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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 8:58am On Sep 29, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Na so.

The man has been exposed look it up and believe what you want. cheesy
stop mixing up things and shifting goalposts. I am not referring to the whistleblower Omar jamal, I am talking of the Liman Mohammed the well known ilhan Omar acolyte that was caught on camera paying money for votes. You can't defend what ilhan Omar's minion was caught doing on camera so you decide to start attacking the whistleblower. Whether the whistleblower is a shady person or not doesn't change the fact of what we all saw on video and that's Ilhan Omar minions paying people for their vote.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:00am On Sep 29, 2020
salford1:

I am very happy at the turn out so far. Shocked at the over 1million votes already. Compared to 10,000 from previous election. That is bigly. grin
It's also a spear to the heart of Don the Con.
My dear Wisconsin mailed out ballots a week ago the return rate is at 25% in just one week.

Trump talk of undermining the elections has motivated as many as possible to vote early and return ASAP.No waste of time and early voting advantage will help many to vote early and work as poll workers campaign and tell others to vote.

Why do you think the GOP is scared and filing law suits like dummies they have been losing them.
Now they have filed in PA to the SCOTUS and Texas is pending too maybe judgments will be given this week they will still lose them all.

In Ohio the secetary of state has not added more ballot drop boxes union workers told the sec of state in Ohio that they will build more drop boxes for free to ensure many Ohioans vote by mail when it begins October 6.There is a lawsuit pending in Ohio too

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 9:01am On Sep 29, 2020
Nuff said. grin

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 9:01am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

When he didn't pay his business lost money and losing money in your business is not a crime. Every successful business man loses a lot of money they just need to have the brains to turn it around like Trump does all the time.

So for 10-15yrs his business was in loss and accumulating debt, do you know of any CEO who would be kept on with such a record?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:02am On Sep 29, 2020
ObaIgwe1:


Losing money in your business is not a crime. But losing money continuously for more than a decade with big debts shows high level incompetence.

I wouldn't hire such a loser to manage my funds, reason why many Americans think he is not fit to manage their economy.

It is either Trump is a con man or highly incompetent. For me I think he is both.
Lol, but you would hire the one who son has been taking money from corrupt russians and who can't explain the source of his own wealth either. Trump took advantage of Obama's law to minimize his tax burden so you guys should vent your anger on Obama for being so dumb to give smart business men like Trump that loophole to exploit.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by salford1: 9:02am On Sep 29, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

My dear Wisconsin mailed out ballots a week ago the return rate is at 25% in just one week.

Trump talk of undermining the elections has motivated as many as possible to vote early and return ASAP.No waste of time and early voting advantage will help many to vote early and work as poll workers campaign and tell others to vote.

Why do you think the GOP is scared and filing law suits like dummies they have been losing them.
Now they have filed in PA to the SCOTUS and Texas is pending too maybe judgments will be given this week they will still lose them all.

In Ohio the secetary of state has not added more ballot drop boxes union workers told the sec of state in Ohio that they will build more drop boxes for free to ensure many Ohioans vote by mail when it begins October 6.There is a lawsuit pending in Ohio too
Interestingly, if his administration had managed the pandemic well, there would not be a need for all these. But he is just a failure in most of his endeavours.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:05am On Sep 29, 2020
LordReed:


So for 10-15yrs his business was in loss and accumulating debt, do you know of any CEO who would be kept on with such a record?
Trump owns his own business. He is the boss, he does the hiring and firing. And one more time, losing money in your business is not a crime.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:06am On Sep 29, 2020
kophschmerzenii:


Veritas liars have been caught in numerous lies, a federal judge charge them $$$$ for spreading falsehood. If that's your holy grail then i question your common sense.
If CNN is your holy grail then I question if you have any sense at all.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:07am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

stop mixing up things and shifting goalposts. I am not referring to the whistleblower Omar jamal, I am talking of the Liman Mohammed the well known ilhan Omar acolyte that was caught on camera paying money for votes. You can't defend what ilhan Omar's minion was caught doing on camera so you decide to start attacking the whistleblower. Whether the whistleblower is a shady person or not doesn't change the fact of what we all saw on video and that's Ilhan Omar minions paying people for their vote.
Omar Jammal the impersonator.

I read it is being investigated by the police department so allow them do their job also ballot harvesting in Minnesota was recently restricted so read up Minnesotan law to know the legality mr sharebaing.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:10am On Sep 29, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Omar Jammal the impersonator.

I read it is being investigated by the police department so allow them do their job also ballot harvesting in Minnesota was recently restricted so read up Minnesotan law to know the legality mr sharebaing.
Omar Jamal wasn't the one caught on Camera paying money for votes, that was Liman Mohammed. Omar Jamal blew the whistle on them. Since you guys can't defend the fraud been committed by ilhan Omar's minions, you decided to go after the whistleblower. Stop the your sharebas and face the truth.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:11am On Sep 29, 2020
Also bluebyrd ballot harvesting is legal in Minnesota and 26 states and recently restricted.

You are busy getting misled by veritas and you have no idea pn Minnesotan law.Like I said go and read up before claiming Ilhan did this and that we know she is hated by far right dummies because of their islamphobia wink

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:13am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Omar Jamal wasn't the one caught on Camera paying money for votes, that was Liman Mohammed. Omar Jamal blew the whistle on them. Since you guys can't defend the fraud been committed by ilhan Omar's minions, you decided to go after the whistleblower. Stop the your sharebas and face the truth.
There is no truth there because right now the police or law courts have said nothing about that yet.
Let them do their job and stop whinning like a baby at the end of the day nothing is coming out of it cheesy.

Who takes project veritas serious?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:15am On Sep 29, 2020
AmazonTopaz:
Also bluebyrd ballot harvesting is legal in Minnesota and 26 states and recently restricted.

You are busy getting misled by veritas and you have no idea pn Minnesotan law.Like I said go and read up before claiming Ilhan did this and that we know she is hated by far right dummies because of their islamphobia wink
Vote buying is illegal everywhere in the US and it's every true lover of America that hates people like Omar. The dummies, anti semites and communists are all on her side.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:15am On Sep 29, 2020
Where is itchie ooo he is yet to update us on the PA ballots investigation by DoJ or so

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by AmazonTopaz(f): 9:18am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Vote buying is illegal everywhere in the US and it's every true lover of America that hates people like Omar. The dummies, anti semites and communists are all on her side.
Leave the police to do their job and stop peddling unsubstantiated conspiracies like I said nothing will happen so keep whinning.You don't peddle falsehoods and expect sane people to believe you
Bye bye.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 9:22am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Lol, but you would hire the one who son has been taking money from corrupt russians and who can't explain the source of his own wealth either. Trump took advantage of Obama's law to minimize his tax burden so you guys should vent your anger on Obama for being so dumb to give smart business men like Trump that loophole to exploit.

Lol I am more scared of a con man who paid his daughter that is already in his business payroll consultancy fees just to beat paying tax.

There is nothing wrong with the law. But a lot is wrong with a con man who takes advantage of loopholes in a law to defraud the system. It only means he is corrupt as fukc.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ObaIgwe1: 9:30am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Trump owns his own business. He is the boss, he does the hiring and firing. And one more time, losing money in your business is not a crime.

I agree. But let him keep his loss and bankruptcy to himself/his businesses and not run a great nation like US down like he did his businesses. Already millions are out of jobs and more than 200k lives are lost due to his incompetence. He deserves to be fired by American people especially now that we all know he has been a serial loser for more than a decade.. Thanks to NYT expose.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 9:36am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Trump owns his own business. He is the boss, he does the hiring and firing. And one more time, losing money in your business is not a crime.

I asked you a question which you didn't answer. Can you answer the question?

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:45am On Sep 29, 2020
Kamala Harris Harris was out to virtue signal about Ruth Bader Ginsburg but she couldn't even get her nickname right. She called her the Notorious BIG instead of the Notorious RBG
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by Bluebyrd: 9:49am On Sep 29, 2020
AmazonTopaz:

Leave the police to do their job and stop peddling unsubstantiated conspiracies like I said nothing will happen so keep whinning.You don't peddle falsehoods and expect sane people to believe you
Bye bye.
I am not interfering with the police doing their jobs, I am just reporting what we all saw on video, only insane people will still call it a falsehood after seeing it on video with their own eyes.
Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by wirinet(m): 10:19am On Sep 29, 2020
DissTroy:
You Nairaland-infamous thieving fraudster!
Everyone knows Sanders has a gazillion times more presence of mind that Joe Biden has and that's why even the most fanatic of Trump's supporters in 2016 and 2020 admitted and keep admitting Sanders knows his game. Local-search "Disstroy Sanders" and you'd see where I've stated over time that Sanders is a better match.

The same Joe Hiden who can barely make two articulate sentences at a time? The same Biden whose armour is so porous that even as restrained as Kamala Harris was on him, she still tore him to shreds during the Primary Run?
Same Biden who keeps jumbling words and identities together?
Biden stands no chance in a debate which makes me even piqued about what tomfoolery he'd come up with. The mockery would be far-reaching.

Not too long from now, slimy, pilfering featherbrained primate!

Sanders has a gazillion times more presence of mind that Joe Biden, but Biden beat him in the Democratic Primary debates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyM6ytS8u34

Biden that had been involved with tens of debates - vice presidential debates and presidential primary debates, suddenly don't have presence of mind to debate Trump? That strategy will fail your guys tonight, as Biden will floor Trump in any debate.
What you guys dubiously characterise as presence of mind is his known speech impediment, which he was born with. He is a stammerer. I know some people make fun and bully stammerers.

Which karmala Harris shed him to pieces during the primaries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUutymbDLI0

Maybe you only watched the primaries through Fox news.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by sanpipita(m): 10:49am On Sep 29, 2020
wirinet:


Sanders has a gazillion times more presence of mind that Joe Biden, but Biden beat him in the Democratic Primary debates.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyM6ytS8u34

Biden that had been involved with tens of debates - vice presidential debates and presidential primary debates, suddenly don't have presence of mind to debate Trump? That strategy will fail your guys tonight, as Biden will floor Trump in any debate.
What you guys dubiously characterise as presence of mind is his known speech impediment, which he was born with. He is a stammerer. I know some people make fun and bully stammerers.

Which karmala Harris shed him to pieces during the primaries.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUutymbDLI0

Maybe you only watched the primaries through Fox news.



People who are stupid, I won't be surprised if the orange man doesn't show up tonight, his last propaganda hold is about going up in flames.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ZooOga: 10:59am On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Liberals and communists are cut from the same cloth. Not surprised you are here carrying communist propaganda.

I like history and results. Today China has a unique mixed socialist/communist/capitalist political and economic model that is outperforming western colonial nations. Now u see why some ppl in this thread call posters like yourself coons and a** lickers?

http://origins.osu.edu/article/new-world-order-africa-and-china
China declared its intent to help liberation fighters throughout the world, and this became the hallmark of China’s Africa policy from the 1950s to the end of the Cold War in 1990.

During this period, China offered military intelligence, weapons, and training to freedom fighters in Algeria, Angola, Zimbabwe, Mozambique, Guinea Bissau, and Namibia. Even the African National Congress and the Pan African Congress of South Africa received some support in their struggles against apartheid South Africa. This policy appealed to many young African nationalists, including Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana, Jamal Abdul Nasser of Egypt, Julius Nyerere of Tanzania, and King Hasan of Morocco.

Africa became a Cold War zone where China, the Soviet Union and the United States collided. The Congo Crises of 1961-1965 set the stage for Cold War politics in Africa and provide some clue to China’s interest in Africa during the first decade of independence.

Seeking for ways to compete with the superpowers for control over Congo’s copper resources crucial for military and civilian hardware, Mao Tse Tung remarked in 1964, “If we obtain Congo, we have obtained Africa. Congo is our passageway into Africa.”

China’s intention to help free Africa from the claws of colonialism was indisputable. For example, Kwame Nkrumah of Ghana, often considered the father of African liberation, invited Chinese military advisors to train freedom fighters from all corners of the continent between 1957 and his overthrow in 1966. Beijing also helped Ghana to secretly establish the Ghana Atomic Energy Commission, which was dismantled in 1966.

https://www.goodreads.com/author/quotes/4797485.Mao_Zedong

“...the evil system of colonialism and imperialism arose and throve with the enslavement of Negroes and the trade in Negroes, and it will surely come to its end with the complete emancipation of the Black people.”
― Mao Zedong

“The struggle of the Black people in the United States for emancipation is a component part of the general struggle of al the people of the world against U.S. imperialism, a component part of the contemporary world revolution. I call on the workers, peasants, and revolutionary intellectuals of all countries and all who are willing to fight against U.S. imperialism to take action and extend strong support to the struggle of the Black people in the United States! People of the whole world, unite still more closely and launch a sustained and vigorous offensive against our common enemy, U.S. imperialism, and its accomplices! It can be said with certainty that the complete collapse of colonialism, imperialism, and all systems of exploitation, and the complete emancipation of all the oppressed peoples and nations of the world are not far off.”
― Mao Zedong

https://www.marxists.org/reference/archive/mao/works/red-book/ch06.htm

Imperialism will not last long because it always does evil things. It persists in grooming and supporting reactionaries in all countries who are against the people, it has forcibly seized many colonies and semi-colonies and many military bases, and it threatens the peace with atomic war. Thus, forced by imperialism to do so, more than 90 per cent of the people of the world are rising or will rise in struggle against it. Yet, imperialism is still alive, still running amuck in Asia, Africa and Latin America. In the West imperialism is still oppressing the people at home. This situation must change. It is the task of the people of the whole world to put an end to the aggression and oppression perpetrated by imperialism, and chiefly by U.S. imperialism.

https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Mao_Zedong#1960s

Racial discrimination in the United States is a product of the colonialist and imperialist system. The contradiction between the Black masses in the United States and the U.S. ruling circles is a class contradiction. Only by overthrowing the reactionary rule of the U.S. monopoly capitalist class and destroying the colonialist and imperialist system can the Black people in the United States win complete emancipation. The Black masses and the masses of white working people in the United States have common interests and common objectives to struggle for. Therefore, the Afro-American struggle is winning sympathy and support from increasing numbers of white working people and progressives in the United States. The struggle of the Black people in the United States is bound to merge with the American workers’ movement, and this will eventually end the criminal rule of the U.S. monopoly capitalist class.
“A New Storm Against Imperialism” (1968)

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by ZooOga: 11:31am On Sep 29, 2020
Don the Con. wink


Trump said he would bring jobs back to Ohio’s manufacturing workers. Instead, he deserted them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-said-he-would-bring-jobs-back-to-ohios-manufacturing-workers-instead-he-deserted-them/2020/09/28/d494a408-01bf-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html

Opinion by
Catherine Rampell
Columnist
September 28, 2020 at 6:05 p.m. EDT
When President Trump steps on the debate stage Tuesday night in Ohio, no doubt he will claim the Buckeye State as his turf — living proof of his economic prowess, his ability to deliver an American manufacturing renaissance.

“It’s incredible what’s happened to the area,” he said Monday, in remarks at the White House previewing his talking points about supposedly resuscitated Ohio factories. “It’s booming now.”

It’s a lie.

Not only because the poorly managed pandemic recession has destroyed 720,000 manufacturing jobs on net nationwide, including 38,000 in Ohio alone. Also because even before covid-19 broke out, Trump had deserted Ohio's manufacturing workers.

Just ask the laid-off workers themselves whether they agree that their fates represent, in Vice President Pence's terms, "promises made, promises kept."

What to know about the 2020 presidential debates

“They’ve betrayed the American worker, they’ve betrayed all those people who voted for them and supported them,” says Dave Green, the former president of the UAW Local 1112, which represented workers at a now-defunct General Motors plant in Lordstown, about an hour away from the presidential debate stage.

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In 2017, Trump held a nearby rally at which he told locals, “Don’t move, don’t sell your house,” because “we’re going to get those jobs coming back.” At that point, the GM plant, the area’s largest employer, had already ended its third (overnight) shift, an ominous sign. About a year later, the company cut its second shift the same week it announced it would build its new Chevrolet Blazer in Mexico — that is, exactly the kind of offshoring Trump promised to prevent.

Finally, in November 2018, the company announced it would soon entirely halt production of the Lordstown-built Cruze and place the Ohio plant on “unallocated” status.

Last year, the factory was shuttered.

Some workers, such as Chuckie Denison, retired once they saw the writing on the wall: He’s now selling the house Trump once assured him he shouldn’t leave. (Denison, like Green, volunteers with Our Revolution, a progressive political organization that is seeking to flip blue again districts that went for Trump in 2016 but had previously voted for Barack Obama, partly by talking about Trump’s record on manufacturing jobs.) Others, including Green, were loath to relinquish their middle-class wages and benefits, and so reluctantly accepted transfers to other U.S. plants, some far from their families.

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“I didn’t want to quit because I didn’t want to ruin my kids’ lives,” says Matt Moorhead, who had once been the union local’s sergeant-at-arms.

Moorhead’s son needed college tuition, his daughter was still in high school, and his wife’s job wasn’t movable. So he decided the best option was to leave his family in Ohio and accept a transfer to Lansing, Mich., where he would retain his $33-per-hour wage plus benefits.

But the arrangement — requiring an eight-hour round-trip drive each week and a separate apartment — proved exhausting and unsustainable.

“I wasn’t okay with being away from my family. I wasn’t okay with seeing my wife cry every Sunday when I pulled out of the driveway,” he told me.

He resigned after less than a year, cashing out his 401(k) to fund his son’s tuition. Today, he works at an Ohio golf course for about $10 an hour. As for that rising tide that he was told would lift all boats, he says: “There’s no tide. There’s the people who have stilts, and there’s the rest of us bouncing around, drowning.”

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Given the many stories like Moorhead’s — and similar ones from thousands of truckers, auto parts workers and others laid off when the GM factory closed — why on earth would Trump take a victory lap? As his recently leaked tax returns show, he’s better at marketing his business acumen than exercising it. Particularly on behalf of workers.

Sign up for The Odds newsletter for election updates from data columnist David Byler

Not long after GM officially closed the Lordstown plant, Trump announced (via Twitter, naturally) that the company would sell the facility to an electric vehicle start-up. Ergo, in Trump’s telling: jobs saved, promises kept, economic miracles achieved.

Except the deal, such as it was, left much to be desired from workers’ perspectives.

GM lent the startup newly created just for this transaction, Lordstown Motors, $40 million to buy and retool GM’s own idled factory. GM also invested $75 million in Lordstown Motors and will supply it with GM components — raising suspicions that this “new” company was merely an excuse to push out thousands of senior, unionized GM workers. And while the new firm recently unveiled a prototype for its first electric truck — the occasion for Trump’s self-back-patting comments on Monday — production won’t begin for another year.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 12:09pm On Sep 29, 2020
shegzhkn:



I normally wouldn't have a convo with you.

But since your personal lord and saviour has been attacking the ballots for month and then this now what does that tell you ??
That brainless Bluebird is not worth your time. The guy is one of the worst cultists here. All he wants is attention and by replying him, you give him more oxygen to boost his lunacy.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shegzhkn: 12:14pm On Sep 29, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
That brainless Bluebird is not worth your time. The guy is one of the worst cultists here. All he wants is attention and by replying him, you give him more oxygen to boost his lunacy.

Roger that boss, will put him in his place.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by PrideofLincoln1(m): 12:22pm On Sep 29, 2020
shegzhkn:


Roger that boss, will put him in his place.
See all the garbage that clown is posting. He defends Trump more than Trump Jnr defended his father. That guy is worse than a servile dog.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by shegzhkn: 12:32pm On Sep 29, 2020
PrideofLincoln1:
See all the garbage that clown is posting. He defends Trump more than Trump Jnr defended his father. That guy is worse than a servile dog.

I really can't explain his motivations seriously.

So bizarre, even a dummy will not support trump with what united states is going through right now because of his ineptitude, action and inaction.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by LordReed(m): 1:22pm On Sep 29, 2020
ZooOga:
Don the Con. wink


Trump said he would bring jobs back to Ohio’s manufacturing workers. Instead, he deserted them.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/trump-said-he-would-bring-jobs-back-to-ohios-manufacturing-workers-instead-he-deserted-them/2020/09/28/d494a408-01bf-11eb-897d-3a6201d6643f_story.html

Opinion by
Catherine Rampell
Columnist
September 28, 2020 at 6:05 p.m. EDT
When President Trump steps on the debate stage Tuesday night in Ohio, no doubt he will claim the Buckeye State as his turf — living proof of his economic prowess, his ability to deliver an American manufacturing renaissance.

“It’s incredible what’s happened to the area,” he said Monday, in remarks at the White House previewing his talking points about supposedly resuscitated Ohio factories. “It’s booming now.”

It’s a lie.

Not only because the poorly managed pandemic recession has destroyed 720,000 manufacturing jobs on net nationwide, including 38,000 in Ohio alone. Also because even before covid-19 broke out, Trump had deserted Ohio's manufacturing workers.

Just ask the laid-off workers themselves whether they agree that their fates represent, in Vice President Pence's terms, "promises made, promises kept."

What to know about the 2020 presidential debates

“They’ve betrayed the American worker, they’ve betrayed all those people who voted for them and supported them,” says Dave Green, the former president of the UAW Local 1112, which represented workers at a now-defunct General Motors plant in Lordstown, about an hour away from the presidential debate stage.

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In 2017, Trump held a nearby rally at which he told locals, “Don’t move, don’t sell your house,” because “we’re going to get those jobs coming back.” At that point, the GM plant, the area’s largest employer, had already ended its third (overnight) shift, an ominous sign. About a year later, the company cut its second shift the same week it announced it would build its new Chevrolet Blazer in Mexico — that is, exactly the kind of offshoring Trump promised to prevent.

Finally, in November 2018, the company announced it would soon entirely halt production of the Lordstown-built Cruze and place the Ohio plant on “unallocated” status.

Last year, the factory was shuttered.

Some workers, such as Chuckie Denison, retired once they saw the writing on the wall: He’s now selling the house Trump once assured him he shouldn’t leave. (Denison, like Green, volunteers with Our Revolution, a progressive political organization that is seeking to flip blue again districts that went for Trump in 2016 but had previously voted for Barack Obama, partly by talking about Trump’s record on manufacturing jobs.) Others, including Green, were loath to relinquish their middle-class wages and benefits, and so reluctantly accepted transfers to other U.S. plants, some far from their families.

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“I didn’t want to quit because I didn’t want to ruin my kids’ lives,” says Matt Moorhead, who had once been the union local’s sergeant-at-arms.

Moorhead’s son needed college tuition, his daughter was still in high school, and his wife’s job wasn’t movable. So he decided the best option was to leave his family in Ohio and accept a transfer to Lansing, Mich., where he would retain his $33-per-hour wage plus benefits.

But the arrangement — requiring an eight-hour round-trip drive each week and a separate apartment — proved exhausting and unsustainable.

“I wasn’t okay with being away from my family. I wasn’t okay with seeing my wife cry every Sunday when I pulled out of the driveway,” he told me.

He resigned after less than a year, cashing out his 401(k) to fund his son’s tuition. Today, he works at an Ohio golf course for about $10 an hour. As for that rising tide that he was told would lift all boats, he says: “There’s no tide. There’s the people who have stilts, and there’s the rest of us bouncing around, drowning.”

AD

Given the many stories like Moorhead’s — and similar ones from thousands of truckers, auto parts workers and others laid off when the GM factory closed — why on earth would Trump take a victory lap? As his recently leaked tax returns show, he’s better at marketing his business acumen than exercising it. Particularly on behalf of workers.

Sign up for The Odds newsletter for election updates from data columnist David Byler

Not long after GM officially closed the Lordstown plant, Trump announced (via Twitter, naturally) that the company would sell the facility to an electric vehicle start-up. Ergo, in Trump’s telling: jobs saved, promises kept, economic miracles achieved.

Except the deal, such as it was, left much to be desired from workers’ perspectives.

GM lent the startup newly created just for this transaction, Lordstown Motors, $40 million to buy and retool GM’s own idled factory. GM also invested $75 million in Lordstown Motors and will supply it with GM components — raising suspicions that this “new” company was merely an excuse to push out thousands of senior, unionized GM workers. And while the new firm recently unveiled a prototype for its first electric truck — the occasion for Trump’s self-back-patting comments on Monday — production won’t begin for another year.

There are so many things that demand the US President's time I can't imagine how he finds time to tweet and watch TV. I imagine his aides have been trying shove something related to this under his nose but he somehow has time to tweet than to look into this stuff.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:36pm On Sep 29, 2020
Bluebyrd:

Trump has paid more in taxes to the US than both of them combined.

Then the simple thing to do is for Trump to releasing his tax returns, just like how Biden and Kamala had made the information available. It is not rocket science.

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Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 1:56pm On Sep 29, 2020
First Presidential Debate

President Trump and Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden will debate each other for the first time Tuesday evening, in the first of three presidential debates.

Here are the details:

When? Tuesday, Sept. 29, from 9 to 10:30 p.m. ET. (You can listen to the debate on NPR, and we'll have a livestream video online.)

Where? Case Western Reserve University and the Cleveland Clinic, in Cleveland. (The University of Notre Dame was originally supposed to host but cited the coronavirus pandemic in withdrawing.)

Who's moderating? Chris Wallace, anchor, Fox News Sunday

What are the topics? Wallace selected the following topics:

Trump's and Biden's records
the Supreme Court
COVID-19
the economy
race and violence in U.S. cities
the integrity of the election
The debate topics are not without controversy. Three dozen Democratic senators signed a letter calling for the debates to also focus on the climate crisis, and critics objected to the framing of the fifth topic, saying it conflates the issues of race and violence.

The sixth topic comes as Trump has not committed to a peaceful transfer of power.

What's the format? The debate will consist of six segments to address the topics above, with each segment getting approximately 15 minutes.

Each candidate will have two minutes to respond to the opening question in each segment. Candidates will get a chance to respond to each other as well.

What's the state of play ahead of this first debate? Biden is currently the favorite, with polling leads in the national average and in many key states.

Will there be more debates? Yes, Tuesday's debate is the first of four debates planned. Here are the others:
Oct. 7: vice presidential debate between Vice President Pence and California Sen. Kamala Harris
Oct. 15: second presidential debate
Oct. 22: third presidential debate
Where can I watch the debate? you can find the debate on ABC, CBS, NBC, Fox, PBS, Telemundo, Univision, CNN, MSNBC, and CSPAN.

Re: American Politics Thread - 2024 Elections — Biden’s Presidency! by feedthenation(m): 2:14pm On Sep 29, 2020
How Reality-TV fame handed Trump a $427 million lifeline - The Apprentice saved him from bankruptcy,

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/28/us/donald-trump-taxes-apprentice.html

Tax records show that “The Apprentice” rescued Donald J. Trump, bringing him new sources of cash and a myth that would propel him to the White House.

From the back seat of a stretch limousine heading to meet the first contestants for his new TV show “The Apprentice,” Donald J. Trump bragged that he was a billionaire who had overcome financial hardship.

“I used my brain, I used my negotiating skills and I worked it all out,” he told viewers. “Now, my company is bigger than it ever was and stronger than it ever was.”

It was all a hoax.

Months after that inaugural episode in January 2004, Mr. Trump filed his individual tax return reporting $89.9 million in net losses from his core businesses for the prior year. The red ink spilled from everywhere, even as American television audiences saw him as a savvy business mogul with the Midas touch.

Twelve years later, that image of the self-made, self-saved mogul, beamed into the national consciousness, would help fuel Mr. Trump’s improbable election to the White House.

Licensing deal with Serta Mattress Company worth $15m, Unilever to promote a new version of All Brand laundry detergent

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