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Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by UgoFly: 9:48am On Sep 20, 2020 |
One thing that is certain is that Christianity is against accumulation of earthly wealth. Christ always talked about giving to the poor and needy. When you are blessed to earn plenty then you must also give plenty for whini 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 9:49am On Sep 20, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020: A million claps to this. 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by crackhouse(m): 9:51am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Yes someone did it in America recently |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Oyiboman69: 9:53am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Righteousnesss8:I thought you're a true Christian,don't tell me the devil is working on you on Sundays too
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Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Ayebagbalinyo365: 9:59am On Sep 20, 2020 |
They have started again.
una don enter pastors their money.
where were you when they have no money? |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 10:01am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Have you seen a Rich man serve God genuinely without pride? Nope! Jesus did not mince words when he said a Rich man will not enter into the Kingdom of God. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by ArcSEMPECJ(m): 10:04am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Codes151: For sure, God makes people rich to help others In giving, we have opportunities to give more as the blessings of God comes which is where I think you are referring to... But in this context....Christ Jesus understood the practical life of that rich man, as he must have thought his riches could earn him the kingdom of God. EVEN THOUGH HE GIVES TO THE POOR. But Christ telling him to forfeit all he has, humbles the rich man to know the extent he will go to be in his kingdom |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Angelfrost(m): 10:14am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Christianity is not as literal as many erroneously take it... There is a lot of subjectivity with regards to that event in scripture. That was not the first nor only wealthy person Christ encountered through out his earthly ministry. There were others: The Centurion, Zaccheus, even Jarius. He never asked them all to do exactly what he demanded of the person above... The question should be, Why??! The answer is quite simple... The rest were not deeply and overtly attached to their wealth. Christ could easily tell, can still easily tell till date. Asking the man to part with his wealth (Note: Not to Christ, like some so called men of God today, but to the needy) was intended specifically to test where his heart truly lay: In fully following Christ or whether Christ would come second to his wealth. God has to come first in a Christian's life... Professing to love Christ while serving him only when and where convenient is not an acceptable discipleship trait. To be truly connected to God, and be a disciple, while not discarding your God-given wealth, they must never take the place of God in our lives... The pursuit of earthly wealth should be secondary to Divine pursuits. 1 Like
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Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by udemzyudex(m): 10:15am On Sep 20, 2020 |
I don't think so, living a life without jesus is vanity, as long as you have jesus and live a good life, you don't have to give all you have just because you want to follow jesus. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by lastchild: 10:21am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Righteousnesss8:are you not the same person preaching gospel up and down here, now that you have the opportunity to use this question and win souls, you are calling it trash This nairaland sef, the moment you thought one person is making sense, he suddenly start misbehaving I can see that those preaching of yours is just eyes service, 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Codes151(m): 10:26am On Sep 20, 2020 |
ArcSEMPECJ:hmmm. I get your point But for now lemme wait for inspiration before I argue blindly |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by TheWalkingMind: 10:33am On Sep 20, 2020 |
onenaija001:That's not what Christ said. The context does not say that. I think we're deliberately misunderstanding the purpose of Christ teachings, consequentially that statement. That statement was circumstantial as most of Christ teachings and directed to correct the lifestyle of those who lived in his era. Those weren't as much of a philanthropist. Christ was only asking them to be. The purpose of tithe in the land of Israel was to ensure no one lacks anything. No man is given wealth to serve himself, it's always for the good of others. Christ is saying, there's no point hoarding it for yourself as such will not give you the kingdom of heaven. If you hoard it however it still doesn't diqualify from heaven. The chances are slim because hoarding wealth is greediness and selfishness, and no imperfect spirit is allowed into the temple of heaven. Our purpose here is to dematerialize ourselves, to evolve from a good spirit to perfect spirit and then onto a pure spirit. Only a pure spirit can enter the kingdom of heaven. So, that's the point of the whole statement of Christ. Dematerialize yourself. Giving, a nature of perfect spirit, is an essential way of doing that. The fact that such statement is even a spine of controversy is a testament to how misplaced the priority of the church and humanity as a whole is. All these are unnecessary to say the truth. The only thing that matters is to love one another. Everyone will make heaven. Some in a lifetime, some in many lifetimes. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Reference(m): 10:42am On Sep 20, 2020 |
This Scripture and others is just the New Testament version of the famoius Old Testament sayings of God: 'DONOT WORSHIP OTHER GODS OR BOW DOWN TO OTHER GODS' simply because men have become slaves to the works of their hands. It is Jesus demanding for authority over your life by tugging at your prized possessions. For where a man's treasure is there his heart will also be. Men do it to their wives a lot, women demand it of men all the time JUST TO PROVE LOYALTY, FIDELTY AND LOVE. God asking us to do same should not be a problem. He is simply saying that I have a system of doing stuff called MY KINGDOM and it has its own rules, conduct and its own ways of making wealth and if you want to immigrate there you sell your stuff and come in, simple. In all my years knowing God, one thing I have come to understand (because I did struggle with this for years) is: God wants to be in control of EVERYTHING. Especially if that thing is important to you. The Bible says He is a jealous God and CANNOT accept you (WATCH THIS VERY CAREFULLY) having, keeping or engineering wealth He is NOT DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR. Only matured Christians will understand this, but when you begin to get seriously serious with God, the first thing He does is to pull your LIFE SUPPORT. He wants you to TOTALLY depend on Him. He wants to MAKE YOU....DEPEND ON HIM ONLY all your life. The fact that any man cannot accept this truth says that much about his ability to yield to God. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by fotadmowmend(m): 10:56am On Sep 20, 2020 |
Yes...... After giving your life to church what else do u have? |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by tinsen: 11:07am On Sep 20, 2020 |
[color=#006600] lastchild:[/color] He’s not the one. This is an imposter that is known for violence. The other person’s handle is Righteousness89. Thanks 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by harmony75: 11:10am On Sep 20, 2020 |
In few instances God will say give all because that person's life, joy all depend on his wealth.when you're not touching lives with the blessings He has given you, God will text you to give all He knows everything don't forget that, you're only helping the ministry of God so bless people with what God has given you by his grace, everything ends here so why are you withholding!!! |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Emmypure: 11:38am On Sep 20, 2020 |
wealth gotten from legit means =NO
,," ". ". ". "". illegal means =YES |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Ramos16(m): 12:03pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
jesusjnr2020:. 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 12:04pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Ezekiel36vs28:Can you please explain to me why non-belivers are rich? You need not examples. 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Ramos16(m): 12:07pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Ezekiel36vs28: You all must be mad, go and tell your private , mansion owning pastors to give up all their wealth 2 Likes |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by femi4: 12:31pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
onenaija001:No, it was an illustration that you must submit all to follow Christ. Jesus teaches in parables most time 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Kyra1(f): 12:39pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
No, I don't think so.
If I have strength I will come and attach my reasons later. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by futurerex: 12:49pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
lastchild:Righteousness8 is an imposter. The real preacher is Righteousness89 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by futurerex: 12:53pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Oyiboman69:Righteousness8 is an imposter. The real dude is Righteousness89. 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by KLand(m): 12:57pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
It is not so much about giving your physical goods to God. It is about giving your heart to God. God should be your top priority, not wealth and not any other thing in life. But you can be a Christian and still be rich. Both do go together. What can't go together is loving your wealth and God at the same level. If you are in doubt, I will mention that Jesus became poor to make us rich. "For ye know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that, though He was rich, yet for your sakes He became poor, that ye through His poverty might be rich." 2Corr. 8:9 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Righteousness89(m): 1:00pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Owning Wealth, Riches etc is not a Sin. Wealth and Riches owning you is where the Problem lies. That's where it becomes sin and a Liability.. The Gold and Sliver Belongs to God.. We don't let them in anyway Control us.. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by emmyN(m): 1:09pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
onenaija001: Jesus spoke in parables. When he made that statement, he was pointing to salvation. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Yes! go tell crooked adeboye to give up all his wealth he acquired through thithes and donations away. Adeboye obviously doesn't believe heaven exist, unless he is planning to take all his wealth and private jets to heaven. |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by lastchild: 1:30pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
futurerex:oh, I never knew, so sorry for that 1 Like |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by lastchild: 1:31pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
tinsen:oh, I never knew, I was wrong in that case |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Oyiboman69: 1:34pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
futurerex:OK, no wonder |
Re: Must A Rich Man Give All He Has If He Wants To Follow Christ? by Nobody: 1:36pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Follow which Christ? the long bearded, long dark haired arab who we were told was crucified 1000s of years ago? how can the living follow a dead a man? isn't that madness? |
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