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How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 12:24pm On Sep 06, 2020
I am from the Southern Nigeria. But I must tell you that I am very ashamed of the intergenerational political naivete of the Southern Nigerian people relative to their Northern counterparts. The bigger problem is that the South can never learn from their past because they think that they are wiser than the North when everything proves this belief wrong.

Attached to this post is a screenshot of a document from the World Population Review (WPR) detailing the 2020 population figures of Nigeria. The document shows that Lagos has a population of 9 million people while Kano has about one third of that figure. However, according to figures fed to Open Data for Africa (ODA) by the Nigerian Population Commission and the Nigerian Bureau of statistics, Kano numbered over 13 million while Lagos came second with about 12.5 million people during the 2006 census.

But, comparing the figures from WPR and ODA as cited here, isn't it clear that the 2006 population figures have been inflated to favor the North unfairly? The North does this because they have since realized how the distribution of resources in the country depends on population figures, yet the educated naive Southerners have never cared to know this all these years. The North has deceived the South mainly by making them think that landmass and population mean the same thing.

EVEN WORSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CRUDE OIL SECTOR
The Bible says that "my people perish for the lack of knowledge" (Hosea 4:6). I see this being practically and largely true of Southern Nigerians. So, I urge you, if you want to understand the underhand dealings that have taken place in the Nigerian crude oil sector for the past 60 years, I would recommend that you follow the story 'THE OIL IN OUR SOIL' (see a review here on the Africa Scope Series literature section).

Until you accept that you don't know, you will continue to be a wise fool. The North has not only deceived the South via the so-called Federal Character politics as revealed above, but all the Southerners also watch daily as almost all the oil wells in the South are owned by the North and yet no one cares to find out how it has happened. It is not just about winning the civil war but there are more remote causes.

THE NUMBER 1 PROBLEM WITH SOUTHERN NIGERIANS
The number 1 problem with Southern Nigerians is arrogance which leads to ignorance. The average Southern Nigerian believes he/she knows a lot when he/she actually knows very little relative to his/her Northern counterpart. This major error has continued for years until now. And the scripture is ever true: "He who exalts himself shall be humbled" (Matthew 23:12).

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by Kaduna1stson: 12:24pm On Sep 06, 2020
I came to see our secret in the north with the results of the 2015 presidential elections. I got confused when we had to use force, threats, rigging and even intimidation to defeat Jonathan supported by only south south and south east. It's very suspicious.

We have a lot of land but very few humans lives in my region. Go to Bornu, you can speed all the way to Adamawa and pass only very few villages. Northern population is not more than 20 million people for our North East, North West and north central.

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by NwaNimo1(m): 12:25pm On Sep 06, 2020
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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by CodeTemplar: 12:26pm On Sep 06, 2020
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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by Lamasta(m): 12:27pm On Sep 06, 2020
The number 1 problem with Southern Nigerians is arrogance which leads to ignorance. The average Southern Nigerian believes he/she knows a lot when he/she actually knows very little relative to his/her Northern counterpart.


The above is one of the problem....

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 12:36pm On Sep 06, 2020
Kaduna1stson:
I came to see our secret in the north with the results of the 2015 presidential elections. I got confused when we had to use force, threats, rigging and even intimidation to defeat Jonathan supported by only south south and south east. It's very suspicious.

We have a lot of land but very few humans lives in my region. Go to Bornu, you can speed all the way to Adamawa and pass only very few villages. Northern population is not more than 20 million people for our North East, North West and north central.

Says an insider. Thanks for being so truthful. I guess you are from Southern Kaduna and that you are a Christian and, therefore, have no reason to hide the truth.

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by sonofthunder: 1:14pm On Sep 06, 2020
10mobile:
I am from the Southern Nigeria. But I must tell you that I am very ashamed of the intergenerational political naivete of the Southern Nigerian people relative to their Northern counterparts. The bigger problem is that the South can never learn from their past because they think that they are wiser than the North when everything proves this belief wrong.

Attached to this post is a screenshot of a document from the World Population Review (WPR) detailing the 2020 population figures of Nigeria. The document shows that Lagos has a population of 9 million people while Kano has about one third of that figure. However, according to figures fed to Open Data for Africa (ODA) by the Nigerian Population Commission and the Nigerian Bureau of statistics, Kano numbered over 13 million while Lagos came second with about 12.5 million people during the 2006 census.

But, comparing the figures from WPR and ODA as cited here, isn't it clear that the 2006 population figures have been inflated to favor the North unfairly? The North does this because they have since realized how the distribution of resources in the country depends on population figures, yet the educated naive Southerners have never cared to know this all these years. The North has deceived the South mainly by making them think that landmass and population mean the same thing.

EVEN WORSE THINGS HAVE HAPPENED IN THE CRUDE OIL SECTOR
The Bible says that "my people perish for the lack of knowledge" (Hosea 4:6). I see this being practically and largely true of Southern Nigerians. So, I urge you, if you want to understand the underhand dealings that have taken place in the Nigerian crude oil sector for the past 60 years, I would recommend that you follow the story 'THE OIL IN OUR SOIL' (see a review here on the Africa Scope Series literature section).

Until you accept that you don't know, you will continue to be a wise fool. The North has not only deceived the South via the so-called Federal Character politics as revealed above, but all the Southerners also watch daily as almost all the oil wells in the South are owned by the North and yet no one cares to find out how it has happened. It is not just about winning the civil war but there are more remote causes.

THE NUMBER 1 PROBLEM WITH SOUTHERN NIGERIANS
The number 1 problem with Southern Nigerians is arrogance which leads to ignorance. The average Southern Nigerian believes he/she knows a lot when he/she actually knows very little relative to his/her Northern counterpart. This major error has continued for years until now. And the scripture is ever true: "He who exalts himself shall be humbled" (Matthew 23:12).

cc: Mynd44, OAM4J, lalasticlala

While you may have a genuine point with most of the issues you raised, the data you are presenting to us is very wrong as it lists out the population of "cities" and not states.

Both Lagos and Kano states should both be over the 20million mark as we speak. I really doubt that a place like badagry is recognized as a part of the "city of lagos". But like I said earlier, I'm not trying to water down other issues that you have raised.

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 1:33pm On Sep 06, 2020
sonofthunder:


While you may have a genuine point with most of the issues you raised, the data you are presenting to us is very wrong as it lists out the population of "cities" and not states.

Both Lagos and Kano states should both be over the 20million mark as we speak. I really doubt that a place like badagry is recognized as a part of the "city of lagos". But like I said earlier, I'm not trying to water down other issues that you have raised.
Thank you for your observation. I know that already. But see how my point still stands. If you know a little of comparative statistics, you will know how data sets relate with each other. In this case, if the 'city' of Lagos and the 'city' of Kano (which have no definite boundaries) are compared, the margin is so wide. Then, do you really think that the highly sparse rural populations of Kano could make up the figure for Kano State to get such a wide comparative advantage? Certainly no.

Statistics are never taken in isolation if they are geared for real-life information (which is their actual role). So, you can see the figures with this in mind.

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by sonofthunder: 1:47pm On Sep 06, 2020
10mobile:

Thank you for your observation. I know that already. But see how my point still stands. If you know a little of comparative statistics, you will know how data sets relate with each other. In this case, if the 'city' of Lagos and the 'city' of Kano (which have no definite boundaries) are compared, the margin is so wide. Then, do you really think that the highly sparse rural populations of Kano could make up the figure for Kano State to get such a wide comparative advantage? Certainly no.

Statistics are never taken in isolation if they are geared for real-life information (which is their actual role). So, you can see the figures with this in mind.

In line with your statistics, the rural parts of Lagos also has a higher population that the "city". But that aside, I can't say much about the population of kano never been there, can only make assertions based on external information I get.
Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by fulanimafia: 1:53pm On Sep 06, 2020
10mobile:

Thank you for your observation. I know that already. But see how my point still stands. If you know a little of comparative statistics, you will know how data sets relate with each other. In this case, if the 'city' of Lagos and the 'city' of Kano (which have no definite boundaries) are compared, the margin is so wide. Then, do you really think that the highly sparse rural populations of Kano could make up the figure for Kano State to get such a wide comparative advantage? Certainly no.

Statistics are never taken in isolation if they are geared for real-life information (which is their actual role). So, you can see the figures with this in mind.

I'm glad you were sincere enough to admit that the populations reported were of Kano & Lagos cities, not states.

However, your postulation that the wide margins between both cities imply similar disparity in the population of the entire states is rather faulty.

This is due to the fact that quite contrary to your assumption, Kano with it's massive land mass (7 x of Lagos) & 44 Lga's (with only a few in the capital) is quite densely populated in the rural areas (see attached), in contrast to Lagos which is extremely densely populated (3,526/km2) but has a tiny land mass (3,559km2)

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 2:07pm On Sep 06, 2020
fulanimafia:
...quite contrary to your assumption, Kano with it's massive land mass (7 x of Lagos) & 44 Lga's (with only a few in the capital) is quite densely populated in the rural areas (see attached), in contrast to Lagos which is very densely populated but has a tiny land mass.
This is exactly what I already said. The North keeps trying to make the South think that the number of local governments (which is human creation) and the landmass necessarily reflect the population. And the screenshot you shared is from the OFFICIAL WEBSITE of Kano State Government. We've learned not to believe in such figures thrown around by the likes of Gandollar through the years.

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by IamWonderful: 2:11pm On Sep 06, 2020
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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by fulanimafia: 2:13pm On Sep 06, 2020
10mobile:

This is exactly what I already said. The North keeps trying to make the South think that the number of local governments (which is human creation) and the landmass necessarily reflect the population. And the screenshot you shared is from the OFFICIAL WEBSITE of Kano State Government. We've learned not to believe in such figures thrown around by the likes of Gandollar through the years.

No it is not exactly what you already said because my source isn't the Kano State Government but an independent German Research Organisation.

http://citypopulation.de/php/nigeria-admin.php?adm1id=NGA025
Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 2:25pm On Sep 06, 2020
fulanimafia:


No it is not exactly what you already said because my source isn't the Kano State Government but an independent German Research Organisation.

http://citypopulation.de/php/nigeria-admin.php?adm1id=NGA025

It appears there is a mix-up here. Attached is what I found at the source you shared (as you can see on the address bar). In fact, you are proving my point here as the Fulani mafia that you are. See how you are actively trying to misinform us all here while the Southern Nairalanders are just watching. They probably think that it's only a 'forum' talk when what we are discussing here could go a long way. Honestly, I love you guys. if people are careless and stupid with what they have, who blames you for taking it and going your way?

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 3:54pm On Sep 06, 2020
See now. This post was made to prove that the North is wiser than the South but Northerners chose to disagree with it because they are gunning for higher values. But if, on the flip the post said that Igbos are the wiser, the whole place would have been full of Igbos blowing our own trumpet. Indeed it's true that an empty vessel makes the greatest noise.

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Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by fulanimafia: 5:42pm On Sep 06, 2020
10mobile:


It appears there is a mix-up here. Attached is what I found at the source you shared (as you can see on the address bar). In fact, you are proving my point here as the Fulani mafia that you are. See how you are actively trying to misinform us all here while the Southern Nairalanders are just watching. They probably think that it's only a 'forum' talk when what we are discussing here could go a long way. Honestly, I love you guys. if people are careless and stupid with what they have, who blames you for taking it and going your way?

Whatever floats your boat mate.
Re: How The Northern Nigeria Has Deceived The South For Years: WPR Document Reveals by 10mobile: 5:56pm On Sep 06, 2020
fulanimafia:


Whatever floats your boat mate.
Isn't it clear that you lied about your source? Now, you are dodging because I burst your bubble. Again I say, you are absolutely right for deceiving a bunch of people who have chosen to sleep-walk through life.

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