Rebelutionary:

Nope Christ SUBMITTED TO THE WILL OF HIS FATHER AND BY SO DOING HE SHOWED HIS LOVE FOR THE WORLD FROM WHICH THE CHURCH IS CALLED OUT and in so doing the CHURCH SUBMITS TO HIM. Same thing is mirrored in marriage.. the husband is COMMANDED to LOVE, same thing for the WIFE TO SUBMIT. There is no contention... it is a balanced relationship!

“Wives, submit yourselves unto your own
husbands, as unto the Lord. For the husband is
the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of
the church : and he is the saviour of the body.
Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so
let the wives be to their own husbands in every
thing.” – Ephesians 5:22-24

miketayo:

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Y r u lazy to check our previous comments,
I quoted 21, 22 and 23.
If u have something to say spill it, dancing around isn't taking u anywhere.

adetunjioludami:

I'm married and we are very happy, Like I said it's a balance,let the husband obey his command and let the wife obeys her command also. The major issue a man has in life is to love, and Christ made it a command for him, the major issue a woman has also is to submit to a Man after she has been under the control of a man (her Dad) all her life. Submission to your woman comes easily when you are in love, think about it, your wife(if ure married) would tell you buy dis and dat and dat yl coming home and ull joyfully do it majorly out of the love you have for her. Now is that not submission in disguise?? Same way the husband would say let's do it dis way or dat way and the wife would gladly obey due to her submission to your authority, the authority she gave you because she loves you.
I hope you understand.

lexy2014:


U haven't answered my question. According to u:

"What's more submissive than giving your life"

According to which scripture? Is that what d Ephesians 5 u are arguing says? I thought u said u have read d Bible 12 times?

Igbochief001:

Of u love your wife u would submit to her as Christ submitted his life for us

lexy2014:


After reading d Bible 12 times, where in d Bible did u see that Christ submitted to d church? Can u pls quote d scripture?

Igbochief001:

Bros I'm not going to help u understand English

Ephesians 5 vs 21 is very clear ...but u chose to ignore it

Christ gave his life for the Church and the church submitted to Christ because of that

Igbochief001:
Daddy freeze never said wife's should not submit to the husband ...he only said it's a two way thing ...both husband and wife should submit to each other ....and gave a Bible verse to back it up

I wonder what's wrong with that ?

lexy2014:


Can u pls quote Ephesians 5:21 and show me d exact words that show that it was addressed to Christian households? Where did d issue of husband & wife begin in Ephesians 5?

lexy2014:


If u say that d man is d head, who is he d head of according to Ephesians 5?

lexy2014:


D same Ephesians said d husband should love his wife as Christ loved d church. It also said that d husband is d head of d wife just as Christ is d head of d church. Did or does Christ submit to church?

Igbochief001:

Have u listened to freeze or just hear say ?

CodeTemplar:
See your life? Another pastor story is irrelevant here and is circumstantial at best if it ever happened.

lexy2014:


Do u even understand your own English?
Ephesians 5:21 is very clear about what?

Is giving his life d same as submitting that u have been touting? Y did Christ give his life for d church? U said Christ submitted himself to d church as women are expected to submit to their husbands. Can u pls provide scriptures validate that point?

Igbochief001:

Define submission
No need even read Ephesians 5 vs 25

lexy2014:


Where u quoted is it d same thing as submission as used in Ephesians 5:22&24? Did Ephesians 5:25 say that Christ submitted to d church? I think u should be d one to define submission cos it seems u are using a very special dictionary

Igbochief001:

Don't quote me wrong I said the man should submit to the wife as the wife submit to the man too ...it's a two way thing

Ephesians 5 vs 25 was clear ...Christ gave up his life for the Church ...if that's not submission then I don't know what it is

lexy2014:


That still doesn't answer d questions I asked:

"I didn't ask u if it's about love. I asked is Ephesians 5 about husband & wife? Pls quote verse 21& tell me how verse 21 is about husband & wife & how husband & wife issue started from verse 21? Pls explain how Ephesians 5 :1-21 and d entire Ephesians 5 is about love?"

lexy2014:


Do u even understand your own English?
Ephesians 5:21 is very clear about what?

Is giving his life d same as submitting that u have been touting? Y did Christ give his life for d church? U said Christ submitted himself to d church as women are expected to submit to their husbands. Can u pls provide scriptures validate that point?

Igbochief001:

Why leave out vs 21

Why because it's goes against your idea ...why leave out the first instruction

miketayo:


If u can't read verse 21 I quoted for u before or open ur bible den I can't help you

lexy2014:


Where in d Bible did it say that man should submit to his wife? How is Christ giving up his life submission? Is that what Ephesians 5:25 says? Where in d Bible did it say that Christ submitted himself to d church?

lexy2014:


According to u:

"Define submission
No need even read Ephesians 5 vs 25"

Where u quoted is it d same thing as submission as used in Ephesians 5:22&24? Did Ephesians 5:25 say that Christ submitted to d church? I think u should be d one to define submission cos it seems u are using a very special dictionary.

In Ephesians 5:21, did it refer to husbands and wives?

Igbochief001:

Bros stop misquoting me

Ephesians 5 vs 21 was the starting of the instructions ....the first condition was that both submit themselves to one another. ...under Christ ...

Then 25 it likened the husband relationship to the wife as Christ and the church ...

Now I'm extrapolating to 21 again telling that even Christ obeyed 21 order as he submitted himself to the church by dying for them

If u don't get it's no longer my problem

Igbochief001:

Ephesians 5 vs 21 refered to husband and wife can u rest now ?

lexy2014:



I didn't misquote u. I only asked u questions which u haven't � able to answer.


Do u even understand your own English?
Ephesians 5:21 is very clear about what?

Is giving his life d same as submitting that u have been touting? Y did Christ give his life for d church? U said Christ submitted himself to d church as women are expected to submit to their husbands. Can u pls provide scriptures validate that point?

Where in d Bible did it say that by dying for d church, Christ submitted to d church?

Igbochief001:

Ephesians 5 vs 21 said both husband and wife should submit to each other......is that not clear ?

lexy2014:


Where in Ephesians 5:21 did it say "husbands & wives"?

lexy2014:


Pls quote d scripture in Ephesians 5:21 and show me where it specifically said "both husbands and wives should submit to each other".

Igbochief001:

I never said Christ submitted himself to d church as women are expected to submit to their husbands .....I said as man is expected to submit to his wife

Are u asking me to ignore vs 21 when talking about husband and wife ?

Igbochief001:

Now I'm extrapolating to 21 again telling that even Christ obeyed 21 order as he submitted himself to the church by dying for them

Igbochief001:

Really ? Who was he talking to in Ephesians 5 vs 21 if not husband n wife

The heading is clear

lexy2014:


U never said Christ submitted himself to church. What is this?:



Where in d Bible did it say that by dying for d church, Christ submitted himself to d church?