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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nauttyprof(m): 8:23am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Joshmodest: It is because you read it while looking at it from the slavery point of view and this is why you didn't get the point Paul made. When Paul talked about husband loving his wife as Christ love his church and gave his life to it. He talks about Sacrificial love of the husband to his wife. One that does not think of his own gain but that of his wife. One that will not consider self first before his wife. Was Paul talking about husband being a slaughter goat? Submission on the other side by the wife to her husband is not that of a slave to her master but a submission in love in every sense as the Bible puts it. Please, tell me if with these two ways from husband to wife and wife to husband in bad for a home to be built upon. Freeze can be selective just to gain audience without looking at the Bible holistically. Bible is to be read verse by verse to understand the Author's intended meaning alone. 2 Likes |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by urchcoded(m): 8:24am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Omoluabi16:lol too late. Everyone is this country knows daddy freeze ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nauttyprof(m): 8:25am On Sep 10, 2020 |
bkool7: No get the message clearly. You will understand this better when you also read Ephesians 5:21-26. You will understand clearly. 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Blitzerz: 8:25am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:The 2 way submission is different from the submission to Christ (the type Ephesians 5 says) . Otherwise u are implying Christ should submit to us |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by davirossi(m): 8:25am On Sep 10, 2020 |
[quote author=GarangDeMabior post=93764279]All these nonsense, See exactly what Christ did below 'Mr. Brown had thought of nothing but numbers. He should have known that the kingdom of God did not depend on large crowds. Our Lord Himself stressed the importance of fewness. Narrow is the way and few the number. To fill the Lord's holy temple with an idolatrous crowd clamoring for signs was a folly of everlasting consequence. Our Lord used the whip only once in His life - to drive the crowd away from His church." If Christ our Lord will be here today, he will use whip to drive out Oyedepo, Adeboye, Ibiyeomie, Ben Akabueze, Daddy freeze and others away from his church.[/and the five thousand men excluding women and children that followed Jesus at one time I believe they are few too what of the four thousand men excluding women and children that number is few I believe..] The Lord speaking in Jeremiah 30:19b I will multiply them and they shall not be few. Don't just follow the herds and talk follow them because you understand context of matters |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:25am On Sep 10, 2020 |
tumababa:Submission is not only the job of the wife like oyedepo pointed out It's the job of both as freeze pointed out and stated in vers 21 |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by GreyLaw(m): 8:25am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Joshmodest: You are actually truly confused if you think Peter or Paul's writings were their opinions. Good luck with that thinking. But I really don't blame you. I blame Christians who have not shown what Christianity truly is, or demonstrated the power of the true Christian life. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:26am On Sep 10, 2020 |
tundeloveday:U that have sense explain |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Djyucee1(m): 8:27am On Sep 10, 2020 |
I'm not saying the pastor has the guidance of the Holy spirit all I'm trying to say is that it takes a divine wisdom of the Bible to understand the scriptures. The Bible isn't a poem. Don't be biased with your comment. nedekid: |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by nick50(m): 8:27am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Some people are daft.. Why would a sane human being take marriage counsel from a product of a broken marriage like freeze?.. Since he knows the scripture very well why did he fail in his marriage?. Why not ask him to get a new wife n submit to her like he preaches..we celebrate failure and mediocrity alot in this country that's why we discuss bb9ja shut and elect corrupt n dead people into office 3 Likes |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:28am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Nauttyprof:Now that's your own interpretation ...if the wife was the only one meant to submit there won't be verse 21 21 gave the condition for which wife would be submissive .. if 21 is met then 22 can follow Stop saying he was selective when oyedepo did same thing 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:28am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Blitzerz:Didn't Christ submit his himself for us ? Which submission is more than giving your life Didn't Christ give his life first before we became submissive to him ? 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Afr0mentalist: 8:29am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Awol1:Daddy freeze never said wives should not submit to their husband. Have you read and heard what he said or you just react on hear say ? 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:29am On Sep 10, 2020 |
farem: This is a pure distraction. Christians are making this man relevant because they keep replying him . I hate it whenever I see pastors giving him attention |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by RuddyFusion(m): 8:29am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Joshmodest: You're the one confused... there's nothing confusing about Christianity...the scriptures were written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit if this is not clear to you then seek clarity to it from the Holy Spirit |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:30am On Sep 10, 2020 |
prekumohtim:Daddy freeze has made more people read Bible than your pastors have done in the past 20 years 3 Likes |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Tecord1(m): 8:32am On Sep 10, 2020 |
GarangDeMabior:And how do you know this. Need i remind you that Jesus some to a gathering of 5000 men and also another 4000? There were other occasions where the crowd was so great he had to sit in a boat in order to address the multitude. So if Jesus is againt crowds why then did he do these. Just like Freeze was advised, i will also to you according to the scripture. Study to show your self approved. rightly dividing the word of truth. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by rossovu: 8:34am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Pastor worshippers full this thread ![]() Everything freeze said is in the bible yet people are dragging him...funny! If you say freeze is wrong this time, then you're simply saying the bible is wrong. 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by bkool7(m): 8:34am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Nauttyprof: Which message? The Bible's message Or this Pastor's? Clearly he's not telling the husband to reciprocate so how does his message compliment the Bible's? To him it's a one way thing 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by GarangDeMabior: 8:34am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Tecord1: Why did he drive out the crowds inside his church? In his church and you are using another analysis totally from what Christ did at his church in Jerusalem. You really need to Study well to show your self approved. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Zane2point4(m): 8:34am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Joshmodest:Even with natural law,if your wife is submissive you'll love and cherish her,i dont think you'll have the mind to insult her. So both daddy freeze and the men of God are right,but Wife should submit first. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by GarangDeMabior: 8:35am On Sep 10, 2020 |
[quote author=davirossi post=93766436][/quote] Why did he drive out the crowds inside his church? In his church and you are using another analysis totally from what Christ did at his church in Jerusalem. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by alasane: 8:35am On Sep 10, 2020 |
GarangDeMabior: Christianity is fraud..blind followers .just to enrich those pastors and co 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Solutionchima: 8:36am On Sep 10, 2020 |
May God bless you sir. Freeze has this penchant for digging holes around pastors words just to discredit them. A man thats bias CANNOT interprete scriptures, driven by hate and jelousy, is pained because some pastors are comfortable. He wants the church to go back to the era of church rats, so he can feel relevant. Let him go a tackle the rot in Aso rock |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nauttyprof(m): 8:37am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001: I am not a respecter of any man of God whether he is Adeboye or Oyedepo. I believe in searching the scriptures to understand better what God is saying. I am like the Berean Christian who still goes back to know if the word spoken was true. Back to you dwelling on verse 21, I will like to give an example for better clarity. This is in the form of instruction. Tunde and Wale go and break that fence. I then said further, Tunde you should use sledge hammer to break the fence blocks. Wale you are to pickup the broken blocks and dispose them. If you dwelled on my first sentence, you would have gotten my message wrongly till you read other statements from me. That is the case with what Paul said too. You should not stop at 21 but read it further to understand his view on this. The instruction was progressive and didn't stop at 21. 2 Likes |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by janeedema(f): 8:37am On Sep 10, 2020 |
I truly don't see the need for all the back and forth. Freeze clearly has his audience, so does Papa Oyedepo. If any Christian chooses to be confused, it is clear that the problem isn't Freeze or Papa Oyedepo, but the Christian who wouldn't check out the scriptures. Marriage is sustained by knowledge, understanding, and wisdom- (Prov 24:3-4). I believe strongly that people who debate who should submit first are those who have issues with pride. We may not like it as ladies, but a woman isn't a partner with her husband. Her husband is her lord, for anything that has two heads is a monster. God instituted marriage and set order. You have issues with your hubby as a wife? Then dialogue, and if he disagrees, report him to His Lord; who is also your Lord. If you have issues with trusting God to deal with your hubby, then it means you have issues with your salvation in the first place. There's nothing more unappealing than a lady who always wants to have her way. It takes off the poise, charisma, dignity, and charm you have as a lady. Let the man lead. And here's the obvious: Don't marry a man you cannot submit to. I believe it's that simple. 3 Likes |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by CodeTemplar: 8:37am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Heavance:Leave emotional immaturity aside and realize religion (at least Christianity) doesn't discourage thinking or reasoning. As a matter of fact God says "come let us reason together" As for your claim about life experiences not amounting to insult. What happened between freeze and Oyedepo was a case Freeze attempting to directly rubbish Oyedepo's stand on a issue. And it bacfiree spectacularly just like the rest. We all know how freeze likes to personally insult Oyedepo too well so stop saying it is life experiences driven opinion. 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:38am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Nauttyprof: Reading from 21 is misleading cos 21 is the last part of a sentence ( advice he was giving to the whole church). While 22 is the beginning of a new sentence ( advice to couples). 4 Likes |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 8:40am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Nauttyprof:Oga no body is stopping at 21 ...all I'm saying it don't ignore 21 ...the husband must submit to the wife also ..then the wife can now submit to the husband as we submit to Christ Christ himself submitted himself to the church first by laying down his life before the church submitted to him |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by nedekid: 8:40am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Djyucee1:Ok. I understand you better. But how are we sure daddy freeze does not have "divine wisdom of the Bible" to understand the scriptures? ![]() After all he seems to make more sense than those chalatant pastors. 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by onatisi(m): 8:41am On Sep 10, 2020 |
daddy freeze should leave bible interpretations and try and focus on the Quran . i am sure he wont last one year after Muslims have dealt with him . Deborah98: 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Odidigboigbo(m): 8:41am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:Bible said husband is the head of the family he is not in anyway joint head with the wife. So how will a husband submit to his wife? Can you submit to your subordinates? You only show him respect and love that is the stand of the Bible and Africa culture. The western world you want to copy, how is their family life like? Broken homes everywhere. 1 Like |
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