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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Karleb(m): 10:07am On Oct 08, 2020
Many people who disagreed with the Pope simply do not know the history of Christianity.

Some years ago, the pope was next to God.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by InvertedHammer: 10:09am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


Lol...... hypocrites. When your pastors and deaconess were putting fire in their maid private parts, or when your pastors dey give choir mistress lambs you will not talk ó. Bigot. No religious organization is perfect. and in the Catholic church any priest caught doing sh*t is excommunicated and charged to court it's standard procedure, something your church doesn't have
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Go and read the charges in US court documents. The church was aware of the allegations and covered it. None of the priests was excommunicated. They were transferred out. Why is the church paying millions of dollars in compensation? I am a staunch Catholic and still able to see the hypocrisy. Organized religion is a scam. It is all about the money and nothing about salvation. So the Pope cannot claim to be on any higher moral ground.

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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by olumide4christ: 10:10am On Oct 08, 2020
Agbegbaorogboye:

Be sure you meet 7vs7 before moving to 15

It has no correlation to the topic of the thread or what I said, which you quoted, unless you are reading a different Bible.

Off-topic!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Ihatemumu: 10:10am On Oct 08, 2020
uuzba:

So you are smarter than the Pope now?
He carries the position bestowed upon him directly from Jesus Christ.
He did not make himself pope, He did not campaign for it.
He has no money of his own.
The position was given to him.
Your pride can never understand such type of position.

Directly for Jesus Christ grin grin grin


Pope is a human just like anybody else, Pope also sins,

b]Directly for Jesus Christ[/b] grin grin grin
What is even funny is that you sounded like you were at the event when Jesus directly picked Pope


Why is Jesus will always picking Whites at Pope?

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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 10:10am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


LoLz! It is pointless because it has nothing to do with the subject nor does it provide any sort of validation for your position.

LMAO! Why are you projecting your lack of ideas onto me? Bwahahahahaha!

Apart from the fact I was just tryna help you have knowledge of history,

Let me help you, by breaking things down so you can understand. (Cause its tough for you).

Actually I won't, I will just give you clues to understanding what you quoted.

The scriptures say:


Acts 3
13The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. 14You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. 15 You killed the author of life

Revelations
"Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen."

Why were the crowd of Jews being addressed accused of killing Jesus?

How many people pierced Jesus?

Employ some deductive reasoning and eventually you will get it.

May God help your understanding.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ABANGWABOI(m): 10:18am On Oct 08, 2020
SegFault:

Look at this dumbo, it's obvious by your poor mental capability that you don't know anything about history, read up on the Crusades and stop disgracing your education. Trump supporters are usually clueless and dumb I've met only a few who can make reasonable arguments.

Your useless mother is clueless and dumb for raising an imp and cretinous slowpoke like you..
Clown.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Grandmeister(m): 10:18am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


Where in the Bible is it mentioned that Paul killed Christians?
He was there when Stephen was stoned to death, infact he was the one that got stephen’s clothes. From there he took it upon himself to hunt down Christians all over judea.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Ambassadors: 10:24am On Oct 08, 2020
Pope Francis is the false Prophet spoken about in Rev 13. Time will tell. He is supporting the amalgamation of the one world religion. watch him carefully
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 10:26am On Oct 08, 2020
uuzba:

A Christian is somebody who follows Jesus Chirst.
Starting with Baptism a sign to show that you are now a member or the family of Jesus Christ.
-
Whatever the past of any of the apostles and disciples, they were all baptised and followed Jesus Christ.

I agree.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Twinna: 10:26am On Oct 08, 2020
True
IneedSugarMumy1:
You're not in position to determine that sir




Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by cassidy1996(m): 10:27am On Oct 08, 2020
IneedSugarMumy1:
You're not in position to determine that sir




my guy respect your self
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ALLFATHER14: 10:27am On Oct 08, 2020
Openbusiness:
Excuse me, please, define "religious purposes" and tell us what those purposes involve. Does it include praying to statues, or reverencing statues, or making statues (like you said) or owning statues and using statues for personal prayers? My Bible WAS compiled by the Catholic Church, but my Bible WAS NOT compiled by the Roman Catholic church. There's a critically big difference, and the Catholic Church (the entire body of Christ) IS NOT THE SAME as the Roman Catholic Church. You said you make statues for religous purposes. The Catholic Church of Christ doesn't make statues or believe in statues or pray to statues. That is the definition of Idolatry.

And seriously, shocked like seriously, you actually want to equate the Ark of the Covenant, inside where the very stone tablets of 10 Commandments that God himself wrote and gave to Moses were kept? The Ark of the Covenant that was inside the Holy of Holies and nobody could approach, see or touch and survive? The Ark of the Covenant that even the Judaism High Priest had to perform rituals and sacrifices before he could approach or have his priesthood carry it with poles, and if he as much as made a single mistake, he would die? That's what you want to compare with the statues and images of Mary that you guys pray to reverence and carry about and keep in your homes, pockets etc as a personal effect? You're funny oh. This statement alone shows your understanding of the Bible is highly questionable.

✓ The Ark of the Covenant IS NOT a statue or image of worship.
✓ The Ark of the Covenant was kept away from the public and priests, only the high Priest could go near it and
✓ The Ark of the Covenant could not be seen, touched or handled, otherwise it was sudden death. It was always COVERED inside the innermost and holiest part of the temple called the Holy of Holies, that was demarcated from other places. None of the priesthood could see, touch or approach it or go into the Holy of Holies. And only the High Priest could go in ONCE A YEAR on the day of atonement to do ritual for the forgiveness of sins for the Israelites and Judaism believers.
✓ The Ark of the Covenant was a physical seat or a stool (the kind found with the Royals or Kings, like the seat of a King). So the Ark of the Covenant was God's seat within the nation of Israel, WHY, because He was their true King. And as long as they had the Ark of the Covenant with them, it was God's chosen way to communicate to them that He was physically present in their midst.

BUT
✓ the statue and images of Mary is an idol, it is a carving that you worship, reverence and pray to, and the statues are personal to you and handled by you and carried around by you or erected in your worship centers that you see, touch and pay obeisance to and pray to.

So please and please don't ever compare that to be Ark of the Covenant. That would be the biggest lie in the world and falsification to the Bible.

Exodus 20
1 And God spoke all these words:
2 "I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.
3 "You shall have no other gods before [1] me.
4 "You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.
5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them
; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,
6 but showing love to a thousand [generations] of those who love me and keep my commandments.

And point of correction, the Roman Catholics are not the "beginners" of Christianity, neither are you the custodians of Christianity like you try to appear to the world. Your Pope is not the Pope of Christianity (or the Catholic Church of Christianity). Your Pope is only the Pope of the Roman Catholics and the Roman Catholic Church, which is good, and I'm not against that, but i'm only setting the records straight. This matter is a case of every mallam to his kettle, I believe in religous freedom and you can practice your beliefs anyway you want. I don't have a single problem with that.

The Cherubims that were made on it were not statues abi!!?? you are in denial bro, it's normal.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 10:31am On Oct 08, 2020
Grandmeister:

He was there when Stephen was stoned to death, infact he was the one that got stephen’s clothes. From there he took it upon himself to hunt down Christians all over judea.

How does that mean he killed Christians?
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Grandmeister(m): 10:33am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


How does that mean he killed Christians?
You’re a double tongued person..sly and cunning in your ways.someone took the time to even bring up different translations were Paul himself said he hunted some down to death.. and you still ask how he was responsible for the death of many Christians? Don’t bother I won’t reply you.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 10:34am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


Apart from the fact I was just tryna help you have knowledge of history,

Let me help you, by breaking things down so you can understand. (Cause its tough for you).

Actually I won't, I will just give you clues to understanding what you quoted.

The scriptures say:


Acts 3
13The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of our fathers, has glorified his servant Jesus. You handed him over to be killed, and you disowned him before Pilate, though he had decided to let him go. 14You disowned the Holy and Righteous One and asked that a murderer be released to you. 15 You killed the author of life

Revelations
"Behold, he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, even those who pierced him, and all tribes of the earth will wail on account of him. Even so. Amen."

Why were the crowd of Jews being addressed accused of killing Jesus?

How many people pierced Jesus?

Employ some deductive reasoning and eventually you will get it.

May God help your understanding.

LoL! OK so he was killer by proxy just like lawyers and judges are killers by proxy, I get you. LMAO!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Mejor79(m): 10:34am On Oct 08, 2020
But Baraak Obama was christian to the Pope. His just against Trump due to One World Order which Trump is not playing towards.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Nodogragra4me(m): 10:35am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


What do you take the the Vatican church for!!?? It's the largest church in the world for goodness sake.


Provide a link to this your statement: catholics don't read, they don't study, they just assume and assumption is the lowest form of knowledge.

A catholic argues without Bible support and when you ask for one, he retorts that his church wrote the bible and therefore a better authority.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by geoffez: 10:36am On Oct 08, 2020
chieyine:


https://dailypost.ng/2020/10/08/us-trump-is-not-a-christian-pope-francis/
Is the same pope a Christian,the man who signed authograph on human breast,the same man who said openly that bible bring more to the world than qouran? That's y Bible said,judge not,first judge yourself,the same man that agreed on same-sex marriage, any man that come out to support joe Biden(pedophile) is not a Christian at all,gay,lesbian,racist etc.Weve not seen at all,I pray he will win the election,then we will know bcs that's how it all started against GEJ and Bubu finally worn the election,we can now testify of the outcome now
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Openbusiness: 10:37am On Oct 08, 2020
ALLFATHER14:


The Cherubims that were made on it were not statues abi!!?? you are in denial bro, it's normal.
Denial that what? The only person in denial here is YOU. You are a Roman Catholic and you worship and pray to statues. You practice idolatry according to the Bible, and I didn't write the Bible. You can try to spin it and twist it all you want, but the truth still remains. But that's not my business. You can continue worshipping your statues and images. But stop attaching that to Christianity. That is not Christianity. That is Roman Catholicism
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 10:38am On Oct 08, 2020
Grandmeister:

You’re a double tongued person..sly and cunning in your ways.someone took the time to even bring up different translations were Paul himself said he hunted some down to death.. and you still ask how he was responsible for the death of many Christians? Don’t bother I won’t reply you.

LoL! Oh he was responsible for the killings but not the killer abi? Talk about double tongued. Bwahahahahaha!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 10:41am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


LoL! OK so he was killer by proxy just like lawyers and judges are killers by proxy, I get you. LMAO!

Finally, you are starting to have some sense.

Now, to increase the sense all the more:

When lawyers judge someone to be killed (good lawyers) they do it because the person is deserving. Mostly a murderer.

Christians then were not murderers or committed any crime. Rather they were preaching love. But out of envy, they were killed.

The highest court (In the heavens) then declared these Jews murderers.

Who are you O man, to go against what God the righteous judge has declared.

This is what Paul spoke of after His revelation from Jesus.

This is what you are in denial of.

Hope you have sense now.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Nobody: 10:41am On Oct 08, 2020
IneedSugarMumy1:
You're not in position to determine that sir





He is, that is his opinion, feel free to make yours
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 10:44am On Oct 08, 2020
Igbochief001:

I swear ...
love this reply Op only the vatican knows if christianity is true or false
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 10:45am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


Finally, you are starting to have some sense.

Now, to increase the sense all the more:

When lawyers judge someone to be killed (good lawyers) they do it because the person is deserving. Mostly a murderer.

Christians then were not murderers or committed any crime. Rather they were preaching love. But out of envy, they were killed.

The highest court (In the heavens) then declared these Jews murderers.

Who are you O man, to go against what God the righteous judge has declared.

This is what Paul spoke of after His revelation from Jesus.

This is what you are in denial of.

Hope you have sense now.






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Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Seunpaul01(m): 10:45am On Oct 08, 2020
Is seems the pope just judge a man.

He did not say anything about same sex marriage and abortion. He also stopped Trump from visiting him cos he thought he wants to use the Catholic but now condemned the man faith.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 10:46am On Oct 08, 2020
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ALLFATHER14: 10:47am On Oct 08, 2020
Nodogragra4me:



He is only the head of a mafia organisation that blesses guns and invest in condom productions.

Have you ever asked yourself why nations with large catholic membership are also headquarters of global crime. Italy is home to the Vatican and head of all mafia network worldwide, Mexico is a catholic doctrine practicing nation and heads the global drug sales and because Trump wants to curtail the sales in the US, the pope travelled to mexico to stir the peasants into action against Trump

Why is he not travelling for Evangelism in Iran and Iraq and holding mass there but in an already conquered territory? Catholic drug investment is being threatened by Trump,

More and more allegations that you cannot prove. This same Trump you are talking about gave more than 50 million dollars to the building and support of the Catholic church in the US. And your Gun and violence allegations are just hilarious, Argentina, Uruguay, Brazil, Angola, San Marino, France, Dominican Republic are all Catholic nations and they have no violence or insurgency, you just highlighted Mexico where their cartel members worship the Angél dé la Múertè and you think it's the Catholics that incite the violence. LMAO.

The Catholic church travels around the middle East for evangelism, the Catholic church sends aid to the middle East, but I didn't see your pastors there, did I also mention it's the only legal church to exist in China for now.

Check your facts before you open your mouth waaaaaaa and talk trash
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by ALLFATHER14: 10:49am On Oct 08, 2020
Nodogragra4me:



Provide a link to this your statement: catholics don't read, they don't study, they just assume and assumption is the lowest form of knowledge.

A catholic argues without Bible support and when you ask for one, he retorts that his church wrote the bible and therefore a better authority.



Link up with Google and type "Largest Church in the world" feed your ignorance.
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by LordReed(m): 10:49am On Oct 08, 2020
Jeromejnr:


I am glad you concur. wink

Nope, just revelling in your revisionist gymnastics. LMAO!
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 10:51am On Oct 08, 2020
tnerro1:
And you that can’t condemn gay and same sex marriage is a Christian?
if you condemn gay waiting you gain? they have choice of life. if the pope condemn gay you will still mock him. global politics demand you act diplomatic in issues like gay
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Sulogy2255: 10:54am On Oct 08, 2020
bptc10:
Is Pope Francis the one to determine who is a Christian?, He must be sick in his brain
yes oh their church is the foundation of christianity. except the bible you are using in your church don't have genesis to revelation
Re: Pope Francis: Donald Trump Is Not A Christian by Jeromejnr(m): 10:58am On Oct 08, 2020
LordReed:


Nope, just revelling in your revisionist gymnastics. LMAO!

Lol..you cant take a beating.

Sorry, will take it easy next time.

We know when an argument is lost by an opponent. When he has nothing to say.

Glad you have learnt a lot today.

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