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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Essence20(m): 11:05am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:No, he didn't. He's coming to die for mankind is not necessarily submission to mankind. Christ is the head of the church just as a man should be the head of the family. Submission here has to do with yielding of control, and just as the church should yield control to Christ, a wife should yield control to the husband. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Sleekfingers: 11:13am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Freeze this, freeze that , all these useless always trying to be relevant......i bet most of them dont listen to freeze or they simply lack comprehension......i know freeze is not always right......but freeze is educating all those brainwashed xtians in nigeria......they keep saying that he is attacking the church.....how is he attacking the church? Is it because he dey the yansh of those scammers called pastors? Over 99, 9 % of nigeria pastors are scammers... Y'all hypocrites should listen to daddy freeze on 99,3fm mon-fri 10pm...... |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by petra1(m): 11:13am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Deborah98: UPANDAN. . |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 11:19am On Sep 10, 2020 |
janeedema:true wisdom! |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Deborah98(f): 11:21am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Okwyjesus:I wonder ooooh... |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Essence20(m): 11:22am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Joshmodest:Well, God created all things and the word 'submission' here is not insulting in any way. If you look closely at successful marriages, one or both parties must've somehow consciously or unconsciously heed this injunction. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Rebelutionary: 11:22am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:That's where freeze is wrong! Marriage mirrors the union between Christ and His Church! Christ is the Head of the Church just as the Husband is the Head over the woman! Christ LOVES His church and His Church SUBMITS to him exactly what should be mirrored in marriage! The Man LOVES his Wife and the Wife is to SUBMIT but the action of one is not dependent on the other I.e Wife SUBMIT whether he loves and Husband LOVE whether she submits. If you say the Husband should also SUBMIT to his wife and you saying Christ SUBMITS to the Church! |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Rapsodee(m): 11:24am On Sep 10, 2020 |
aaking:Amen and Amen. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Heavance(m): 11:27am On Sep 10, 2020 |
CodeTemplar:None of the two you mentioned. I was present in church when it was being preached. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by CodeTemplar: 11:32am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Heavance:See your life? Another pastor story is irrelevant here and is circumstantial at best if it ever happened. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 11:38am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Rebelutionary:Christ first submitted his life for the Church the the church submitted to Christ |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 11:39am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Essence20:What's more submissive than giving your life |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by LawLab247: 11:42am On Sep 10, 2020 |
PraiseGodNoTime: Lol. What to do na |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 11:44am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:christ didn't submit himself to the church but rather submitted to the father. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 11:47am On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:Jesus gave his life, first because It was the will of the father and secondly because he loved the church. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 11:56am On Sep 10, 2020 |
solite3:Of u love your wife u would submit to her as Christ submitted his life for us |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by obailala(m): 11:59am On Sep 10, 2020 |
JorgedeToledo:Freeze also quoted directly from the bible in plain English, no ambiguities. Except you're saying the authors of the bible made a mistake or are confused, I wonder what you mean by saying Freeze erred by merely quoting directly from the bible. The popular scripture we all know and quote is Ephesians 5:22-24. But what about verse 21? Freeze only drew attention to verse 21 by saying submission should really go both ways; even though the message is still very clear that the husband is the head of the wife/house. We really need to start studying the bible ourselves, instead of waiting for pastoral or public interpretation. Also we need to learn to accommodate the views of others, else just risk being 'bigots' if we think our interpretation is always the 'right' one and others are wrong.
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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 12:00pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Deborah98:“Scriptures upside down’’ May be may be not but what makes him stand out is is everly referral to the same scripture whenever he is making a point |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Rebelutionary: 12:06pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001:Nope Christ SUBMITTED TO THE WILL OF HIS FATHER AND BY SO DOING HE SHOWED HIS LOVE FOR THE WORLD FROM WHICH THE CHURCH IS CALLED OUT and in so doing the CHURCH SUBMITS TO HIM. Same thing is mirrored in marriage.. the husband is COMMANDED to LOVE, same thing for the WIFE TO SUBMIT. There is no contention... it is a balanced relationship! “Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church : and he is the saviour of the body. Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.” – Ephesians 5:22-24 1 Like |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by LawLab247: 12:12pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
anonimi: You are free to marry a rebellious woman. That's your own kettle of fish and definitely not my problem by any stretch. Thank you. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:18pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001: According to which scripture? What is Christ's relationship with d church? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:20pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
obailala: Who was verse 21 addressed to? Where did d issue of husband and wives start from in Ephesians 5? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:21pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001: According to which scripture? Is that what d Ephesians 5 u are arguing says? I thought u said u have read d Bible 12 times? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:24pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
obailala: D same Ephesians said d husband should love his wife as Christ loved d church. It also said that d husband is d head of d wife just as Christ is d head of d church. Did or does Christ submit to church? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by obailala(m): 12:26pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
lexy2014:Ephesians 5:21-33 was addressed to Christian households. The first instruction was "submit to one another". Even though the rest of the verses establish the family hierarchy very clearly (i.e. the man being the head), the very first instruction for Christian households is for couples to submit to each other. I don't think there's any ambiguity in this message, maybe people just chose to argue about it just for the sake of argument; or maybe because a character like Daddy Freeze is the one who highlighted it, several people just feel a compulsion to complicate a simple scripture.
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Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:28pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
obailala: Can u pls quote Ephesians 5:21 and show me d exact words that show that it was addressed to Christian households? Where did d issue of husband & wife begin in Ephesians 5? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by miketayo(m): 12:28pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
lexy2014:� Y r u lazy to check our previous comments, I quoted 21, 22 and 23. If u have something to say spill it, dancing around isn't taking u anywhere. |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Segzy19: 12:29pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
See issues like this have caused many African homes, especially Nigerians to be broken in the US, UK , Canada and other western countries... |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by Nobody: 12:29pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
lexy2014:Are we not to emulate Christ relationship with the church and live like that as husband n wife ? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:29pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
obailala: If u say that d man is d head, who is he d head of d woman according to Ephesians 5? |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by emperorzz(m): 12:30pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Deborah98: And some spiritual leaders need to work on the weakness to respond uncouthedly to him all the time. Haba! |
Re: Ben Akabueze Replies Daddy Freeze: "You Are Wrong" by lexy2014: 12:31pm On Sep 10, 2020 |
Igbochief001: U haven't answered my question. According to u: "What's more submissive than giving your life" According to which scripture? Is that what d Ephesians 5 u are arguing says? I thought u said u have read d Bible 12 times? |
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