CodeTemplar:
Doing the lords work by saying people shouldn't tithe. You must be another one commissioned from the outermost darkness.

Why shouldnt the people tithe? When mammon is thier God. Thier God will bless them with earthy riches if they bow and worship him..
That's why you see 100 seater auditoriums filled to the brim. But scriptures say.. Narrow is the way.
How can all those people fit in a narrow way?

petra1:


You should be embarrassed as long as you cannot explain yourself from scriptures.

How can a PhD holder explain to a primary school pupil? His words will be nonsense to the pupil.misinterpreting Bible exactly as your pastor does. Can't you even use common sense? Not to talk of the spirit helping.

I know your type

It's your type that prays to a white Jesus.
It's your type that worships Jesus when Clearly you should only to the father.
It's your type that wishes his enemy death and say he is not a pagan.

petra1:


You should be embarrassed as long as you cannot explain yourself from scriptures.

I should explain to you from scriptures that honor thy father and mother means your earthly parents and not your pastors. Or that christ said you should call no one on earth father means your only spiritual father is God in heaven?or I should explain to you that an advise from Paul that we should fellowship with our brethren is necessary for spiritual growth but not compulsory.. Or that our bodies are the temple of the lord.. That we are the church.. Or that God is everywhere and that God does not live in temples built by humans?

Is that not a waste of time?

genkins:


Why shouldnt the people tithe? When mammon is thier God. Thier God will bless them with earthy riches if they bow and worship him..
That's why you see 100 seater auditoriums filled to the brim. But scriptures say.. Narrow is the way.
How can all those people fit in a narrow way?

Bringing in tithe into the Lord's house for meat or needs isn't mammon worship Jay-jay Otumokpor.

Even the scriptures says "money answereth to all things". You need benches to seat members? Money answereth to benches.
You need a sound system to make them hear clearly what is being feed? Money answereth to sound system. You need to extend seating areas with canopies? Money answereth to all things including canopies.

The congregation on the other hand offer divers services and goods that cannot be directly applied to or given to the church in exchange for money, and pay monetary tithe. Commonsense should tell you a teacher or sch admin cannot admit one tenth of his student as tithe but can pay one tenth of his overall increase as tithe.

CodeTemplar:
Bringing in tithe into the Lord's house for meat or needs isn't mammon worship Jay-jay Otumokpor.

Even the scriptures says "money answereth to all things". You need benches to seat members? Money answereth to benches.
You need a sound system to make them hear clearly what is being feed? Money answereth to sound system. You need to extend seating areas with canopies? Money answereth to all things including canopies.

The congregation on the other hand offer divers services and goods that cannot be directly applied to or given to the church in exchange for money, and pay monetary tithe. Commonsense should tell you a teacher or sch admin cannot admit one tenth of his student as tithe but can pay one tenth of his overall increase as tithe.

Repeating what your pastor told you. Money? What happened to freewill offering? Money is not gotten from freewill offering? You see now that you just tied ur self with rope. Lol. As if the reason for collecting tithe under the old law was for even canopies and sound system.. Lol.. Pastors Sha,God will reward them for this high level brainwashing

LilMissFavvy:
How can he feel threatened when he has lived his life till his elderly age, and has never been involved in scandals.what exactly do you mean by threatened? The last few times i saw him in the news, it was all about helping the needy.

Ibiomiye and Eneche's outboast/threat to Daddy Freeze is an indication that they are being threaten......
By the way helping the needy does not mean giving them food(one square meal) as seen shared by Eneche and family.....after all they made them poor by constantly collecting from them......
Show me how to fish, don't give me the fish....

This is the reason Church is not the Building but the people.....for 3 months the doom was closed because of coronavirus yet people were hungry....

The government, the Church and any other organization is about building the people (society)

Spending billions on a building where over 70% of the members are hungry/poor is not of God

genkins:


How can a PhD holder explain to a primary school pupil? His words will be nonsense to the pupil.misinterpreting Bible exactly as your pastor does. Can't you even use common sense? Not to talk of the spirit helping.

Okay professor . Explain Hebrew 10:25

genkins:


Repeating what your pastor told you. Money? What happened to freewill offering? Money is not gotten from freewill offering? You see now that you just tied ur self with rope. Lol. As if the reason for collecting tithe under the old law was for even canopies and sound system.. Lol.. Pastors Sha,God will reward them for this high level brainwashing

Freewill offering is very much alive. Offering is different from tithe. It was offering the widow with two mite gave when Jesus commended her for giving above all others present. Tithe is one tenth of increase and compulsory. Offering is of freewill, that's why Jesus only stressed the fact that the widow gave more. In tithe, there is no more or less, 10% is 10% irrespective of its size.

desiredhome:


Ibiomiye and Eneche's outboast/threat to Daddy Freeze is an indication that they are being threaten......
By the way helping the needy does not mean giving them food(one square meal) as seen shared by Eneche and family.....after all they made them poor by constantly collecting from them......
Show me how to fish, don't give me the fish....


This is the reason Church is not the Building but the people.....for 3 months the doom was closed because of coronavirus yet people were hungry....

The government, the Church and any other organization is about building the people (society)

Spending billions on a building where over 70% of the members are hungry/poor is not of God

How can one-tenth of your income render the remaining 90% useless?

To take stupîdity to new heights, you say they should teach people how to fish. So Jesus was a technocrat or what are you saying.

CodeTemplar:

How can one-tenth of your income render the remaining 90% useless?

To take stupîdity to new heights, you say they should teach people how to fish. So Jesus was a technocrat or what are you saying.

Government takes less than 10% from workers salary/income and they are saddle with the responsibility of good road, schools and other basic amenities...... These Penticostal collects 10% of your salaries, different seeds offerings, daily offerings etc ...... And they can't give back to the society, not even to the members that contributed...,...
It's out of ignorant for someone to compare the evil we see today with Jesus time.....

desiredhome:

Government takes less than 10% from workers salary/income and they are saddle with the responsibility of good road, schools and other basic amenities...... These Penticostal collects 10% of your salaries, different seeds offerings, daily offerings etc ...... And they can't give back to the society, not even to the members that contributed...,...
It's out of ignorant for someone to compare the evil we see today with Jesus time.....

You missed it. Govt takes all the oil resources income then pay part of it as salary and project cost into the economy, part of the partial money goes to Christians who then pay part of it back to the church(as seed) and govt(as tax). That leaves the govt with over 95% of the wealth. Olodo...

CodeTemplar:
You missed it. Govt takes all the oil resources income then pay part of it as salary and project cost into the economy, part of the partial money goes to Christians who then pay part of it back to the church(as seed) and govt(as tax). That leaves the govt with over 95% of the wealth. Olodo...

The question is what is the responsibility/impact of the church to the society?

desiredhome:

The question is what is the responsibility/impact of the church to the society?

I can see you have shifted goal post. That's a good sign for our previous exchange.

As for the responsibility of the church. The church is a place for God's own people who have accepted Him. The church is primarily a place for God's people to be nourished spiritually.
Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from God. Part of this feeding(spiritual) takes place in the church.
They bring morals and value into the society. They have also extended themselves by building schools, hospitals, and many other public projects that serve the needs of the society at large - a plus. Also they carry out charity as they are led.

petra1:


The lord

where art thou sense ??

Freshboi87:


where art thou sense ??

Very intact

1Co 4:3
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord..

So where is your own sense

petra1:


Very intact

1Co 4:3
But with me it is a very small thing that I should be judged of you, or of man's judgment: yea, I judge not mine own self. For I know nothing by myself; yet am I not hereby justified: but he that judgeth me is the Lord..

So where is your own sense

So correcting someone is the same as judging the person abi........use your God given brain for once

Freshboi87:


So correcting someone is the same as judging the person abi........

You’re learning at last!

CodeTemplar:
I can see you have shifted goal post. That's a good sign for our previous exchange.

As for the responsibility of the church. The church is a place for God's own people who have accepted Him. The church is primarily a place for God's people to be nourished spiritually.
Man shall not live by bread alone but by every word that proceeds from God. Part of this feeding(spiritual) takes place in the church.
They bring morals and value into the society. They have also extended themselves by building schools, hospitals, and many other public projects that serve the needs of the society at large - a plus. Also they carry out charity as they are led.

Be writing jacon as expected..
That you are a going to church or build the largest church in Nigeria or Africa does not make you a Christian or a child of God.......

By their fruits you shall know them.....with the number of people that claiming to be children of God today and the rising cases of curruption and criminality in our society shows you are just deceiving yourselves......

Saying the church also build schools etc....if those facilities cannot be accessable by the common man how is that impacting the society?

Why using the church facilities for profit making when the funds used for them were free will donations?.....this is the reason your church is a scam and God/Jesus Christ is not a scammer....
Stop making it look like God/Jesus Christ is a lier or scammer

CodeTemplar:
Freewill offering is very much alive. Offering is different from tithe. It was offering the widow with two mite gave when Jesus commended her for giving above all others present. Tithe is one tenth of increase and compulsory. Offering is of freewill, that's why Jesus only stressed the fact that the widow gave more. In tithe, there is no more or less, 10% is 10% irrespective of its size.

Lol.. My dear, there is nothing like compulsory giving in Christianity... Lol.. Pastors ehn...

And further more about the widow that gave her last 2 mites, did u read further when Jesus said that the temple will be brought down..?

The temple that took the last 2mite of the widow was brought down eventually.. Ur pastor won't tell u that

desiredhome:

Be writing jacon as expected..
That you are a going to church or build the largest church in Nigeria or Africa does not make you a Christian or a child of God.......

By their fruits you shall know them.....with the number of people that claiming to be children of God today and the rising cases of curruption and criminality in our society shows you are just deceiving yourselves......

Saying the church also build schools etc....if those facilities cannot be accessable by the common man how is that impacting the society?

Why using the church facilities for profit making when the funds used for them were free will donations?.....this is the reason your church is a scam and God/Jesus Christ is not a scammer....
Stop making it look like God/Jesus Christ is a lier or scammer

I knew you are irredeemable before replying but did so for the sake of others. Now go and concoct another anti-church and post.

genkins:


Lol.. My dear, there is nothing like compulsory giving in Christianity... Lol.. Pastors ehn...

And further more about the widow that gave her last 2 mites, did u read further when Jesus said that the temple will be brought down..?

The temple that took the last 2mite of the widow was brought down eventually.. Ur pastor won't tell u that

Mathew 23:23

CodeTemplar:
I knew you are irredeemable before replying but did so for the sake of others. Now go and concoct another anti-church and post.

Sake of others ko in your mind now you've made sense abi?.....
That is all you can understand..... Church is different from business centers ..... Follow God and not Church.......

petra1:


Okay professor . Explain Hebrew 10:25

I should still explain to you that Paul wrote hebrews advising them to not neglect gathering together and encouraging themselves by it...

Are you a child.?

If you don't attend jamb classes but you decide to study alone at home, does it mean that you will fail the exams?if someone advises you to attend jamb classes that it is better does that mean he is saying if u don't, you will fail?

Is there anyway christ said you must gather in big temples to make heaven?God is everywhere my friend. Where 2 and 3 are gathered.. E.g father, mother and children.. E never do?

CodeTemplar:
Mathew 23:23

Lol.. Very funny. Was jesus referring to Christians or his followers? Was Jesus not even born under the law of Moses or Judaism? My dear, here, Jesus is telling those that practice a different religion called Judaism that in that thier religion, love, justice and mercy are even more important than giving of tithes..as in whether them no get sense to see am so?

Pastors ehn

genkins:


Lol.. Very funny. Was jesus referring to Christians or his followers? Was Jesus not even born under the law of Moses or Judaism? My dear, here, Jesus is telling those that practice a different religion called Judaism that in that thier religion, love, justice and mercy are even more important than giving of tithes..as in whether them no get sense to see am so?

Pastors ehn

Lol.... say what did Jesus have to say about Illuminati and Islam? I thought he was sent to the lost ship of Israel. lol.....

CodeTemplar:
Lol.... say what did Jesus have to say about Illuminati and Islam? I thought he was sent to the lost ship of Israel. lol.....

Very funny. Ship of Isreal? Do u know what Judaism is?

genkins:


I should still explain to you that Paul wrote hebrews advising them to not neglect gathering together and encouraging themselves by it...

Are you a child.?

If you don't attend jamb classes but you decide to study alone at home, does it mean that you will fail the exams?if someone advises you to attend jamb classes that it is better does that mean he is saying if u don't, you will fail?

Is there anyway christ said you must gather in big temples to make heaven?God is everywhere my friend. Where 2 and 3 are gathered.. E.g father, mother and children.. E never do?

Trash

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes:
but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

petra1:



You should be rather embarrassed by your lack of comprehension. And misquoting my post

.

You don't have to continue to be an embarrassed Christian todler.

petra1:


Okay professor . Explain Hebrew 10:25

PhD

Babyfreeze has released another YouTube video, you people should subscribe and watch instead of all these banter na.

petra1:


Trash

Proverbs 12:15
The way of a fool is right in his own eyes:
but he that hearkeneth unto counsel is wise.

Lol.. You still can't comprehend? .. God will reward these pastors for frying a young man's brain like yours. Even English is confusing to you.. U are scared to give ur spiritual interpretation' make we nor laugh u. Lol

genkins:


Lol.. You still can't comprehend? .. God will reward these pastors for frying a young man's brain like yours. Even English is confusing to you.. U are scared to give ur spiritual interpretation' make we nor laugh u. Lol

1 Corinthians 2:14
But the natural man does not receive the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; nor can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.