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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Joshmodest(m): 9:01am On Sep 10, 2020
RuddyFusion:


You're the one confused... there's nothing confusing about Christianity...the scriptures were written by the inspiration of the Holy Spirit if this is not clear to you then seek clarity to it from the Holy Spirit
Where can I find him
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by onatisi(m): 9:02am On Sep 10, 2020
he can only trend and stay relevant by trending on pastors , he knows nigerians will be interested to hear what he will say. he tried using politicians and saw that ppl were not interested . i take him to be a buisness man that knows what the ppl want to hear . so he is just giving them what they want.
STAY CONTROVERSIAL , STAY IN THE NEWS , KEEP UP THE POPULARITY

samnaija:
This guy is irrelevant, just wants to trend on pastors and they are falling for it . Ignore him till he changes from freeze to boil.
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Essence20(m): 9:02am On Sep 10, 2020
Igbochief001:
Daddy freeze never said wife's should not submit to the husband ...he only said it's a two way thing ...both husband and wife should submit to each other ....and gave a Bible verse to back it up

I wonder what's wrong with that ?
What's wrong is that a man isn't meant to submit to his wife, he should love the wife.
It's not a two way thing. Each has their different role to play and must stick to it regardless of the other's flaws.
It could be difficult but that's the injunction.

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Joshmodest(m): 9:03am On Sep 10, 2020
Nauttyprof:


It is because you read it while looking at it from the slavery point of view and this is why you didn't get the point Paul made.

When Paul talked about husband loving his wife as Christ love his church and gave his life to it. He talks about Sacrificial love of the husband to his wife. One that does not think of his own gain but that of his wife. One that will not consider self first before his wife. Was Paul talking about husband being a slaughter goat?

Submission on the other side by the wife to her husband is not that of a slave to her master but a submission in love in every sense as the Bible puts it.

Please, tell me if with these two ways from husband to wife and wife to husband in bad for a home to be built upon.

Freeze can be selective just to gain audience without looking at the Bible holistically. Bible is to be read verse by verse to understand the Author's intended meaning alone.
So how is this different from what freeze said ?? or you just want to counter him ?

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Joshmodest(m): 9:05am On Sep 10, 2020
Essence20:

What's wrong is that a man isn't meant to submit to his wife, he should love the wife.
It's not a two way thing. Each has their different role to play and must stick to it regardless of the other's flaws.
It could be difficult but that's the injunction.
And now the word submission becomes insulting ,cos its used on a man ... I hope you know that it was God that created them too and not Cain?

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 9:05am On Sep 10, 2020
Emempaul:
guy go and read the Bible well and don't twist this thing in order to trend. verse 21,25 27 and 28 says it all husband and wife shud submit to themselves for a fruitful and loving marriage

So d one d man quoted are not scriptures?
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by janeedema(f): 9:06am On Sep 10, 2020
Hmmm...you may be right. But if the Bible is the topic of discourse, then you're wrong, because it wasn't fashioned out by men, so it's rid of sentiments and gender bias.

The Bible is a manual from the manufacturer of man on how he can live a fruitful life as he transitions on earth.

So even if the manufacturer is mistaken, or the manual flawed, wisdom says I should stick with it if I want to live.

I can't say the same for any book authored by man.

akdjr:
Truly when they say women are their own enemy . It is high time people start looking beyond just believe and think logical too. Can't u see that most laws back in the days were made by men just to subject women to their control. Open ur mind, come out of what u were program to believe and reflect on what I just said. I am a man but I can go on a debate with anyone of my gender that men made laws just to keep woman under selfish control.

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by SirMichael1: 9:07am On Sep 10, 2020
GarangDeMabior:
All these nonsense, See exactly what Christ did below

'Mr. Brown had thought of nothing but numbers. He should have known that the kingdom of God did not depend on large crowds. Our Lord Himself stressed the importance of fewness. Narrow is the way and few the number. To fill the Lord's holy temple with an idolatrous crowd clamoring for signs was a folly of everlasting consequence. Our Lord used the whip only once in His life - to drive the crowd away from His church."


If Christ our Lord will be here today, he will use whip to drive out Oyedepo, Adeboye, Ibiyeomie, Ben Akabueze, Daddy freeze and others away from his church.
The five thousand men that christ gathered were few right? Narrow trully is the way, and the way is through christ and that can be achieved through giving your life to him.

The more the congregation, the more the souls won.
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by MrBrownJay1(m): 9:08am On Sep 10, 2020
janeedema:
If the Bible is what you seek to follow. Then, yes sir; the submission of a woman should be total.
Maybe you should read out the relationship of Sarah and Abraham. She called Abraham, Lord.
If marriages are to be enjoyed, then let everyone play their role wholeheartedly.

Are you talking of the same Abraham that clearly did immoral/sinful acts (by the bible standards) and had kids by two baby mamas outside marriage, yet was never punished for it NOR Viewed as a sinner?! That's Abraham?!

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 9:10am On Sep 10, 2020
Joshmodest:
Christianity is the most confusing of all religions ... if Jesus is the origin of Christianity , why should apostle Peter's opinion on husband and wives become something everybody should abide by ...
if u look at it clearly , men wrote these books , and like I always say no matter how you try to tell me, that they received Inspiration from God , their sentiments can never be overlooked ....
imagine ibiyeome or Adeboye or even father the father oyedepo , were alive then and had the chance of writing the bible , abi are they not getting inspiration from God ? they would have put things like if anyone defames you lock him up , or if your secretary is tempting you sack her or pay your tithe if not if it will be tithe for you , and the sweetest of all -- if you don't pay your tithe you are under a financial curse ....
And people of these days would have to abide by such nonsense ...

You need no bible to tell you that , your wife is also human , and needs respect to and not a slave that you can order around the place or insult the way you like cos one book says she has to submit ....
if the bible had even put it the way freeze said it ,my respect for the writer would be really high !

Daddy freeze , oyedepo , Adeboye , ibeyiome are all same of the same , confusing and brainwashing people , I prefer Freeze's brainwash tho , cos he comes with facts and not sentiments !!!

What u wrote up here is even more confusing than anything said by d Bible or freeze
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Oracleforce: 9:11am On Sep 10, 2020
Some people.here are just too biased to see the argument in the light of the scripture and their right thinking mind...
What Bishop Oyedepo preached doesn't warrant Freeze argument....because the scripture is clear...it is either you want too capital in your ship or there should be one captain and absolute responsible for the copilot...
Whatever you want to run your family....it your choice..the Muslim faithful will just be making jest of us because in this kind of argument....it is clearly spelled out in Quran and there is no basis for an argument.....
Freeze doesn't have a good marriage so he shouldn't be the one that will be teaching genuine Christain about doctrines of marriage and relationships...it is like a case of a pauper teaching some rich people how to make money....
A friend good friend to internet fraudsters....and a person of questionable character...
Paul said to Elyma the sorcerer "/Acts 13:9-11 Then Saul, (who also is called Paul,) filled with the Holy Ghost, set his eyes on him,
And said, O full of all subtilty and all mischief, thou child of the devil, thou enemy of all righteousness, wilt thou not cease to pervert the right ways of the Lord?
And now, behold, the hand of the Lord is upon thee, and thou shalt be blind, not seeing the sun for a season. And immediately there fell on him a mist and a darkness, and he went about seeking some to lead him by the....."
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Tecord1(m): 9:14am On Sep 10, 2020
Why have we been arguing about this issue. How many of us here have actually take the time to read the scripture being debated. How do you argue what you don't know. This is the problem of self acclaimed Christians of our time. We go to church but don't have time to check the scriptures to know if truly we are working in its light. Pls how do one become a medical doctor without him studying medicine?or how do one become a professional driver without knowing the rules of driving. This is the main reason why thing are the way they are in Nigeria. We want the fruit and not the labor. The bible has said it that we should study to show our selves approved,a workman that need not be ashamed rightly dividing the words of truth. This i believe applies to every area of our being. To the youths, we have to stop sitting and waiting for everything to be handed to us. We have to start from a place of preparation so we are better suited for the job to be down. Our parents never waited for hand outs, neither are they ready to to hand over. So like them we should strive to takeover and make our country great so our children don't think of leaving to the white man's land for greener pasture. I believe we can make our land greener . God bless Nigeria. God help our leaders . God bless the citizens of our great country

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by buchilino(m): 9:16am On Sep 10, 2020
Igbochief001:
Daddy freeze never said wife's should not submit to the husband ...he only said it's a two way thing ...both husband and wife should submit to each other ....and gave a Bible verse to back it up

I wonder what's wrong with that ?

UR STATEMENT CLEARLY SHOWS UR POWERFULLY SINGLE
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Immortalzbon(m): 9:16am On Sep 10, 2020
GarangDeMabior:


What are the present ones doing in same church, if I may ask?

At least in the church i go to, i dont see no one selling cows...
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by chaloskyx: 9:16am On Sep 10, 2020
you see ehen when it comes to interpreting scriptures its best to just interpret it yourself and throw both d pastors and atheists suggestions out the window. these days both are tagged as false prophets and are one and the same
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by buchilino(m): 9:17am On Sep 10, 2020
Igbochief001:

Have u listened to freeze or just hear say ?

U BETA LISTEN TO THE BIBLE OR U MAY END UP BEING MISLED
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Heavance(m): 9:18am On Sep 10, 2020
CodeTemplar:
Leave emotional immaturity aside and realize religion (at least Christianity) doesn't discourage thinking or reasoning. As a matter of fact God says "come let us reason together"

As for your claim about life experiences not amounting to insult. What happened between freeze and Oyedepo was a case Freeze attempting to directly rubbish Oyedepo's stand on a issue. And it bacfiree spectacularly just like the rest. We all know how freeze likes to personally insult Oyedepo too well so stop saying it is life experiences driven opinion.
You still missed the point.
I have had cases where pastors were preaching about salary, of husbands being open with their salaries to their wife. And the pastor went further to explain how he does his with his wife, how it has worked in his home (I turned deaf ears immediately because I know that's not for me) .
And I have had other couples (I personally know) doing the opposite of what the pastor preached, which makes their home stand well as well.

Now the point is, leave imagining what Freeze is saying, or what he is attempting since he only had a contrary opinion. If Freeze's opinion works for him, very fine, if Bishop Oyedepo's opinion is for you, fine as well. But taking a contrary opinion as an insult is awful.


Then the part you said backfired, no no no... It ended up as a serious backfire for Salvation ministry and their pastor. In fact as a Christian, I am still looking for where to borrow shame for them. You don't go preaching corona virus is ordinary malaria....... and then come with a racist comment that your congregation cheered, then go in for another country (Somalia) and also asking for someone's parent, and cap it with his profession. I am still looking for where to borrow shame for that pastor.
It is so shameful that people are asking how they ended up putting that embarrassment on social media

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by LordKO(m): 9:18am On Sep 10, 2020
Submission is of the wife, while love is of the husband, and deference is of both towards each other.
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 9:21am On Sep 10, 2020
Until you start living with a girl with such ego and she calls herself an alpha female. Life is very unbearable with partners like that. It goes beyond explanation. You need to experience it. Talk to many single mothers, they found themselves in such trap. Or you live with someone who you tell to do one thing and she wants to know why she shouldn’t do the other
Igbochief001:

U that have sense explain
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Immortalzbon(m): 9:21am On Sep 10, 2020
Igbochief001:

Lol funny very funny ...husband and wife should submit to one another under the fear of God ...how is that hard for u to grab

Then if a man submits to a woman.. Y'all will call him a simp aint it?. What an irony..
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by aaking(m): 9:24am On Sep 10, 2020
Emempaul:
guy go and read the Bible well and don't twist this thing in order to trend. verse 21,25 27 and 28 says it all husband and wife shud submit to themselves for a fruitful and loving marriage

Verse 21 says we all should submit ourselves to the fear of God, other verses says wife submits while husband should Love his wife
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nauttyprof(m): 9:25am On Sep 10, 2020
Igbochief001:

Says who ...u or your pastor ? The Bible is God's word simple stop trying to force your ideology on me

Says the word of God

I am not forcing you or imposing anything on you.
Just read the book of Ephesians 5 and you will understand better. Start from the beginning.
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by noonenotwo: 9:25am On Sep 10, 2020
GarangDeMabior:
All these nonsense, See exactly what Christ did below

'Mr. Brown had thought of nothing but numbers. He should have known that the kingdom of God did not depend on large crowds. Our Lord Himself stressed the importance of fewness. Narrow is the way and few the number. To fill the Lord's holy temple with an idolatrous crowd clamoring for signs was a folly of everlasting consequence. Our Lord used the whip only once in His life - to drive the crowd away from His church."


If Christ our Lord will be here today, he will use whip to drive out Oyedepo, Adeboye, Ibiyeomie, Ben Akabueze, Daddy freeze and others away from his church.

you must be the antichrist the scripture is talking about, i would want any to tell me that u are, but i urged u to repent now so that ur end will not be miserable
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by michoim(m): 9:26am On Sep 10, 2020
On point
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 9:27am On Sep 10, 2020
Immortalzbon:


Then if a man submits to a woman.. Y'all will call him a simp aint it?. What an irony..
And if a woman submit to a man u call her what ?
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by miketayo(m): 9:27am On Sep 10, 2020
Deborah98:
Freeze is always looking for a way to turn the scriptures upside down....

Freeze never said the wife shouldn't submit to d husband, but wife should only submit to a husband that has submitted to God first. vs21
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 9:28am On Sep 10, 2020
tundeloveday:
Until you start living with a girl with such ego and she calls herself an alpha female. Life is very unbearable with partners like that. It goes beyond explanation. You need to experience it. Talk to many single mothers, they found themselves in such trap.
Oga respect is earned ...if u can't earn it leave
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 9:28am On Sep 10, 2020
buchilino:


U BETA LISTEN TO THE BIBLE OR U MAY END UP BEING MISLED
Have read the Bible start to finish ?
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by RealEzee(m): 9:28am On Sep 10, 2020
Igbochief001:
Daddy freeze never said wife's should not submit to the husband ...he only said it's a two way thing ...both husband and wife should submit to each other ....and gave a Bible verse to back it up

I wonder what's wrong with that ?
as in ehnnn some church pple get wahala

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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 9:29am On Sep 10, 2020
buchilino:


UR STATEMENT CLEARLY SHOWS UR POWERFULLY SINGLE
And being in a relationship makes u an expect ....your type looks for a woman u can dominate
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 9:29am On Sep 10, 2020
Essence20:

What's wrong is that a man isn't meant to submit to his wife, he should love the wife.
It's not a two way thing. Each has their different role to play and must stick to it regardless of the other's flaws.
It could be difficult but that's the injunction.
Did Christ not submit himself to the church ?
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Djyucee1(m): 9:29am On Sep 10, 2020
Well in this particular context, he is totally wrong
A wife aught to be submissive to his husband. The husband remains the Head of the home. This present generation sees submission as enslavery and that's wrong. In a home it is believed that both man and woman should be submissive to themselves because it a relationship and 2 cannot work unless they agree.
nedekid:

Ok. I understand you better.
But how are we sure daddy freeze does not have "divine wisdom of the Bible" to understand the scriptures?
After all he seems to make more sense than those chalatant pastors.

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