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Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Gamesmart: 11:36pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
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Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Lisaint(m): 11:36pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Cyberterror: thats how they started Badagry road with beautiful design on paper and 3D!!!then LASG through ministry of physical planning had to mark houses from agbara to Badagry roundabout! Later they change the design again and turn it to 2 Lanes (one coming and another one going with a concrete road divider in the middle) Even marina-okoko roads/rail is taking ages! Now they have come with fourth mainland to steal and enrich themselves again 2 Likes |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Ajibel(m): 11:36pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
TLE900: Are you aware that in the course of doing this project, a lot of people will be employed and paid? Isn't that a way of enriching people's pockets too |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by GoodGovernance: 11:40pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Ajibel: Whatever. I believe metro rail lines are more needed than bridges,in Lagos. Rail lines would create more extensive and permanent jobs than bridges, apart from other superior benefits. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Housing(m): 11:43pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
Cyberterror: You are ignorant of the route. Is Ijede, Itokin road on same route as the third mainland? 3 Likes |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by shugabasbn: 11:46pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
I hope when it started it won't be like Orile-Badagry express road that is taking more than century |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by pandabet(m): 11:46pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
naija4life247:is Lagos ur village don't live DAT under bridge u re staying and go back to oshogbo |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by pandabet(m): 11:47pm On Sep 29, 2020 |
naija4life247:live Lagos and go back to oshogbo |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Piddo(m): 12:03am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Cyberterror: What part of this "It starts at the Abraham Adesanya Roundabout in Lekki where a “free flow” interchange will be constructed as well as some traffic flow alterations to the existing Lekki – Epe Expressway so as to maintain traffic movements during construction."[i][/i] do you not understand? |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Nobody: 12:03am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Lagos State to Africa. Ondo State to the World . 1 Like |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by ccollins(m): 12:06am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Ajibel:you are aware that the Badagary roads are still very bad shape |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by ikorodureporta: 12:19am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Empty promise! Just to score political relevance. Una no go launch the railway line first, b4 all these. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Originalsly: 12:20am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Ajibel: .....and when the private investors hammer you with tolls do you really think you can afford it?... how long will they be waiting to recoup their investment? Weren't we shouting good development ... electricity in the hands of private investors?... and we're now wailing as they keep hammering us with more and more tariff?.... and they didn't even invest half billion? @ topic...... large cities.... with good road infrastructure and management are trying to keep traffic out of the city.... but here we are... with poor city road infrastructure ... maintenance and management..... ready to burden over burdened residents with 2 billion dollars for a bridge to bring more traffic into gridlocked Lagos.... and the residents are applauding this as a great move. Why not mass transit? One other idiot grandiose Governor was shouting cable cars as mass transit... and we applauded. Something is wrong with us. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Ajibel(m): 12:22am On Sep 30, 2020 |
ccollins: Yes sir. I'm also aware that some network of roads were recently completed in Badagry. Maybe they'll soon get to the bad ones, we hope! |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by stagger: 12:35am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Cyberterror: This fellow. What is the difference between your line of thought and that of Bubu in cancelling the Lagos Metro Project? |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Brunicekid(m): 12:39am On Sep 30, 2020 |
omowolewa:As in eeenn... That Ikorodu-to-Island part really grabbed my attention! |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by miketayo(m): 12:41am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Cyberterror: Is the 3MB connected to ikorodu or lekki.. from ajah to ikd, u have to pass either cms or epe, you will spend nothing less than 2 hours. From ikorodu water bank you can actually see lekki and ajah on the other side, by boat it's 8mins to ajah, about 25mins to lekki and 35 to VI. Imagine a bridge connecting those places. You still think it's a waste of resources 4 Likes |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by deomelo: 12:42am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Cyberterror: How are they the same? Or you mean the 3rd MB also stretches from Lekki to Ikorodu like the 4th MB? Is it by force to comment per what you know nothing about? I can't believe many ignorant people like you liked your post. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by deomelo: 12:44am On Sep 30, 2020 |
miketayo: I think he's either confused or he did not read the article or he's just in the wrong thread. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by nextstep(m): 12:45am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Impressive. Most impressive. Lagos just keeps leaving the other states behind. I lived in Surulere till 14 years old or so, when we moved to Asaba. I still have the majority of my family living in Lagos. Even now, I'm always blown away by the new developments, beautification, overheads and bridges whenever I visit Lagos. With Eko Atlantic, Banana Island, all of Lekki, the mainland bridges, now this. They try, I can't lie. What I wish would happen is that the money in Lagos would be spent on improving the environment for the average citizens... otherwise it will continue to be a mega slum for the average person. 2 Likes |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by ozor333(m): 12:47am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Cyberterror:I don't think those area you just mentioned now is part of Lagos . Why? I noticed the only area the Government have been paying attention is mainland and Island. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by 12inchess: 1:00am On Sep 30, 2020 |
naija4life247: This is a bloody waste of 2.2 billion dollars.How do I know? This is my field. I'm on my way to getting a PhD. With 2.2 billion dollars you can avoid the mistakes made in the U.S and build a city with traffic like in Singapore and in Europe. More cars mean more money for the auto companies right but what we really need in Lagos is sustainable transportation. Expand the BRT service. Introduce public transit. Fund mass commuter traffic to the island. You can achieve all this with that kind of money. Another bridge will soon get filled up with more cars and trust me the traffic never ends. Soon some Lagosians will purchase self driving cars and it will make the traffic even way worse in 10 to 15 years time. You think it's impossible? Just wait and see. Nigerians like Ego trips. I'd add this picture to prove my point that a city as dense as Lagos does not need another 3rd mainland bridge. This is just and avenue to...... you know the rest. 3 Likes
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Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by ariesbull: 1:00am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Too expensive.. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by COMPAQ(m): 1:08am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Omooba77: Very valid point. Mass transit via rail is perhaps more of a priority for Lagos that 4th mainland bridge. We can't design Lagos around driving alone. How about completing the satellite to Marina rail? How about completing the Red rail line from marina to berger? How about completing the badagry expressway. Even a rail line from Marina past VI, Oniru and on to Dangote refinery would be brilliant. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by olaremint(m): 1:11am On Sep 30, 2020 |
LAGOS no be Forest (Edo). Their eyes will soon clear. People that refuse to be liberated. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by deomelo: 1:16am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Originalsly: Gridlock is the effect of less in and out points out of the cities,, like too many vehicular traffic heading to the same exit and entry points within the cities, the 4th MB os designed to take away heavy traffic from the other entry and exit points. The 4th MB means removal or diversion of tens of thousands of cars and other vehicular traffic per day away from Ikorodu road and other city roads, this takes pressure of the main and inner city roads. I don't get how it's possible to criticize and lay blames for horrible traffic and gridlock while at the same time attacking and criticizing sane and rational solutions put in place to address the same thing you are criticizing? What they are proposing and what they are trying to address are basic solutions and common sense, it's not rocket science. I think many of you are either confused or just criticizing just to hear yourself talk, I just don't get it. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by Originalsly: 1:35am On Sep 30, 2020 |
deomelo: You speak as though it is necessary for the traffic to enter the city. How will another bridge reduce congestion in the city? I guess common sense is what city planners in developed countries don't have... the reason they emphasize mass transit and not more bridges. 2 Likes |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by deomelo: 2:09am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Originalsly: Inner City congestion is largely due to vehicular traffic leaving and entering the city, not from within and if you remove the traffic heading to the entry and exit points aka the bridges, you reduce inner city congestion, it means less mixture of people going from point A to point B within the city and the traffic trying to get out of the city. Now look at the 3rd MB or folks leaving the island and heading to maybe Yaba, Ebute Meta, Palmgrove, Ilupeju, Anthony, Ikeja, Mile 12, Sagamu, Ijebu Ode and so on, they all have to first share the 3r MB and tie up all the roads from Ebute Meta to Yaba, Fadeyi, Maryland and even all the way to Ikorodu, but with the 4th MB, you seperate them all, the folks heading to Ikorodu axis, Ijede, Shagamu, Ijebu ode and so on can just get on the 4th MB and leave the 3rd MB for the folks heading to Yaba, Ebute Meta, Palmgrove, Ilupeju, Anthony, Ikeja other parts of Lagos. You reduce inner city traffic when you have multiple entry and exit points. What I think you are concerned about has nothing to do with 4th MB, it's more about people living in congested human areas, overpopulation and so on, you can not build enough roads to address overpopulation and people living in densely populated areas. LASG can not keep up with population pressure on infrastructures and $3-4 Billion budget for more than 20 million people and several thousands crossing into Lagos everyday is not and never going to be enough. If you are going to talk about vehicular congestion, you must also address and talk about human congestion that the state can not keep up with no matter what. |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by adeoba2008(m): 2:29am On Sep 30, 2020 |
naija4life247:I second the motion . 1 Like |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by ezekins: 2:37am On Sep 30, 2020 |
naija4life247:Lagos is it your village? Every yoruba is claiming lagosian. Mere settlers. History does not lie 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: 800 Houses To Go As Lagos Proposes $2.2 Billon For 4th Mainland Bridge by anonimi: 2:38am On Sep 30, 2020 |
Enudapan: Just like the repeated lies on the light rail that they have claimed billions of dollars spent, including a World Bank loan. www.nairaland.com/attachments/2135824_image_jpeg9f360c5ab7736510df54c882e9dbf188 TTC in talks to sell old trains to Lagos. Are they safe enough? AUGUST 10, 2011 As Toronto trainspotters gleefully take maiden rides on the TTC's Rocket, commuters in Lagos, Nigeria may be about to get some new trains of their own. Our old ones. A TTC spokesperson has confirmed that the commission is negotiating with a private group to sell up to 260 used train cars to the West African megacity's new transit project. "I can confirm that the TTC is in discussion with a third party that wants to purchase trains for Lagos," said commission spokesperson Brad Ross. "Over a period of time, they will be taken out of service and then transported over to Nigeria." The cars being considered for sale are the TTC's old H-5 and H-6 models, which will be decommissioned as the TTC rolls out its new fleet of Rockets. Ross predicts the earliest they could be shipped to Nigeria is sometime in 2012. Traffic snarls are already a major economic problem in the Nigerian capital, a booming city that will reach an estimated population of 25 million by 2015. A new above-ground rail system designed to carry 1.5 million people a day has already broken ground, and Lagos Governor Babtunde Fashola has said it "will be the most multi-dimensional and most impactful" of the government's efforts to reduce traffic congestion. Fashola visited Toronto earlier this year to inspect the TTC trains. The Lagos deal would be the first of its kind for the TTC. Decommissioned cars are usually sold for scrap metal and can fetch up to $1,500 dollar each. While Ross declined to discuss specific figures, he says the sticker price for Lagos is "significantly more" than scrap prices, putting the potential profits to the TTC in the millions of dollars. It is not unusual for technology from western nations to end up in poorer countries. Marketplaces in Africa and Asia are flooded with North American clothes, computers, and even cars, but the purchase of larger technology like trains is rarer. The cars will have to be significantly refurbished to fit existing infrastructure in Lagos, and some Nigerian media reports have lamented that the government appears to have settled on "tokundo," or used, trains instead of brand new vehicles. Although half the cars are more than 30 years old, Ross is adamant they are perfectly safe and are only being decommissioned for capacity reasons. But he also admitted the TTC is not required to make sure the cars meet any safety standards before selling them. "Once sold, it's up to the new operator to ensure they are in good working order," he said. "They do need to be maintained much more frequently than the new trains, simply because of their age. At some point they will run out their useful life." Murtaza Haider, director of the Institute of Housing and Mobility at Ryerson University, said the age of the cars is definitely a cause for concern. "We should be ensuring that there is some service life left in these vehicles and we're not going to be playing havoc with the lives of those who would ride these vehicles," Haider said. "There's metal fatigue, and that metal fatigue could result in dangerous conditions. I would be paying a close watch on this for the next ten years to see how many accidents do happen in Lagos." He also warned that while rail systems are glamorous as far as transit infrastructure goes, they are not always as effective at reducing congestion as other options. Nevertheless, new rail systems are frequently preferred because governments can take advantage of kickbacks from large contracts. According to media reports, the cost estimates for the Lagos rail project have varied wildly from $1.2 billion to $30 billion. In 2010, a Nigerian government watchdog accused Fashola's government of widespread corruption. "More often than not, politicians favour rail transit because it is more expensive," Haider said. "It's almost useless in some cases, and less productive in most cases, than a bus system. But you can't buy busses for $30 billion. You can inflate prices and make a lot of money buying a rail system." From: https://nowtoronto.com/news/next-stop-nigeria/ ojuoluwani: Lagos light rail’ll be ready in June – Fashola 1 Like |
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