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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Osemigho: 3:31am On Sep 20, 2020 |
fratermathy: As someone with experience in Canadian schools and have helped many to get admission with full scholarship, I 101% support this statement. It is a very very bad idea to do PhD without funding. Even schools that offer funding use that entice people to do it. Except you are going for research and academic position, PhD will likely give you a poor return on investment in Canada. Also note that research and academic positions are small and hard to get in Canada. A word is enough for the wise. I won’t talk about this topic again. 7 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 4:55am On Sep 20, 2020 |
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nobody: 4:56am On Sep 20, 2020 |
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Osemigho: 5:30am On Sep 20, 2020 |
vibrant99: Most schools for PhD is less than 8k? I beg to differ. Most Canadian school that charge 8k for yearly PhD tuition will likely charge same amount for a masters research in the same program or school. If I am wrong, please provide evidence. Lots and lots of advantage with PhD? What are the advantages for the student and not the school? How does these pros outweigh the opportunity cost? |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by skull4eva: 5:42am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Ayodeji786: Checked out dr thomas but he into ecosystems more of biology. The MITACS accelerated funding will help |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Lekiboboe: 6:02am On Sep 20, 2020 |
skull4eva:Hi, Google & Do a Research on the following Programs & their respective Schools - PhD in Agricultural, Food and Nutritional Science University of Alberta, Alberta - PhD in Food Science Dalhousie University, Nova Scotia - PhD Food Science University of Guelph, Ontario - PhD in food science University of Saskatchewan, Saskatchewan - PhD in food science Memorial University of Newfoundland, Newfoundland and Labrador - PhD in Food Science University of Manitoba, Manitoba - PhD Food, Agricultural and Resource Economics University of Guelph, Ontario - PhD in Food Science (Vancouver) University of British Columbia, British Columbia - Collaborative Specialization in Food Studies University of Toronto, Ontario - PhD in Food Science and Agricultural Chemistry McGill University, Quebec - PhD in Integrated Studies in Land and Food Systems (Vancouver) University of British Columbia, British Columbia Also, Visit the Link below for tips on - GETTING A SUPERVISOR AND POSSIBLE, FUNDING (Based on Experience of a Nairalander) - What To Include In Emails To Professors When Seeking Grad. School Admission, Funding in Canada & US - How to write a compelling SOP for Graduate school https://www.nairaland.com/5818588/canadian-student-visa-thread-part/111#90933556 Good luck!!! 2 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Trip2(m): 7:09am On Sep 20, 2020 |
PhD funding from the university alone can not get get you study permit. You must also show proof that you have your own personal funding or a reliable source of funding from your immediate family. The reason is this: perhaps you are not doing well with your research and your supervisor decides to kick you out, the question is how do you cope. The VO expect that you should be able to prove that you can cope financially pending when you are able to make a decision either leaving or getting another opportunity. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Trip2(m): 7:15am On Sep 20, 2020 |
[Mitacs funding requires that you must have an admission already and both you, your supervisor and an organisation where you will do your internship are in agreement and the organisation must have accepted that your research work suits their interest and also ready to provide their own part of the funding. quote author=skull4eva post=94107303] Checked out dr thomas but he into ecosystems more of biology. The MITACS accelerated funding will help[/quote] |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by fratermathy(m): 7:19am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Trip2: Some universities give what they call "guaranteed minimum funding". Not all funding comes from supervisors. In fact, in many schools the funding comes from the department or other internal sources rather than from the supervisor. Basically, the VO doesn't even need your personal SoA if you have a minimum "guaranteed" funding letter. Although it's always advised to add your personal SoA for all visa applications. Funding from supervisors cannot be rescinded once applied. It's an automated process. Once you get a signed letter with a specific duration of funding, it holds. The only issue is if the duration doesn't exceed one year. In that case, the student can have some issues in the following years should funding not be available. For PhD students, I'd advise that they always get minimum guaranteed funding for 4 years. Most of my friends at McGill, Concordia and Alberta have minimum guaranteed funding of at least C$20,000 per year for 4 years. This amount can be supplemented by TA/RAships, external scholarships or supervisor's grants. They are all in the Humanities/Social Sciences. It is only in the pure sciences that supervisors can fully fund their students and so I don't know how things operate with that system. 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Canhopeful: 7:37am On Sep 20, 2020 |
fratermathy: Thanks for your input. I will post my complete profile as you suggested. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by fratermathy(m): 7:45am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Osemigho: Your questions weren't directed to me but I want to comment on the last questions. Basically, no one should do a PhD if they are not interested in working as academics. It makes no sense to do a PhD simply because you want to do it or feel like doing it. It's only in Nigeria that egotistical persons do PhDs just for the title. In North America, a PhD doesn't make you special. It only means that you're a researcher/teacher. Like you said, PhD students increase the profile of the university generally. This is why they prefer hiring applicants with research and publication experience. The more you publish under the banner of the university, the more visible the university becomes. Ultimately, your dissertation will make an original contribution to knowledge and you'd be doing so with the university's name. Your presence in the university can also attract huge funding and endowments to the university. We can argue that the university benefits more from this arrangement and that is why a PhD student should NEVER pay for the program. A PhD program takes time, energy and drains you. Why should you pay for it? Job opportunities are limited to the academia or some specialist or research agencies. However, those who go for a PhD actually love academics so it works well for them. You shouldn't go for a PhD in Canada because you just want to migrate. It makes no sense to go through that stress just because you want to be in Canada when there are easier shortcuts that can be used. To answer Osemigho, the cons of doing a PhD outweigh the pros. However, the most important factor is fulfilment. You do a PhD because you are passionate about it and when you finish, regardless of all odds, you'll be happy you did it. In terms of jobs, get ready to look for jobs mostly in the USA as offers are limited and competitive in Canada. 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Informanta: 7:57am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Good day family, Am in a little fuse now, is there anyway I can recover password to my IRCC account I want to take full charge of it from my agent, but I just know only my UCI number, application number and email, I do not have the username or the GC key. Pls advice 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by papijulah: 8:23am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Please, is anyone else experiencing this payment error message since Friday? I tried making payment for my application to no avail 1 Like
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Olayinkaji(m): 8:31am On Sep 20, 2020 |
papijulah:Maximum transaction for master card in a month now is $100 now. Except you have a dollar card it will go through. But using mastercard, no no 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by DanielDriz(m): 9:01am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Please guys what good MSc program can i apply for. U studied business education graduated with a 2.1 i would have loved something business-IT related in my masters |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by papijulah: 9:08am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Olayinkaji: This is really insane... Just 100usd a month? |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by demiiii(f): 9:25am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Thank you for this Mothers are getting the needed support. Luckymama: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Trip2(m): 9:34am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Are you talking out of experience or mere assumptions?By guaranteed funding does not imply that the funding can not be rescinded. I am telling you without any fear of contradiction that funding for PhD students are rescinded once the student is not succeeding in his or her research work. Are u not also aware that students who apply with only showing funding from the school are Also refused study permit because they did not show funding on their part mostly especially students coming from developing countries.? I am talking from experience and not mere logic. quote author=fratermathy post=94108943] Some universities give what they call "guaranteed minimum funding". Not all funding comes from supervisors. In fact, in many schools the funding comes from the department or other internal sources rather than from the supervisor. Basically, the VO doesn't even need your personal SoA if you have a minimum "guaranteed" funding letter. Although it's always advised to add your personal SoA for all visa applications. Funding from supervisors cannot be rescinded once applied. It's an automated process. Once you get a signed letter with a specific duration of funding, it holds. The only issue is if the duration doesn't exceed one year. In that case, the student can have some issues in the following years should funding not be available. For PhD students, I'd advise that they always get minimum guaranteed funding for 4 years. Most of my friends at McGill, Concordia and Alberta have minimum guaranteed funding of at least C$20,000 per year for 4 years. This amount can be supplemented by TA/RAships, external scholarships or supervisor's grants. They are all in the Humanities/Social Sciences. It is only in the pure sciences that supervisors can fully fund their students and so I don't know how things operate with that system. [/quote] |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by skull4eva: 9:43am On Sep 20, 2020 |
fratermathy:Actually i finished msc 2015 and been working in a academic environment as more or less a contract staff thats why i cant access tetfund. We have done regularization waiting for the main employment letters now but if i get it i will have to wait 4 two years to access tetfund that ismy appointment must be confirmed. Haven said that phd is my career progression if i intend to come back and also beat the Vo purpose of visit wahala. My question is if i have the SOA of 8m after paying tuition will my study permit stand a chance of approval. Once my employment is confirmed i will surely get tetfund. My supervisor also will give funding after i have reached there. That is wat he is saying. As a plan B have already started mail new supervisors and will still mail more |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by skull4eva: 9:49am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Trip2:Thank you boss |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by fratermathy(m): 9:52am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Trip2: I am talking as a fully funded PhD student who is acquainted with the PhD funding dynamics of the Humanities and Social Sciences in North America. Guaranteed funding offers are binding till the end of the offer duration, hence the word "guaranteed". They will not be rescinded or reduced except the student loses studentship or some serious economic catastrophe happens. So what you're saying is that funding is rescinded on account of lack of progress with research and my counter argument is that funding is not actually rescinded for that but rather, studentship is lost and with it, the funding. Failure to thrive in graduate school doesn't implicate only funding but studentship and one cannot leave while the other remains. No one will take away guaranteed funding offered except the condition for that offer is no more and in almost all instances, the condition for that offer is to maintain active full-time student status. To maintain active student status means to work towards your degree. In essence, they won't rescind funding just because you have a little setback for a semester, for instance. However, if the setback progresses into stagnation and failure to meet the necessary degree milestones, the person loses studentship entirely and with it, the funding offer. On the issue of study permit refusal with funding, it is quite rare for that to happen but even when it does happens, the reason is not because of financial capacity but more like home ties, academic progression, and other allied reasons. When it is because of finance, then it may be tied to insufficient funds, especially if the tuition is so high that the balance drops to less than C$10,000 per year. I've seen people get visas with full funding and a personal account balance of just N100,000. No kidding. Since it appears we are both talking from experience, let's not argue over this. Experiences can indeed change the way we see things. All experiences are not the same and the essence of exchanges like this is for others to see the broader picture and adapt accordingly despite the diversity of experiences. 3 Likes |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by vibrant99(m): 10:03am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Basic schools, we will say Averagely ... PhD fees is 8k CAD, if i know anyone who didn’t get funding and got admitted I will press them on to go ahead with it. There are just too many opportunities waiting for you but because it is dressed in work clothes , we run away. People read too many internet blogs and write ups, and you just wonder, PhD can take you anywhere in this entire world and render you opportunities in the most unlike places ever imagined. A friend left for PhD in Canada in 2012, and when he got there , he was happy he has finally made the Canadian trip until he started seeing a different perspective to it , He applied for a Job in academia in a University in Qatar , and he was invited , he passed interview. He is currently the head of his department at 37yrs, earns in Pounds Sterling that someone in Canada only prays for, and he just uploaded a pics on on his I.G saying “Qatarian”.... You don’t know where you are heading but you some how have a picture of your destination, it may actually be a “Lay-By”.... the bigger picture can even be Singapore, Thailand ..... Australia , UK (funny enough, I have a friend who got a Job in UK and left Canada)... Just work hard at ur education first . Osemigho: 2 Likes
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by skull4eva: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2020 |
vibrant99:Thank you vibrant 99. Actually I Had already deferred to winter 2021 before the comments started coming in. My principle is while awaiting another opportunity dont throw away the one at hand. Mcgill is a good school and highly competitive. I have started mailing new supervisors but pending their responses i wish to know whether if i proceed to submit a new SOA of 8m after i have paid 10k cad tuition i will overcome the VO concerns on finance? Things would get better am certain. Just answer me in all honesty. If i wont stand a chance of approval with that let me know |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Engager69: 10:19am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Justiyke4u: You need a dom account, without that you can’t get a usd card.. |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by vibrant99(m): 10:40am On Sep 20, 2020 |
The radical truth is that you can even get an approval with this same exact application that was rejected without touching a thing , but now we seem to play safe . If you are applying soon, then .... don’t change a thing on the SOA, If you are applying later on , yes you can source for funds anywhere it will be accessible and ultimately make it known to the next person reading it that you had to go out of ur way to get money. I want to be in this ur success story , it is really worth it. skull4eva: |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by mii4all: 10:45am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Silent reader..but i thought to share this one. I think everyone should apply for their gcms notes so you can plan yourself accordingly. it will certainly give you an idea of VO's leanings on your matter especially if you haven't gotten an update and your application has been ongoing for at least 3 months +. It seems a lot of decisions have already been made. Profile: BSc Engineering, 30+, Married, Banker, going for MBA @ UoT 1st application; Applied 9th Feb No medicals Biometrics done 17th Feb BVL 5th Mar 1st Application Refused 6th Mar Reasons: Home ties, Purpose of visit, Employment prospects Applied for GCMS 10th Mar Received GCMS 8th April 2nd application 28th April Revised LOE specifically targeting visa refusal reasons and VO's concerns as seen in GCMS notes Upfront medicals Medicals passed 26th May BVL 26th May No update since, no AIP Started classes online without resigning 1st Sep Applied for GCMS 1st Sep Received GCMS 19th Sep I suppose 'info sharing' as seen in the notes implies that PPR will happen when travel restrictions ease and normal operations resume. It will end in praise. 22 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Admin9: 11:08am On Sep 20, 2020 |
mii4all: WOW!!!! I am even happier than you. Congratulations. Approval things!!! |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Admin9: 11:14am On Sep 20, 2020 |
good thing |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Mobi22: 11:32am On Sep 20, 2020 |
mii4all: Look at me smilling ooo |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Nyenyenwq(m): 12:04pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Yes, I have also seen people who got their study permit approved with no extra statement of account submitted asides the full funding letters. Someone even with less than 300k SOA got medical request and AIP. Everyone's case can't be the same. All you need to do is pray and do the best you can. fratermathy: 1 Like |
Re: Canadian Student Visa Thread Part 17 by Dameelee: 12:19pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Yaaaay I love to see it. Congratulations. Faithyyyyy: |
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