Calling Someone A Bastard On the Church Alter....Settling scores on the church Alter Desecrates the Alter

Matthew 5:22-23
New International Version
22 But I tell you that anyone who is angry with a brother or sister will be subject to judgment. ....... And anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.
23 “Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother or sister has something against you
24 leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to them; then come and offer your gift

Requirements to officiate as An Overseer/Bishop/Deacons Laid by the Early Apostles

1 Timothy 3:2 NKJV
A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior hospitable, able to teach;

1 Timothy 3:2
NIV
Now the overseer is to be above reproach, faithful to his wife,temperate, self-controlled, respectable, hospitable, able to teach,

Jesus Did Not Command Evil for Evil....Rather he said the Law says Curse your enemies but I, jesus says Bless your Enemy....

This should get to front page.

When a.pastor sounds like a thug

Noise.If I slap your father in your front of you will you tell him to turn the other side.

Altar that was designed to preached the Gospel of Christ has now be turned the altar of issuing threat to the critics cos' they don't agree to your teachings. Bishop David ibiyiomie of Salvation Ministry should be questioned by the DSS for issuing death threat to his critics. Really truths is bittered. The Bible said that judgement will start from the Church. Bishop David ibiyiomie should ask for forgiveness from God cos' of his clueless statements he issued out on the Altar against his critics. He's even calling his critics Daddy freeze a bastard. They have turned the church of God to their business venture.

surgebitcoin:
Noise.If I slap your father in your front of you will you tell him to turn the other side.

Jesus command to settle scores is now a noise...
Oyedepo is now your father that they slap
Oya tell us how they slap your father o

Benbellamor:
Calling Someone A Bastard On the Church Alter....Settling scores on the church Alter Desecrates the Alter

Any Christian who is not submitted to Church authority is already a bastard . Anyone who will insult his elders is A BASTARD

Hebrews 12:8
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

1 Timothy 5:1
1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;

Jesus Did Not Command Evil for Evil....Rather he said the Law says Curse your enemies but I, jesus says Bless your Enemy....

A minister can pronounce judgement on those who trouble the church .



1 Corinthians 5:5
5 . . .To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

1Timothy 1:20
20 Of whom is Hymenaeus and Alexander; whom I have delivered unto Satan, that they may learn not to blaspheme.

petra1:


Any Christian who is not submitted to Church authority is already a bastard . Anyone who will insult his elders is A BASTARD

[color=#770077]Hebrews 12:8
8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.
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Bastard here does not fit into your analogy at all....Old king james version Used bastard But the New King James version used Illegitimate ....Just like Non jews ....before christ ransom death open the way for gentiles like yourself .you yourself you are illegitimate because jews have the first kingdom calling..Are you a true sons of isreal, Does that makes you a Bastard? Non jews who are illegitimate who circumcise have parents ...this is quite different from the derogatory Calling of bastard on the alter...that's why New King James Replaced it with Illegitimate...
Let's read the full verse...its not a.derogatory bastard/illegitimate ...

Hebrews 12:6-8
6 For whom the Lord loves He chastens,
And scourges every son whom He receives.”
7 If you endure chastening, God deals with you as with sons; for what son is there whom a father does not chasten? 8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

Becoming partakers here means that not only jews now but we illegitimate jews or in your quote we Gentiles are bastard partakers of Gods call....how does it sounds?

Study bible verses well before quoting
Calling someone a bastard on the Alter is an insult to Jesus who is the head of the church
Jesus Never command it

You keep quoting out of context
The verse you quoted is discipline Within the Church....An overseer has no authority to stand on the Alter and to utter gutter language
1 Corinthians 5:5'..was a response from Apostle Paul to the commitee of leaders who refused to punish a member that was fornicating with his fathers wife
Paul is telling the commitee to do the needful....internal dicipline....this can be found in the verse 1 and 2 of the same chapter 5 of 1 Corinthians

5
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken out...

5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

petra1:



A minister can pronounce judgement on those who trouble the church .



1 Corinthians 5:5
5 . . .To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day ..

Verse 5 was highlighting the fact that if such fornicator is punished...his soul might be saved....which is a correction done with saving the soul of the sinner

This is different from 'Erroneously Cursing a.day someone WHO IS NOT A MEMBER of your church ...was born Again Decrarating the Alter

Deliver to satan here is Not a Curse..........it means TO DISCIPLINE an erring member....EXCOMMUNICATE ...

1 Timothy 1:20
of whom are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I delivered to Satan that they may learn not to blaspheme.

How do we know
The last part of the verse concludes that....so that they may LEARN....
The same goes with the second bible you quoted

1 Corinthians 5:5
5 . . .To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.

"may be saved" the keyword here is to correct an erring member so that he or she can be saved....this does not Include NON Church members
Overseer Has the responsibility to be BLAMELESS AMONG NON CHURCH MEMBERS
1 Timothy 3:5,6
7 He (Bishop) must also have a good reputation with outsiders, so that he will not fall into disgrace and into the devil’s trap.

8 In the same way, deacons[b] are to be worthy of respect, sincere, not indulging in much wine, and not pursuing dishonest gain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWxxQhj_4U8

Anyone can claim to be called by God.

Just have the ability to convince people to follow you.

Set up your business, sorry church branch.

Promise your customers, sorry members, that if they part with their income, multiple blessings await them. Even money they never worked for will appear in their accounts.

If they are too wise to fall for that, threaten them that they will be thrown into hell fire if they disobey your commands since God sent you.

Anyhow Anyhow, something must drop for the business, sorry ministry, to keep moving.

Benbellamor:
You keep quoting out of context

The verse you quoted is discipline Within the Church....An overseer has no authority to stand on the Alter and to utter gutter language
1 Corinthians 5:5'..was a response from Apostle Paul to the commitee of leaders who refused to punish a member that was fornicating with his fathers wife
Paul is telling the commitee to do the needful....internal dicipline....this can be found in the verse 1 and 2 of the same chapter 5 of 1 Corinthians

5
It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.

2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken out...

5 To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.


Verse 5 was highlighting the fact that if such fornicator is punished...his soul might be saved....which is a correction done with saving the soul of the sinner

This is different from 'Erroneously Cursing a.day someone WHO IS NOT A MEMBER of your church ...was born Again Decrarating the Alter

Well spotted. People find it easier to keep quoting out of context. It is a practice, otherwise known as "proof-texting"

surgebitcoin:
Noise.If I slap your father in your front of you will you tell him to turn the other side.

He is not Oyedepo's, son,...... I doubt if Oyedepo's children will behave in such an ill manner? ...
Daddy Freeze has shown his parents, let ibiomiye show his own father, let people know who the real bastard is,...abi him no know the meaning of bastard?

desiredhome:

He is not Oyedepo's, son,...... I doubt if Oyedepo's children will behave in such a manner? ...
Daddy Freeze has shown his parents, let ibiomiye show his own father, let people know who the real bastard is,...abi him no know the meaning of bastard?

Thats another grey Area
A pastor has to open lie, that he has no father
we all thought these pastors are spirit filled

Benbellamor:
Thats another grey Area
A pastor has to open lie, that he has no father
we all thought these pastors are spirit filled

He ended up disgracing/embarrassing the person he is defending....that is how God works...
Oyedepo now having thugs as his children