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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenpower: 8:47am On Sep 19, 2020
bebe2:
hello all
here is the plan for my proposed build at opic estate.
its a 4 nos of 2bedroom flats. is there any amendment that could be made?


This is still a developmental sketch with dimension wen u scale it properly on card works dat wen u can appreciate d drawing!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 8:49am On Sep 19, 2020
earthrealm:


so the 50 naira per block, is it a flat payment to the bricklayer, or to each...since its assumed that each bricklayer will have a helper, so you will end up paying 150k for a fence of 3000 blocks, if flat rate..than 300k if you count both bricklayer and helper....kinda outrageous if 300k, so i guess its a flat rate to the cwhole fence erecting crew.
thanks for chipping in, building ops in nigeria is like a battlefield, almost everyone is out to ''chop'' you!!! undecided. this thread is a lifesaver.

for casement windows, whats the going rate for a 1.2m x 1.1m and 0.9m x 1.1m window with inbuilt mosquito net, no burglary proof iron

Chief.

I don’t hire “Managers”, I hire actually masons that’ll be doing the work.

So how he does his work and hire crew and payments is his own palava. My own is to roam around with a level gauge and supply Chelsea and Chapman cheesy

My current crew consists of two masons, sometimes three and a dedicated helper. Though they are a finely honed operation and the masons jump in to do other helper tasks.

I use the opportunity of scale to my benefit. They are not their to do a small gutter, they are there to build 5 bungalows = 10 flats.

That price is the norm in my operating area.

PS: they also live onsite so saving on daily transportation cost.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:50am On Sep 19, 2020
bebe2:
hello all
here is the plan for my proposed build at opic estate.
its a 4 nos of 2bedroom flats. is there any amendment that could be made?

NO COMMENTS - grin grin grin
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:52am On Sep 19, 2020
saydfact:


I wont agree with you on all internal doors being iron doors because (like you say) they last for ever....... We both agree wooden doors can last forever too - it all comes down to the quality of doors and materials..... whether wood or iron, if the quality isnt OK, na same result. BTW: Nice door you did. keep it up.

shogbenga - CHINA doors dont last more than a year self, that yours lasted that long means the quality was really high. Whatever you choose, choose quality.... and YES, You can use iron doors for interior BUT the design shd be as simple as possible (if possible plain like flush / plywood doors)
flush doors like this abi? This is iron door too and there's a way I can eliminate the noise you're worried about

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:53am On Sep 19, 2020
diordaves:


Looking good and well made. God bless the Nairalander who paid for this. God bless Spyder880 for giving you the platform to showcase your work.

If this arrangement is further endorsed by Spyder, this may put to rest your business credentials and open up opportunities for more work home and abroad.

So going forward don't forget: Honesty, Transparency, Communication and fair pricing. These are your navigational tools to win diaspora trade including home base. Good luck.
thanks for the advice. I really appreciate it

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by joycluv: 8:54am On Sep 19, 2020
BrabusNG:


shocked

That’ll be against the ethics of this profession. grin

If I do that, how do I want other architects and building professionals who worked tirelessly to put this together to chop grin

The full design can be provided at a reasonable cost or I can send your architect the dwg file to work on at reasonable price.

I think that’ll be a fair thing to do.
OK. I understand. Thanks once again
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenpower: 8:55am On Sep 19, 2020
mssiah:
Good morning all

Please I need an estimate. How much will it cost to do decking for the attached plan.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:55am On Sep 19, 2020
michlins:
flush doors like this abi? This is iron door too and there's a way I can eliminate the noise you're worried about

GBAM - This can easily fly for all internal doors....... perfect, better if padded or filled.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 8:58am On Sep 19, 2020
kenpower:


A design brief is achieved base on client submission and expectation notting absolutely is wrong wit the design pls,,,,,If fact is a perfect tourch

there are NOT many design we can tag as PERFECT - I agree, that was a perfect design......

simple, functional and classy
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenpower: 8:58am On Sep 19, 2020
mssiah:
Good morning all

Please I need an estimate. How much will it cost to do decking for the attached plan.

U need to provide the dimension drawings besides the structural drawings too so dat u can hav an accurate estimate
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 8:59am On Sep 19, 2020
write2obi:

Neatly finished! Good work bro. but i'm still against using iron doors inside the house.
let's say you're building for commercial needs, iron doors are your best bet. Some tenants are careless and sometimes wicked. They will destroy whatever they come across and you will end up doing maintenance work pretty early. Before someone will spoil iron door, it will be obvious that he's deliberately made me destruction

When it comes to durability, nothing beats iron doors

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:01am On Sep 19, 2020
saydfact:


GBAM - This can easily fly for all internal doors....... perfect, better if padded or filled.
it's all about the choice of the customer. Some want something very fancy while some want something classy and will never fade in terms of design.

What if I tell you that the door in discussion is more expensive than the door I showed you earlier.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 9:03am On Sep 19, 2020
michlins:
it's all about the choice of the customer. Some want something very fancy while some want something classy and will never fade in terms of design.

What if I tell you that the door in discussion is more expensive than the door I showed you earlier.

offcourse I know that on cost..... soup wey sweet, na money ooh
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:03am On Sep 19, 2020
Its not only PVC is not sound proof, it can't resist heat, it will sag in short period of time.
gandkiss:
Please house am contemplating between using pop or pvc for my living area and dining, the thing is that I heard pvc is not sound proof when it rains.

Pros please advice.

Thank you.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kenpower: 9:04am On Sep 19, 2020
saydfact:


there are NOT many design we can tag as PERFECT - I agree, that was a perfect design......

simple, functional and classy

If a design is functional in terms of space arrangement,ventillation etc ,,,simple in shape or form,,classy in aesthetics and buildable wen set out den is perfect in submission

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by saydfact(m): 9:06am On Sep 19, 2020
gandkiss:
Please house am contemplating between using pop or pvc for my living area and dining, the thing is that I heard pvc is not sound proof when it rains.

Pros please advice.

Thank you.

pls forget pvc jare....

POP, wood or 600/600 ceiling boards biko
www.nairaland.com/attachments/4188805_fibre2_jpegba547d6713e8b2288fbd0b8faca6b386

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 9:08am On Sep 19, 2020
saydfact:


offcourse I know that on cost..... soup wey sweet, na money ooh
when compared to quality and classy finish, the later is better. Personally, I will use it

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:08am On Sep 19, 2020
Truely, pvc should be out of it but asbestos shouldn't be an option either(health wise).
EgunMogaji2:


Not a Pro but give good consideration to POP because of its purported anti burn properties. Good PVC has also been rumored to be not far off in price to well negotiated POP installation.

I will never use PVC. In fact I prefer to use "asbestos" instead of PVC where POP doesn't make sense.

Good luck on your project.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by spyder880(m): 9:13am On Sep 19, 2020
michlins:
this is why I usually tell people to use iron doors but they will tell you it's not good for internal doors. Eight years down the line, the only thing you will do on iron doors is to repaint it and you have yourself a brand new door.

Buildings are meant to last and not act as liability. Here's a sample of door that I delivered to oga Spyder yesterday. It was paid for by another Nairalander

diordaves:


Looking good and well made. God bless the Nairalander who paid for this. God bless Spyder880 for giving you the platform to showcase your work.

If this arrangement is further endorsed by Spyder, this may put to rest your business credentials and open up opportunities for more work home and abroad.

So going forward don't forget: Honesty, Transparency, Communication and fair pricing. These are your navigational tools to win diaspora trade including home base. Good luck.

Good morning my people, this is to confirm that my door man went to the workshop of Mr. Michlins yesterday and took the door in the picture for testing. The door is still with my man and I plan to come and see the door as soon as possible, I am away at Owerri this weekend. The door looks beautiful, and I will give my opinion about it when I see it. Thanks all.

Oga Diordaves, God bless you Sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:15am On Sep 19, 2020
If you are to put all standard setback in consideration, you can't have 4 bedroom Duples.
joycluv:
Please my people, can a 4 bedroom duplex be built on a land measuring 45ft x 50ft? Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:16am On Sep 19, 2020
Abolarin91:
Truely, pvc should be out of it but asbestos shouldn't be an option either(health wise).

Asbestos is the coloqiual name that stuck. Asbestos has been illegal in Nigeria for at least a decade.

Don't you live in Nigeria? I came back 18 months ago and I already knew this, what didn't you know this as a business owner?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ceelog(m): 9:21am On Sep 19, 2020
Olamomoiya:
Hello House,
First, I would like to say a big thank you to all those who contribute and share their project journey on this site. It has been very helpful to me since I began my project in August.

We are at the decking level and by my estimate, we will get to the roofing by end of October and I need help in deciding what type of roofing sheet to use.

Also a big shout out to those who were willing to communicate via email before phone exchange. Looking forward to working with you on my next project.

I used aluminium steptiles from Bozac.
I wanted it becos I needed to harvest the rain water for home use. Also first and tower aluminum sheets were rather too expensive for me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by shogbenga: 9:21am On Sep 19, 2020
Thanks to all for the advice on the choice of doors

However I observed that no one has recommended MDF/HDF floors. Is there any reason for that. Thanks
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coconutwater: 9:22am On Sep 19, 2020
EgunMogaji2:

Very nice presentation. Good job.
Wish you best of luck.

thanks for the complement!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:30am On Sep 19, 2020
For those looking for alternate ceiling materials to POP, Nigerite has various offerings and they advertise as "asbestos free". I would post a link but the SpamBot has gone rogue lately.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:34am On Sep 19, 2020
The open space where the 4 rooms and toilet windows are facing, how do you intend to ventilate this spaces? The rooms using that toilets will be smelly...
Moreover, this plan is not properly dimension, proper design will change everything.
bebe2:
hello all
here is the plan for my proposed build at opic estate.
its a 4 nos of 2bedroom flats. is there any amendment that could be made?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:35am On Sep 19, 2020
coconutwater:


thanks for the complement!

You're welcome. I support you guys trying to make it work at home.

I'll contact you once I get to finishing stages on my project and if I can't get satisfaction locally (first choice).
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:37am On Sep 19, 2020
kenpower:


This is still a developmental sketch with dimension wen u scale it properly on card works dat wen u can appreciate d drawing!

That this has to be explained to grown adults is troubling.

Anyways we move, no time.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by coconutwater: 9:39am On Sep 19, 2020
shogbenga:
Thanks to all for the advice on the choice of doors

However I observed that no one has recommended MDF/HDF floors. Is there any reason for that. Thanks

wooden doors generally comprises of:

flush doors : this can be hollow or solid flush door (MDF or hdf finish)

panel doors: these are the solid wooden doors made from hard wood like mahogany and the rest. it is usually finished with polished

Skin door: this door is same as MDF flush door, the only difference is that the surface has different patterned
designs.

All the wooden doors mentioned above are quality Doors that can last you for years if they are properly constructed.

meanwhile there prices differs! check samples here
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:42am On Sep 19, 2020
Pigment
Topmost11:
My 3-bedroom building is presently at dpc level(I am doing the filling). I am seriously considering using cement stabilised bricks(mortar or mortarless, I am undecided on that yet). And i don't want to plaster both in and out. From pictures i have seen and actual construction sites visited, i realise I need to incorporate columns. I am guessing the columns are for load bearing for the roof structure. But, i do not have columns on the present structure. Do i break the necessary places and introduce the columns or it is too late? Also funds are not readily available so I am building as the funds come from savings and other means. What I am looking at is if I finally decide to go for bricks, I will suspend building and produce total bricks I need, get other materials ready for roofing and get everything done at once(laying of bricks and roofing) during a dry season. I can use the period of wait to gather all necessary materials and generally get ready. Please kindly advise. Thank you.

PS: is it colour that is added to the mortar to change the colour to the reddish brown?. If I decide on mortar as binder, I will prefer the colour to be same as the bricks and not the ash/white of normal cement( dangote/elephant etc). I just love bricks for the aesthetics.
I have about 450 9" blocks and 600 6" blocks on ground. I don't see hem as waste as I will used them to do 3 courses of blocks before completing the rest with bricks. The 6" leftovers can still be used for fencing. Thanks.[b][/b]

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rotech77Ditto(m): 9:44am On Sep 19, 2020
JustCryptos:


Thanks chief. Any particular items?

Copper pipe for 9500 is much 6500 is a good deal for better product.

Then the 4” pipe of 2500 should be thick pipe of 3-4mm thickness

Also the 2” pipe thick one is 1400 against 1700

Others are very good price
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:46am On Sep 19, 2020
Get more roofers to give you quotation and compare, pls get a good quality materials. We have roofers here, cc: money121(imran roofing)

More greese
freezyprinzy:
Please I need help. This is the estimate my roofer gave for roofing a 4 bedroom duplex sqm of main building is 185sqm. This is minus wood just roofing sheet alone is this ok I feel it is too much.

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