komekn:


First of all that's not the issue but the blatant double standard.

For how many years have we been getting clearance for Ademola, Ovie etc

But we got clearance for Akpoguma who rejected NIGERIA OUTRIGHTLY in a matter of weeks.

On the other hand there are 100 times more players of Nigerian origin in the UK than Germany.

Ademola turned us down when he thought he'd be next Dele Alli. After some underwhelming performance in training and some match played, he left for Leipzig with same mentality.

Boom! His form drop drastically he remembered SE. I'm happy he joined Fulham maybe he can resurrect his dieing career.

Seems Rohr want Ovie to do more!


Modified:

It's not about having 10000 eligible player. Of the thousands, how many good ones would entertain the idea of playing for us?

Akpoguma is starting in one of top 5 teams in Germany. Celebrate man, it's a beautiful something

Clint02:
An insult to Germany or who?

No the first sentence

Utonwanne:


Komekn always roll out poor borough boys in lower tier for consideration.

Bros,make we no Dy beat the bush around abeg..
Everybody knows that the Germans are better footballers than the English..
I've said it serveral times, English football is overrated!
Even if Rohr isn't German,he won't ingnore the likes of Akpoguma,Udokhai and Tonnoarigha for some English players who are only good for championship clubs....
I'm really hoping that Marvin Park gets it going in Spain...
We need to take a break from fielding mediocore English boys into our national team..
Because we were a British colony doesn't make us resigned to using British born players only in our national team....
If the best British players can't improve their national team,what's the assurance that the bang average ones will improve our national team??

komekn:


He is already at Fulham, that's old news.

You for calm down scroll down

[quote author=komekn post=94654609]

By what unit of measurement do you conclude Iorfa is #### according to you. And if he is #### what then is Awaziem, Omeruo, Akpoguma and Balogun❓

Can l ask upon what have you anchored your opinion upon with regards to English Nigerian origin players.

Association in person plus interaction with Nigerian origin players in England and so you must therefore reside in England to be so strongly convinced.

Finally, has Akpoguma shown more commitment than Iorfa, Ademola, Tosin, Ovie ❓ ❓







ABEG oga

how many of those player (English born) are playing in the premier league

caus for the record, Akpoguma is playing for German bundesliga

secondly
is he not a Nigerian?

Subzero047:


If forgiveness does not find it it is not there

That's very sure ...

Danielnino00:


Bros,make we no Dy beat the bush around abeg..
Everybody knows that the Germans are better footballers than the English..
I've said it serveral times, English football is overrated!
Even if Rohr isn't German,he won't ingnore the likes of Akpoguma,Udokhai and Tonnoarigha for some English players who are only good for championship clubs....
I'm really hoping that Marvin Park gets it going in Spain...
We need to take a break from fielding mediocore English boys into our national team..
Because we were a British colony doesn't make us resigned to using British born players only in our national team....
If the best British players can't improve their national team,what's the assurance that the bang average ones will improve our national team??

I get you bro. We can only choose the best.

Any borough boy that failed to meet the standard should continue snapping pics with our beautiful jersey.

Karlovich:
in your first paragraph, if Iorfa was better than them, then what is he doing in the championship? Akpoguma and Balogun play at a higher level than him and most importantly they are all Nigerian internationals at the moment.
In your last paragraph, I'm guessing you also associated with Tammy, Agbonlahor, Tomori, Nedum Onuoha, Carlton Cole, John Salako, John Fashanu, Chris Armstrong, Chris Iwelumo, Ugo Ehiogu (RIP), Ross Barkley, Dele Alli and Now Saka. They are all of Nigerian origin. Please can you tell me how many of them represented Nigeria

Firstly individual performance matters more than the league ekong was good in Italy now he is championship with Watford can we say because he is in championship now are we free to undermine his ability hell no!! Iorfa has been bossing the championship for quite a while now even tosin that haven't achieved half of his achievement is in Premier how much more iorfa we all know iorfa should be in wolves if not for the Portuguese takeover of the club iorfa is a very good defender quote me anywhere

Then my last point I might know the likes of cola fashanu et al but the Alli Barkley and Saka shouldnt be mention we all know what Alli father did to him he was raised by a white folk his father have already given a bad image about Nigeria and even when he was having tough time at MK Don the Country and the fans wasn't there to encourage or motivate so am not surprised he didn't turn out for us
Barkley have a Naija grandparent I believe he doesnt know he is a naija dude he has spent most of his entire life in Jand he even looks like an English man so what do you expect and lastly saka from a broken heart am saying this saka is young dude very proud of his naija origin he has made this known severally from his interviews I had a chance of speaking with one of his teammates in arsenal youth team he said they all saka naija guy from what I heard he is always proud of his naija origin his heart is with England and we have to respect him like we all respect Alaba.

Utonwanne:



Ademola turned us down when he thought he'd be next Dele Alli. After some underwhelming performance in training and some match played, he left for Leipzig with same mentality.

Boom! His form drop drastically he remembered SE. I'm happy he joined Fulham maybe he can resurrect his dieing career.

Seems Rohr want Ovie to do more!


Modified:

It's not about having 10000 eligible player. Of the thousands, how many good ones would entertain the idea of playing for us?

Akpoguma is starting in one of top 5 teams in Germany. Celebrate man, it's a beautiful something

See bro most of these foreign bred are kinda the same
Look man has made his intentions known that Nigeria will always be a second option to him same way the likes of udokhai, torun and apkoguma see Nigeria as a second fiddle
Or you think if akoguma is called by Germany tomorrow he won't honor their invitation

komekn:


You are deviating from the core issue.

Akpoguma said along with his father for several years I DONT WANT TO PLAY FOR NIGERIA. I want to play for Germany.

Akpoguma has declared for Nigeria and within weeks he is FIFA cleared.

DOUBLE STANDARD

Who is better is open to debate but thats not the issue. But the unguarded broad daylight FAVORITISM.

Please don't confuse the discourse with other issues.

And if anybody doesn't find issue with that it's HYPOCRISY.

I don't know when his clearance started but even if it's 3 weeks, it's understandable because he's good enough to start for us.

We can't be wasting our resources and time on someone that is not clearly better that what we already have. It's just a common sense!

Iorfa, Tosin, Lookman all turned us down for England but none was invited for obvious reasons - not being good enough

Jordan Aiybe and Solanke said NO to us but has not been invited by England because they are of poor quality. If reverse has been the case, you would have held us by the throat

West Brom signed nobody on deadline day

Favorites to go down

smartsmith0907:


Firstly individual performance matters more than the league ekong was good in Italy now he is championship with Watford can we say because he is in championship now are we free to undermine his ability hell no!! Iorfa has been bossing the championship for quite a while now even tosin that haven't achieved half of his achievement is in Premier how much more iorfa we all know iorfa should be in wolves if not for the Portuguese takeover of the club iorfa is a very good defender quote me anywhere

Then my last point I might know the likes of cola fashanu et al but the Alli Barkley and Saka shouldnt be mention we all know what Alli father did to him he was raised by a white folk his father have already given a bad image about Nigeria and even when he was having tough time at MK Don the Country and the fans wasn't there to encourage or motivate so am not surprised he didn't turn out for us
Barkley have a Naija grandparent I believe he doesnt know he is a naija dude he has spent most of his entire life in Jand he even looks like an English man so what do you expect and lastly saka from a broken heart am saying this saka is young dude very proud of his naija origin he has made this known severally from his interviews I had a chance of speaking with one of his teammates in arsenal youth team he said they all saka naija guy from what I heard he is always proud of his naija origin his heart is with England and we have to respect him like we all respect Alaba.

With respect to Iorfa, you said he has been bossing the championship and is even better than Tosin, abeg why is he still in the championship?
He has been a Wolves players for like 7 years now,yet all his senior team appearance have come in the championship and league one...

Subzero047:
West Brom signed nobody on deadline day

Favorites to go down

Very likely..
They have the worst squad in the league...
And their coach is no genius....

ChrisKels:


Dude be desperately seeking cheap attention and crying all the time

Only him know wetin be his problem when it comes to English born players

smartsmith0907:


Firstly individual performance matters more than the league ekong was good in Italy now he is championship with Watford can we say because he is in championship now are we free to undermine his ability hell no!! Iorfa has been bossing the championship for quite a while now even tosin that haven't achieved half of his achievement is in Premier how much more iorfa we all know iorfa should be in wolves if not for the Portuguese takeover of the club iorfa is a very good defender quote me anywhere

Then my last point I might know the likes of cola fashanu et al but the Alli Barkley and Saka shouldnt be mention we all know what Alli father did to him he was raised by a white folk his father have already given a bad image about Nigeria and even when he was having tough time at MK Don the Country and the fans wasn't there to encourage or motivate so am not surprised he didn't turn out for us
Barkley have a Naija grandparent I believe he doesnt know he is a naija dude he has spent most of his entire life in Jand he even looks like an English man so what do you expect and lastly saka from a broken heart am saying this saka is young dude very proud of his naija origin he has made this known severally from his interviews I had a chance of speaking with one of his teammates in arsenal youth team he said they all saka naija guy from what I heard he is always proud of his naija origin his heart is with England and we have to respect him like we all respect Alaba.

So the Portuguese takeover has kept Iorfa in the Championship for close to four seasons in a row, Ok I believe you.
Regarding the other players, of course I respect their decision to represent other nations, but Komekn is putting it in such a way as though Nigerian coaches don't reach out the players, even the Iorfa in question trained with the England senior team at some point.

Utonwanne:


Only him know wetin be his problem when it comes to English born players

I think Komekn carries with him,the same air of arrogance and self importance most of these English sports journalists are known for..
They hype their players,clubs and leagues to the heaven all the time!..
Like they are the best in the world..

Meanwhile,we know how average they are...

Danielnino00:


Very likely..
They have the worst squad in the league...
And their coach is no genius....

Their coach is hell bent on playing his old players than the new players they bought

Danielnino00:


With respect to Iorfa, you said he has been bossing the championship and is even better than Tosin, abeg why is he still in the championship?
He has been a Wolves players for like 7 years now,yet all his senior team appearance have come in the championship and league one...

My brother you can't undermine his ability coz he is playing for championship
Can we say because look man is playing in Fulham is better than benhrama hell no as a matter of fact benhrama can break into Big 5 clubs in England yet he is in championship my Broda most times your agent influence matters alot No long caps tosin has a very good agent to be able to move to Fulham on transfer deadline I can say boldly iorfa has a bad agent common maja moved from league one ( Sunderland) to ligue one ( Bordeaux) how much more iorfa that has been one of the best defenders in championship can't move to a EPL
Lastly I rate iorfa more than Soares in wolves my broda quote me anywhere Iorfa can make wolves team he is that good
No caps

smartsmith0907:


See bro most of these foreign bred are kinda the same
Look man has made his intentions known that Nigeria will always be a second option to him same way the likes of udokhai, torun and apkoguma see Nigeria as a second fiddle
Or you think if akoguma is called by Germany tomorrow he won't honor their invitation

Yes they are all same. We are second option but if Ansu Fati and Nketiah were to be of Nigerian decent.

In February, Nketiah said he would be open to play for us and in April, Fati made same declaration.

Whose paperwork would you make a priority?

smartsmith0907:


My brother you can't undermine his ability coz he is playing for championship
Can we say because look man is playing in Fulham is better than benhrama hell no as a matter of fact benhrama can break into Big 5 clubs in England yet he is in championship my Broda most times your agent influence matters alot No long caps tosin has a very good agent to be able to move to Fulham on transfer deadline I can say boldly iorfa has a bad agent common maja moved from league one ( Sunderland) to ligue one ( Bordeaux) how much more iorfa that has been one of the best defenders in championship can't move to a EPL
Lastly I rate iorfa more than Soares in wolves my broda quote me anywhere Iorfa can make wolves team he is that good
No caps

Who are the Big five?

Benharama won't start Everton!

smartsmith0907:


My brother you can't undermine his ability coz he is playing for championship
Can we say because look man is playing in Fulham is better than benhrama hell no as a matter of fact benhrama can break into Big 5 clubs in England yet he is in championship my Broda most times your agent influence matters alot No long caps tosin has a very good agent to be able to move to Fulham on transfer deadline I can say boldly iorfa has a bad agent common maja moved from league one ( Sunderland) to ligue one ( Bordeaux) how much more iorfa that has been one of the best defenders in championship can't move to a EPL
Lastly I rate iorfa more than Soares in wolves my broda quote me anywhere Iorfa can make wolves team he is that good
No caps

But Iorfa hasn't declared for Nigeria at this point in time.

smartsmith0907:


My brother you can't undermine his ability coz he is playing for championship
Can we say because look man is playing in Fulham is better than benhrama hell no as a matter of fact benhrama can break into Big 5 clubs in England yet he is in championship my Broda most times your agent influence matters alot No long caps tosin has a very good agent to be able to move to Fulham on transfer deadline I can say boldly iorfa has a bad agent common maja moved from league one ( Sunderland) to ligue one ( Bordeaux) how much more iorfa that has been one of the best defenders in championship can't move to a EPL
Lastly I rate iorfa more than Soares in wolves my broda quote me anywhere Iorfa can make wolves team he is that good
No caps

Benharama hasn't spend his entire career in the championship like Iorfa.... He has played in the ligue1 too..
I don't think Iorfa will have an agent so bad that he won't get a move to at least a bottom table EPL team...
And all these talks of politics at Wolves is nonsense... Wolves are at the best level ever since the premier league era! .. it's all thanks to Nuno and Jorge Mendes who have worked hard to transform the club... I'm very sure that wolves fans themselves aren't complaining of having so many Portuguese players in their squad as long as they are getting good results..
Iorfa should move!
He is in his prime already ..

This komekn na character sha...

So, Players that are good enough for Sheffield Wednesday, Man City loan networks and lower leagues are the ones we should cap over players actively playing in the German bundesliga.

Nothing wey Musa no go see for gate

this akpoguma issue is annoying.
i don't even have an issue with the supersonic FIFA clearance.
buy my concern is, he wasn't in the list neither was he on standby.
they said he came to familiarize with the squad, then boom my guy Don enter team list.
typical Nigeria politicians everywhere.

smartsmith0907:


My brother you can't undermine his ability coz he is playing for championship
Can we say because look man is playing in Fulham is better than benhrama hell no as a matter of fact benhrama can break into Big 5 clubs in England yet he is in championship my Broda most times your agent influence matters alot No long caps tosin has a very good agent to be able to move to Fulham on transfer deadline I can say boldly iorfa has a bad agent common maja moved from league one ( Sunderland) to ligue one ( Bordeaux) how much more iorfa that has been one of the best defenders in championship can't move to a EPL
Lastly I rate iorfa more than Soares in wolves my broda quote me anywhere Iorfa can make wolves team he is that good
No caps

He was questioning Onyeka's ability because he has been at Midttjyland first team for just 2 years+

Iorfa has been switching championship and League one for 7 years, 7 good years. Does that mean all top tier teams are too blind so the supposedly best defender?

It simply indicate that dude ain't good enough.

Karlovich:
So the Portuguese takeover has kept Iorfa in the Championship for close to four seasons in a row, Ok I believe you.
Regarding the other players, of course I respect their decision to represent other nations, but Komekn is putting it in such a way as though Nigerian coaches don't reach out the players, even the Iorfa in question trained with the England senior team at some point.

There is a lot of players rohr have on his list I have a chat with akatugba recently these players iorfa ejaria look man are on their watch common Nigeria have many players there are thousands of player the video analyst of rohr is watching he is still discovering more in the academy; Miguel ,odubeko et al there are alot even the likes of small players like chukwuibike in Lierfering in on his watch how much ejaria, iorfa et al these will all be invited thats if they continue in their form I can boldly assure you
And to komekn FIFA clearance for England players takes up to a year quote me anywhere.

Subzero047:
I'm still thinking this is a veiled insult

He was talking about midfielders in the squad

Christology:
this akpoguma issue is annoying.
i don't even have an issue with the supersonic FIFA clearance.
buy my concern is, he wasn't in the list neither was he on standby.
they said he came to familiarize with the squad, then boom my guy Don enter team list.
typical Nigeria politicians everywhere.

Etobo pulled out, we needed some to fill the void

Christology:
this akpoguma issue is annoying.
i don't even have an issue with the supersonic FIFA clearance.
buy my concern is, he wasn't in the list neither was he on standby.
they said he came to familiarize with the squad, then boom my guy Don enter team list.
typical Nigeria politicians everywhere.

I'll rather have a Kevin playing actively in the bundesliga being catapulted into the team than a Viv Otabor playing in Bulgaria.

At least they are catapulting a better player that will add to the team improvement, and not a Bulgarian league player who is not better than Oladapo in Enyimba

timay:


I'll rather have a Kevin playing actively in the bundesliga being catapulted into the team than a Viv Otabor playing in Bulgaria.

At least they are catapulting a better player that will add to the team improvement, and not a Bulgarian league player who is not better than Oladapo in Enyimba

bro otabor is now in England

BascoVanVeli:



He was talking about midfielders in the squad

Yea I know but there are so many words to represent it

Nigeria has always been the last hope of d common man.