proeast:


Lol, funny people. At the first bold part, your assertion is quite ridiculous to say the least. Do you even know that during colonial times, most Nigerians were just illiterate farmers, hunters, petty traders and other basic vocations. So anyone who was working with the British either as Messengers or interpreters were relatively highly regarded. These were highly sought after jobs but the British would only employ those that are competent which made most of those jobs to be taken by Igbos. These set of people will eventually form bulk of the elite and their children ended up being educated and enlightened.

The second bold part is another indictment on Awolowo. Ziks party, the NCNC won a majority in the Western region. Zik as the leader of the party was naturally expected to become the premier of the Western region. Remember that at this same period in the East, an Ibibio man, I think his name is Eyo Ita, was also about to become the premier of Eastern region where Igbos are the overwhelming majority. What did Awo did? Instead of accepting that his party did not win enough seats for him to be the premier of Western region, he resorted to tribalism. This was actually how tribalism and ethnocentrism became a major criteria for one to qualify for any political position. Awo called a meeting of his people and told them that Zik is omo Igbo and shouldn't be allowed to become their premier. This was how the infamous cross-carpeting of Yoruba NCNC to AG occurred. If Zik was allowed to become the Western premier and Eyo Ita as premier of Eastern region, today, all these tribalism that has rubbished our claim as a nation wouldn't have taken hold.

Lastly, you said that Buhari has shown that anyone can become president without Igbo support. Well, yes, I agree with you but also remember that anyone can become president without Yoruba support. All the North needs to do to win any election is to either team up with Igbos or Yorubas. So, your point here too is baseless.

DerideGull:


You written like person who had metal difficulties as child. There was condition for betrayal in east hence the warrant chiefs who were tax collectors. The east was too hot for Europeans that mere tax collection could lead to unpleasant scene therefore Europeans elected to have go-betweens. In addition, warrant chiefs did not become Eze or Obi in Igbo land. For your information, most of the so-called warrant chiefs were not sons of the soil therefore were living on borrowed time.

masseratti:
oga all banks were owned either by regional governments or federal governments, Barclay's bank, now union bank was never owned by any Yoruba man but by FG until recently its shares like that of 1st bank was sold to the public in 2000s.stop lying go and read your book, the archives are there.

proeast:



The second bold part is another indictment on Awolowo. Ziks party, the NCNC won a majority in the Western region. Zik as the leader of the party was naturally expected to become the premier of the Western region. Remember that at this same period in the East, an Ibibio man, I think his name is Eyo Ita, was also about to become the premier of Eastern region where Igbos are the overwhelming majority. What did Awo did? Instead of accepting that his party did not win enough seats for him to be the premier of Western region, he resorted to tribalism. This was actually how tribalism and ethnocentrism became a major criteria for one to qualify for any political position. Awo called a meeting of his people and told them that Zik is omo Igbo and shouldn't be allowed to become their premier. This was how the infamous cross-carpeting of Yoruba NCNC to AG occurred. If Zik was allowed to become the Western premier and Eyo Ita as premier of Eastern region, today, all these tribalism that has rubbished our claim as a nation wouldn't have taken hold.

proeast:


So all you could come up with is the emotional drivels??
Go and read about the Indignization decree and facts surrounding it then come back and quote me.

Meanwhile look at the attached file for some heads up.

T9ksy:



Abegi, produce the election result that shows clearly that the said NCNC, won the premiership election in western nigeria in 1951 or else just shut the phock up,

Why are you ibos still wailing 7 decades after the fact that the yorubas didn't allowed their main enemy to be in charge of their political affairs?

Why didn't the "omo ibo" that was born in the north attempt to became premier where he was born?

Was it not "tribalism" that would make an ibo man contemplate been in charge of his rival's region?

proeast:


I hate blind argument. I know you guys are just arguing blindly because the truth is too bitter to accept, especially to people who lacks the maturity that comes with honesty.

Pls go through the excerpt I attached below, it is a New York Times publication that was released in the 1970's.

T9ksy:



Hell NO!!! The word "shame" is an alien concept in his part of the world.

DerideGull:




Point of correction. Samuel Ladoke Akintola committed suicide. Isaac Adaka Boro was killed by a Yari.ba egocentric loudmouth. Sardauna and wife were killed by one of them.


Do you have slightest fact about the circumstances surrounding the death of above mentioned characters?

proeast:


So all you could come up with is the emotional drivels??
Go and read about the Indignization decree and facts surrounding it then come back and quote me.

Meanwhile look at the attached file for some heads up.

masseratti:
lolzzz i just cant understand why someone will wake up in the morning and formulate lies, its amazing.

T9ksy:



They are genetically wired with the morality of an alley cat hence they spew gibberish, effortlessly.

masseratti:
stop turning history upside-down, trying to re write your own online, internet never forget,

No1 NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay, its not Zik party.
NCNC is as much a yoruba party than any other region party in the South, the Oba of lagos was a staunch supporter as well as many others, after Herbert Died Zik who was the second in command took over.

No2 Awo and Herbert Macaulay had no love lost relationship with themselves till he died, Awo had nothing personal with Zik.. He founded his own party Macaulay NCNC and Awo's AG already had political issues before Zik came to the scene.

No 3 no one cross carpeted from NCNC to AG.
None of the two popular party could could form a government with the number of seats they won, only a "coalition" could form a government, it was a parliament and to form a government there is a number of seats a party must win in parliament, Awo'AG and Zik's NCNC didn't win the required seat, AG formed "coalition" with a small party and got the required seat to form government, please how is that a betrayal? ZIK did the same thing on the national level when he formed coalition government with the hausa/Fulani party, did anyone cried betrayal?

No4, no one stopped zik from becoming premiere in the most richest region in the country, he lost out in politics, you forgot Zik betrayed his constituents in Yaba lagos who are mostly Yorubas who voted for him, he abandoned the mandate they gave him, went to the east, made igbo in parliament to make Eyo Ettah to give up his seat, a member from onitsha had to give up his seat too for Zik to be a member of Eastern parliament and subsequently be elected the premier, all the history are at the national archive.

You cant rewrite history, stop lying we wont exposing you, no one is perfect, no tribe is perfect but stop lying, its not good for your health.

proeast:


They're obviously not good managers. People that has owambe and Jaye-Jaye attitude to life can't possibly be good managers. It becomes worse when such a person or people are giving big businesses and companies to manage at short notice.

It will definitely go downhill and that's what happened when Awo handed them all those companies on a platter of gold.

How can you give such person loan and still ask him to use the same loan to buy huge companies he obviously can't run efficiently?

Remember that Nigeria was at par with many of the Asian countries then. After that Indignization decree of 1972, the foundation of our economy was destroyed and we never recovered from it because it was structural. On the other hand, most of those Asian countries are economic Giants today.

horsepower102:


But both sides cannot be right at the same time. Trust me I enjoy decorum too but one side is trying to maintain lies while the other side is trying to expose it.

I have said similar things in the past about the Nigerian economy when the Yorubas completely took over. They destroyed the economy with their Hausa Fulani masters.

It’s was finally during OBJ administration that he smartly put few Igbos in key positions. That’s when some progress started being made.

Majority of the companies that they stole during indigenization policy are bankrupt and looted.

Rugaria:


Loot, i loot democracy..

T9ksy:



Abegi, produce the election result that shows clearly that the said NCNC, won the premiership election in western nigeria in 1951 or else just shut the phock up,

Why are you ibos still wailing 7 decades after the fact that the yorubas didn't allowed their main enemy to be in charge of their political affairs?

Why didn't the "omo ibo" that was born in the north attempt to became premier where he was born?

Was it not "tribalism" that would make an ibo man contemplate been in charge of his rival's region?

orisa37:




You don't know IPOB. IPOB is not about DEMOCRACY. It's VENGIANCE.

lionshare:
@proeast did you read the attachment before posting it. It’s fine to argue but you should bring facts to the table...it’s on record that awo resigned before the policy was executed. Please counter that with facts, no insults pls just debates. Everyone has tendencies to be bias but we cannot claim to be civil & educated and yet argue with facts.

kayfra:
[s]With a name such as Proeast. No wonder he sounds demented[/s]

proeast:


This was a Businessday editorial writing by a Yoruba.
Nobody is arguing that Zik formed NCNC, rather it was Macaulay that formed it but Zik became its leader during that point in time yet it didn't stop Awo from playing the tribalism card.

solmusdesigns:


Lol


For him to write all this long epistle we need proof as this is Nairaland and not Biafla Facebook propaganda page

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masseratti:
stop turning history upside-down, trying to re write your own online, internet never forget,

No1 NCNC was founded by a Yoruba man Herbert Macaulay, its not Zik party.

NCNC is as much a yoruba party than any other region party in the South, the Oba of lagos was a staunch supporter as well as many others, after Herbert Died Zik who was the second in command took over.

No2 Awo and Herbert Macaulay had no love lost relationship with themselves till he died, Awo had nothing personal with Zik.. He founded his own party Macaulay NCNC and Awo's AG already had political issues before Zik came to the scene.

[b]No 3 no one cross carpeted from NCNC to AG.
None of the two popular party could could form a government with the number of seats they won, only a "coalition" could form a government, it was a parliament and to form a government there is a number of seats a party must win in parliament, Awo'AG and Zik's NCNC didn't win the [/b]required seat, AG formed "coalition" with a small party and got the required seat to form government, please how is that a betrayal? ZIK did the same thing on the national level when he formed coalition government with the hausa/Fulani party, did anyone cried betrayal?

No4, no one stopped zik from becoming premiere in the most richest region in the country, he lost out in politics, you forgot Zik betrayed his constituents in Yaba lagos who are mostly Yorubas who voted for him, he abandoned the mandate they gave him, went to the east, made igbo in parliament to make Eyo Ettah to give up his seat, a member from onitsha had to give up his seat too for Zik to be a member of Eastern parliament and subsequently be elected the premier, all the history are at the national archive.

You cant rewrite history, stop lying we wont exposing you, no one is perfect, no tribe is perfect but stop lying, its not good for your health.

chrisblack:
what do you even understand by the indigenization decree. Many of you just go on shouting about things you know nothing about. Twisting facts.Bringing up stories to suit your narratives.Since independence there As been a clamour for the shit in ownership of economic power from the colonialists to Nigerians.Despite been freed Nigeria was still economically colonized.Go back an read your history proper.

NEPC 1972. NEPC decree of 1972 was a legislation to effect changes in the ownership structure of light industries such as retail and small scale businesses. ... A new bank, the Nigerian bank of Commerce and Industry came into existence to facilitate loans to Nigerians for the purpose of investing in foreign owned firms.
Even the Government full implementation of the law was more pronounced during obasanjos era as head of state. You can check the New York times take on the issue https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/30/archives/nigerias-indigenization-policy-under-fire.html
During this time it was not only Nigeria that was involved in this process.Many freed african countries had their own from outright nationalization to indigenization.Nigeria chooses that part because it believed 40% ownership was fair to the Foreigner.even today many of you shouting are the first to ask for control in your own local domain.it takes various toga like resource control. It's same. Re writing history to suit your lies is a waste of time. During the indigenization period many Nigerians including the easterners jubilated and bought into it. Please I don't need to tell you to stop propagating your lies. The truth is it will fetch you nothing

DerideGull:


I really do not understand why certain cretins in Nigeria love to make fool of themselves publicly. Herbert Macaulay was invited by Azikiwe to join the factional NYM and trade unions which in the process to NCNC. The party NCNC was not formed by Nigerians alone hence National Council of Nigeria and Cameroons. Macaulay's NNDP had been rendered useless by NYM in the Lagos Legislative Council election and party ceased to exist as a political party.

masseratti:
here comes another liar.

No 1..NYM you quoted was formed by Eyo ita.
How can you be a factional head of NYM and you "invited someone to come and be a founder of a party? Doesn't make sense oga.. Stop lying.

chrisblack:
what do you even understand by the indigenization decree. Many of you just go on shouting about things you know nothing about. Twisting facts.Bringing up stories to suit your narratives.Since independence there As been a clamour for the shit in ownership of economic power from the colonialists to Nigerians.Despite been freed Nigeria was still economically colonized.Go back an read your history proper.

NEPC 1972. NEPC decree of 1972 was a legislation to effect changes in the ownership structure of light industries such as retail and small scale businesses. ... A new bank, the Nigerian bank of Commerce and Industry came into existence to facilitate loans to Nigerians for the purpose of investing in foreign owned firms.
Even the Government full implementation of the law was more pronounced during obasanjos era as head of state. You can check the New York times take on the issue https://www.nytimes.com/1976/10/30/archives/nigerias-indigenization-policy-under-fire.html
During this time it was not only Nigeria that was involved in this process.Many freed african countries had their own from outright nationalization to indigenization.Nigeria chooses that part because it believed 40% ownership was fair to the Foreigner.even today many of you shouting are the first to ask for control in your own local domain.it takes various toga like resource control. It's same. Re writing history to suit your lies is a waste of time. During the indigenization period many Nigerians including the easterners jubilated and bought into it. Please I don't need to tell you to stop propagating your lies. The truth is it will fetch you nothing

candidtalk:



You guys have time sha. Igbos are singularly the most shamelessly dishonest ethnic group, out of over 300, in Nigeria.

Lying childishly and shamelessly, plus revising history fraudulently, is second nature to Igbos. Buhari has been replaced by Jubrin. Trump is ready to declare Biafra, UN about to decree the existence of Biafra, Igbos own 99% of Lagos, Accra and Joburg etal.

Their lies are so shamelessly senseless that one can only feel pity for those who take seriously whatever an Igbo writes or asserts. This mumbo jumbo thread is simply another false narrative, out of literally millions, the Igbos create in cyberspace daily to blame Yorubas for everything and assassinate our character before the world. Nothing new really.

DerideGull:


Macaulay did not FORM NCNC. Herbert Macaulay was instrumental in the formation of NNDP which fielded many candidates for seats in Lagos legislative council. The party's candidates were trashed by the candidates fielded by Zik's Nigerian Youth Movement. During formative hours of NCNC, Zik invited Herbart Macaulay to join the process. At this juncture, NNDP ceased to exit as a political party however the name was invoked in 1964 when SL Akintola formed another party in western region and named it NNDP.