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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by giles14(m): 10:22pm On Oct 02, 2020
RemoveKebab:
I pray Armenia find a reliable big brother like the U.S is doing in Israel, taiwan and rest.
Russia is no reliable one. Forget what they did in Syria, it was only for their economic survival to keep asad in power so as to secure their supply of gas to Europe and to deter Saudis from building a gas pipe through syria to Europe.

I really feel for them because of the genocide that almost wipe them out in the past orchestrated by the same ottoman Turkey while Russia still yet did nothing then.
i think Russia is just punishing Armenia for nor being loyalty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hny0IhZJnDQ

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RemoveKebab: 10:26pm On Oct 02, 2020
giles14:
i think Russia is just punishing Armenia for nor being loyalty
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hny0IhZJnDQ
Now this is someone that understand a comment.

If Armenia joins NATO tomorrow and have America place bases on its soil,
Russia have no rights to cry and make useless theats because this is their undoing.

Imagine another NATO base in the Caucasus am sure iran wont be happy too.

Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Odunayaw(m): 10:33pm On Oct 02, 2020
"If we were serious, it won't take up to one week" "it will end in a single night"


Foolish talks like this shouldn't be encouraged. O wrong na

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:38pm On Oct 02, 2020
RemoveKebab:
you are not getting my point and you going totally off point.
the drones Azeris are using is it domestic made? Is it not turkey who supplied state of the act drones or even piloting them to weaken Armenian defense lines. why not let them fight with what you yourself posted there. can't Russia help Armenians as a reliable ally supply for example Tunguska AAs in this desperate time. This look like Armenia vs Azerbaijan and turkey. That why I gave an example of a reliable big brother like The US is doing in Taiwan against the mighty china.

And for the record if Nigerian politicians are ready to end war on terror it will end in a single night because they are feeding fat from it, so sorry to tell you it will get worst for now.
So I can't waste my feelings on a nation deceiving its self, I can only feel for the frontline soldiers wose lives are been used as a commodity fuel the business venture.

This is Nairaland, not Armenia land.

Take your whining and Crying to Armenia or Russia land.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RemoveKebab: 10:58pm On Oct 02, 2020
kabe1:


This is Nairaland, not Armenia land.

Take your whining and Crying to Armenia or Russia land.
Na you sabi
Have made my point
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RemoveKebab: 11:44pm On Oct 02, 2020
Odunayaw:
"If we were serious, it won't take up to one week" "it will end in a single night"


Foolish talks like this shouldn't be encouraged. O wrong na
is just a metaphor of how quick it can end. If all this are in place which is easy.

Competent leaders and commanders, right tools and gears, low corruption level, excellent welfare and incentives to boost troop moral and discipline.
And most importantly reduction of unemployment and improving standard of living so as to deter replenishment of enemy troops.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Tinfoil: 12:34am On Oct 03, 2020
RemoveKebab:
I pray Armenia find a reliable big brother like the U.S is doing in Israel, taiwan and rest.
Russia is no reliable one. Forget what they did in Syria, it was only for their economic survival to keep asad in power so as to secure their supply of gas to Europe and to deter Saudis from building a gas pipe through syria to Europe.

I really feel for them because of the genocide that almost wipe them out in the past orchestrated by the same ottoman Turkey while Russia still yet did nothing then.

What’s surprising is that Armenia and Russia are in the Collective Security Treaty Organization. By now Russia should be Fighting in defense of Armenia

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Daverytimes(m): 3:01am On Oct 03, 2020
Tinfoil:


What’s surprising is that Armenia and Russia are in the Collective Security Treaty Organization. By now Russia should be Fighting in defense of Armenia

Nagono-Karabakh is not Armenia, the CSTO only kicks in when Armenia is attacked, which is why Azerbaijan is very careful in not attacking Armenia proper and denies downing any jets in Armenian airspace.

To recap, NK is not Armenia, Russia is not obligated to help Armenia keep hold of a territory that the UN officially recognized as Azerbaijani. And even if they wanted to help Armenia, it takes a while to build up forces, it's only been 5 days, and the logistics of getting additional troops to Armenia from Russia is not easy.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by RemoveKebab: 6:10am On Oct 03, 2020
All to say if the war ends in Azeri total victory, turkey will be the biggest winner in terms of geopolitical influence and economic growth in their military industrial complex, many nations will bid for their military tech especially the ones religiously similar,
Which may even rival Russia in near future. Because ottomen as we know them in the past can be very ambitious.

I hope military observers are seeing the future of warfare which will be dominated by unmanned gears.
Its better in both political and economic to lose war machines in battles than seeing body bags return home. Body bags which could have rebuilt your economy.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by GeneralFarouq: 7:53am On Oct 03, 2020
RemoveKebab:
All to say if the war ends in Azeri total victory, turkey will be the biggest winner in terms of geopolitical influence and economic growth in their military industrial complex, many nations will bid for their military tech especially the ones religiously similar,
Which may even rival Russia in near future. Because ottomen as we know them in the past can be very ambitious.

I hope military observers are seeing the future of warfare which will be dominated by unmanned gears.
Its better in both political and economic to lose war machines in battles than seeing body bags return home. Body bags which could have rebuilt your economy.
Funilly, the more unmanned war becomes, the easier it is to get into.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Whyem15: 8:36am On Oct 03, 2020
Russia has been resupplying Armenia through Iran, Russia can't do more than that as both countries are former soviet republics and Russia has hopes of swaying both countries to its side. They want to have more countries like Belarus around them.
It seems as if US is on Azerbaijan's side. The loitering munitions widely used by Azerbaijan is made in Israel and several cargo planes have made trips between Israel and Azerbaijan since the war began. In fact Armenia has recalled her Ambassador to Israel in protest to continued Israeli arming and support for Azerbaijan. Washington can stop that but Washington is not willing to. Washington can enforce an arms embargo on Azerbaijan but Washington has her own games.
When Armenia stops siting on the fence and picks a side between Russia and US, they will get the benefit of a trusted and loyal ally.
It took Russia less than a day to deploy two plane loads of troops after Bolton threatened Venezuela and two US bombers harrased the country.
The politics in this war is far beyond religion.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:51am On Oct 03, 2020
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 9:59am On Oct 03, 2020
Whyem15:
Russia has been resupplying Armenia through Iran, Russia can't do more than that as both countries are former soviet republics and Russia has hopes of swaying both countries to its side. They want to have more countries like Belarus around them.
It seems as if US is on Azerbaijan's side. The loitering munitions widely used by Azerbaijan is made in Israel and several cargo planes have made trips between Israel and Azerbaijan since the war began. In fact Armenia has recalled her Ambassador to Israel in protest to continued Israeli arming and support for Azerbaijan. Washington can stop that but Washington is not willing to. Washington can enforce an arms embargo on Azerbaijan but Washington has her own games.
When Armenia stops siting on the fence and picks a side between Russia and US, they will get the benefit of a trusted and loyal ally.
It took Russia less than a day to deploy two plane loads of troops after Bolton threatened Venezuela and two US bombers harrased the country.
The politics in this war is far beyond religion.

In addition to what you have said, until Armenia proper is attacked, I don't think Russia would openly support Armenia.

As you have said, both countries are former soviet republics, so it's a balancing act for Russia.

Like we've seen in Eastern Ukraine, drones, even armed ones are not a problem for Russia. I just feel like the Russians want to see how this develops.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 10:11am On Oct 03, 2020
Nigerian Air Force

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Dave0116(m): 10:46am On Oct 03, 2020
kabe1:
Nigerian Air Force
Dem dey call fish, crayfish dey come out.... Radarada.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by jteku(m): 12:59pm On Oct 03, 2020
kabe1:


Proforce seems to be doing quite a lot of business in Nigeria. Which is good.

I like the PF2, which state is this?

This doesn't look like Abuja.

CBN yakubu Gowon way Kaduna
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:18pm On Oct 03, 2020
jteku:


CBN yakubu Gowon way Kaduna

Ok, thanks.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:32pm On Oct 03, 2020
4 Special Forces Regiment - "Iron Fist from the Sea"

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 2:35pm On Oct 03, 2020
When the UK SBS came for joint exercises with 4SFR

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:42pm On Oct 03, 2020
Various pictures from Nigeria.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 2:51pm On Oct 03, 2020
Upgrade Nigerian Air Force Alpha Jet avionics.

Work done completely in Nigeria.

This means the Alpha Jets can fly day & night attacks. SFO can now call in airstrikes, send GPS coordinates of their loc to fighter pilots and those jets are sure of getting there accurately.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 3:13pm On Oct 03, 2020
Farewell parade for retiring Chief of the SA Air Force...

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Lurker4Long: 3:13pm On Oct 03, 2020
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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:30pm On Oct 03, 2020
Brand New AW-109 helicopter for NIMASA Deep Blue Project spotted flying in Italy.

The helicopters would be flown by the Nigerian Navy.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by Toju200(m): 3:36pm On Oct 03, 2020
kabe1:
Brand New AW-109 helicopter for NIMASA Deep Blue Project spotted flying in Italy.

The helicopters would be flown by the Nigerian Air Force.
I thought it would be flown by NN then the Special mission Aircrafts will be flown by NAF
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 3:45pm On Oct 03, 2020
Toju200:
I thought it would be flown by NN then the Special mission Aircrafts will be flown by NAF

You're correct.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by dragon2(m): 5:43pm On Oct 03, 2020
The future of warfare is not drones,the future of warfare cannot be a platform but rather a system. In our age it is AI enhanced electronic/spectrum warfare with space being the high ground. Sending the enemy back to the 1940's while maintaining your advantage will win you the war against a peer adversary. Very early on in a major peer war, kinetic kill missiles will take out all near earth satellites leaving deep space units. Submarines will cut ALL enemy deep sea optical fibre cables. The airwaves will be saturated with hostile electronic broadcast. Drones will be taken out by hacking, disorientation, disruption of communication with base station using active EW; or Passive radar which will pick up its communication and vector SAM batteries, fighter aircraft or ground infantry with a shoulder mounted SAM to the target drone. EMP weapons will be everywhere. Drones will find it hard to survive such hostile EM environments unless closely followed by an aerial support unit with ISTAR,SIGINT. However, such units will be subject to being hit by long range AA missiles.
My 2kobo.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:01pm On Oct 03, 2020
dragon2:
The future of warfare is not drones,the future of warfare cannot be a platform but rather a system. In our age it is AI enhanced electronic/spectrum warfare with space being the high ground. Sending the enemy back to the 1940's while maintaining your advantage will win your the war against a peer adversary. Very early on in a major peer war, kinetic kill missiles will take out all near earth satellites leaving deep space units. Submarines will cut ALL enemy deep sea optical fibre cables. The airwaves will be saturated with hostile electronic broadcast. Drones will be taken out by hacking, disorientation, disruption of communication with base station using active EW; or Passive radar (PESA) which will pick up its communication and vector SAM batteries, fighter aircraft or ground infantry with a shoulder mounted SAM to the target drone. EMP weapons will be everywhere. Drones will find it hard to survive such hostile EM environments unless closely followed by an aerial support unit with ISTAR,SIGINT. However, such units will be subject to being hit by long range AA missiles.
My 2kobo.


I disagree with this. The future of warfare is network and communication.

The party that sees first, kills first.

There would never be a great power war. All the major countries understand this. There will never be economic sanctions on a great power that will lead to direct war between great powers. The reality of MAD makes certain of this.

If the Cuban missile crisis did not lead to war between the US & the USSR, nothing would make today's world powers go to war with each other.

So the kind of military confrontation you are describing above is not going to occur. That's more of a great power confrontation.

Which leaves only conflict against lower peer countries who might have some of the capabilities you have described.

War on extremist ideology

Political conflict

Civil wars

LICW, insurgency, terrorism and revolutionary wars.

Hence the future of warfare is network centric. The army that can pick up, see and deploy technology faster has a higher probability of victory in the warfare of the future.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by dragon2(m): 7:33pm On Oct 03, 2020
kabe1:


I disagree with this. The future of warfare is network and communication.

The party that sees first, kills first.

There would never be a great power war. All the major countries understand this. There will never be economic sanctions on a great power that will lead to direct war between great powers. The reality of MAD makes certain of this.

If the Cuban missile crisis did not lead to war between the US & the USSR, nothing would make today's world powers go to war with each other.

So the kind of military confrontation you are describing above is not going to occur. That's more of a great power confrontation.

Which leaves only conflict against lower peer countries who might have some of the capabilities you have described.

War on extremist ideology

Political conflict

Civil wars

LICW, insurgency, terrorism and revolutionary wars.

Hence the future of warfare is network centric. The army that can pick up and deploy technology faster has a higher probability of victory in the warfare of the future.

Actually,you agree with me. Network and communication or its absence. Wiping/degrading the enemy electronic network command and control while enhancing your is what spectrum warfare is all about.
Concerning MAD( Mutually Assured Destruction). It takes one mad man to launch one nuke to toss (MAD) into the gutter. There have been many mad leaders in the past.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by dragon2(m): 7:37pm On Oct 03, 2020
The error of good people is thinking everyone is like them.

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Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by kabe1: 7:41pm On Oct 03, 2020
dragon2:



Concerning MAD( Mutually Assured Destruction). It takes one mad man to launch one nuke to toss (MAD) into the gutter. There have been many mad leaders in the past.

My point is, there are multiple methods of warhead delivery, as such no one will win.

Hence if leaders understood this at the height of the cold war, it won't happen today when the world is far more interconnected.
Re: African Militaries/ Security Services Strictly Photos Only And Videos Thread by dragon2(m): 7:48pm On Oct 03, 2020
kabe1:


My point is, there are multiple methods of warhead delivery, as such no one will win.

Hence if leaders understood this at the height of the cold war, it won't happen today when the world is far more interconnected.

It is sane leaders that understand that not mad leaders. Wars are started by mad leaders.

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