaties (a traditional ruler would sign a treaty accepting British protection. Sometimes these treaties were obtained under dubious methods, and I'll leave it at that).

No tribe sold any tribe to Lugard. Considering that many Nigerians at the time of colonization and even as late as 1960 did not know any other part of Nigeria save their village and maybe the neighborhood region

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by slimiyke(m): 10:33am On Sep 05, 2020
Does it mean they can't trace their ancestral root even after the western invasion through colonialism? How can a certain set of people completely lost a sense of ancestral identification?

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Ladiesdoctor(m): 10:34am On Sep 05, 2020
There is nothing about it......those bearing the names are anus lickers.
Shikena.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by dreu2fine(m): 10:34am On Sep 05, 2020
MrOjay1:
I've noticed the for a long time now that many Rivers state indigenes bear westernized surnames like Blankson, Douglas, Perricosta, Souza, Graham, Peterson, McColumbus, etc.

I have seen indigenes of Rivers who bear the above listed surnames alongside other ones too numerous to mention.Was there any kind of foreign culture influx in Rivers State that influenced these surnames?? Or have they just been bearing these kind of surnames right from inception?

I need opinions on this.
in bayelsa also,
Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by BananaPeel(m): 10:35am On Sep 05, 2020
oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, but it didn't make the indigenes throw away their origin.
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They didn't throwaway their origin but only adopted names due to difficulty in pronunciation. Warri isn't left out too. if they threw away their origin they would have been living like the whites, but that is not the case.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Nobody: 10:35am On Sep 05, 2020
etibaba:
And Heineken isn't a legit name? The case here is that those names are very uncommon here.

Apart from Secundus, the names are all funky so to speak

Especially Heineken ( I wonder why that senator has not changed that his name, and what was his father thinking?)

Still it isn't peculiar to ijawland, once saw a Zimbabwean being interviewed for a general documentary on African history. His name; Tournament Musawa.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Spiff20(m): 10:35am On Sep 05, 2020
There is West, Brown, Green, Yellowe, Hart, Douglas, Graham, Pepple and I'm Spiff. Thanks to European influence.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by prigoz(m): 10:36am On Sep 05, 2020
Some also bear the name as result of the parents ie some of them were fathered by foreigners, I got this info through the indigenous people.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by UniportAgbero: 10:36am On Sep 05, 2020
RedboneSmith:


The first people who come in long and sustained contact with white people in most non-European countries always end up bearing the largest burden of cultural erosion from white people.

Very apt!
I'm an Ijaw man and have also noticed this. Okrika is the westernized version of Wakirike, Bonny is the anglicized version of the native Ibani, Opobo likweise is from Opubo.

In okrika, you have families bearing George, etc. In Kalabari, you have Harry, Bob-manuel, Briggs, Yellowe, Princewill. In Bonny, you have Jumbo, Manilla, Finecountry, Brown, Peterside, etc.

It's all a rob-off of a long and entagling relationship with the early europeans.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Mistakemaker: 10:36am On Sep 05, 2020
oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.
The Onitsha people quite know their origin, so they maintained it

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Guide777(m): 10:36am On Sep 05, 2020
codemaniacs:


colonial mentality and self hate is what caused it.

just like MelesZenawi has said, they threw away their native names.

it has nothing to do with trade, as the br:itish were more interested in wiping off and subjugating the indigenous populations rather than helping them.



for lagos names, the british brought black brazilians and other people of African descent from the American continent to replace the indigenous lagos population. it could be the same with the ijaw, igbos and some people from south south.

even Samuel Ajayi Crowther was not Yoruba, the british just added ajayi to deceive the yorubas in lagos.
really?
Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Openbusiness: 10:37am On Sep 05, 2020
MrOjay1:



i have always thought it was the yorubas(the ones living in Lagos) that first came in contact with the Europeans.

And the Europeans also lived long in YorubaLand(Lagos) before permeating other regions.

They stayed long enough in Lagos to establish the first mission school(Badagry and CMS)...so why weren't their surnames influenced?
Some Southwest surnames were influenced too. You will find them with surnames such as Thomas, George, Mann, Rhodes etc. But true, most Southwesterners didn't adopt colonial surnames. They mostly adopted first or middle names.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by etibaba(m): 10:37am On Sep 05, 2020
kikero:


Apart from Secundus, the names are all funky so to speak

Especially Heineken ( I wonder why that senator has not changed that his name, and what was his father thinking?)

Still it isn't peculiar to ijawland, once saw a Zimbabwean being interviewed for a general documentary on African history. His name; Tournament Musawa.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Esji80(m): 10:39am On Sep 05, 2020
mamaafrik:
oil palm,slaves,coal,rubber etc
Ok, but slave trade was abolished since early .18th Century now
Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Nobody: 10:39am On Sep 05, 2020
The major reasons for colonising the well cultured brown skinned with their names are for easy pronunciation and identification so as to create easy connection and relationship.. Same way it was influenced in African Church by the early missionaries in terms of baptismal names..

They found it difficult pronouncing our native names, so they ended up giving us their names for easy process and flow of inter communal relationship, NOT BECAUSE IT IS A COMMAND FROM GOD, except that the name is ungodly.. Reason, most African Christians are brainwashed for change of well meaning native names to the colonials' during/after baptism.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by UniportAgbero: 10:39am On Sep 05, 2020
oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.


see your sef?

How can Europeans that came using ships leave the coasts of Niger Delta and navigate all the way to Onitsha that isn't a coastal town before coming down to Niger Delta centuries later?
Just asking!

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Tajbol4splend(m): 10:39am On Sep 05, 2020
etibaba:
Rivers and Bayelsa state have really funny names and surnames sha. Heineken, lyon, Manager, Suffernomore, Inspector, Advantage, not forgetting the chairman of a political party "Secondus".



Lol

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Exmilitant(m): 10:40am On Sep 05, 2020
MrOjay1:
I've noticed the for a long time now that many Rivers state indigenes bear westernized surnames like Blankson, Douglas, Perricosta, Souza, Graham, Peterson, McColumbus, etc.

I have seen indigenes of Rivers who bear the above listed surnames alongside other ones too numerous to mention.Was there any kind of foreign culture influx in Rivers State that influenced these surnames?? Or have they just been bearing these kind of surnames right from inception?

I need opinions on this.
The riverain people of rivers, delta and bayelsa were slaves enroute to the americas in the late seventeenth century they were freed by the british navy in the atlantic and dumped in those locations. The british gave them those names as means of identification. Overtime, a common language was developed among them. Bonny, calabari, engenni, nembe, brass, itsekiri, okrika, ogbia, and the ijaws. Although, some of them are outcast and renegades from igbos. Igbos calls them Olu.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by codemaniacs: 10:41am On Sep 05, 2020
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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by kikake: 10:41am On Sep 05, 2020
MelesZenawi:



They threw away their fathers name just to be like Europe but still they don't behave like europeans..

Are there militants in london?

but u will find many here.


In the Uk, people of Scotland do not pretend that the wealth on the soil of London is Scottish wealth; Scots can’t even take it as commonwealth.

There is fiscal federalism in the Uk.
Areas use wealth in their places to develop their areas, then pay tax to the central government.

No militants in the UK.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by juman(m): 10:43am On Sep 05, 2020
It shows there was one time having foreign surname was in vogue and highly respected in their communities.

So most people there followed the pattern.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by onward4life(m): 10:43am On Sep 05, 2020
MrOjay1:
I've noticed the for a long time now that many Rivers state indigenes bear westernized surnames like Blankson, Douglas, Perricosta, Souza, Graham, Peterson, McColumbus, etc.

I have seen indigenes of Rivers who bear the above listed surnames alongside other ones too numerous to mention.Was there any kind of foreign culture influx in Rivers State that influenced these surnames?? Or have they just been bearing these kind of surnames right from inception?

I need opinions on this.

because of d baggas in them
Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by oneeast3: 10:43am On Sep 05, 2020
UniportAgbero:



see your sef?

How can Europeans that came using ships leave the coasts of Niger Delta and navigate all the way to Onitsha that isn't a coastal town before coming down to Niger Delta centuries later?
Just asking!

Show me one college or even church in Rivers state that is older than DMGS, CKC or QRS all in Onitsha. These colleges were established by the British in Onitsha because they actually settled down in Onitsha, something they never did in Rivers except using coastline for movement of slaves trade. They never established anything in the present day Niger delta like they did in Onitsha. Why?

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by iykejackchree: 10:43am On Sep 05, 2020
oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.

Stop talking about things you don't have any knowledge on, which Onitsha, The Europeans came through the hinterland and settled with the locals first, does Onitsha have have sea or ocean?

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by KingsArome(m): 10:44am On Sep 05, 2020
MrOjay1:
I've noticed the for a long time now that many Rivers state indigenes bear westernized surnames like Blankson, Douglas, Perricosta, Souza, Graham, Peterson, McColumbus, etc.

I have seen indigenes of Rivers who bear the above listed surnames alongside other ones too numerous to mention.Was there any kind of foreign culture influx in Rivers State that influenced these surnames?? Or have they just been bearing these kind of surnames right from inception?

I need opinions on this.

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by HarryDuce(m): 10:44am On Sep 05, 2020
It was/is more a thing of prestige --to distinguish themselves from their neighbours-- and for easy pronunciation on the path of the Europeans after centuries of close interactions. They didn't "lose" their culture like some ignoramuses claim.

They bear European surnames alongside their native names. For every Horsfall, Lawson, Hart, Tariah, Pepple, Bobmanuel, Quaker, Douglas, Braide, David West, Princewill, Jackreece, Jack-Rich, Briggs, you have; Amachree, Dagogo, Igoniwari, Alalibo, Origoni, Batubo, Kalio, Diepreye, Okilo, Ikoli, Dokubo, Omubo, Darego, Owunari, Idoniboye-Obu, Ibulubo, Ibama and many more .

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by Nobody: 10:45am On Sep 05, 2020
Esji80:
Someone should educate me pls.The trade you people are mentioning.trade in which commidity? Fish or what?

LOL....yes fish and other kinds of cargo

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Re: About The Surnames Of Rivers State Indigenes by DeejaywonDJ1(m): 10:45am On Sep 05, 2020
Some change their name due to religion and some to command respect due to their education and class and Most of them are descendants of freed slaves returnees as well, the Amaros, Saros. The returnees mostly resided in the Lagos Colony, with substantial populations in Abeokuta and Ibadan. Some also settled in Calabar, Port Harcourt and other cities in the Niger Delta. Though many were originally dedicated Anglophiles in Nigeria, they later adopted an indigenous and patriotic attitude on Nigerian affairs due to a rise in discrimination in the 1880s, and were later known as cultural nationalists.

Notable families of the returnees are:

Davies
Cole
Fernández
Fernando
Coker
Sawyer
Ransome Kuti
Bright
Smith
Collins
Fergusson
Thompsons
Vivour
Williams
Briggs
Clarke
etc.

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