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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:24pm On Sep 13, 2020
Mayor78:


But here you are, goading Brabus for work, I hope you wont recluse when the offer comes. I you have been advised to post video of where you are working either in your workshop or at site since you have talked of moving to site to do work if the work is big and money is right. If you kept posting finished works from different fabricators in different workshops and passing same as your hand work, without showing us videos of at least on gate or door you are constructing or where you have installed your work, I and many here would remain unconvinced.


I have nothing against michlins but I think he needs to take a chill and understand that people are smart.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 2:37pm On Sep 13, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


The higher, numerically, the gauge the stronger it is.

"I" don't use .45 anymore because I think they are too light of a weight, every crease shows and it crumples easily. The .55 gauge is thicker and is a little bit more resistant to bad handling.

Now I've never used steptiles version, only long span so maybe what you'll find there are that steps tile by pressing is more resistance to the creases I mentioned.

I don't go cheap on foundation and roofing since they're harder to correct oversights.

Good luck. Maybe contact a local roofer to you. Give him a token to advice you what is available locally.

PS: One trick I learnt is to use .45 for the roof but .55 for the trims. But please I'm no roofer, so check with the pros.

EgunMogaji,

You have spoken well. I will take this to heart. Will stick to the 0.55mm thickness.

I am grateful for the advice.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:37pm On Sep 13, 2020
n3xt:


I have nothing against michlins but I think he needs to take a chill and understand that people are smart.

so I asked that I review my quotes upwards,does that qualify me as fraud?

I will gladly turn down a job if the pricing is poor instead of going into it and stopping half way because of paucity of funds

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 2:39pm On Sep 13, 2020
Muyi002:


EgunMogaji,

You have spoken well. I will take this to heart. Will stick to the 0.55mm thickness.

I am grateful for the advice.

You're welcome Sir, we're all in this together.

The minimum gauge I will ever use is .55 and in fact my next build is asking for .7

Good luck on your project.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 2:46pm On Sep 13, 2020
michlins:
so I asked that I review my quotes upwards,does that qualify me as fraud?

I will gladly turn down a job if the pricing is poor instead of going into it and stopping half way because of paucity of funds


Baba just chill out. It’s your birthday!

If only you know what the above cost me, you’ll understand scrutinizing a service provider is beyond lip service.

I had to convince my client on why the people who we engaged to work on site can’t go ahead with plan.

I had to discuss with another welder to take up the project at a higher cost.

I had to adjust the project schedule to allow for the new change. We were meant to have a welder working on site but we ended up giving the job to someone working offsite.

The effect is beyond imagination.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 2:50pm On Sep 13, 2020
n3xt:



Baba just chill out. It’s your birthday!

If only you know what the above cost me, you’ll understand scrutinizing a service provider is beyond lip service.

I had to convince my client on why the people who we engaged to work on site can’t go ahead with plan.

I had to discuss with another welder to take up the project at a higher cost.

I had to adjust the project schedule to allow for the new change. We were meant to have a welder working on site but we ended up giving the job to someone working offsite.

The effect is beyond imagination.

I'm sorry for the inconveniences caused you. You could have still given me the job at my own cost and I will still do it at your site and within same timing.

Once again, I'm so sorry for the inconveniences caused by that
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dongc(m): 2:50pm On Sep 13, 2020
The cheap one you are selling are they wrought iron?...does wrought iron come in sheets Or just the bars..you keep saying this to fool those that don't know..Man I dont want do this again....let me exit again and lay low like I have always done...Goodluck



michlins:
your doors are outdated in terms of design and I stand by my statement. The future of my work is wrought. I know some day, wrought will be old design but until then.....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 2:54pm On Sep 13, 2020
michlins:
so I asked that I review my quotes upwards,does that qualify me as fraud?

I will gladly turn down a job if the pricing is poor instead of going into it and stopping half way because of paucity of funds
Rather that's what get most people into trouble. They collect way below what could complete the job and get hooked in the middle of the job.
You are very correct. It's best to decline a job when the pricing is too low.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rajput4real93: 3:00pm On Sep 13, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I will always challenge your prices when you don't specify exactly what you are selling and try to pass it off as that your prices are better.

You are making inferior products and trying to pass it off as being equal to those costing more. You don't use stronger pressed top and side frames.

Just simply advertise that you make low cost doors. Those doors are available all over Nigeria, you're offering nothing special.

How many of those doors have you sold on here? Personally, I think you're a fraud at best but maybe just an ordinary scammer.
This is too harsh. The man has committed no crime and you tagged him a fraudster/scammer. You always talk as if members here are your dependants. Your comments and manners are nothing to write home about

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 3:01pm On Sep 13, 2020
This have quickly turned to michilins show grin grin

But man got a thick skin tho, grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:02pm On Sep 13, 2020
michlins:
so I asked that I review my quotes upwards,does that qualify me as fraud?

I will gladly turn down a job if the pricing is poor instead of going into it and stopping half way because of paucity of funds

I’m here to help you bro. Believe, you’ll run into big issues if you don’t get your pricing right.

Take a chill and try to understand the dynamics of this work.

At what point did you realize the pricing is poor?

Did I ever negotiate your offers?

Am I not the one telling you your prices are too low? I think I did that about two or three times before I decided to make commitment for the project because I know your pricing are too low and I expect you to do your due dilligence.

Hmm!

I’m dropping mic on this one too!

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 3:04pm On Sep 13, 2020
rajput4real93:

This is too harsh. The man has committed no crime and you tagged him a fraudster/scammer. You always talk as if members here are your dependants. Your comments and manners are nothing to write home about

Agreed!! That was very harsh.

Personally I think they are making it difficult for michillins to prove himself, one was requesting a video of him working? What else do they need, a stool sample?

I don't recall anyone ever been pushed like this, the only thing people say is open your thread to showcase your work.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 3:04pm On Sep 13, 2020
Shey site oni daru bayi? grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:16pm On Sep 13, 2020
n3xt:


I’m here to help you bro. Believe, you’ll run into big issues if you don’t get your pricing right.

Take a chill and try to understand the dynamics of this work.

At what point did you realize the pricing is poor?

Did I ever negotiate your offers?

Am I not the one telling you your prices are too low? I think I did that about two or three times before I decided to make commitment for the project because I know your pricing are too low and I expect you to do your due dilligence.

Hmm!

I’m dropping mic on this one too!


if you haven't made a mistake at pricing,then kudos. I made a mistake and I realized that and told you that I can't do it again. Good thing is that I realized earlier before you committed funds saving us some trouble. You should know that if I was a fraud, I would have accepted your offer and ran but I am not one so I told you that I can't do it again.

I'm sorry for the inconveniences caused

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 3:19pm On Sep 13, 2020
I think the issue here regarding michilins is no one here have previously worked with him to offer testimony.

But regardless, that doesn't mean he is a fraud.. let's drill this down, just writing objectively.

Most of the clients and pros on this forums are domiciled in the Lagos- Oyo- Ogun states axis and they are more likely to come here and give testimony of someone because the chances of working with them are high.

If you are considering a build in the East and are asking for a reference, everyone will be pointing to spyder880, not because he is the only builder in the SE, he is one of the few that I know that update their threads regularly and have worked in other regions of the country so people have crossed part with him and can offer lavish testimony on his behalf. There are other trusted builders domiciled in the SE region but they are not nairalanders and some that are, don't update their threads regularly.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by megacontrol(m): 3:19pm On Sep 13, 2020
Back to the pending cement price increment matter...
We have been waiting for cement delivery for some days now and its no-show.

Is there a cement distributor here that can supply 200 bags of cement to Lekki by tomorrow? Any brand will do at this point.
Can push it up to 300bags to stockpile if that is your minimum order quantity.

There seems to be a dearth of suppliers here nowadays, hope someone can come though.

If you have a plug that's offline, pls drop their contact and i'll reach out to them.

Thanks

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:20pm On Sep 13, 2020
Badgers14:


Agreed!! That was very harsh.

Personally I think they are making it difficult for michillins to prove himself, one was requesting a video of him working? What else do they need, a stool sample?

I don't recall anyone ever been pushed like this, the only thing people say is open your thread to showcase your work.
I have asked someone that I do five doors and send to his location using an escrow. I don't know what else una want me to do biko. My business is young but that's not a reason for people to make it too difficult for me to get clients
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 3:23pm On Sep 13, 2020
michlins:
I have been here trying to prove my integrity for months, I have had deals on Nairaland with no single report of crime which anyone can confirm. All these times that I sold phones, not one single person called me out as a scammer. Why should I start now.

You guys should remember that I'm still a human being and I have emotions. On a day I just want to celebrate and have fun, someone came for me again. Why can't he let today pass and come back tomorrow

I think you are having a rough and unjustified rough patch and ride. From most of the post directed at you, it is not difficult to see you are being cyber bullied. This is no longer crytical analysis. This is bulling.

I have followed your dignified responses and I wish to offer my support to your effort and encourage you in finding honest enterprise.

You answered and supplied all requested information eloquently and some have turned around and use this against you. How can a common welder speak and write so eloquently. Don't be discouraged na Naija way. Superiority complex with some Nigerians na 5 and 6.

You post pictures, no you must post from cloud. You post concept designs, no you must post all doors from one location. It is never enough. Don't be discouraged. Life is a science. If you are out for honest enterprise, trust me, success will find you. And it will be like magic.

You have not done anything wrong in your response to queries concerning your work so I openly condem any unfounded labeling you as fraudulent. I stand by you and support you in finding honest enterprise.

I recognise you are a human being. I recognise you are trying to find honest enterprise. So be encouraged.

We all need a break or two and a kind (Chi) kindred spirit to make it in life. Say "yes" and your chi will say yes. Those whose palm karnel has been cracked by a benevolent spirit, should not forget to be humble (and kind).

Happy Birthday and many happy returns.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 3:24pm On Sep 13, 2020
michlins:
I have asked someone that I do five doors and send to his location using an escrow. I don't know what else una want me to do biko. My business is young but that's not a reason for people to make it too difficult for me to get clients

No worries man. That's life.

Someone said, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger.

Lil Wayne said in his song drop the world,.. All this bullśhít makes me a strong Mótherfûcker grin

Be strong, keep it honest and your time to shine will come.

Ukwa ruo oge ya oda!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 3:25pm On Sep 13, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


You're welcome Sir, we're all in this together.

The minimum gauge I will ever use is .55 and in fact my next build is asking for .7

Good luck on your project.

The information i have on 0.7mm is that it can only go on long span due to its thickness.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 3:27pm On Sep 13, 2020
diordaves:


I think you are having a rough and unjustified rough patch and ride. From most of the post directed at you, it is not difficult to see you are being cyber bullied. This is no longer crytical analysis. This is bulling.

I have followed your dignified responses and I wish to offer my support to your effort and encourage you in finding honest enterprise.

You answered and supplied all requested information eloquently and some have turned around and use this against you. How can a common welder speak and write so eloquently. Don't be discouraged na Naija way. Superiority complex with some Nigerians na 5 and 6.

You post pictures, no you must post from cloud. You post concept designs, no you must post all doors from one location. It is never enough. Don't be discouraged. Life is a science. If you are out for honest enterprise, trust me, success will find you. And it will be like magic.

You have not done anything wrong in your response to queries concerning your work so I openly condem any unfounded labeling you as fraudulent. I stand by you and support you in finding honest enterprise.

I recognise you are a human being. I recognise you are trying to find honest enterprise. So be encouraged.

We all need a break or two and a kind (Chi) kindred spirit to make it in life. Say "yes" and your chi will say yes. Those whose palm karnel has been cracked by a benevolent spirit, should not forget to be humble (and kind).

Happy Birthday and many happy returns.

Very well said. I like your objective reasoning!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:28pm On Sep 13, 2020
michlins:
if you haven't made a mistake at pricing,then kudos. I made a mistake and I realized that and told you that I can't do it again. Good thing is that I realized earlier before you committed funds saving us some trouble. You should know that if I was a fraud, I would have accepted your offer and ran but I am not one so I told you that I can't do it again.

I'm sorry for the inconveniences caused

Honestly, I’m not bothered or worried. That’s why I still send you a new job that can be done offsite.

I’ll definitely get back to you on that.

Regards

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 3:36pm On Sep 13, 2020
I am actually expecting someone to ask michilins to post a picture of himself so they can verify he has hairs on his chest and not a fraud grin grin

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:36pm On Sep 13, 2020
diordaves:


I think you are having a rough and unjustified rough patch and ride. From most of the post directed at you, it is not difficult to see you are being cyber bullied. This is no longer crytical analysis. This is bulling.

I have followed your dignified responses and I wish to offer my support to your effort and encourage you in finding honest enterprise.

You answered and supplied all requested information eloquently and some have turned around and use this against you. How can a common welder speak and write so eloquently. Don't be discouraged na Naija way. Superiority complex with some Nigerians na 5 and 6.

You post pictures, no you must post from cloud. You post concept designs, no you must post all doors from one location. It is never enough. Don't be discouraged. Life is a science. If you are out for honest enterprise, trust me, success will find you. And it will be like magic.

You have not done anything wrong in your response to queries concerning your work so I openly condem any unfounded labeling you as fraudulent. I stand by you and support you in finding honest enterprise.

I recognise you are a human being. I recognise you are trying to find honest enterprise. So be encouraged.

We all need a break or two and a kind (Chi) kindred spirit to make it in life. Say "yes" and your chi will say yes. Those whose palm karnel has been cracked by a benevolent spirit, should not forget to be humble (and kind).

Happy Birthday and many happy returns.
thanks for the kind words. It's really uplifting. I know that starting from the scratch is always difficult.

I'm a secondary school graduate and I didn't waste my days in school.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 3:39pm On Sep 13, 2020
Muyi002:


The information i have on 0.7mm is that it can only go on long span due to its thickness.

I can imagine that.

The only reason I’m using .7 long span is the roof design. I know it won’t be cheap angry
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Muyi002(m): 3:41pm On Sep 13, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I can imagine that.

The only reason I’m using .7 long span is the roof design. I know it won’t be cheap angry

Buying aluminiun 0.7mm thickness the same as buying a stone coated roof of N3200/sqm cheesy cheesy smiley wink

No wonder is mostly used by big factories.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 3:47pm On Sep 13, 2020
Muyi002:


Buying aluminiun 0.7mm thickness the same as buying a stone coated roof of N3200/sqm cheesy cheesy smiley wink

No wonder is mostly used by big factories.

Is this your primary residence and one in an area that you think you’ll be in for the long haul?

If yes and yes you should try as much as possible to get the roof that’ll please you. I think you really like stone coated.

The first thing I look in houses is the roof and I think most people do too.

I’ll encourage you to keep searching and looking, maybe, just maybe you might find a deal.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:50pm On Sep 13, 2020
EgunMogaji2:

I can imagine that.
The only reason I’m using .7 long span is the roof design. I know it won’t be cheap angry

I think you can only get 0.70 from Tower Aluminium.
I don't think there is any imported for those. I may be wrong though.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 3:54pm On Sep 13, 2020
n3xt:


Honestly, I’m not bothered or worried. That’s why I still send you a new job that can be done offsite.

I’ll definitely get back to you on that.

Regards
thanks man

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 3:58pm On Sep 13, 2020
mufutau55:


I think you can only get 0.70 from Tower Aluminium.
I don't think there is any imported for those. I may be wrong though.

Hajji M.

Solid Steel grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Person2person(m): 4:01pm On Sep 13, 2020
segzy14:
Do well to state the prices for the 3doors.

thanks bro... updated with prices
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:03pm On Sep 13, 2020
Person2person:


mahogany wooden door is stronger and more expensive than the hollow flush door.

we can give you quality door with your budget, talk to us call/wasap 08063073913

pic 1..... mahogany panel door @58k with frame, architraves, lock and installation

Pic 2.... HDF solid flush door@ 58k with frame,architraves lock and installation

pic 3...... hollow flush door @ 13k door ONLY


The hollow flush door is without frames right?

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