sokotoprince:



E shock you?

Don't worry.. I know is you.. I'm just on self imposed peace deal until you misbehave again

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RedboneSmith:


Uh... No.

It was the Ijaw.

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The binis actually had the first documented contact..

Skynet45:
I have seen someone bearing governor, bill gates, bezos, billionaire, millionaire, Bank etc. I think the colonialist couldn't pronounce their local names and gave them easy white names.

Inferiority complex. Let me type it in upper case.

INFERIORITY COMPLEX.

That was the reason.

Europeans also came to the shores of Southern parts of Africa. The Zulu man didn’t throw away his Shabalala or Nthshangase to adopt one shallow nonsense he doesn’t know the meaning.

It’s happening amongst some overzealous Christians now. Someone would answer Endurance, Success, Miracle, Prosperity, Confidence when there are equivalent names on their native tongues. They just are not comfortable answering their native names or speaking their native tongues.

The Irish went to the US, they maintained their names, the Scots too...the McDonalds are Scots, Irish...their Celtic heritage is still there, those from Eastern Europe kept their ...ic, ov.. Cilic, Balakov etc. The Germans have their names, the Indians still practice their culture and didn’t change.

The reason is weakness of culture and the mentality of its inhabitants.

We should be bearing purely our names by now, it shouldn't continue, it's tantamount to continual colonization

Afam4eva:

Those name are common specifically with Ijaw people of Rivers and Bayelsa state.

Those names came with colonialism. Some ethnic groups tend to romanticize the colonialist more than others.

but some of them have been saying igbos made them take on igbo names

iykejackchree:


Stop talking about things you don't have any knowledge on, which Onitsha, The Europeans came through the hinterland and settled with the locals first, does Onitsha have have sea or ocean?

DMGS, CKC and QRS are the oldest colleges in the old eastern region and they were all established by the British. It proves that the British settled more in Onitsha than Rivers state.

Thats not good, The people should value their traditional names

cluewebhost:



Missionaries and traders first landed here and locals would usually take their names as a sign of friendship (I wonder why Europeans didn't take the names of the locals).

You'd notice the same in some Lagos names too.

oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.

@ emboldened How does this make sense to you?

One OLODO just said Samuel Ajayi Crowther was not a Yoruba Man. Real OLODO ........


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Samuel Ajayi Crowther (c. 1809–31 December 1891), was a Yoruba linguist and the first African Anglican bishop in Nigeria. Born in Osoogun (in what is in Lanlate, Oyo State, Nigeria), he and his family were captured by Fulani slave raiders when he was about twelve years old.

The Most Reverend
Samuel Ajayi Crowther
D.D.
Primate of all Nigeria
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Crowther as bishop in 1867
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c. 1809
Osogun
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31 December 1891
Lagos
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St Mary's Church;
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Crowther was freed from slavery at a coastal port by the Royal Navy's West Africa Squadron, which was enforcing the ban against the Atlantic slave trade. The liberated peoples were resettled in Sierra Leone. In Sierra Leone, Ajayi adopted an English name of Samuel Crowther, and began his education in English. He adopted Christianity and also identified with Sierra Leone's then ascendant Krio ethnic group. He studied languages and was ordained as a minister in England, where he later received a doctoral degree from Oxford University. He prepared a Yoruba grammar and translation of the Anglican Book of Common Prayer into Yoruba, also working on a Yoruba version of the Bible, as well as other language projects.

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A grandson of King Abiodun,[2] through his mother, Afala, Ajayi was around 12 years old when he and his family were captured, along with his entire village, by Fulani slave raiders in March of 1821 and sold to Portuguese slave traders. His mother, Afala (who was later baptized with the name Hannah), toddler brother, and other family members were among the captives. His father, Ayemi, was most likely killed in the raid of his village or shortly afterwards. The British had outlawed the Atlantic slave trade in the early 19th century and used their navy to patrol the coast of Africa. Before the slave ship left port for the Americas (where Spain and Portugal still permitted the International slave in their colonies, the British empire and the United States still allowed slavery but had banned the trans-Atlantic importantion of slaves), it was boarded by crew from a British Royal Navy ship under the command of Captain Henry Leeke.

They freed the captives, and took Ajayi and his family to Freetown, Sierra Leone, where they were resettled by local authorities.[3]

While in Sierra Leone, Crowther was cared for by the Anglican Church Missionary Society (CMS) and was taught English. He converted to Christianity. On 11 December 1825 he was baptized. He named himself after Samuel Crowther, vicar of Christ Church, Newgate, London, and one of the pioneers of the CMS.[1] Ajayi was baptized by John Raban.


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While in Freetown, Crowther became interested in languages. In 1826 he was taken to England to attend the school of St Mary's Church in Islington, which had established a connection with free Africans in the 18th century. He returned to Freetown in 1827. He was the first student admitted to the newly opened Fourah Bay College,[4] an Anglican missionary school. Because of his interest in language, he studied Latin and Greek of the classical curriculum, but also Temne of West Africa. After completing his studies, Crowther began teaching at the school.[citation needed]

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kikero:


Apart from Secundus, the names are all funky so to speak

Especially Heineken ( I wonder why that senator has not changed that his name, and what was his father thinking?)

Still it isn't peculiar to ijawland, once saw a Zimbabwean being interviewed for a general documentary on African history. His name; Tournament Musawa.

lol.
Heineken Lokpobiri has a nice ring to it cos it sells market because it catches the audience hilariously and makes it conspicuous

there's this AIT news caster I met in Abuja.
she goes by the name Ina Peters.
the day I asked her of what does her Ina in Igbo stoods for,she told me she's not Igbo but proudly Ijaw.
that her full name was Inabiriyai Peters,that she shortened the name so as to look sexy and catchy.
I had a colleague back in med skul,his name is Tam Briggs I asked him what's the meaning of Tam,he told me Tamunotonye Briggs

you go fear Ijaw packaging.

westlius:
I bear West by name and am proud to b from Rivers state, Kalabari tribe, Such name makes some1 identity ur hometown easily. And is unique.
Any West u hear is from a particular tribe in Rivers state

I have a friend from ur place. Her surname is Petgrave

Even upon that, her name is also an English name

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merieam16:
Those surnames were from the whites who came to explore their oil, they married their women and gave birth, not really like the Lagosians who were brought back from the foreign land

Oil ke?
When was oil discovered?
There are talking about things that happened when human trade was in vogue
Oil was just yesterday na

oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.

u really need to read history. How did Europeans who came in ships from the ocean bypass the coastal towns and end up in the hinterland

MrOjay1:



i have always thought it was the yorubas(the ones living in Lagos) that first came in contact with the Europeans.

And the Europeans also lived long in YorubaLand(Lagos) before permeating other regions.

They stayed long enough in Lagos to establish the first mission school(Badagry and CMS)...so why weren't their surnames influenced?

It's unlikely that the Yorubas made first contact with the colonialists.

I can't remember the details but I read in Geography of the Tropics by Micheal Senior that the ports of Rivers State were the first and only working ports for international voyage. The natural geography of Lagos' port made it impossible (or difficult) for transportation. It was many years later that the colonialists were able to dredge (I'm not sure of the term) the Lagos coasts so that they could serve as ports.

That said, major Yoruba towns also had their fair share of colonial relics, street names like willoughby, glover, coastes etc are common in Lagos Island and Ebutte Metra.

MrOjay1:



i have always thought it was the yorubas(the ones living in Lagos) that first came in contact with the Europeans.

And the Europeans also lived long in YorubaLand(Lagos) before permeating other regions.

They stayed long enough in Lagos to establish the first mission school(Badagry and CMS)...so why weren't their surnames influenced?

You'll also notice that what you observed about foreign surnames of Rivers State indigenes is also obtainable among some indigenous Lagosians especially Portuguese and British names. You'll hear surnames like Savage, Cole, Fernandez, Pedro, Coker etc among Islanders in Lagos.

MrOjay1:
I've noticed the for a long time now that many Rivers state indigenes bear westernized surnames like Blankson, Douglas, Perricosta, Souza, Graham, Peterson, McColumbus, etc.

I have seen indigenes of Rivers who bear the above listed surnames alongside other ones too numerous to mention.Was there any kind of foreign culture influx in Rivers State that influenced these surnames?? Or have they just been bearing these kind of surnames right from inception?

I need opinions on this.

I can tell you the meaning of these names which may explain why Rivers is ruled by crazy wike lol

Blankson - The walking dead
Douglas - Buried and destroyed
Perricosta - Spiritually dead
Souza - Fallen lord
Graham - Black sun. The dead
Peterson - The obliterated
Mc columbus - Destroyed Invader

Those who don’t like “rumuokoro” decides to use English name to hide their igbo identities.

codemaniacs:


even Samuel Ajayi Crowther was not Yoruba, the british just added ajayi to deceive the yorubas in lagos.

Samuel Ajayi Crowther is a Yoruba, How come he speaks Yoruba even b4 he returned back to Yorubaland

Tospringe:

It was. Names like Coker, Dasilva, Pedro, Bucknor etc.

Those were slaves returned to Nigeria after Male(Yoruba Muslim) revolution in Brazil.

etibaba:
Rivers and Bayelsa state have really funny names and surnames sha. Heineken, lyon, Manager, Suffernomore, Inspector, Advantage, not forgetting the chairman of a political party "Secondus".

Even Warmate, Pollyn, Reginald

Which means did they use to get to onitsha? Maybe planes ? In d 16th century? Make ur research before coming to spew what you don't know.

oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.

Even the oldest missions in the old eastern region comprising of Rivers state were established by the British in Onitsha. It proves another point that they settled more in Onitsha than anywhere in the present day Niger delta, but still yet the people the British met in Onitsha never threw away their origin.

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Why say no country in West Africa experienced slavery, have you not seen or heard about point of no return in badagry, Ghana and some other parts of West Africa? quote author=codemaniacs post=93593119]


your ancestors never sold slaves, they were never victims of slave trade, they are victims of colonialism, colonialism and slavery are two different things, only few nations in Africa experienced slavery, no country in west Africa experienced slavery.

in the year 2020, white people hate and kill black people.... Do you think that in the year 1600s, 1700s, 1900s they will trade and interact with black people peacefully without hatred, killing and war[/quote]

Exmilitant:
The riverain people of rivers, delta and bayelsa were slaves enroute to the americas in the late seventeenth century they were freed by the british navy in the atlantic and dumped in those locations. The british gave them those names as means of identification. Overtime, a common language was developed among them. Bonny, calabari, engenni, nembe, brass, itsekiri, okrika, ogbia, and the ijaws. Although, some of them are outcast and renegades from igbos. Igbos calls them Olu.

Outcast and renegades from Igbo,
Oga, stop talking rubbish na, the ijaw people have existed for centuries without any relationship with the Igbos, they don't have anything in common, go and Read the history of king jaja, that was the only time Igbo people had to engage the ijaw people.

Ebi3:
Which means did they use to get to onitsha? Maybe planes ? In d 16th century? Make ur research before coming to spew what you don't know.

They probably passed through the Niger delta, but they first settled and established in Onitsha where they first built schools and churches.

oneeast3:
Europeans came to Onitsha and settled down long before going to Niger Delta. Europeans established so many premier colleges in Onitsha like DMGS, CKC, CRK, etc, before even looking to the direction of Rivers state, but it didn't make the Onitsha people that started having contacts with Europeans way back in 1500AD to threw away their origin.

Even the oldest missions in the old eastern region comprising of Rivers state were established by the British in Onitsha. It proves another point that they settled more in Onitsha than anywhere in the present day Niger delta, but still yet the people the British met in Onitsha never threw away their origin.

bloody lies, European first contact were people living at the coastline.

codemaniacs:


this is very false...

Africans were and are still too tribal to sell themselves as slaves.

do you think that the hatred white people have for Africans and people of African descent will allow them to free any African they saw... As long as you were African you will either be killed or captured and you can never be captured in a place populated by people of your tribe in that era.

the british parliament stopped the slave trade in the early part of the 18th century but, illegal slave trading was still going on so they british had to station naval checkpoints on the atlantic. Every shipload of slaves caught was instantly freed at any nearby coast. Thats why we have liberia, sierra leone etc.

It's not a slave master thing,for centuries the ijaws traded with Europeans and in turn named their Children European names and those kids are now ancestors passing the name as surnames to people of present.

Say in the next hundred years most of the surnames in southern Nigeria will be Christian and European names because Gabriel,Justine,Caleb of today will be grandfather tommorow and they will pass off this name to their offsprings as surnames,reason why we need to stop giving our kids English name because in the next century our identity will be lost.

MelesZenawi:



They threw away their fathers name just to be like Europe but still they don't behave like europeans..

Are there militants in london?

but u will find many here.

Is there oil in London? Are citizens treated unequally in the UK? Is the answer no?

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