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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 4:33pm On Sep 06, 2020
forgiveness:


Acknowledge the ones that have done better than any coach in Europe and move on.

Mourinho was even a student of an English coach. grin

English coach havent done better than outsiders and that’s a fact

Eod

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:39pm On Sep 06, 2020
one trophy in how many decades before Abrahamovic? even Hamburg that won UCL way before Barca no get mouth na Chelsea go come dey talk? abeg

forgiveness:



Does this epistle changes the fact that Chelsea won an UEFA organised competition ahead of Barcelona even before the Russian came?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 4:46pm On Sep 06, 2020
barackodam:


Once a soldier, always a soldier.

They're still "ex England internationals" even though it's 3 minutes.

I'm very sure they know that, and prefer that
You clearly don't get my point bro.


The main essence/goal of playing international football isn't just about being called an ex- International is it?

Don't you think a player with active international football is at advantage for the benefit of his club career?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 4:47pm On Sep 06, 2020
chrisooblog:
one trophy in how many decades before Abrahamovic? even Hamburg that won UCL way before Barca no get mouth na Chelsea go come dey talk? abeg


Is it part of the history you are talking about. Barca without Messi is useless.

See dem dey beg am upadan. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 4:53pm On Sep 06, 2020
at least they have won La liga, cups and UCL before Messi came. Please how many trophies una win before russian hushpuppi join una?

forgiveness:


Is it part of the history you are talking about. Barca without Messi is useless.

See dem dey beg am upadan. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:05pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


In as much as I don’t like awaziem move ,there is no way I will say championships teams are better than Boavista

As usual na so komekn Dey yarn ,we ain’t surprised

If we go by Last season Fulham , Leeds, West Brom are clearly better than Boavista.

If we go to the bottom half with Stoke that fields two Nigerian international and many more internationals as well as Swansea.

Compare the team sheets and look at the personal if you look at the value and quality of players Boavista doesn't compete with these two teams.

The championship is more physicality and speed than technicality. Different types of football emphasis. So not all players can converge technicality with physicality and then add speed.

Players from the Championship regular go to the top leagues of Europe. And you will have to spend good money to prise a quality player from the Championship to any other league.

Money attracts the best players that's a given.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:07pm On Sep 06, 2020
barackodam:



As you made your bed, so shall you lie on it. He had the chance to play for Nigeria. He chose not to. We respected his decision and bid him well. Idc, he should be more bothered about improving his own quality so he can get a call up.

Let's face it, even if he played for us, there's no way he'd have made our team at this moment. He needs to work on himself more

In My opinion outside of Ekong he clearly better than any of our CB's.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:12pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


English coach havent done better than outsiders and that’s a fact

Eod

EOD doesn't change anything. The facts on ground proved otherwise.




andrewbaba44:


Examples of the foreign coaches are

Arsenal wenger - 3 EPL
Roberto mancini - 1 EPL
Carlo Ancelotti - 1 EPL
Rafael Benitez - 1 EPL, 1 UCL
Jürgen klopp - 1 EPL, 1 UCL
Pep guardiola - 2 EPL
Jose mourinho - 3 EPL
Claudio ranieri - 1
Pochetino - 0
Conte - 1 EPL

Total - 14

Almost all these foreign coaches I mentioned have won the epl



BRIAN CLOUGH - 2 EPL, 2 UCL

HOWARD KENDALL - 2 EPL

BOB PAISLEY - 6 EPL, 3 UCL

ALF RAMSEY - 1 EPL, WC

DON REVIE - 2 EPL

Just these 4 have won almost what a foreigner won in EPL.

Foreign coaches didn't make EPL what it is. Stop.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 5:18pm On Sep 06, 2020
chrisooblog:
at least they have won La liga, cups and UCL before Messi came. Please how many trophies una win before russian hushpuppi join una?


All the trophies needed to be won in England, Super cup and winner's cups.

Without Messi Barcelona is useless.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 2lola: 5:19pm On Sep 06, 2020
komekn:


[s]In My opinion outside of Ekong he clearly better than any of our CB's.

[/s]
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 5:25pm On Sep 06, 2020
forgiveness:


EOD doesn't change anything. The facts on ground proved otherwise.








BRIAN CLOUGH - 2 EPL, 2 UCL

HOWARD KENDALL - 2 EPL

BOB PAISLEY - 6 EPL, 3 UCL

ALF RAMSEY - 1 EPL, WC

DON REVIE - 2 EPL

Just these 4 have won almost what a foreigner won in EPL.

Foreign coaches didn't make EPL what it is. Stop.


Hmm eye opener

Only the screenshot done prove otherwise
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 5:25pm On Sep 06, 2020
Neobulletzz:

Lampard would be the first English Coach to win the EPL
Time will tell.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by IDENNAA(m): 5:42pm On Sep 06, 2020
Philosopher1979:


Ahmed Musa was badly coached. He needed to add good decision making and accurate passes and crosses to his speed and skill.
I look at him and wonder who coached him. He is raw diamond that was not refined

Bros, Musa was never groomed, just a raw talent who was thrown into the league without properly training him. And , yes , his decision making is embarrassing! At Kano Pillars , Musa could miss 20 clear chances in a game and score 1

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:50pm On Sep 06, 2020
Edopesin:


Hmm eye opener

Only the screenshot done prove otherwise

forgiveness:


EOD doesn't change anything. The facts on ground proved otherwise.








BRIAN CLOUGH - 2 EPL, 2 UCL

HOWARD KENDALL - 2 EPL

BOB PAISLEY - 6 EPL, 3 UCL

ALF RAMSEY - 1 EPL, WC

DON REVIE - 2 EPL

Just these 4 have won almost what a foreigner won in EPL.

Foreign coaches didn't make EPL what it is. Stop.


Look at you undecided ..
Yesterday when I mentioned that Liverpool dominated English football during the days of the English first division,you laughed and said only EPL matters..

Now,look at you...

English managers are crap please...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 5:50pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Food don set and you don start with all this English hype

Now you are saying boavista will struggle at the championship ? How do you know this ?

Forget budget and talk football

Boavista might be a poor team but saying they will struggle in the championship doesn’t make any sense

Modified

Apart from obi Mikel there is no quality Defensive midfielder in the championship that’s up to Javi García level ,dude won the epl with mancity starting most games

I don’t support awaziem move to Boavista but that doesn’t mean I should not speak facts

Javi Garcia is very poor example he was not outstanding at City or in the EPL. Since he left city 6 years ago he has been going down hill.

Who will leave Manchester city in the EPL for Russian league. That in itself tell you something about his quality.

Technicality in the Championship has to be mixed with Physicality and if you can garnished with speed.

This is where many of you get it wrong, physicality is not superior to technicality and neither is just pace.

However, a mix of all three is overriding advantage in a player. The Championship is in general more physicality than technicality and it's fast.

A player who is not used to that level of physicality and speed will struggle to use just technical ability to overcome.

When Rangers played Porto over two legs they got a draw in one game and beat them. The same Rangers held Villareal over two legs to a draw. Rangers would be top level league one team in the English league.

Second tiers are not rated in UEFA coefficient system and do not play in UEFA competition. So it's difficult to make that deduction. Nonetheless, the quality of players and values says something.

Any yes absolutely a very big YES players and the better players follow the money. And £££€€€ is a very big factor in football.

This is why the Championship is so competitive and has so much quality. It's the most financial buoyant second tier league in Europe.

I asked someone to compare the season transfer expenditure budget of Fulham FC to the entire Segunda División season transfer expenditure budget. That person went quite and evaded. That very fact based observation is almost self explanatory with regards to the quality of the league.

The Championship makes it very difficult for a player who doesn't have the mentality to deal with its physical intensity. You can with intensity physicality and speed overcome technicality. Not all the time depending on the quality of technical ability of players. No Championship team generally speaking will beat a top La Liga team. The technical quality is just too much again in general.

But we are taking the Portuguese league not upper level of La Liga.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 5:52pm On Sep 06, 2020
IDENNAA:


Bros, Musa was never groomed, just a raw talent who was thrown into the league without properly training him. And , yes , his decision making is embarrassing! At Kano Pillars , Musa could miss 20 clear chances in a game and score 1

Musa left the NPFL 10 years ago!...
That's enough time for him to work on his flaws and improve..
But clearly,he hasn't..

I don't see how the league contributed to that..

Players like Kanu,Mikel and Okocha played in the league too but they got better when they got to Europe...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 5:59pm On Sep 06, 2020
komekn:


Javi Garcia is very poor example he was not outstanding at City or in the EPL. Since he left city 6 years ago he has been going down hill.

Who will leave Manchester city in the EPL for Russian league. That in itself tell you something about his quality.

Technicality in the Championship has to be mixed with Physicality and if you can garnished with speed.

This is where many of you get it wrong, physicality is not superior to technicality and neither is just pace.

However, a mix of all three is overriding advantage in a player. The Championship is in general more physicality than technicality and it's fast.

A player who is not used to that level of physicality and speed will struggle to use just technical ability to overcome.

When Rangers played Porto over two legs they got a draw in one game and beat them. The same Rangers held Villareal over two legs to a draw. Rangers would be top level league one team in the English league.

Second tiers are not rated in UEFA coefficient system and do not play in UEFA competition. So it's difficult to make that deduction. Nonetheless, the quality of players and values says something.

Any yes absolutely a very big YES players and the better players follow the money. And £££€€€ is a very big factor in football.

This is why the Championship is so competitive and has so much quality. It's the most financial buoyant second tier league in Europe.

I asked someone to compare the season transfer expenditure budget of Fulham FC to the entire Segunda División season transfer expenditure budget. That person went quite and evaded. That very fact based observation is almost self explanatory with regards to the quality of the league.

The Championship makes it very difficult for a player who doesn't have the mentality to deal with its physical intensity. You can with intensity physicality and speed overcome technicality. Not all the time depending on the quality of technical ability of players. No Championship team generally speaking will beat a top La Liga team. The technical quality is just too much again in general.

But we are taking the Portuguese league not upper level of La Liga.





I don’t have time to read the rest of what you said but concerning javi García you are saying nonsense, someone played about 30 games in a star studded city team when they won the league there and you are saying he didn’t do well ?

He left for reasons best known to him ,ivanovic left Chelsea for the Russia league and lovren also left Liverpool for the same league with same team zenith

I will get back to you when I read the rest newspaper you put up there
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:01pm On Sep 06, 2020
Danielnino00:




Look at you undecided ..
Yesterday when I mentioned that Liverpool dominated English football during the days of the English first division,you laughed and said only EPL matters..

Now,look at you...

English managers are crap please...

undecided
I didn't have the argument with you and I certainly didn't say only EPL matters yesterday
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:05pm On Sep 06, 2020
Edopesin:


undecided
I didn't have the argument with you and I certainly didn't say only EPL matters yesterday
But u shared a laugh with your pal about it.. undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:07pm On Sep 06, 2020
Danielnino00:




Look at you undecided ..
Yesterday when I mentioned that Liverpool dominated English football during the days of the English first division,you laughed and said only EPL matters..

Now,look at you...

English managers are crap please...

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:08pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Foreign managers have come to the premier league and dominate it..
Abeg,how many English managers have gone abroad and dominate? lipsrsealed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:10pm On Sep 06, 2020
Danielnino00:


Foreign managers have come to the premier league and dominate it..
Abeg,how many English managers have gone abroad and dominate? lipsrsealed

Lol

Steven mclaren grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neobulletzz(m): 6:11pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Lol

Steven mclaren grin
Na Messi wey come help your life carry 3 UCL, na why you dey get mouth
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:15pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


Lol

Steven mclaren grin
grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:16pm On Sep 06, 2020
Neobulletzz:

Na Messi wey come help your life carry 3 UCL, na why you dey get mouth

This one wey you talk na igbo talk

Messi is my player nah ,or say na your team Dey pay am salary ?

If e easy to get Messi you self go discover your own Messi nah ,ordinary drogba una never fit replace grin

When Ronaldinho Dey una talk the same thing

Barca na more than a club
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:17pm On Sep 06, 2020
Danielnino00:

grin

He won the Dutch league with Twente grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Neobulletzz(m): 6:20pm On Sep 06, 2020
andrewbaba44:


This one wey you talk na igbo talk

Messi is my player nah ,or say na your team Dey pay am salary ?

If e easy to get Messi you self go discover your own Messi nah ,ordinary drogba una never fit replace grin

When Ronaldinho Dey una talk the same thing

Barca na more than a club
Lol Sheybi na Depay una wan buy now grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 6:22pm On Sep 06, 2020
Neobulletzz:

Lol Sheybi na Depay una wan buy now grin

Anybody barca wan buy make dem buy

Barca remains one of the greatest club in the history of football but same can’t be said of that team with Agbero as fans grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:22pm On Sep 06, 2020
Danielnino00:


Leave that guy..
Let him wallow in in his delusions grin .

Even premier league clubs don't have that much dominance in Europe..
It is money that's making them look good..
With money,they can buy the best players in the.world! ..even at that,they haven't been able to dominate Europe totally.

It is now the championship that's filled with mediocre British players and coaches that's now so good? cheesy

It is often said ignorance is bliss.

But to know not and to think you know is more than ignorance but self induced BLINDNESS.

Rafael Benitez, Nuno Santo, Frank Lampard, Daniel Farke according to you are mediocre managers. But you may say they are past managers in the Championship as you clutch at desperate straws.

Philip Cocu, Slaven Bilic, Scot Parker, Vladimir Ivić, Sabri Lamouchi, Thomas Frank and Marco Bielsa (coaching mentor supremo incl.Pep Guardiola) are all mediocre coaches in the Championship.

January this year AC Milan tried to sign Antonee Robinson, for £10 million he is a left back at Wigan Athletic. The deal fell through when he failed the medical irregular heart rhythm. He was not the best left back in the league and Wigan Athletic. He is currently signed with Fulham now in the EPL.

Again another mediocre player from the Championship or should l talk about Jude Billings from Birmingham city just 17 years old bought by Borussia Dortmund for £25 million.

Again they are all very mediocre players in the English Championship according to you.

I could name more, but it should tell you to think and not to be led by emotive prejudice and dislike. For instance our own midfielder maestro Eberechi Eze soon to be SE player to fill the since empty space of JJay.

Again like I said ignorance is bliss.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:26pm On Sep 06, 2020
komekn:


It is often said ignorance is bliss.

But to know not and to think you know is more than ignorance but self induced BLINDNESS.

Rafael Benitez, Nuno Santo, Frank Lampard, Daniel Farke according to you are mediocre managers. But you may say they are past managers in the Championship as you clutch at desperate straws.

Philip Cocu, Slaven Bilic, Scot Parker, Vladimir Ivić, Sabri Lamouchi, Thomas Frank and Marco Bielsa (coaching mentor supremo incl.Pep Guardiola) are all mediocre coaches in the Championship.

January this year AC Milan tried to sign Antonee Robinson, for £10 million he is a left back at Wigan Athletic. The deal fell through when he failed the medical irregular heart rhythm. He was not the best left back in the league and Wigan Athletic. He is currently signed with Fulham now in the EPL.

Again another mediocre player from the Championship or should l talk about Jude Billings from Birmingham city just 17 years old bought by Borussia Dortmund for £25 million.

Again they are all very mediocre players in the English Championship according to you.

I could name more, but it should tell you to think and not to be led by emotive prejudice and dislike. For instance our own midfielder maestro Eberechi Eze soon to be SE player to fill the since empty space of JJay.

Again like I said ignorance is bliss.




"mediocre British players and coaches"...

U follow forgiveness drink Kia Kia before you read that post?

@ bolded.. Eze to fill in Okocha's space??

cheesy
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 6:27pm On Sep 06, 2020
Danielnino00:
But u shared a laugh with your pal about it.. undecided
The fact that I find something funny doesn't mean I agree with it ok undecided
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 6:30pm On Sep 06, 2020
Edopesin:


The fact that I find something funny doesn't mean I agree with it ok undecided

That's funny..
We had a similar argument a few days back when I listed Liverpool as an elite club based on their dominance of English and European football back then...
What did u say??

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