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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Nobody: 9:17am On Oct 08, 2020
TechyMm0:


Trump gave no sanction over killing of Nigerian Christians , he barely spoke about during Buhari's visit, and few hours later he sold $350 million USD worth of weapons and Tucano planes so that the killing can continue while he made money like a business man


.
. You haven't been following the news lately....

Trump after visiting buhari made it clear to secret service never to even bring him such a lifeless person again to his office
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 9:17am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


Ok so you were lying when you posted the previous Acts 22:4 quote?

When a lawyer prosecutes a criminal and earns the criminal a death sentence, you never say the lawyer killed the criminal. Except of course you are a revisionist with an agenda.

So now all translations of the Bible that don't agree with the one you have are false?? Even though the translation you have also agrees with the others.

grin grin cheesy I laugh.

Good thing you mentioned lawyers. Cause if you knew anything about arguments in a court case you would know you just committed Sophism.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by hush15: 9:18am On Oct 08, 2020
SegFault:

Until they put anti immigrant laws that will prevent you from entering America. Sha wetin concern me Biden and Trump are both politicians but I prefer Biden.

Your prerogative bro. Am an African who knows little about these two honestly but my instincts have never failed.

With all the lawlessness I see going on in the States today, my instincts picks Trump over Biden. His methods may not be a favourite but with a little more cooperativeness from its citizens, America will not go astray but begin to trace their steps back. That nation is falling fast and the reason is lack of discipline. Everybody is over experiencing freedom.

Just my opinion by the way. You also entitled to yours
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Nobody: 9:22am On Oct 08, 2020
hush15:


Your prerogative bro. Am an African who knows little about these two honestly but my instincts have never failed.

With all the lawlessness I see going on in the States today, my instincts picks Trump over Biden. His methods may not be a favourite but with a little more cooperativeness from its citizens, America will not go astray but begin to trace their steps back. That nation is falling fast and the reason is lack of discipline. Everybody is over experiencing freedom.

Just my opinion by the way. You also entitled to yours
Yah, good to know that, but for the fact that Trump could not deny the white supremacy shades thrown at him is a minus for me. Anyhow any who that is America's business at least now we know that the place ain't worth the hype, there are tons of better countries in Europe.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 9:23am On Oct 08, 2020
Image123:


Duh, if i missed it, why would i say that you missed it? THINK.

Why should you not care to address the main point he was passing across? Is that not the real troll, snake man reed?

So he made more than one point but according to you I must address the one you want me to address. LoLz. Report me to Seun for not addressing your favoured point. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 9:25am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


Ok so you were lying when you posted the previous Acts 22:4 quote?

When a lawyer prosecutes a criminal and earns the criminal a death sentence, you never say the lawyer killed the criminal. Except of course you are a revisionist with an agenda.

Also let me educate you small on some Jewish history.

Paul was a Pharisee. But a high ranking Pharisee who was also of a group called the zealots.

A particular group of leaders at that time were responsible for passing judgements and giving approval if someone should be killed after breaking a law. They were known as the Sanhedrin. He was one who also had the authority giving to him by the Sanhedrin at that time.

That is why this verse exists.

"...Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.’..."

There are more Jewish articles online to educate yourself. You don't need to feel ego bruised and call white , black just to feel you didn't lose an argument.

Off I go.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by hush15: 9:25am On Oct 08, 2020
SegFault:

Yah, good to know that, but for the fact that Trump could not deny the white supremacy shades thrown at him is a minus for me. Anyhow any who that is America's business at least now we know that the place ain't worth the hype, there are tons of better countries in Europe.
Tons o. If you know, you know.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Openbusiness: 9:25am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


1 - Even you yourself know it's a big fat lie. The Catholic church makes statues for religious purposes and not to worship the statues which brings me to question number 2

2 - Check your Bible (that was compiled by the same Catholic church) in the book of Ex 25: 18-20 and tell me what that statue was used for........

It's funny how Pentecostals that just started a few years ago think they are wiser than a church that is the beginning of Christianity itself, baffles me sha
Excuse me, please, define "religious purposes" and tell us what those purposes involve. Does it include praying to statues, or reverencing statues, or making statues (like you said) or owning statues and using statues for personal prayers? My Bible WAS compiled by the Catholic Church, but my Bible WAS NOT compiled by the Roman Catholic church. There's a critically big difference, and the Catholic Church (the entire body of Christ) IS NOT THE SAME as the Roman Catholic Church. You said you make statues for religous purposes. The Catholic Church of Christ doesn't make statues or believe in statues or pray to statues. That is the definition of Idolatry.

And seriously, shocked like seriously, you actually want to equate the Ark of the Covenant, inside where the very stone tablets of 10 Commandments that God himself wrote and gave to Moses were kept? The Ark of the Covenant that was inside the Holy of Holies and nobody could approach, see or touch and survive? The Ark of the Covenant that even the Judaism High Priest had to perform rituals and sacrifices before he could approach or have his priesthood carry it with poles, and if he as much as made a single mistake, he would die? That's what you want to compare with the statues and images of Mary that you guys pray to reverence and carry about and keep in your homes, pockets etc as a personal effect? You're funny oh. This statement alone shows your understanding of the Bible is highly questionable.

✓ The Ark of the Covenant IS NOT a statue or image of worship.
✓ The Ark of the Covenant was kept away from the public and priests, only the high Priest could go near it and
✓ The Ark of the Covenant could not be seen, touched or handled, otherwise it was sudden death. It was always COVERED inside the innermost and holiest part of the temple called the Holy of Holies, that was demarcated from other places. None of the priesthood could see, touch or approach it or go into the Holy of Holies. And only the High Priest could go in ONCE A YEAR on the day of atonement to do ritual for the forgiveness of sins for the Israelites and Judaism believers.
✓ The Ark of the Covenant was a physical seat or a stool (the kind found with the Royals or Kings, like the seat of a King). So the Ark of the Covenant was God's seat within the nation of Israel, WHY, because He was their true King. And as long as they had the Ark of the Covenant with them, it was God's chosen way to communicate to them that He was physically present in their midst.

BUT
✓ the statue and images of Mary is an idol, it is a carving that you worship, reverence and pray to, and the statues are personal to you and handled by you and carried around by you or erected in your worship centers that you see, touch and pay obeisance to and pray to.

So please and please don't ever compare that to be Ark of the Covenant. That would be the biggest lie in the world and falsification to the Bible.

Exodus 20
1 And God spoke all these words:
2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 "You shall have no other gods before [1] me.
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them
; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
6 but showing love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments.

And point of correction, the Roman Catholics are not the "beginners" of Christianity, neither are you the custodians of Christianity like you try to appear to the world. Your Pope is not the Pope of Christianity (or the Catholic Church of Christianity). Your Pope is only the Pope of the Roman Catholics and the Roman Catholic Church, which is good, and I'm not against that, but i'm only setting the records straight. This matter is a case of every mallam to his kettle, I believe in religous freedom and you can practice your beliefs anyway you want. I don't have a single problem with that.

Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Lawsimon(m): 9:26am On Oct 08, 2020
A Pope who does not even know or understand what born again (the basis of Christianity) is, now calling another a hypocrite.

Has the Pope ever talk about Christ?
How many people has the Pope led to accept Christ and be born again?

Does he think Christianity is about paganism and practicing Roman religion?

A Pope who promotes gay which the scriptures in Romans chapter 1 kicks again, is he a Christian?

Abeg, abeg, abeg, no make me vex this morning o.

Go and worship your Mary and leave Trump alone.

He may not be a Christian, but we believe God is using him as an end time soldier.

Read your Bible and check unbelievers in the positions of authority God used to accomplish His purpose on Earth.

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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by drlateef: 9:33am On Oct 08, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:

Can you say it without blinking that buhari is a terrorist?



We are talking about the Pope and Donald Trump, not Buhari. Train your mind to concentrate on issues.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by DollarBuddy: 9:33am On Oct 08, 2020
HappyPagan:

Do better.. embarrassing so far...seems you just wanted attention.. I'm sure you are above that. Prove you had a valuable education...tell me something insightful.

Seems I'm getting under your skin bro. I'm sorry about that but you should also learn to watch what you post about Christianity.

As a Pagan, you don't know jerk about it. So stare off bro.

Good morning dear. I'm done talking.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by nkemoma(m): 9:35am On Oct 08, 2020
The Pope is not a true Christian... Yea and his hoards are imitation
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by blowjohn(m): 9:35am On Oct 08, 2020
This pope sounds suspicious
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by BoboNogoDie: 9:36am On Oct 08, 2020
Anago55:
Dry joke
Wet nonsense
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Image123(m): 9:36am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


So he made more than one point but according to you I must address the one you want me to address. LoLz. Report me to Seun for not addressing your favoured point. Bwahahahahaha!

That was the only point he made. He was trying to back it up with your fixation. You do love chasing shadows.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by HappyPagan: 9:38am On Oct 08, 2020
DollarBuddy:


Seems I'm getting under your skin bro.
I see that education still ain't worth shit. grin grin
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ipinuoluwa96184: 9:39am On Oct 08, 2020
:Can you say it without blinking that buhari is a mak are talking about the Pope and Donald Trump, not Buhari. Train your thinking to concentrate on matters.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ALLFATHER14: 9:39am On Oct 08, 2020
InvertedHammer:
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Who is a Christian?

I guess the Catholic priests that slept with young boys are more christian than Trump. What did the church do on the weighty accusations? They transferred them to different parishes to cover the crime while they continued with their paedophilia. Now the church is stuck paying millions of dollars in lawsuits.

/

Lol...... hypocrites. When your pastors and deaconess were putting fire in their maid private parts, or when your pastors dey give choir mistress lambs you will not talk ó. Bigot. No religious organization is perfect. and in the Catholic church any priest caught doing sh*t is excommunicated and charged to court it's standard procedure, something your church doesn't have
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by blowjohn(m): 9:43am On Oct 08, 2020
TechyMm0:


In a predominantly Christian country like US chances of your appointee been a Christian is 90% so that's not a problem, and the so called Christian Policy he is passing like the Anti Abortion executive bill is just one of his ruse to further clown around as if he cares about Christians and Republican


Contrast that with the abortion legalisation and gay legalisation that Obama allowed just to get votes too.


Who is more morally upright?
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 9:49am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


So now all translations of the Bible that don't agree with the one you have are false?? Even though the translation you have also agrees with the others.

grin grin cheesy I laugh.

Good thing you mentioned lawyers. Cause if you knew anything about arguments in a court case you would know you just committed Sophism.

I asked you what translation, you showed a bunch of translations none of which matches your purported quote of Acts 22:4. Leads me to conclude you wanted to be misleading.

Well then glad you acknowledge that the example is a wise one.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by UKBobo(m): 9:50am On Oct 08, 2020
100% fact walahi!

Nigerrians that like Trump have low self-esteem and are self-hating.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 9:51am On Oct 08, 2020
Image123:


That was the only point he made. He was trying to back it up with your fixation. You do love chasing shadows.

Bwahahahahaha! Now you are backtracking. LMFAO!

Tell Seun I am chasing shadows in his forum. LMFAO!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 9:53am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


Also let me educate you small on some Jewish history.

Paul was a Pharisee. But a high ranking Pharisee who was also of a group called the zealots.

A particular group of leaders at that time were responsible for passing judgements and giving approval if someone should be killed after breaking a law. They were known as the Sanhedrin. He was one who also had the authority giving to him by the Sanhedrin at that time.

That is why this verse exists.

"...Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.’..."

There are more Jewish articles online to educate yourself. You don't need to feel ego bruised and call white , black just to feel you didn't lose an argument.

Off I go.

Pointless submission. LoL
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 9:54am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


I asked you what translation, you showed a bunch of translations none of which matches your purported quote of Acts 22:4. Leads me to conclude you wanted to be misleading.

Well then glad you acknowledge that the example is a wise one.

It is well.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 9:55am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


Pointless submission. LoL


You didn't prove why it is pointless. You just said it is pointless.

So why should all who read your statement believe you?

This makes me think you have ran out of ideas.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Ihatemumu: 9:58am On Oct 08, 2020
IneedSugarMumy1:
You're not in position to determine that sir





Our generation and the next are getting smarter,
If this was said in the past, almost everybody will believe the Pope instantly cause he is a Pope
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by uuzba(m): 9:58am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


Also let me educate you small on some Jewish history.

Paul was a Pharisee. But a high ranking Pharisee who was also of a group called the zealots.

A particular group of leaders at that time were responsible for passing judgements and giving approval if someone should be killed after breaking a law. They were known as the Sanhedrin. He was one who also had the authority giving to him by the Sanhedrin at that time.

That is why this verse exists.

"...Stephen was shed, I stood there giving my approval and guarding the clothes of those who were killing him.’..."

There are more Jewish articles online to educate yourself. You don't need to feel ego bruised and call white , black just to feel you didn't lose an argument.

Off I go.
A Christian is somebody who follows Jesus Chirst.
Starting with Baptism a sign to show that you are now a member or the family of Jesus Christ.
-
Whatever the past of any of the apostles and disciples, they were all baptised and followed Jesus Christ.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by rickyrex(m): 9:58am On Oct 08, 2020
Karlovich:
Trump 2020, the Pope should face the Vatican and the catholic church.
this is one of the blind problem we face as a nation. A man of God who pay tax and carryout every necessary obligation set out by government should have no say about what is happening in his country. Even if the Pope is not from American, he still has every right to correct any leader going wrong. Don't make it look like politicians will not die and be judged by God
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Grandmeister(m): 9:58am On Oct 08, 2020
HappyPagan:
Watch Pentecostal Christians come and attack the Pope in favor of a white man who has been divorced and has had affairs with a porn star.. of course, the Pope is wrong.. who be Pope when Adeboye and Oyedepo dey?

Read, and pray for the Stupid people
But the pope is also a white man? Can’t you see the ironical hypocrisy in your statement thou pagan?
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 10:00am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:



You didn't prove why it is pointless. You just said it is pointless.

So why should all who read your statement believe you?

This makes me think you have ran out of ideas.

LoLz! It is pointless because it has nothing to do with the subject nor does it provide any sort of validation for your position.

LMAO! Why are you projecting your lack of ideas onto me? Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by uuzba(m): 10:00am On Oct 08, 2020
Ihatemumu:




Our generation and the next are getting smarter,
If this was said in the past, almost everybody will believe the Pope instantly cause he is a Pope
So you are smarter than the Pope now?
He carries the position bestowed upon him directly from Jesus Christ.
He did not make himself pope, He did not campaign for it.
He has no money of his own.
The position was given to him.
Your pride can never understand such type of position.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Omezif(m): 10:01am On Oct 08, 2020
Trump should behave like a christian, because there are a lot of correction from pope if he will listen.

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