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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 1:16am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Fromwater: Please stick to this. Don’t use local steel doors on the inside. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Fromwater: 2:26am On Sep 08, 2020 |
EgunMogaji2:Yes boss |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 2:29am On Sep 08, 2020 |
michlins: You are making yourself look more unserious and melodramatic than a skilled fabricator. I have previously expressed doubts here over your claims that you are the main guy behind those doors and gates you post here. You have not made reasonable efforts to prove yourself and covince. You are posting doors and gates including old samples you have exhibited in your previous 2017 thread as your works without attempts to explain the time of the work. Again the background of the works you are posting shows that the pictures are collections from different locations. You consistently mentioned Nnewi in Anambra State as your location and even posted your supposed company flier *New Pace* without the exact address of your factory or working place as a genuine workshop would do. Now you are quoting very attractive prices for the doors you post, and at the same time telling us that your profit per door is less than N2K How a genuine workshop with apprentices, and co workers would be making doors with N2k profit in Nigeria during a peacetime. I am still struggling to understand what is going on. You appears articulate, fluent, and determined but I really doubt that a profit of N2K for a door is enough motivation for a fabricator to grow his business. It may be enough for a middleman in the market or street hustler but doubtful for the handyman himself. You have previously stated you can work or supply anywhere if the price is good because you are looking for money. But I do observe that when asked to qoute for a location, you changed and extended the goal post requesting the person to be specific of the location. Somebody asked you the cost of the doors to Abuja, you asked for exact Abuja location when we knew that in general. a chartered vehicle from Nnewi to Abuja is what it is, a chartered vehicle to Abuja. Meaning that whether it is wuse, gwarimpa, Karu, maitama, or even aso rock the cost would be insignificant while negotiating the charter at least. The response of a willing fabricator to such enquiry would have been to ask of the quantity then plead for time to get back, so he check the tp cost. If am not mistaking I think that when you introduced yourself here as new, showed your work and request for a trial job, somebody volunteered to provide conditional guarantee (Is it Twinskenny and Gbadexy supporting), who said he is working in the East then and may stand shortee to start you off. I may be wrong. (if am right with the assertion) That you haven't got a job after that means that you may not have met the guarantors condition or what they found is way out expectations. But here you are, goading Brabus for work, I hope you wont recluse when the offer comes. I you have been advised to post video of where you are working either in your workshop or at site since you have talked of moving to site to do work if the work is big and money is right. If you kept posting finished works from different fabricators in different workshops and passing same as your hand work, without showing us videos of at least on gate or door you are constructing or where you have installed your work, I and many here would remain unconvinced. Muyeski is one fabulous fabricator here who has shown his work in videos and pictures, and people here have worked with him previously before some issues. We knew he is the guy behind the gates. We have seen him in action. Ok he may had one or two issues with some here, but he is a fabricator nonetheless. Workmen don't hide their identity or contact address except if they are hiding away from something. All the years you were absent or inactive on your gate and doors thread, you werr active on Romance section and techmology section selling phones. You claimed making money selling phone you got from a Nairalander abroad. Nothing bad with engaging in pastime at romance section or double jobbing, but of all jobs, one must be a side hustle. Which one? Phone, or selling doors?? How I wish you will not only gloss over these questions with your erudite grammar or simple soliloquy but go on to spring us with a surprise on what is behind the mask, not merely a Pandora box. 16 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 2:55am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Mayor78: My oga, easy oooo I didn't want to quote your whole write up not to jam up space but take am easy oo.. I have not had any business dealings with this guy and don't know him. But few points I want to address are, making 2k profit on the specific doors he was talking about.. this is not unusual in business.. I once worked for a fortune 500 company that have a product line that they make no money selling it but it is very popular with consumers, but they have hundreds of other products that they make boat load of profits from. The welder man here, does not only deal on that specific doors..I am pretty sure he does, like every other businesses out there have their bread and butter product lines. Second, dealing with different business. That's not unusual either. Personally I have a white collar job but I have sold t shirts, cars, tiles, ladies wears , umbrella, real estate. Etc. Neither were my full time job just i hear about a deal, if it sounds good to me , I will jump in , make the deal , take my cut and keep moving, I am no expert in my side business, so don't ask me which t shirt material is better or which car brand is more durable . I just look at the numbers, if the numbers are good, I am in If you have dealt with this guy or knew someone who have and the business went sour, kindly advise us here.. Thanks. 6 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:57am On Sep 08, 2020 |
n3xt: Are these solid balls or hollow inside? If solid, it must be heavy. Hajji M. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Omonjoe(m): 4:14am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Hello our Professionals here. Could someone please help me vet this roofing quote given to me by my carpenter Woods: 2×4 = 900pcs @#450 per piece 2×3 = 150pcs @ #350 per piece 2×2 = 1000pcs @#250 per piece 2×6 = 60pcs @#700 per piece 4" Nails = 5 bags @7000 per bag 3" Nails = 3 bags @#7000 per bag Workmanship = #300,000 I'm planning to use stone coated ties roof. The building is a 4 bedroom bungalow and a security house. The kingpost is about 6m. Attached is the floor plan of the house and security house
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:34am On Sep 08, 2020 |
mufutau55: Solid but not heavy. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 4:35am On Sep 08, 2020 |
michlins: Here we go again. After saying that you can work anywhere or even mobilise your equipment to site if work is many, you are now clawing back with excuse using location as a draw back. How can location now be a drawback after saying that you can work anywhere in Nigeria if the money is good. Despite using location as a drawback, you are proposing a build and supply to location arrangement. What is the different between direct selling to builder or homeowner in the required location and supplying to a middleman in same location. How different would you ferry to door to the location to eliminate "location as a draw back" Are you seriously suggesting that your proposed partner would make 4-5k profit after expenses How can that be possible, when you have told us you make only N2K per door. Are you still saying you will make only N2k per door and your proposed partner would make 4-5K after expenditure and "whatnot" .......Kindly note that trust and honesty are required from the both of us........ This type of language sounds familiar in dodgy investment proposals or am I just being unnecessarily picky?? Depending on how you want it, we can make this thread and her members a witness to the arrangements. Do you want to hedge the credibility of this thread or "her members" on property section as a leverage for your engagement?? Very ambiguous I may say. Who are her members. Are you sure you have established credibility here as a member of there is something like that to leverage the thread credibility? You can make and deliver[b] 5 doors[/b] as a start to "assumed partner" in any location? What stop you from making and supplying 3, 5, 5, 10 etc doors direct to builder or homeowner?? Why would you be willing to deliver to a middleman or woman but not directly to the enduser?? Are you trying to avoid thorough and incisive due diligence from a contractor or home owner prior to engagement with you?? What are you avoiding. Am asking because am interested in dealing with you but not yet convinced you are not a middleman, even though I wouldn't have problem dealing with a middleman provided the person comes clean as one. We have many middlemen trading here in roofing, sand, and granite supplies etc. I can see a lot of rational inconsistencies following your posts. As you may have enjoyed a goodnight sleep and refilled, please prove me otherwise. Assuage my fears and let us deal. Good morning! 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:53am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Mayor78: You’re right. Badgers14: You’re also right. This described me. One would imagine I’m using the low pricing on some services as a bait. Well, it’s just an exclusive offer to NextHome Customers only. You can’t call me to come and do Interlocks for you, I’ll just take a pass but I can show you how you can save big on your project. The rest is left for you to figure out. I can share contact if my casting crews with you but to take up the job as a project I’m not really sure if that right now. Yesterday, I moved my steel parapet mold to a new site. I moved it to another NextHome project and not Mr ABC site. Likewise, my dump truck. I used it majorly for NextHome projects. So the low pricing is largely enjoyed by my customers. The same for formwork rentals, block production and equipment hire. They’re all value-added services exclusive to NextHome customers only.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:11am On Sep 08, 2020 |
michlins: You have been advised by Mayor78. Pls don’t try to take any business on this section until you’ve been able to prove yourself beyond reasonable doubt. There are lots of smart people here. It’s the best for you! You could have easily make an in-road if our deal went through but just as Mayor78 rightly pointed out, you didn’t think the deal through before presenting your figures. Kindly remember I’m almost ready to mobilize you to site before you came up with the need to review the pricing. If you really do this work, I think you should find a way to prove yourself beyond reasonable doubt. Kindly reflect/ponder on this. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:50am On Sep 08, 2020 |
flekky07: Smiles. We are all waiting for the pics of the truck. I’m not seeing myself opening threads on construction updates any time soon. Maybe customers can have access to construction updates on NextHome website tho. But I’m sure I’d start sharing #bestofnaijahomes and the unique designs in the contemporary world which is my core. We’d be exploring alternative construction methods. In the meantime, the modernist should check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4q2LzMgUbvo The Changing Landscapes | Lagos 4 Likes 1 Share
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:57am On Sep 08, 2020 |
To show you the endless possibilities, I’m building NextHome20. Pics below shows what we are up to. I know the “impossible gangs” are out there but it’s only a matter of time we’d bring it into reality. NextHome | Simplifying Complexities. Delivering Possibilities.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Mayor78: 6:04am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Badgers14: You are very correct. Fortune 500 can afford to sell a product without a profit or even at a loss, and on top still meet their corporate social responsibility, produce free souvenir for advertisement and PR etc. They can afford to do all that and still keep profitable balance sheet for their shareholders because they are Fortune 500 company. Sure they have variety of products frow where they will recoup those investments. "New Pace Construction" isn't Fortune 500 nor a company with limited liabilty. He is presenting as a sole trading business with very few line of products which have no unique or universally unknown method of production. I said it is possible to sell doors with N2K profit margin or even less for a middleman but it would be very rare for a Nigerian welder to produce with N2k margin in peacetime. I doubt if he is the rare Nigeria welder. I may be wrong. I have no problem with one being a middleman even in construction but come clean as you just did. No masquerading. People sell in Ebay, Jijji, Alibaba, Jumia, etc all mostly middlemen. It has been a way of life since time. In jijji for example many people display cushions, beds, and Furnitures for sale as vendors. Dodgy ones would claim they make the cushions when they dont. They can get away by claiming they make those chairs seen in jijji but you rarely can get away from claiming you produce gate here without a verifiable evidence. Abdulwastec& Podosci, Spyder88, Segzy14, Dennis D, Dominion, Kolashangone, Skimanski, Darenyx, Biztech05, Money121, Twinskenny, Rotecch77, Aventures, Brabus, SayDFact, Gbadexy, ChiefSuppliers55 etc etc we all knew what these people offer because we have seen them do so time and time again. They genuinely presented themselves and made there handwork visible and were accepted and admired here. Many that misrepresented themselves by being truthful by half went into oblivion. Many went with known and silent casualties, others vanish naturally. We dont want more casualties here but interested to help contribute in the growth of our country by dealing with genuine service providers. We seek them. I haven't deal with New Pace but keen to do soonest if convinced. Ciao! 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 6:15am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Omonjoe: Pls set aside money to buy more wood if you want a very good job. 300k is good for this. My reasons below: - 6m Kingpost - the Building Size |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:19am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Mayor78:ok here's what I'm proposing. The location issues I'm talking about is this. Here in Nnewi, doors are cheaper probably because of cost of living. My proposal for working anywhere is if I'm dealing with a home owner directly but let's say you want to resell them at your location, it's difficult for me to go from my location to your place on every two or three weeks. Some people here even though they are not welders have more market than I have currently. Someone like brabus and Spyder are constantly building new structures. Others here also are dealers in building materials who probably are selling at a faster rate to home owners directly. So if they buy from me and sell to their customers at a price which they want, that's business for me and them. About the profits margin, let's say at your location that these doors cost about 25-27,000, even after adding the cost of transport you are making my estimated profits margin. That I'm not sure about though. Hedging on the trust of this thread is just we're doing now. Everyone one is here witness to this interrogation and I believe there are intelligent people who can pick out if I am a fraud or not. I'm not a middleman even though as I pointed out that I can hire extra hands to help me work if there's need to do that. Everything I posted here is what I can make and have made. But let's say I'm passing and see a design of a gate, I can take the picture. I'm not a know it all so I hire people to work for me when necessary. Let's say I want to build a standing tank, I'm definitely hiring someone to do the job cause as I pointed out yesterday, I had an accident that affected my leg. Truth however is that I'm still trying to expand my business and that's why I'm taking advantage which this group presents for me. A customer is free to do his own personal enquires about me and have his or her fears cleared. Let me know if you need anything else about me 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 7:19am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Indeed, he was drunk JustCryptos: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 7:26am On Sep 08, 2020 |
I appreciate my chairman@ mayor78 for his observation. This should be viewed as a selfless public service to help prevent fraudulent activities and unprofessional service rendering. It also makes it reassuring we have people who would scrutinize without sentiments and point out points that would allow people do due diligence. @ michilin, don't see it as being antagonised. This is actually a great opportunity to prove yourself and win the hearts of the enlightened and intelligent minds here. I understand you trying to say the right words to make the first deal here but also be prepared to defend your business be it here or anywhere else convincingly. Don't get tired of explaining and proving you are knowledgeable in your field. I think the greatest service you could do to yourself is to be honest and consistent in service delivery. You will make whatever big money you initially get from a client in multiple fold with repeated and continuous patronage. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 7:44am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Yes! Satin is water resistance and it also exist in Nigeria. Dulux product is good and better omanzo02: 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:44am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Mayor78:about my profit margin, instead of me to wait forever to make like 10k per day, it's better I make less provided the job comes steady. I will definitely make more money. About me asking for the exact location in Abuja, I don't think that it will cost same to deliver the doors to the various locations which you mentioned but I maybe wrong though. Another thing is that, let's say you are in gwarinpa and the doors were delivered to gwagwalada isn't that extra stress and cost for the person? I also explained earlier that if I find something I like, I can take the picture because I know I can either make it or contract someone to do that for me. I'm expert in making doors and gates but some others are experts in making handrails and standing tanks. So I hire their services if there's need for it. I don't claim to know it all. You can see I have never claimed that I can make iron roofing and other heavy part of welding works. That someone said he would like to visit me and didn't do that isn't my fault sir. He can still do that. I can use the same picture over and over again because the designs rarely change. I buy these designs already made and just couple them, do the finishing touches, paint and sell. The change coming to this work is from wrought iron design doors. They are new to the market and extremely expensive. I can only make those on demand which I'm yet to do. If you see the pictures of the wrought designs I posted, they are from the internet and looks nothing like Nigeria. It's that simple sir. The phone business was a side hustle which I did when I was hospitalized to enable me keep body and mind together. A Nairalander was the person Lejuen3 who helped me do the running around while I just order the goods. If you checked the phone thread, there was not a single case of fraud or someone buying faulty device from me even though they all paid me upfront weeks before getting their devices Modified I just remembered that I didn't address the issue with address. If you have been to Nnewi, you will know that there's no address system here like in many towns. Nothing like streets and street numbers rarely exist. We use significant buildings and locations as addressing system. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:46am On Sep 08, 2020 |
gbadexy:I don't feel attacked at all. We're talking about money and there have been issues about fraud here which I have also witnessed myself. The 3ml which someone lost here is still fresh in everyone's mind 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:54am On Sep 08, 2020 |
n3xt:I'm glad that you brought up the issue here. The fact that I acknowledged that I need to review my initial costs is an evidence that I am not a fraud. I could have quickly collected the money and ran but I realized I can't do the job at that initial price and wouldn't want a situation I will be stuck on a job and not be able to deliver. I will want everyone to do their due diligence and vet my claims the best way they can to ensure that their money is safe. Have a great day 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 7:57am On Sep 08, 2020 |
n3xt: You are much more correct Actually it’s not compulsory to tiled all the wall both the wet and the dry area but at times when client want it tiled all round nothing you can do than to do so. I did this halve tiled about 5-6yrs ago for a member here and it’s looks nice. Not only him I have done many like that too. But this doesn’t fit some building o truly. 2 Likes
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:00am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Badgers14:let me point out that doors are the least profitable product in my line of work but they are most in demand. A three storey building might require over hundred doors and just one gate, one standing tank, twenty four handrails, twelve step rails. If someone gives you the doors and you deliver,he will contract you to the rest of the jobs and there's no way you won't smile to the bank. But if you insist on making maximum profits from the doors, you might not find a single job from him because the doors are the first thing people work on 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Horlardorjah(m): 8:16am On Sep 08, 2020 |
n3xt: where in IBADAN are you working Sir, wouldn't mind buzzing in to to your site oh |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 8:22am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Great! We need more of people like you in this thread(don't easily carried away by honey-mouth)! Your request will wake the mind of most people here now, thank you so much. Mayor78: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 8:32am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Good one sir. Don't you think Contemporary design contemporary security too(electric fence-wire) , I will be glad to work with with you sir or refer me. My signature contain my info and contact. Thanks in anticipation n3xt: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:48am On Sep 08, 2020 |
vickzie: I didn’t see this That’s 15 tonnes in Ijebu Ode. Tbh, a truck is what a supplier call it. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 8:53am On Sep 08, 2020 |
double3: Check this 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 8:54am On Sep 08, 2020 |
n3xt: Concrete Sphere Update Materials used for the production of one concrete sphere.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by SurveyorGeo: 8:59am On Sep 08, 2020 |
Enyinne: Thank you ma 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 9:00am On Sep 08, 2020 |
[quote author=Fromwater post=93670470][/quote] 1st question is; are there people living around there already - maybe the way you took the pics made it look so 2ndly - 1m wont do much, I wld have advice you pay 1 year rent and do everything to raise about 2m to get it habitable in 365 days. Goodluck 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:08am On Sep 08, 2020 |
It's 8:58am here and attached is the job I'm currently working on. I am contracted by a bigger oga to work make the store doors for him. The doors are for business plazas and big shops. Like I pointed out earlier, I contract people to work for me when necessary and people do also contract me. I started the work yesterday being Monday and I was able to frame the pipes. By the end of business today, I will show you guys what stage I'm at. First picture is the sample and the second is work in progress. Please if you want to verify my exact location, kindly come to Nnewi North local government headquarters and that's why I'm doing the job for the man
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