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Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by truthmans2012: 6:20pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Surah 3:55: “Behold! Allah said: ‘O Jesus! I will take thee and raise thee to Myself and clear thee of the falsehood of those who blaspheme; I will make those who follow thee superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.”(Yusuf Ali) Who are those who follow Jesus? It is the Christians. So, it means it is better to be a Christian than being a Muslim. Who doesn't want to be superior? 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by AkinwaleJJ(f): 7:00pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
truthmans2012: Na wa o! 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by jesmond3945: 7:42pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
Lol |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by Auki: 9:50pm On Sep 20, 2020 |
truthmans2012: Did you really follow Jesus? 1.Jesus worship Allah alone, and never call himself son of God or even God to start with. 2. He command what is good and discourage all that is bad. 3. He give alms(Charity) . All Muslims love and respect Jesus but we don't worship him, we call only God. The Roman Jesus is a packaged paganism. 5 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by AkinwaleJJ(f): 2:22am On Sep 21, 2020 |
Auki: If i'm a Muslim where can i get the complete story of Jesus, life, biography and teachings? The three points you mentioned aren't anything special or extraordinary because everyone does it, if that's just what Jesus did then i wonder why Allah wants to bless those following Jesus. Qur'an 3:55 My own father worshiped God alone, he never claimed to be God or son of God. He taught me what is good and warned me against badness. He also give alms (Charity). So will you to follow my dad? 6 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by true2god: 8:59am On Sep 21, 2020 |
truthmans2012:Longer time bro. Thank you for all your exposee on allah and his messenger. Muslims, who are the followers of Jesus who islamic allah wanted to make superior to those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection (quran 3:55)? What did the quran, the hadith and seerah say about the followers of Jesus? Are Jesus' disciples muslims, Jews or Christians? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by CodeTemplar: 9:33am On Sep 21, 2020 |
truthmans2012:The more reason why they left the book in a strange language that can not be easily perused. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by chidifrank(m): 6:18pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
Nice write up 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by Lifepodcastng: 10:34pm On Sep 21, 2020 |
Auki: |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by truthmans2012: 7:05am On Sep 22, 2020 |
true2god: Long time my brother. Good to hear from you. We thank God for our lives. 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by truthmans2012: 7:07am On Sep 22, 2020 |
CodeTemplar: True bro. If not for internet, Allah would have kept deceiving mankind. |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by truthmans2012: 7:11am On Sep 22, 2020 |
Auki: Lies. How do muslims follow Jesus? You cannot follow Jesus and Muhammad at the same time as their ways are totally different: Jesus is a man of peace and Muhammad was a man of ..... Jesus didn't worship Allah, he worshipped Yahweh. Jesus called Yahweh Father, is Allah a father as he doesn't beget neither is he begotten.? The fact that Allah does not father any children and Yahweh does, is a clear proof that Yahweh and Allah are not the same. Quran itself confirms that Muhammad and muslims are not worshipping Yahweh, the God of the Jews and Christians. Quran 109:1-6 Say: O disbelievers! (i. e the Jews and Christians, as in Quran 9:29) I worship not that which ye worship; Nor worship ye that which I worship. And I shall not worship that which ye worship. ] Nor will ye worship that which I worship. Unto you your religion, and unto me my religion The question therefore is: Who is the god of Islam who disowned the Jews and Christians? It is the God of the Jews and Christians that is known since the creation of the world. Where comes Allah? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by Auki: 9:59pm On Sep 22, 2020 |
AkinwaleJJ: Quran contains an excellent information about Jesus right before his birth. Same goes for Mary with details prayer of her mom and Allah's acceptance of her invocation. It includes Miracle and Signs given to Jesus by Allah and unbelievers response to his message. Surrendering to Allah's will alone and avoiding false worship, doing and encouraging what is good is central tenet from Adam, Abraham, Mosses, Jesus to Muhammad (Peace be on them). The Lord of the Throne has no son or any partner and all worship should be directed to Him alone. If you are interested , I will inshAllahu email you some good link on Jesus. 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by haekymbahd(m): 11:34pm On Sep 22, 2020 |
truthmans2012:Allah didn't disown christians and Jews but the disobedient ones among them. Allah SWT said: "And if only they upheld [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have consumed [provision] from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a moderate community, but many of them - evil is that which they do." (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 66) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com I am sure the Jews don't believe Yahweh is the God of Jesus so if you don't believe Allah is the God of Jesus na your palava be that you are not the first to do such a thing. So as Muslims we are not bothered. Jesus nor the previous prophets taught trinity (3 in 1) God but one God so how are the disobedient Christians following Jesus.. Jesus himself self wasn't a Christian but a submitter to the will of God just as every other prophet (Muslim) And there is no where in the Bible where God said Christianity is the religion Jesus accepts. Who is God Yahweh or Jesus? You said Jesus worshipped Yahweh do you mean Jesus is not God. Because I wonder how God worshipped God. Was Jesus/Yahwe peaceful in the old testament if your God can move from violent to peaceful then he can also move vice versa. You didn't challenge your God when he changed from violent to peaceceful but you can question vice versa that is sign of an hypocrite. 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by josh123(m): 7:09am On Sep 23, 2020 |
Islam is a religion of war, piss and shit. it is a thorn. it gave birth to terrorism |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by truthmans2012: 5:34pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
josh123: Yes ooo !!! The truth is: as long as a copy of the Quran is available in the world, it (world) will not know peace. The same Quran contains peaceful and violent verses. While some choose the peaceful verses, some choose the violent ones. The Quran is double-faced. Quran says "fighting is prescribed for muslims" (Quran 2:216) Jesus came with messages of peace, why would God introduce violence after Jesus had left? Muslims' Allah can never be the God Jesus represented. Never. |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by GeneralDae: 5:46pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
Auki:What was jesus purpose on earth? what was his message? |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by truthmans2012: 5:54pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
[ b]haekymbahd[/b] I don't believe Yahweh is Allah and you too have no reason to believe that they are one Spirit. Allah said in Quran 9:29 that the Jews and Christians (described as people who received the earlier Scriptures) didn't believe in him (Allah). If Allah is Yahweh, the true God, and who the Jews and Christians worship, the Quran would not say the Jews and Christians didn't believe in him. That means the Jews and Christians at that time and now, know Allah is not their God and that is why they didn't believe in him. So clear. Allah himself told Muhammad to tell the people that what muslims worship is not the God of the Christians, the true God known from the beginning of the world. (Quran 109:2): I worship not that which ye worship. Who is the god Muhammad and muslims worship that is different from the God of the Jews and Christians? 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by haekymbahd(m): 8:54pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
truthmans2012:So to you the Jews and Christians are worshipping the same God that is false... The Jews are worshipping one God with no son similar to muslims.. While the trinitarian Christians are worshipping a God with a son(Jesus) who is also God. And they claim they worship one God. Allah SWT said: "And if only they upheld [the law of] the Torah, the Gospel, and what has been revealed to them from their Lord, they would have consumed [provision] from above them and from beneath their feet. Among them are a moderate community, but many of them - evil is that which they do." (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 66) I believe Allah is the same God of Jews and Christians it was their disobedience that let to different God. By making Jesus Co equal with God (Allah). Allah SWT said: "They have certainly disbelieved who say that Allah is Christ, the son of Mary. Say, Then who could prevent Allah at all if He had intended to destroy Christ, the son of Mary, or his mother or everyone on the earth? And to Allah belongs the dominion of the heavens and the earth and whatever is between them. He creates what He wills, and Allah is over all things competent." (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 17) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com Allah SWT said: "And from those who say, We are Christians We took their covenant; but they forgot a portion of that of which they were reminded. So We caused among them animosity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection. And Allah is going to inform them about what they used to do." (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 14) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:12pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
haekymbahd: Remember Jews NEVER throw Sheytan stones in Mecca, Jews Never Worship, Bow, Kiss and cycling the Shrine of kaaba.. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by haekymbahd(m): 9:49pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM:Allah SWT said: "And We have revealed to you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming that which preceded it of the Scripture and as a criterion over it. So judge between them by what Allah has revealed and do not follow their inclinations away from what has come to you of the truth. To each of you We prescribed a law and a method. Had Allah willed, He would have made you one nation [united in religion], but [He intended] to test you in what He has given you; so race to [all that is] good. To Allah is your return all together, and He will [then] inform you concerning that over which you used to differ." (QS. Al-Maaida 5: Verse 48) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by ANTIlSLAM(m): 9:57pm On Sep 23, 2020 |
haekymbahd: What they are telling you is that your god allah is not the same Yahweh Jewish worshipped 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by motayoayinde: 7:23am On Sep 24, 2020 |
GeneralDae: HE WAS A PROPHET JUST LIKE MANY OTHERS BEFORE HIM, SENT TO THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL, TO CHANGE THEIR WAYS AND UPHOLD THE BELIEF IN ONE GOD. HE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ANY MORE THAN A HUMAN PROPHET. THIS IS WHAT MAKES HIS MESSAGE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE OF OTHER PROPHETS. THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY WAS FORMULATED LONG AFTER HIM. THE DOCTRINE IS INCONSISTENT WITH THE REST OF THE BIBLICAL BOOKS. JESUS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by motayoayinde: 7:46am On Sep 24, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY THE CHRISTIAN "TRINITY"THAT IS STRANGE AND INCONSISTENT WITH ANYTHING IN THE ABRAHAMIC RELIGIONS AND TRADITIONS. EVEN IN THE BIBLE, TRINITY SEEMS OUT OF PLACE AND INEXPLICABLE. THE JEWS WHOSE "YAHWEH" YOU'RE TRYING TO TAUNT MUSLIMS WITH, HAVE LONG DECLARED NOT HAVING ANYTHING TO DO WITH TRINITY AS IT'S A STRANGE IDEA OF THE PERSONALITY OF GOD. RATHER, THE PERSONALITY OF ALLAH IS ABSOLUTELY SAME WITH THAT OF "YAHWEH" YOU SHOULD ALSO KNOW THAT APART FROM "YAHWEH", JEWS ALSO CALL GOD BY OTHER NAMES WHICH ARE: "ELAH" AND "ELI", BEARING CLEAR SIMILARITIES WITH "ALLAH" IN PRONUNCIATION AND DESCRIPTION. NO SURPRISE, ARABIC, HEBREW AND ARAMAIC (the language of Jesus), ARE FROM SAME ROOT. |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by ANTIlSLAM(m): 8:46am On Sep 24, 2020 |
motayoayinde: They have come again oo, Show us where ELAH is refer to as name of God in Bible? Brainwashed slave. You want to attached allah with Elah again?, continue wallowing in your ignoramus. Abraham never prayed to allah, Abraham never called the name of allah, Abraham never Worshipped, Bow, Cycling the shrine Muhammad established for you slaves. Ur god allah is an idol you must have this inside your skull |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by ANTIlSLAM(m): 8:57am On Sep 24, 2020 |
motayoayinde: Are you expecting to see the word TRINITY in the Bible before you can understand what TRINITY means? Is your five times daily Asolat in Quran? WHO INSTRUCTED YOU TO PRAY FIVE TIMES IN A DAY?? I hope you've read this Chapter and verse from the Bible Matthew 28:19 “Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father , and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.” 2 Likes |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by motayoayinde: 9:28am On Sep 24, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: WHILE SOLAAT IS MENTIONED IN SEVERAL VERSES OF THE QUR'AN BY NAME (Quran 2: 42 for example),TRINITY WHICH IS THE MOST FUNDAMENTAL DOCTRINE OF CHRISTIANDOM AND WITHOUT WHICH MODERN CHRISTIANITY (except a few brands), WILL HAVE NO BASIS, ENJOYS NOT A SINGLE MENTION IN THE ENTIRE VOLUME OF THE BIBLE. ALLAH/YAHWEH IS THE REASON FOR THE REVELATION OF THE QUR'AN AND THE TORAH. THE NAMES ARE MENTIONED THOUSANDS OF TIMES IN THE TWO BOOKS. BUT I'M AMAZED BY THE EFFORT SOME OF YOU PUT INTO FORCING TRINITY DOWN THE THROAT OF THE BIBLE WHEN WE ALL KNOW WHEN, WHERE AND WHY THE DOCTRINE OF TRINITY EMANATED. IT WAS RATIFED BY THE COUNCIL OF NICEA, MODERN DAY TURKEY, IN THE YEAR 325 AD, AFTER A LONG AND TUMULTUOUS BATTLE BETWEEN UNITARIAN CHRISTIANS (who maintained that Jesus was a man and God is One) AND THE TRINITARIAN CHRISTIANS. THIS IS WHAT YOU SHOULD WORRY ABOUT NOT CHASING MUSLIMS FROM THREAD TO THREAD, WITH INSULTS AND NOTHING MORE. 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by motayoayinde: 10:05am On Sep 24, 2020 |
ANTIlSLAM: YOUR KNOWLEDGE OF THE TOPIC YOU'VE DELVED INTO IS SHALLOW. BUT I'LL EDUCATE YOU FOR AS LONG AS YOU'RE WILLING TO LEARN AND NOT THROW CHILDISH INSULTS. MUHAMMAD( saw) SPOKE ARABIC, JESUS (as) SPOKE ARAMAIC, BOTH BEING DESCENDANTS OF PROPHET IBRAHIM/ABRAHAM, THEIR LANGUAGES ARE ALIKE. THE DIFFERENCES ARE JUST DIALECTAL. WITH THE ABOVE, SHOULD IT SURPRISE ANYONE THAT THEIR NAMES FOR GOD: ALLAH/ELAH ARE ALSO SIMILAR. FROM YOUR POST, YOU SEEM TO AGREE ONLY WITH "ELI". ELI IS ANOTHER NAME FOR GOD IN HEBREW WHILE ELAH IS ARAMAIC. AT THE TIME JESUS LIVED, OTHER DIALECTS OF HEBREW WERE SPOKEN, ONE OF THEM WAS ARAMAIC, WHICH WAS JESUS' LANGUAGE. BACK TO THE NAME "ALLAH", AS I EXPLAINED IN ONE THREAD, IT WAS USED TO REFER TO GOD BY ARAB JEWS, CHRISTIANS AND PAGANS LONG BEFORE THE PROPHET (saw) WAS BORN. A FEW CLICKS ON YOUR PHONE AND YOU'LL GET MORE ABOUT THIS ON WIKI. AS WE SPEAK, MILLIONS OF ARAB CHRISTIANS REFER TO GOD AS ALLAH EVERYDAY. THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WHILE MUSLIMS AND JEWS BELIEVE ALLAH TO BE ONLY ONE INDIVISIBLE ENTITY, CHRISTIANS INSIST THAT THERE ARE THREE GODS (Allah, Jesus and holy ghost) RESIDING IN ONE GODHEAD. 1 Like |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by GeneralDae: 11:52am On Sep 24, 2020 |
motayoayinde:My question wasn't about jesus being a prophet or not, I said what message did he preach? and your answer seemed to be that all he did was to preach about one God. Well, the preaching of one God was nothing new in Israel and at the time of jesus, this wasn't a major problem compared to previous times, so why would the main message of jesus be just about belief in one God? In the bible, the main message of jesus was the message of the kingdom of God( Mark 1v15). Does islam explain this or do you have any idea what that is? |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by Auki: 12:20pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
GeneralDae:. Quran addressed Jesus message on Earth: and all prophets from Noah, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad is: To worship Allah, offering Him sincere devotion, being true (in faith); to establish regular prayer; and to practise regular charity; and that is the Religion Right and Straight. Jesus said: He said: "I am indeed a servant of Allah: He hath given me revelation and made me a prophet; And He hath made me blessed wheresoever I be, and hath enjoined on me Prayer and Charity as long as I live; He) hath made me kind to my mother, and not overbearing or miserable "So peace is on me the day I was born, the day that I die, and the day that I shall be raised up to life (again)"! Such (was) Jesus the son of Mary: (it is) a statement of truth, about which they (vainly) dispute. Quran Chapter 19 verse 30:34 Allah knows best |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by GeneralDae: 12:26pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
Auki:But the bible says jesus main message was: The kingdom of God. Jesus always talked about the kingdom of God and he being the son of man. That was the emphasis of jesus in the new testament. As you said, prophets in time past already taught us to worship God, pray, and give charity but jesus came to teach the world about the kingdom of God specifically, if you read the bible where you can learn about jesus teachings in detail. The kingdom of God simply means God himself ruling us, and administering true justice. |
Re: Why Would Allah Prefer Christians To Muslims by ANTIlSLAM(m): 12:45pm On Sep 24, 2020 |
motayoayinde: I said you should make reference from the Bible where Elah is refer to as God.. That's question before you Slave of allah. Since you want to associate allah to the same God of Abraham, Issac, Jacob, etc you must finish what you started |
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