Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by LordReed(m): 5:09pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
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Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by LordReed(m): 5:10pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
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Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 5:18pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
Interfaith? No, there is nothing like "interfaith" in an ekklesia structure (Learn from the early Christians)... Have you forgotten that denominations are the reason for doctrinal difference? Do you have a different doctrine from Maximus69 who is a JW just like you? No! Why? You Belong to the same sect. In an Ekklesia, you all belong to Christ- how then can there be any difference in doctrine?
You guys are not an embodiment of the POWER OF GOD. Jesus said - He that believes in me, greater works than these shall he do***... I hate to be the carrier of a bad news but sorry, you guys are deficient in this department. If I stick with you guys, I won't capture this in my Christian experience.
My One-Man-Mopol approach to Christianity is only temporal... Perhaps if the revolution happens in my lifetime, it will be a great Joy to assemble under the unction of one Lord - Christ Jesus. I'll focus my attention only on the highlighted words—seeing your other words were said out of contempt. So you agree that this “One-Man-Mopol approach” isn't the solution right? So why have you been hammering on it? About this “revolution” you speak of, is it only in your heart you're saying this or is it in accordance with the Scriptures? Mr Blabbermouth, the next global phenomena that will take place will be the “great tribulation” (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21) in which the political system(atheists and agnostics) will carry out the total DESTRUCTION of all false religion that are under the name of “Babylon the Great” (Revelation 17:15-17) But the same Revelation said that there will be a number of people belonging to the same group that will survive the “great tribulation” since they all have one line of thought (1Corinthians 1:10) and have all resolved to wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:9-17) So the real question should be: “WHICH GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SURVIVE THIS GREAT TRIBULATION?”—Instead of waiting for some “revolution” which has no bearing on the Scriptures. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Nobody: 5:36pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
DappaD:
I'll focus my attention only on the highlighted words—seeing your other words were said out of contempt.
So you agree that this “One-Man-Mopol approach” isn't the solution right? So why have you been hammering on it?
About this “revolution” you speak of, is it only in your heart you're saying this or is it in accordance with the Scriptures? Mr Blabbermouth, the next global phenomena that will take place will be the “great tribulation” (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21) in which the political system(atheists and agnostics) will carry out the total DESTRUCTION of all false religion that are under the name of “Babylon the Great” (Revelation 17:15-17) But the same Revelation said that there will be a number of people belonging to the same group that will survive the “great tribulation” since they all have one line of thought (1Corinthians 1:10) and have all resolved to wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:9-17) So the real question should be: “WHICH GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SURVIVE THIS GREAT TRIBULATION?”—Instead of waiting for some “revolution” which has no bearing on the Scriptures.
I just pity the poor guy, he feels like uniting those that angels have separated for destruction! Matthew 13:30 |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 5:58pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
DappaD:
Let's focus our attention on the bolded/highlighted words. @bolded So in essence, Adam, being the perfect man that he was, sinned and brought death on all mankind(Romans 5:12)—then he passed off from existence and returned to dust just as God said he would(Genesis 3:19)
@highlighted And what is the premise for this assumption? (Given that the lake of fire is different from your mythical “hellfire”) First, I am not one who says hellfire, I always say Lake of Fire! The Bible Clearly differentiates the 2. And finally we are Clearly told that hell and death is thrown into the Lake of Fire! The basis of the Truth of this Fact is Clearly Spelt out in the Words Revelation 20:12-15 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the dead were judged, death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. I am not the one who said these things! |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 6:05pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Maximus69:
I just pity the poor guy, he feels like uniting those that angels have separated for destruction! Matthew 13:30 He himself has attested to the fact that someone somewhere claiming Christian who chooses not to associate with any group also has different rules/beliefs from he who also has the same mindset. So let him go and work out issues with such a person before coming to tell those who believe in collectivism how to worship their God. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 6:07pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Dtruthspeaker:
First, I am not one who says hellfire, I always say Lake of Fire! The Bible Clearly differentiates the 2.
And finally we are Clearly told that hell and death is thrown into the Lake of Fire!
The basis of the Truth of this Fact is Clearly Spelt out in the Words Revelation 20:12-15 "And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the dead were judged, death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works, And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
I am not the one who said these things!
Irrelevancies. Oh well. You deliberately ignored the rest of my post, right? |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by MuttleyLaff: 6:15pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Blabbermouth, if you say "spot on", then are you game, free and ready to be a volunteer and play the guide pig role, in an experiment I have, to determine whether or not, you have freewill and if there's the universal law of cause and effect, hmm? Also to see how much of this alleged pre-installed genetic and psychological thinking of the creature's environment will come or not come into play? Blabbermouth: It means - there is no problem.
Yes. Bring it on! I and anyone reading might learn a thing or two.
Tomorrow 8/9pm? kkins25: what experiment is that? Turn up here at 8/9 pm tonight sharp, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 (GMT+1) Time in Nigeria to witness what the experiment is
Blabbermouth: We both feel the same thing and you ain't guilty of whatever right thing you feel in your mind. The difference is- I trust the creator of my feelings while you trust you trust your feelings. Your feelings can sometimes wrong/mislead you (we both know this to be true) while the creator doesn't come short in any way. Do you see the light now?
There is an answer and you know it... The problem is - you don't want to settle with it. Have you seen a fake #5,000 note before? No! Have you seen a fake #10,000 note before? No! Why? Because the original does not exist! The fact that you are seeing fake religions and fake gods all around is a proof that the original God exists!( without the original you can't have a fake) "Does God exist?" is not the big question (it's just a fool's resolve with the mindset of- if I don't believe Him, He can't catch up with me)... The big question is "With the 4000+ gods we have today, how can we know the real one?" Maximus69, MuttleyLaff, Righteousness89 and any other interested believer... Can you proffer a simple test by which we can discern who the real God is amidst 4000+ gods? (Bible verses not allowed please)? Maximus69: The highlighted is what really amuse me most!
No religionsists can dare such except those trained by the most wonderful counselor of all times! Isaiah 9:6
So let's see how Churchgoers are going to handle this! Maximus69: Who will take up this challenge o!
I know the way to test and prove that only Jehovah's Witnesses have the true God without using any religious book! Blabbermouth: Alright. Let's see how they approach it... (I'm not sure many would want to try it out though
MuttleyLaff: What does "no problem" mean?
I asked that, if you say "spot on", then are you game, free and ready to be a volunteer and play the guinea pig role, in an experiment I have, to determine whether or not, you have freewill and if there's the universal law of cause and effect, hmm? This required a binary answer of Yes or No, not that your ambiguous "no problem" answer
We will do the experiment real time, so just make sure you have the time to act in the experiment. If you are game, then get back to me, so we can decide on a mutually agreeable time to carry out the experiment, with you starring as the guide pig
Anything to help a brother out. I have a premonition, your demonstration won't end well, that you'll likely hoist yourself up, with your very own petard Like I earlier said, as seen above, I have a premonition, your demonstration won't end well, that you'll likely hoist yourself up, with your very own petard, because with the 4000+ve gods we have today, we would separate the gods from God and get to know the real one, God, with you so kindly accepting the challenge and so volunteered to at 8/9pm tonight, be a guinea pig, in an experiment, I have, to determine whether or not, you have freewill and if there's the universal law of cause and effect.
From this experiment, the outcome, is a product of use one stone to kill two birds, as it also will let all parties interested in the 4000+ve gods we have today, know if they are all boko, meaning, if they are all fake, are not real and so wouldn't be able to come to your rescue, but instead leave you to your choice(s). Even, though we we already know that all of these 4000+ve gods, are lifeless, inanimate, have eyes they dont see with, have ears, they dont hear/listen with et cetera, yet, we will for the sake of fulfilling all righteousness, honour and carry out Blabbermouth's request.
So everyone please make a rendezvous here by 8/9 pm tonight, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 (GMT+1) Time in Nigeria. The star of the experiment is going to be, the one and only, himself, Nairaland Religion forum famous, homegrown talent, held in high esteem Blabbermouth
Posters, please register your presence, by posting present, once you've make appearance to witness this life-and-death situation discovery, experiment, demonstration, confirmation, with the singular Blabbermouth request of Bible verses not allowed please respected[img] https:///media/10-19-2016/IEB-bt.gif[/img] cc: shadeyinka, Bodydialect57, achorladey, Acehart, Image123 |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 8:14pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:
Turn up here at 8/9 pm tonight sharp, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 (GMT+1) Time in Nigeria to witness what the experiment is
Like I earlier said, as seen above, I have a premonition, your demonstration won't end well, that you'll likely hoist yourself up, with your very own petard, because with the 4000+ve gods we have today, we would separate the gods from God and get to know the real one, God, with you so kindly accepting the challenge and so volunteered to at 8/9pm tonight, be a guinea pig, in an experiment, I have, to determine whether or not, you have freewill and if there's the universal law of cause and effect.
From this experiment, the outcome, is a product of use one stone to kill two birds, as it also will let all parties interested in the 4000+ve gods we have today, know if they are all boko, meaning, if they are all fake, are not real and so wouldn't be able to come to your rescue, but instead leave you to your choice(s). Even, though we we already know that all of these 4000+ve gods, are lifeless, inanimate, have eyes they dont see with, have ears, they dont hear/listen with et cetera, yet, we will for the sake of fulfilling all righteousness, honour and carry out Blabbermouth's request.
So everyone please make a rendezvous here by 8/9 pm tonight, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 (GMT+1) Time in Nigeria. The star of the experiment is going to be, the one and only, himself, Nairaland Religion forum famous, homegrown talent, held in high esteem Blabbermouth
Posters, please register your presence, by posting present, once you've make appearance to witness this life-and-death situation discovery, experiment, demonstration, confirmation, with the singular Blabbermouth request of Bible verses not allowed please respected
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cc: shadeyinka, Bodydialect57, achorladey, Acehart, Image123 45 minutes to go. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 9:07pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
You should kick-start it na. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 9:07pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Presently Present! Is the lecture still holding? |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Dtruthspeaker: 9:09pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Ghen-gheen! |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 9:19pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
You should have typed the experiment somewhere and just paste it naw. MuttleyLaff, MuttleyLaff, MuttleyLaff! |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Image123(m): 9:31pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
i am here. Abi they've finished Muttley ni. Because even pastors now finish people, so i am wary of people oh |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 9:36pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Unfortunately guys, MuttleyLaff has been clamped with posting ban. It turns out that there won't be much of a showdown in this thread tonight. Sir MuttleyLaff, activate another account and Let's continue here, we have a lot of spectators in case an umpire is needed. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by achorladey: 9:45pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
45 minutes to go.
It seems I am not late for the main event despite seeing the invitation a bit late |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by achorladey: 9:46pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff:
Turn up here at 8/9 pm tonight sharp, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 (GMT+1) Time in Nigeria to witness what the experiment is
Like I earlier said, as seen above, I have a premonition, your demonstration won't end well, that you'll likely hoist yourself up, with your very own petard, because with the 4000+ve gods we have today, we would separate the gods from God and get to know the real one, God, with you so kindly accepting the challenge and so volunteered to at 8/9pm tonight, be a guinea pig, in an experiment, I have, to determine whether or not, you have freewill and if there's the universal law of cause and effect.
From this experiment, the outcome, is a product of use one stone to kill two birds, as it also will let all parties interested in the 4000+ve gods we have today, know if they are all boko, meaning, if they are all fake, are not real and so wouldn't be able to come to your rescue, but instead leave you to your choice(s). Even, though we we already know that all of these 4000+ve gods, are lifeless, inanimate, have eyes they dont see with, have ears, they dont hear/listen with et cetera, yet, we will for the sake of fulfilling all righteousness, honour and carry out Blabbermouth's request.
So everyone please make a rendezvous here by 8/9 pm tonight, Tuesday, 8 September 2020 (GMT+1) Time in Nigeria. The star of the experiment is going to be, the one and only, himself, Nairaland Religion forum famous, homegrown talent, held in high esteem Blabbermouth
Posters, please register your presence, by posting present, once you've make appearance to witness this life-and-death situation discovery, experiment, demonstration, confirmation, with the singular Blabbermouth request of Bible verses not allowed please respected
[img]https:///media/10-19-2016/IEB-bt.gif[/img]
cc: shadeyinka, Bodydialect57, achorladey, Acehart, Image123 It seems I am not late for the main event despite seeing the invitation a bit late. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Nobody: 10:36pm On Sep 08, 2020 |
Oops! Is like l am a bit late for this event o, just seeing the invite now. Modified: l am not late after all, the register is still open. achorladey:
It seems I am not late for the main event despite seeing the invitation a bit late.
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Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Acehart: 5:58am On Sep 09, 2020 |
Acehart? Present Ma 1 Share |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Nobody: 7:55am On Sep 09, 2020 |
Where are the lousy religionsists nah? Blabbermouth:
"Does God exist?" is not the big question (it's just a fool's resolve with the mindset of- if I don't believe Him, He can't catch up with me)... The big question is "With the 4000+ gods we have today, how can we know the real one?" Maximus69, MuttleyLaff, Righteousness89 and any other interested believer... Can you proffer a simple test by which we can discern who the real God is amidst 4000+ gods? [ Religious books not allowed please
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Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by kkins25(m): 1:31pm On Sep 09, 2020 |
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Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 11:44am On Sep 10, 2020 |
DappaD:
I'll focus my attention only on the highlighted words—seeing your other words were said out of contempt.
So you agree that this “One-Man-Mopol approach” isn't the solution right? So why have you been hammering on it? No problem in sight. The one-man-mopol approach encourages my pursuit for intimacy. About this “revolution” you speak of, is it only in your heart you're saying this or is it in accordance with the Scriptures?
We are returning to the structure made without hands, Christ's own blueprint. Mr Blabbermouth, the next global phenomena that will take place will be the “great tribulation” (Daniel 12:1, Matthew 24:21) in which the political system(atheists and agnostics) will carry out the total DESTRUCTION of all false religion that are under the name of “Babylon the Great” (Revelation 17:15-17) But the same Revelation said that there will be a number of people belonging to the same group that will survive the “great tribulation” since they all have one line of thought (1Corinthians 1:10) and have all resolved to wash their robes and make them white in the blood of the Lamb. (Revelation 7:9-17)
Those guys were an assembly of the called out ones, they pledge their allegiance to Christ directly, not through a denomination. Don't force it please. So the real question should be: “WHICH GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE GOING TO SURVIVE THIS GREAT TRIBULATION?”—Instead of waiting for some “revolution” which has no bearing on the Scriptures.
There is no special, apple-of-Jehovah's-eye denomination, they will all be dissolved and your JW won't be spared. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 11:48am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
No problem in sight. The one-man-mopol approach encourages my pursuit for intimacy.
We are returning to the structure made without hands, Christ's own blueprint.
Those guys were an assembly of the called out ones, they pledge their allegiance to Christ directly, not through a denomination. Don't force it please.
There is no special, apple-of-Jehovah's-eye denomination, they will all be dissolved and your JW won't be spared. Your fallible and personal opinions have no bearing on the scriptures my friend |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 11:53am On Sep 10, 2020 |
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Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 11:54am On Sep 10, 2020 |
DappaD:
Your fallible and personal opinions have no bearing on the scriptures my friend Denominations have no bearing in the scriptures my friend. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 11:55am On Sep 10, 2020 |
DappaD:
He himself has attested to the fact that someone somewhere claiming Christian who chooses not to associate with any group also has different rules/beliefs from he who also has the same mindset. So let him go and work out issues with such a person before coming to tell those who believe in collectivism how to worship their God.
It's like you find it hard comprehending people. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 12:04pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Maximus69:
Hmmmmmmmm you're just too presumptuous to the extent you don't meditate on what you're reading before replying!
(1) During the time God was leading the Israelites out of Egypt there was an angel leading them in the name of Jehovah {Exodus 14:19, 32:34} Moses was the human agent that everyone can see but an angel was working with Moses, this angel was a representative of Jehovah! No other angel can come to divide the assembly while that angel is leading them with Moses! The laws God gave the Israelites was to form a barrier between his own worshipers and the worshipers of Satan under different demons, as long as they keep the regulations of their God they will remain one group. Stop here! This is exactly what I'm talking about and what we are returning to. Remove Moses and add Jesus, there you have it. (2) Before the advent of Christianity the Israelites has been devastated by different demons so they're no more one Organization.
That's the same problem we are having today. Can you see what I'm talking about now? Ten tribes of the North were known as "Samaritans" while the remaining TWO Southern tribes were called "Jews". So did Jesus agree that they are all worshiping the same God? NO!
Exactly! Now do not also forget that Jesus did not hold anything back in faulting the Jewish leaders too. The moment the flocks scattered, Wolfs operated in full stealth. That's why he could answer a Samaritan woman who asked her a question on this topic saying "You (Samaritans) worship what you do not know, we (Jews) worship what we know salvation is of the Jews" John 4:22 So there has always been demons penetrating pure worship, and when Jesus commissioned Christianity he made it clear that Satan will still do the same thing with his demons. They will enter into the Church and cause confusion but in the endtime Jesus will send his angels to separate his own group out of Satan's worshipers {Matthew 13:24-30} Today Jehovah's Witnesses are standing out because Jesus (Michael) is here invisibly leading his own group and his angels are working with JWs to pick the remaining part of the lost sheep who are still under Satan's agents (Churches of Christendom)
Shut it! Stop forcing your organization name as though you are advertising for them... The last i recalled, you guys don't capture the "He that Believes in me, Greater works than these shall he do". My guy, this are the last moments in the history of mankind the next thing we are expecting now is the destruction of all worshipers of Satan. Then we can be ushered into the new world!
It will come. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 12:11pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
Denominations have no bearing in the scriptures my friend. How were the Christians in the first century grouped? Congregations? That's why we're always telling you that if you closely examine Jehovah's Witnesses you'll see exactly the same pattern followed by Jesus and the early apostles. But no, your idea of ‘I don't want to belong to any group’ is what's blurring your decisions. Perhaps you've not met your fellow “OneManMopol” Christians who argue and argue because they cannot come to one agreement about which pattern of worship to follow—unfortunately, you are no different from them since you refuse to take the Bible as the highest authority (Romans 15:4, 2Timothy 3:16) |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 12:18pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
DappaD:
How were the Christians in in the first century grouped? Congregations? It will be of good importance if you go study them yourself - you know, It gives your understanding depth and width. That's why we're always telling you that if you closely examine Jehovah's Witnesses you'll see the exactly the same pattern followed by Jesus and the early apostles. But no, your idea of ‘I don't want to belong to any group’ is what's blurring your decisions.
LMAO... Nigga, I go to churches when I'm inspired to, I fellowship with people and desire the sincere milk of the word together. Unfortunately, I will never pledge allegiance to any group, Christ Bought me directly, he didn't pay through your board or directors or the numerous Daddy G.O's. Perhaps you've not met your fellow “OneManMopol” Christians who argue and argue because they cannot come to onenagreement about which pattern of worship to follow—unfortunately, you are no different from them since you refuse to take the Bible as the highest authority (Romans 15:4, 2Timothy 3:16)
Have you prayed alone? Have you studied the word alone? Have you fasted alone? Then you are a part-time One-man-mopol. The only difference is, you also belong to the witness organization. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 12:20pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
It will be of good importance if you go study them yourself - you know, It gives your understanding depth and width.
LMAO... Nigga, I go to churches when I'm inspired to, I fellowship with people and desire the sincere milk of the word together. Unfortunately, I will never pledge allegiance to any group, Christ Bought me directly, he didn't pay through your board or directors or the numerous Daddy G.O's.
Have you prayed alone? Have you studied the word alone? Have you fasted alone? Then you are a part-time One-man-mopol. The only difference is, you also belong to the witness organization. Don't be ridiculous to bring me into your confusion, Blabbermouth. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by Blabbermouth: 12:24pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
DappaD:
Don't be ridiculous as to bring me into your confusion, Blabbermouth. My confusion? It is well. Problems arose when men started owning Churches (yea, even kingdom hall)// No wonder why we all started shadowboxing and clutching on to straws yesterday. |
Re: The Concept Of Eternal Hell Fire by DappaD: 12:35pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Blabbermouth:
My confusion? It is well. Problems arose when men started owning Churches (yea, even kingdom hall)// No wonder why we all started shadowboxing and clutching on to straws yesterday. How many of the so-called Christians who claim “Christ bought them”—have you been able to convince with your words so you guys form a “body of Christ”? Or are you people just confused that you can't agree on one particular form of worship? Luke 6:46 Blabbermouth, please “why, then, do you call [Jesus]‘Lord! Lord!’ but do not do the things [Jesus] says?”Let's know who's truly doing what Christ asked them to do. So please enough of this “Christ bought me” hullabaloo, among all Jesus Christ asked his followers to do, point to one single thing you have done and stop being sentimental. Also Blabbermouth, if you want to know the import of what Jesus meant at John 14:12 about those who will do greater works than he did and how it relates only to Jehovah's Witnesses, do ask and I'll respond. |