IKON360:

And this was against prime Barca in the past decade.
Physicality is always crucial in football

Against prime Barça?

Do you know what you're saying. Prime Barça was the best team in the world(across all sports). Prime barca was the sextuple Barça. The Barça that all teams ,physical or not, always received thrashing from. That Barça was UNPLAYABLE. However all empires that rise must fall.

as at the 7-1 thrashing and the La Liga crown loss, Barça was at a low those period. The world knew.

joviegghead:


Hmmmm.

So Koeman's 'training with intensity' has been for what?

To fly on the pitch? Wasn't he the one talking about intense physical fitness and all?

I'm not comfortable with koeman's excuse.

I wonder. Some people think football has become rugby.

joviegghead:


Against prime Barça?

Do you know what you're saying. Prime Barça was the best team in the world(across all sports). Prime barca was the sextuple Barça. The Barça that all teams ,physical or not, always received thrashing from. That Barça was UNPLAYABLE. However all empires that rise must fall.

as at the 7-1 thrashing and the La Liga crown loss, Barça was at a low those period. The world knew.

Fans have short memories.

joviegghead:


Against prime Barça?

Do you know what you're saying. Prime Barça was the best team in the world(across all sports). Prime barca was the sextuple Barça. The Barça that all teams ,physical or not, always received thrashing from. That Barça was UNPLAYABLE. However all empires that rise must fall.

as at the 7-1 thrashing and the La Liga crown loss, Barça was at a low those period. The world knew.

Barca of 2015 was also very powerful. And Guardiola also coached Barca to UCL triumph in 2010/2011 and those were prime Barca sides. With Xavi and Iniesta and co at the peak of their powers

IKON360:

Barca of 2015 was also very powerful. And Guardiola also coached Barca to UCL triumph in 2010/2011 and those were prime Barca sides. With Xavi and Iniesta and co at the peak of their powers

The Barça of 2015 wasn't as powerful as 2010/2011.
The power of 2015 Barça was the MSN trio,the best trio ever. The friendship and cooperation of Messi, Neymar and Suarez was just insane. Iniesta, Alba and Rakitic helped

But the power of 2010/2011 or Guardiola's Barça was the whole team + Tiki Taka(beautiful football at Its peak). That was the Barça that will have over 70% ball possession whether home or away. That same Barça had the highest number of pass. They would pass around the opponent into the net. They made life miserable for teams. it got to a point that football fans sometimes complained of their overwhelming dominance.

I'm still yet to see a team as dominant as that team.

joviegghead:


Hmmmm.

So Koeman's 'training with intensity' has been for what?

To fly on the pitch? Wasn't he the one talking about intense physical fitness and all?

I'm not comfortable with koeman's excuse.

Well like I said there could be exeptions from time to time.

There are always exceptions in life.

Let's hope that this team conquers all territories.

GrammarNazi1:

I wonder. Some people think football has become rugby.

Lol

Like how many epl titles did stoke city win with all their physicality.

Even the almighty physical ATM with Gabi, Godin M.suarez, turan and so only won the la liga once, due one useless ref’s error


Or do we even talk about juvetus team(that narrowly escaped Madrid) with all the physicality of machisio, pogba, tevez, Vidal......, but ended up being schooled by iniesta the m.o.t.m that day

joviegghead:


The Barça of 2015 wasn't as powerful as 2010/2011.
The power of 2015 Barça was the MSN trio,the best trio ever. The friendship and cooperation of Messi, Neymar and Suarez was just insane. Iniesta, Alba and Rakitic helped

But the power of 2010/2011 or Guardiola's Barça was the whole team + Tiki Taka(beautiful football at Its peak). That was the Barça that will have over 70% ball possession whether home or away. That same Barça had the highest number of pass. They would pass around the opponent into the net. They made life miserable for teams. it got to a point that football fans sometimes complained of their overwhelming dominance.

I'm still yet to see a team as dominant as that team.

Heynckes Bayern came pretty close but just for a season.

I see someone is mischievously trying to twist the narrative.

There are skilful players who are actually very athletic and physical.
They do exist!

We are not sacrificing skilfulness on the altar of athleticism and physicality.

That's why we talked about a good blend of all.

And I repeat for emphasis THERE WOULD BE EXCEPTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME.

If you goan being very skilful players wey nor get bone for body sorry for you.

If you goan being athletic and rugby style players looking like undertakers wey nor get ball sense sorry for you too.

Dembele out?

tesppidd:
I see someone is mischievously trying to twist the narrative.

There are skilful players who are actually very athletic and physical.
They do exist!

We are not sacrificing skilfulness on the altar of athleticism and physicality.

That's why we talked about a good blend of all.

And I repeat for emphasis THERE WOULD BE EXCEPTIONS FROM TIME TO TIME.

If you goan being very skilful players wey nor get bone for body sorry for you.

If you goan being athletic and rugby style players looking like undertakers wey nor get ball sense sorry for you too.

You should have just used Adama Traore as an example of athletic but lacking-ball-sense type of player.
However, the reason this 'being physical' argument doesn't fly is because, there already exist an achieved minimum level of physicality needed to thrive in top football in these top teams.

Barça, man city, Madrid and the likes aren't known for tilting towards the physical type of play. Still, they dominate. Why? Though they're not overly physical, they've achieved a required level of physical fitness to complement to arrays of talents in the teams.

The point is Skill, Talent and Intelligence will always rule.
Any extra workload for physicality/physical fitness na jara.
If you meet team wey sabi tricks, skills, shoot and all the necessary ingredients, na wiping go be the end result.

Dembele loan deal to Manu is off

Honestly, is there something Koeman sees in Depay that I'm missing?

Is it not the same Depay that flopped in Man Utd...same one that is nothing special...
I watched him in Man Utd and I pitied man Utd for having a player like Depay...I saw him as a waste...but somehow Koeman rates him?

Is it that I'm not seeing something Koeman sees or what?

Baddestguyp:
Honestly, is there something Koeman sees in Depay that I'm missing?

Is it not the same Depay that flopped in Man Utd...same one that is nothing special...
I watched him in Man Utd and I pitied man Utd for having a player like Depay...I saw him as a waste...but somehow Koeman rates him?

Is it that I'm not seeing something Koeman sees or what?

At Man Utd? Since?

Have you watched any of his games at Lyon?

Honestly, Man Utd and van gaal didnt suit him. same with Alexis.

Watch his recent games, and I bet you'll fling Griezmann away.

BTW, Riqui Puig is getting his first team number after transfer closes.

Who knows, perhaps after the average performance of De Jong and Busi, Koeman is having a rethink

Didier Deschamps (France national team manager): "Antoine told [Koeman] that he did not understand why he did not play in a central position." [via bein]

After Koeman made mouth

Depay won't join Barcelona because Dembélé stays. García is still possible, but complicated. [md]

Is that the reason for the unfair treatment towards Dembele

joviegghead:
Depay won't join Barcelona because Dembélé stays. García is still possible, but complicated. [md]

Is that the reason for the unfair treatment towards Dembele

Me wey I Don dey suspect since.

Rafinha will join PSG for three million euros in variables. Barça will also reserve 35% of a possible future sale. [cat radio]

Sad, a skillful AM but surplus. Barça never really tried him. I wish him success.

joviegghead:
Rafinha will join PSG for three million euros in variables. Barça will also reserve 35% of a possible future sale. [cat radio]

Sad, a skillful AM but surplus. Barça never really tried him. I wish him success.

Wow


I’m so happy for him, I really hope he does wonders there

joviegghead:
Didier Deschamps (France national team manager): "Antoine told [Koeman] that he did not understand why he did not play in a central position." [via bein]

After Koeman made mouth

So the fact that he doesn’t play through the center means he can’t score from two 1-on-1 chances yesterday.


This greizmann is just stupid

Deschamps: "For me, Griezmann is still more effective when he is in the heart of the game, when he is able to touch the ball a lot. In that position, he has the possibility to come and help in the midfield too."

Deschamps: "Antoine never complains, but to give his full potential it's always better when a player is in his best position."


Deschamps is really fighting for Griezmann o. They'll(griezou and Deschamps) be hoping Koeman listens to him.

Barcelona have informed Lyon saying they won't sign Depay. [rac1]


See Wetin Dembele don cause o

joviegghead:


The Barça of 2015 wasn't as powerful as 2010/2011.
The power of 2015 Barça was the MSN trio,the best trio ever. The friendship and cooperation of Messi, Neymar and Suarez was just insane. Iniesta, Alba and Rakitic helped

But the power of 2010/2011 or Guardiola's Barça was the whole team + Tiki Taka(beautiful football at Its peak). That was the Barça that will have over 70% ball possession whether home or away. That same Barça had the highest number of pass. They would pass around the opponent into the net. They made life miserable for teams. it got to a point that football fans sometimes complained of their overwhelming dominance.

I'm still yet to see a team as dominant as that team.

These guys don forget na. That berbabeu 5-0 thrashing against a very physical Madrid side that boasted Lass, Pepe, Ramos, we passed and passed to the point CR7 even got tired of marking and started complaining to his teammates. We bin dey ball, as in, I no fit even explain am. It was art and we really coloured football then.

Moura7:


These guys don forget na. That berbabeu 5-0 thrashing against a very physical Madrid side that boasted Lass, Pepe, Ramos, we passed and passed to the point CR7 even got tired of marking and started complaining to his teammates. We bin dey ball, as in, I no fit even explain am. It was art and we really coloured football then.

Anytime we faced Madrid, they were always frustrated. Na Messi suffer sha. They vented their frustration on him, while he revenged by scoring

But that 5-0 thrashing was something else. The complete dominance was totally unexpected. It was like Madrid were school boys still learning against pros.

haymekus:


So the fact that he doesn’t play through the center means he can’t score from two 1-on-1 chances yesterday.


This greizmann is just stupid

Honestly Griezmann is running out of excuses.

joviegghead:




Anytime we faced Madrid, they were always frustrated. Na Messi suffer sha. They vented their frustration on him, while he revenged by scoring

But that 5-0 thrashing was something else. The complete dominance was totally unexpected. It was like Madrid were school boys still learning against pros.

Asin eh......I don't know what Pep did to that team, I swear. I see people talking about Inter and Atletico. it wasn't any physicality that helped them, they were just tactically obedient in their defense. Every resilient in standing thier ground in defence, that was how they defeated us. Esp that Lucio and Maicon combo, try and score na

joviegghead:

At Man Utd? Since?

Have you watched any of his games at Lyon?

Honestly, Man Utd and van gaal didnt suit him. same with Alexis.

Watch his recent games, and I bet you'll fling Griezmann away.

Depay is a player fit for small teams...he doesn't seem like he can perform at big clubs

Moura7:


Asin eh......I don't know what Pep did to that team, I swear. I see people talking about Inter and Atletico. it wasn't any physicality that helped them, they were just tactically obedient in their defense. Every resilient in standing thier ground in defence, that was how they defeated us. Esp that Lucio and Maicon combo, try and score na

Dude you forgot Julio Caesar, one of the most underrated goalkeeper if you ask me. that year, he was just a beast, No to forget the almighty creator snijdner, d.milito that could score with his eyes closed, and also etoo

As Depay isn't coming to Barca again(according to Fabrizio) can the agenda that Koeman is nepotistic end?

Baddestguyp:
Depay is a player fit for small teams...he doesn't seem like he can perform at big clubs

Depay or Greizman, pick one Mtchw

joviegghead:


The Barça of 2015 wasn't as powerful as 2010/2011.
The power of 2015 Barça was the MSN trio,the best trio ever. The friendship and cooperation of Messi, Neymar and Suarez was just insane. Iniesta, Alba and Rakitic helped

But the power of 2010/2011 or Guardiola's Barça was the whole team + Tiki Taka(beautiful football at Its peak). That was the Barça that will have over 70% ball possession whether home or away. That same Barça had the highest number of pass. They would pass around the opponent into the net. They made life miserable for teams. it got to a point that football fans sometimes complained of their overwhelming dominance.

I'm still yet to see a team as dominant as that team.

As dominating as that Barca was, they didn't win UCL back to back, Madrid has. With a team of serious physicality... So I don't know how you want to push this agenda. And it's not like that 2011 Barca was that weak, Xavi covered so much ground per game that's peak of physical fitness, Dani Alves ran like a high octane engine. Puyol was extremely physical and strong. Messi was damn strong too. No matter how much you tried, you couldn't push him off the ball unless he was fouled. Eto was strong and fast. Eto was very physical sef. Busquets was very intelligent but was also physical. He was strong in the air and could win tackles while screening the defence.