Peacefullove:
and humans are GODS too . Says the bible

If u can't learn to draw the line... That's your problem .

E pain am. .

johnw47:


like I said haddey, you are a hypercritical, unintelligent and upset pharisee false jw

lol
for someone that is used to defending his belief with abuses, you don't take me by surprise.
There's no logic in slander, in the long run, you're defeating yourself

*hypocritical you mean? ...accuse me intelligently nahh

johnw47:


like I said haddey, you are a hypercritical, unintelligent and upset pharisee false jw

lol
For someone that is used to defending his belief with abuses, you don't take me by surprise.
There's no logic in slander, in the long run, you're defeating yourself.

*hypocritical you mean? ...accuse me intelligently nahh

Zzor:
why are you always fighting people everywhere,you this fake pastor johnw47,repent from your evil ways Mr fake wealthy pastor

oh most duh lie lie rozz
i posted and showed where haddey is hypercritical
and i sure have shown you many times where you are a liar.
there again in strike trough, fool

you know from God's word that God hates lies
and that is why you keep saying and repeating them over and over again oh evil one:

Joh 8:44  You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies.

Isa 3:24 And it shall come to pass, that instead of sweet smell there shall be stink; and instead of a girdle a rent; and instead of well set hair baldness; and instead of a stomacher a girding of sackcloth; and burning instead of beauty.

haddeylium:


lol
For someone that is used to defending his belief with abuses, you don't take me by surprise.
There's no logic in slander, in the long run, you're defeating yourself.

*hypocritical you mean? ...accuse me intelligently nahh

haddeylium:


lol
for someone that is used to defending his belief with abuses, you don't take me by surprise.
There's no logic in slander, in the long run, you're defeating yourself

*hypocritical you mean? ...accuse me intelligently nahh

you posted to me with slander, but you r typical false jw liar
and now when i say the truth concerning you in return, you add crying to your being upset, laugh

spell hypercritical however you want oh fool with nothing intelligent to say

and double posting doesn't make you right, just a dum false jw

here is another scenario why mad max and girlie tatime deleted their accounts:
it's because they couldn't reply to most of what christians put to them

and another scenario:
maximus69 and tatime deleted their accounts because christians here
finally convinced them that jw org is phony

lie lie rozz
u say your most duh lies and then run away again

Zzor:
why are you always fighting people everywhere,you this fake pastor johnw47,repent from your evil ways Mr fake wealthy pastor

lie lie rozz, u as unintelligent as haddeylium
take a look at your posts: https://www.nairaland.com/zzor/posts
you are fighting with many, just a couple from first page:

Zzor:
rubbish

Zzor:
Leech

dum dum rozz, u should join false jw's, u just like them
and going to the same place as they:

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

I find it strange with the JW's they refuse to believe in the trinity theory-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One-
And yet they believe the Archangel Michael was Jesus on earth working side by side with God the Father..
If this was the case-Michael became Jesus on earth-two persons-that became One person-doing everything God told them to do, three persons working together in One accord-we now have a trinity! In this case-a Mocking against the Holy Spirit had be used against the Father and His Son Jesus Christ-then Michael the acting Spirit is used as a force-according to the Watchtower...

rabzy:


We can talk about the doctrine and argue or discuss it, but he has not answered my question.
He made two statements, 1 on KJV, the 2nd on JW saying Jesus is not the way to God. Those are clear statements and he has refused to defend either.

First there is no mystery, Jesus a mighty God and surbordinate to Almighty Jehovah is no mystery at all. Jesus is the firstborn of all creation, the beginning of the creation of God, then people want to equate him to Jehovah MBA MBA.

It is when you want to make them equal that you become mystified, because there are thousands of verses that will come at you and you won't be able to explain and you become mystified.

My question to you is can you show me in the Bible maybe like 5 places where Jehovah is said to depend on Jesus, or took instructions from him, or needed Jesus before he could do something.
You can check from Jesus prehuman existence, to when he was on earth and then to after his exaltation and power in heaven. Just a hint of that relationship like we have for Jesus where he cries to Jehovah, kneel before him, collects power from him, sits at Jehovah's right hand as otunba. You want to equate Otunba to Oba. Lai lai.

Then if Jesus has always been equal to God, when he became exalted and raised up by GOD, how come he never became higher than God. Remember Jesus has always been higher than all angels and humans before the exaltation. So why did he need to be raised up from his previous level, this new level should then be higher than Jehovah if they have been at par previously. It shows there are multiple levels of difference between Jesus and Jehovah from creation, Jesus was taken to a higher level and he is still lower than Jehovah.
Every knee has been bowing before Jehovah from time immemorial, but now Jesus has been added to that level. Every knee must bow before Jesus, he didn't have that privilege before, and Jesus knees still bows to Jehovah. Jehovah bows before no one.

brocab:

I find it strange with the JW's they refuse to believe in the trinity theory-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One-
And yet they believe the Archangel Michael was Jesus on earth working side by side with God the Father..
If this was the case-Michael became Jesus on earth-two persons-that became One person-doing everything God told them to do, three persons working together in One accord-we now have a trinity! In this case-a Mocking against the Holy Spirit had be used against the Father and His Son Jesus Christ-then Michael the acting Spirit is used as a force-according to the Watchtower...

John 4:24 , John 20:17. John 17:3, Jesus Christ says that your theory no know the only true God of Jesus Christ
Pls see wetin you post that only day when you think straight

brocab:
I find it strange with the JW's they refuse to believe in the trinity theory-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One-
And yet they believe the Archangel Michael was Jesus on earth working side by side with God the Father..
If this was the case-Michael became Jesus on earth-two persons-that became One person-doing everything God told them to do, three persons working together in One accord-we now have a trinity! In this case-a Mocking against the Holy Spirit had be used against the Father and His Son Jesus Christ-then Michael the acting Spirit is used as a force-according to the Watchtower...

I don't think you're getting what jws meant.
God is a spirit, Jesus is a spirit, Micheal is a spirit but from all indications Jesus and Michael had so much in common, while God stand out as one that's unequalled.
God declared Jesus greater than everything else in heaven (save himself) immediately after completing his earthly course, so if Michael is a spirit in heaven just like Jesus then what proof do you have that the same Michael in heaven is not the life that was transformed into a fetus in Mary's womb?
JWs speaks based on what is presented in the Bible, though trinity has been a teaching in the churches but then one doesn't need to take side without diligence.

brocab:
I find it strange with the JW's they refuse to believe in the trinity theory-the Father the Son and the Holy Spirit are One-
And yet they believe the Archangel Michael was Jesus on earth working side by side with God the Father..
If this was the case-Michael became Jesus on earth-two persons-that became One person-doing everything God told them to do, three persons working together in One accord-we now have a trinity! In this case-a Mocking against the Holy Spirit had be used against the Father and His Son Jesus Christ-then Michael the acting Spirit is used as a force-according to the Watchtower...

You don't get it...do you?
Verses in the Bible does not fit in into that pagan doctrine
Take this as an example:

1 cor 8:5-6
For even though there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth, just as there are many “gods” and many “lords,” 6 there is actually to us one God, the Father, from whom all things are and we for him; [b]and there is one Lord, Jesus Christ, [/b]through whom all things are and we through him.

With that scriptures in mind and Bolden:

Does the Bible deny that there might be anyone called god in heaven or earth?...NO! (psalm 82:1, ps 82:6)

But how many god does Christ followers and true Christains have ?....“there is actually to us one God'...ONE GOD!(1 Tim 2:5)

Does the Bible mentioned the name of that ‘one God'?...YES!
“The father"-(matt-23:9)- he has a name?...YES!(Deut 6:4: ps 83:18)-oh, Jehovah, you are our Father- Isa 64:8

Moses served as God and mediator between the Israelites and Jehovah God(Num 18:. He was an intermediary spokesman for Jehovah to israel, serving as God's word in a sense(Ex 24-9:

Did Jesus' serve as Lord and mediator too between Man and God ?...YES! (1Tim 2:5)...he serve as his word? ...YES!

SHALOM!

kapelvej:
E pain am. .

It pains you that Bible said humans are GODS ?

Peacefullove:


It pains you that Bible said humans are GODS ?

;DE pain am

kapelvej : ;DE pain am

Are Psalm 82:6 & John 10:34-35 in your Bible or do you just want to constitute a nuisance?

DappaD:



Are Psalm 82:6 & John 10:34-35 in your Bible or do you just want to constitute a nuisance?

e pain am

kapelvej:
E pain am

No enlightenment for you

Peacefullove:

No enlightenment for you

E pain am

kapelvej:
E pain am

Robot named kapelvej , the only thing it types is " E pain am" , that's how it was programmed, just watch it will quote this post and say the same. What a robot

johnw47:
lie lie rozz, u as unintelligent as haddeylium
take a look at your posts: https://www.nairaland.com/zzo.r/posts
you are fighting with many, just a couple from first page:

dum dum rozz, u should join false jw's, u just like them seduce
and going to the same place as they:

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again.

MuttleyLaff:
Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again.

yeah who else would, not me for sure

The Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel prior to his coming to earth. They assert: “Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return” (Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971, 1152)
They arrive at this erroneous belief primarily through a misinterpretation of (1) {Daniel 10:13, 21} where reference is made to a “great prince,” Michael; and (2) {First Thessalonians 4:16} where the Lord Jesus is described as descending from heaven at the sound of the archangel’s voice.
The JWs’ own New World Translation of the Bible reads, ” . . . the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.”
According to the JWs, Michael is the only angel other than Gabriel mentioned in the Bible, and Michael is the only one who is called an archangel. (The angel Raphael is mentioned in the book of Tobit, but since the Jehovah’s Witnesses sprang from Protestantism, they use the Protestant canon of Scripture, which is missing this Old Testament book plus six others.)
It seems you aren't the one understanding your own teachings, "the JW's are taught-Michael became Jesus on Earth-and after Jesus finished His time on Earth He returned back into Michael-Michael now sits righteous with God-this belief of course-pushes Hebrews out of the way- so how can you believe such trinity theory-when in fact you don't believe two persons can become One.

AkinwaleJJ:


I don't think you're getting what jws meant.
God is a spirit, Jesus is a spirit, Micheal is a spirit but from all indications Jesus and Michael had so much in common, while God stand out as one that's unequalled.
God declared Jesus greater than everything else in heaven (save himself) immediately after completing his earthly course, so if Michael is a spirit in heaven just like Jesus then what proof do you have that the same Michael in heaven is not the life that was transformed into a fetus in Mary's womb?
JWs speaks based on what is presented in the Bible, though trinity has been a teaching in the churches but then one doesn't need to take side without diligence.

brocab:
The Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel prior to his coming to earth. They assert: “Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return” (Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971, 1152)
They arrive at this erroneous belief primarily through a misinterpretation of (1) {Daniel 10:13, 21} where reference is made to a “great prince,” Michael; and (2) {First Thessalonians 4:16} where the Lord Jesus is described as descending from heaven at the sound of the archangel’s voice.
The JWs’ own New World Translation of the Bible reads, ” . . . the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.”
According to the JWs, Michael is the only angel other than Gabriel mentioned in the Bible, and Michael is the only one who is called an archangel. (The angel Raphael is mentioned in the book of Tobit, but since the Jehovah’s Witnesses sprang from Protestantism, they use the Protestant canon of Scripture, which is missing this Old Testament book plus six others.)
It seems you aren't the one understanding your own teachings, "the JW's are taught-Michael became Jesus on Earth-and after Jesus finished His time on Earth He returned back into Michael-Michael now sits righteous with God-this belief of course-pushes Hebrews out of the way- so how can you believe such trinity theory-when in fact you don't believe two persons can become One.

Michael the archangel is Jesus heavenly role in his prehuman existence. After his resurrection, he returned to heaven to resume his role.
A man can be called CEO at work and father at home. we can not have two father at home ...can we?
Jacob is called israel too, doesn't makes him two?
Go through (Heb 1:1-9), it will worth your while.

Jws provides you with 1001 verses that disproves that pagan doctrine and teaches Unitarianism.
but you couldn't provide a single verse with trinity...shame?


Jesus even said all these are even stories
Matt 11:19 -“Wisdom is justified by her works

Jehovah's witnesses have been using the knowledge they have about Jesus' role to unite more than 8.7m people of different races having the same line of thought.

we follow Jesus command by having love among ourselves (John 13:35). Doesn't matter whether we are rich or poor, this love unite us

we do not go to war and kill people .. Isn't that love wonderful.

As Jesus commanded in (matt 24;14): we engage in this extensive preaching work in more than 230 lands proclaiming God's kingdom as mankind's only hope under Christ rulership

in lewl of that, we don't engage in politics (John 18:36), cos' we're only loyal to God's heavenly Kingdom.


With the knowledge/wisdom you have about Jesus, what have you religious group accomplished ?
or you can explain?

brocab:
The Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel prior to his coming to earth. They assert: “Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return” (Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971, 1152)
They arrive at this erroneous belief primarily through a misinterpretation of (1) {Daniel 10:13, 21} where reference is made to a “great prince,” Michael; and (2) {First Thessalonians 4:16} where the Lord Jesus is described as descending from heaven at the sound of the archangel’s voice.
The JWs’ own New World Translation of the Bible reads, ” . . . the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.”
According to the JWs, Michael is the only angel other than Gabriel mentioned in the Bible, and Michael is the only one who is called an archangel. (The angel Raphael is mentioned in the book of Tobit, but since the Jehovah’s Witnesses sprang from Protestantism, they use the Protestant canon of Scripture, which is missing this Old Testament book plus six others.)
It seems you aren't the one understanding your own teachings, "the JW's are taught-Michael became Jesus on Earth-and after Jesus finished His time on Earth He returned back into Michael-Michael now sits righteous with God-this belief of course-pushes Hebrews out of the way- so how can you believe such trinity theory-when in fact you don't believe two persons can become One.

It's all about beliefs and what each person concluded after reading the Bible, so no one can say authentically what is right or wrong in this case. The jws conclusion shouldn't be a problem for now, i believe everyone should continue running the race. The topic of the thread is about trinity and if you are an advocate of trinity, you're not in any position to say they're right or wrong because trinity itself is not found in the Bible!

brocab:
The Jehovah’s Witnesses maintain that Jesus was Michael the archangel prior to his coming to earth. They assert: “Scriptural evidence indicates that the name Michael applied to God’s Son before he left heaven to become Jesus Christ and also after his return” (Aid to Bible Understanding, Watchtower Bible & Tract Society, 1971, 1152)
*1) They arrive at this erroneous belief primarily through a misinterpretation of (1) {Daniel 10:13, 21} where reference is made to a “great prince,” Michael; and (2) {First Thessalonians 4:16} where the Lord Jesus is described as descending from heaven at the sound of the archangel’s voice.
The JWs’ own New World Translation of the Bible reads, ” . . . the Lord himself will descend from heaven with a commanding call, with an archangel’s voice.”
According to the JWs, Michael is the only angel other than Gabriel mentioned in the Bible, and Michael is the only one who is called an archangel. (*2 The angel Raphael is mentioned in the book of Tobit, but since the Jehovah’s Witnesses sprang from Protestantism, they use the Protestant canon of Scripture, which is missing this Old Testament book plus six others.)
It seems you aren't the one understanding your own teachings, "the JW's are taught-Michael became Jesus on Earth-and after Jesus finished His time on Earth He returned back into Michael-Michael now sits righteous with God-this belief of course-pushes Hebrews out of the way- so how can you believe such trinity theory-when in fact you don't believe two persons can become One.

*1) Bros, you love lies so much.
Daniel 10:13,21 and 1Thess4:16, is very straight forward. There is NOTHING erroneous about JWs stating the very facts revealed in both scriptures.


*2) Bros, is Tobit among the 66 books of your holy Bible?
WAYO man , you have Zero connection to Catholicism, you fault their doctrines and now you make FALSE claims as if you love Catholic Bible.
Hypocrisy tie wrapper on your head.

Janosky:

*1) Bros, you love lies so much.
Daniel 10:13,21 and 1Thess4:16, is very straight forward. There is NOTHING erroneous about JWs stating the very facts revealed in both scriptures.


*2) Bros, is Tobit among the 66 books of your holy Bible?
WAYO man , you have Zero connection to Catholicism, you fault their doctrines and now you make FALSE claims as if you love Catholic Bible.
Hypocrisy tie wrapper on your head.

loll
You're minding that protestant churchgoer
He doesn't even know that the establishment of protestenism is to protest against the pope supremacy and Catholic pagan's doctrine
Clearly, theyre still in the bondage of false teaching with their retainment of Catholic dogmas of Trinity, hellfire and soul immortality that contradict the bible. shame


One thing I shall be eternally grateful for is being a Jehovah's witness... Cos' mehnnnnn
which other organization use the Bible as their only source ?
Practice what they teach?.....jezzz

MuttleyLaff:
Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again.

True. I guess it is his confession of being a rapist that got his profile down. Well, there will be no one to fan the ego of the seductress for a while until further notice.

Acehart:


True. I guess it is his confession of being a rapist that got his profile down. Well, there will be no one to fan the ego of the seductress for a while until further notice.

Please can you share the link for your claim?
Thanks.

Janosky:

Please can you share the link for your claim?
Thanks.

Of course i did, back then in the world!
But they were all my girlfriends i never has sex forcefully with a total stranger, most of them even come back begging for more and a certain girl hate me till today because i stopped trying to force her when i noticed she was crying. Ever since then she tried to come back but i said "if you cry with tears because i wanted to mount you then it simply means you don't love me"
She later gave different excuses but i stood my ground that she never loved me.
But all that was back then when we were playing the boyfriend girlfriend things not now that i've learnt that even premarital sex is the same as murder before God! 1John 3:4

MuttleyLaff:
Notice that since that ex-intelligence officer man's unceremoniously and cowardly escape, no one, for days on end, liked the wanton seductress femme fatale's vamped game of seduction uploaded last profile pic, so she's now put up a new pic, which I bet too, wouldnt have some much as any "lust for" like, carried out on it by anyone, again.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, i never knew so many people are envious of the way and manner i give her words of comfort! 1Thessalonians 5:14

MaxInDHouse:


Hmmmmmmmmmm, i never knew so many people are envious of the way and manner i give her words of comfort! 1Thessalonians 5:14

You stand out in midst of so many,no one like maximus,you didn't join them to throw stones at me,only if they know I'm very shy and an extreme introvert in reality,i just want to be a different person here that's all

Acehart:


True. I guess it is his confession of being a rapist that got his profile down. Well, there will be no one to fan the ego of the seductress for a while until further notice.

come out and stop being sneaky and cunning,quote me directly if you have dust to spew