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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by kapelvej: 7:17pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Peacefullove:E pain am. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 9:14pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
johnw47: lol for someone that is used to defending his belief with abuses, you don't take me by surprise. There's no logic in slander, in the long run, you're defeating yourself *hypocritical you mean? ...accuse me intelligently nahh 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 9:15pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
johnw47: lol For someone that is used to defending his belief with abuses, you don't take me by surprise. There's no logic in slander, in the long run, you're defeating yourself. *hypocritical you mean? ...accuse me intelligently nahh 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:44pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Zzor: oh most duh lie lie rozz i posted and showed where haddey is hypercritical and i sure have shown you many times where you are a liar. there again in strike trough, fool you know from God's word that God hates lies and that is why you keep saying and repeating them over and over again oh evil one: Joh 8:44 You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies. Isa 3:24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:54pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
haddeylium: haddeylium: you posted to me with slander, but you r typical false jw liar and now when i say the truth concerning you in return, you add crying to your being upset, laugh spell hypercritical however you want oh fool with nothing intelligent to say and double posting doesn't make you right, just a dum false jw |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:04pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
here is another scenario why mad max and girlie tatime deleted their accounts: it's because they couldn't reply to most of what christians put to them and another scenario: maximus69 and tatime deleted their accounts because christians here finally convinced them that jw org is phony 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 10:12pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
lie lie rozz u say your most duh lies and then run away again ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:16pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Zzor: lie lie rozz, u as unintelligent as haddeylium take a look at your posts: https://www.nairaland.com/zzor/posts you are fighting with many, just a couple from first page: Zzor: Zzor: dum dum rozz, u should join false jw's, u just like them and going to the same place as they: Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 11:33pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
I find it strange with the JW's they refuse to believe in the trinity theory-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One- And yet they believe the Archangel Michael was Jesus on earth working side by side with God the Father.. If this was the case-Michael became Jesus on earth-two persons-that became One person-doing everything God told them to do, three persons working together in One accord-we now have a trinity! In this case-a Mocking against the Holy Spirit had be used against the Father and His Son Jesus Christ-then Michael the acting Spirit is used as a force-according to the Watchtower... rabzy: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 3:02am On Sep 21, 2020 |
brocab: John 4:24 , John 20:17. John 17:3, Jesus Christ says that your theory no know the only true God of Jesus Christ Pls see wetin you post that only day when you think straight ![]()
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by AkinwaleJJ(f): 3:05am On Sep 21, 2020 |
brocab: I don't think you're getting what jws meant. God is a spirit, Jesus is a spirit, Micheal is a spirit but from all indications Jesus and Michael had so much in common, while God stand out as one that's unequalled. God declared Jesus greater than everything else in heaven (save himself) immediately after completing his earthly course, so if Michael is a spirit in heaven just like Jesus then what proof do you have that the same Michael in heaven is not the life that was transformed into a fetus in Mary's womb? JWs speaks based on what is presented in the Bible, though trinity has been a teaching in the churches but then one doesn't need to take side without diligence. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 2:10pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
brocab: You don't get it...do you? Verses in the Bible does not fit in into that pagan doctrine Take this as an example: 1 cor 8:5-6 For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; [b]and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, [/b]through whom all things are and we through him. With that scriptures in mind and Bolden: Does the Bible deny that there might be anyone called god in heaven or earth?...NO! (psalm 82:1, ps 82:6) But how many god does Christ followers and true Christains have ?....“there is actually to us one God'...ONE GOD!(1 Tim 2:5) Does the Bible mentioned the name of that ‘one God'?...YES! “The father"-(matt-23:9)- he has a name?...YES!(Deut 6:4: ps 83:18)-oh, Jehovah, you are our Father- Isa 64:8 Moses served as God and mediator between the Israelites and Jehovah God(Num 18: ![]() ![]() Did Jesus' serve as Lord and mediator too between Man and God ?...YES! (1Tim 2:5)...he serve as his word? ...YES! SHALOM! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 2:23pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
kapelvej: It pains you that Bible said humans are GODS ? 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by kapelvej: 3:04pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 3:08pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
kapelvej : Are Psalm 82:6 & John 10:34-35 in your Bible or do you just want to constitute a nuisance? 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by kapelvej: 3:18pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
DappaD:e pain am |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 5:35pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
kapelvej:No enlightenment for you 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by kapelvej: 7:44pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
Peacefullove:E pain am |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 8:11pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
kapelvej: Robot named kapelvej , the only thing it types is " E pain am" ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 8:47pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
johnw47:Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:20pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: yeah who else would, not me for sure ![]() 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by brocab: 3:21am On Sep 22, 2020 |
The Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel prior to his coming to earth. They assert: “Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return” (Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971, 1152) They arrive at this erroneous belief primarily through a misinterpretation of (1) {Daniel 10:13, 21} where reference is made to a “great prince,” Michael; and (2) {First Thessalonians 4:16} where the Lord Jesus is described as descending from heaven at the sound of the archangel’s voice. The JWs’ own New World Translation of the Bible reads, ” . . . the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.” According to the JWs, Michael is the only angel other than Gabriel mentioned in the Bible, and Michael is the only one who is called an archangel. (The angel Raphael is mentioned in the book of Tobit, but since the Jehovah’s Witnesses sprang from Protestantism, they use the Protestant canon of Scripture, which is missing this Old Testament book plus six others.) It seems you aren't the one understanding your own teachings, "the JW's are taught-Michael became Jesus on Earth-and after Jesus finished His time on Earth He returned back into Michael-Michael now sits righteous with God-this belief of course-pushes Hebrews out of the way- so how can you believe such trinity theory-when in fact you don't believe two persons can become One. AkinwaleJJ: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 10:53am On Sep 22, 2020 |
brocab: Michael the archangel is Jesus heavenly role in his prehuman existence. After his resurrection, he returned to heaven to resume his role. A man can be called CEO at work and father at home. we can not have two father at home ...can we? Jacob is called israel too, doesn't makes him two? Go through (Heb 1:1-9), it will worth your while. Jws provides you with 1001 verses that disproves that pagan doctrine and teaches Unitarianism. but you couldn't provide a single verse with trinity...shame? Jesus even said all these are even stories Matt 11:19 -“Wisdom is justified by her works Jehovah's witnesses have been using the knowledge they have about Jesus' role to unite more than 8.7m people of different races having the same line of thought. we follow Jesus command by having love among ourselves (John 13:35). Doesn't matter whether we are rich or poor, this love unite us we do not go to war and kill people ![]() As Jesus commanded in (matt 24;14): we engage in this extensive preaching work in more than 230 lands proclaiming God's kingdom as mankind's only hope under Christ rulership in lewl of that, we don't engage in politics (John 18:36), cos' we're only loyal to God's heavenly Kingdom. ![]() With the knowledge/wisdom you have about Jesus, what have you religious group accomplished ? or you can explain? ![]() 3 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by AkinwaleJJ(f): 12:01pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
brocab: It's all about beliefs and what each person concluded after reading the Bible, so no one can say authentically what is right or wrong in this case. The jws conclusion shouldn't be a problem for now, i believe everyone should continue running the race. The topic of the thread is about trinity and if you are an advocate of trinity, you're not in any position to say they're right or wrong because trinity itself is not found in the Bible! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 1:12pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
brocab:*1) Bros, you love lies so much. Daniel 10:13,21 and 1Thess4:16, is very straight forward. There is NOTHING erroneous about JWs stating the very facts revealed in both scriptures. *2) Bros, is Tobit among the 66 books of your holy Bible? WAYO man , you have Zero connection to Catholicism, you fault their doctrines and now you make FALSE claims as if you love Catholic Bible. Hypocrisy tie wrapper on your head. ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 9:11pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Janosky: loll ![]() You're minding that protestant churchgoer He doesn't even know that the establishment of protestenism is to protest against the pope supremacy and Catholic pagan's doctrine Clearly, theyre still in the bondage of false teaching with their retainment of Catholic dogmas of Trinity, hellfire and soul immortality that contradict the bible. shame ![]() One thing I shall be eternally grateful for is being a Jehovah's witness... Cos' mehnnnnn which other organization use the Bible as their only source ![]() Practice what they teach?.....jezzz ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Acehart: 4:49am On Sep 24, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: True. I guess it is his confession of being a rapist that got his profile down. Well, there will be no one to fan the ego of the seductress for a while until further notice. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 6:32pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
Acehart:Please can you share the link for your claim? Thanks. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:44pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
Janosky:Of course i did, back then in the world! ![]() But they were all my girlfriends i never has sex forcefully with a total stranger, most of them even come back begging for more and a certain girl hate me till today because i stopped trying to force her when i noticed she was crying. Ever since then she tried to come back but i said "if you cry with tears because i wanted to mount you then it simply means you don't love me" She later gave different excuses but i stood my ground that she never loved me. But all that was back then when we were playing the boyfriend girlfriend things not now that i've learnt that even premarital sex is the same as murder before God! 1John 3:4 ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MaxInDHouse(m): 7:50pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
MuttleyLaff: Hmmmmmmmmmm, i never knew so many people are envious of the way and manner i give her words of comfort! 1Thessalonians 5:14 ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:09pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
MaxInDHouse:You stand out in midst of so many,no one like maximus,you didn't join them to throw stones at me,only if they know I'm very shy and an extreme introvert in reality,i just want to be a different person here that's all |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:10pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
Acehart:come out and stop being sneaky and cunning,quote me directly if you have dust to spew |
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