LostMyZeal:
Over the years, what we MUFC fans have failed to realize is that MUFC has fallen off the perch ...it doesn't matter how you wanna look at it, but we have simply fallen off the fvckin perch, and since that title win in 2013, we've had to live on past glories and that's delusional


Since SAF left, only two teams have had an impressive trophy haul....and that's Chelsea and Man City

The biggest problem at MUFC is the fact that the people around the club have failed to face the bitter truth about having fallen off the perch...so they do all they can to try to make the success speedy and automatic instead of going back to the drawing board to strategize carefully.

There's always this urge within the club to hastily get back to the glory days and that urge is usually accompanied by desperation which other clubs have had to leverage on over the years and that gives credence to the messy transfer windows we have been having.

WE ARE LIVING ON GLORIES OF THE PAST
Y'all better face the hard truth

Yeah.

The fans have refused to move on, we keep putting pressure on the board and management through the press, ex-players, legends etc. Also, social media has not helped at all. Why not leave them to do what they need to do? I am so sure those guys don’t care about DNA and Traditions Sh1t, they want to hire and fire for success.

Meanwhile, going back to the drawing board for another Fergie era is not a good option. Why? Social media, other clubs have seriously become more competitive (top 4 vs top 6/, sponsors (we have so many of them) want success, same fans will still ask you why we haven’t won a trophy since 2017.

Go check how European and American companies see lots of success these days. Inorganic growth! There is no time to grow organically, continue to be aggressive with acquisitions because it is faster and it leads to quick wins. Apply same to football, no time to check time. Bayern, Chelsea, Madrid, Barca, Juve etc will continue to dominate the game because they don’t care about organic growth, they will continue to sack managers to achieve success. That is exactly what we need. It may sound counterintuitive, but it’s a strategy that will continue to work. Fuvk DNA!

eph12:

I'm not sure anybody said Poch is not a good coach.

There are only concerns about how he sets up his team to play

Some people were saying he is not an improvement. Some were acting like Poch is a plague.

I don't know how bad his set up must have been for people to hate him on this board too much.

The disrespect is real here.

KingAlabi:


Poch is good no doubt.
But I dey reason am say
Two top teams were looking for managers and dem no even look im side

First na Juventus(they ended up hiring rookie Pirlo)

Second na Barca ( they ended up hiring Koeman like bloody Koeman, although it might be poch managed Espanyol and that Catalan shiit)

I think even Bayern at a point to before their recent coach.

Why those top teams no reason poch, adding to the reason why I am skeptical.

for Juve who knows why dey hired Pirlo, some reports said it was a move to make the team marketable, like an attractive point or there about. I doubt that it was due to his managerial know how considering he just concluded his coaching license.

Barca and Bayern can take risks by getting unknown names, which dey have usually done and like u said for barca, poch's statement might have played a role in that case.

Poch might also have his preference, possibly England and Spain.

LostMyZeal:



Nawa oh.... which key players una dey cry about for this thread...I'm guessing it's Son and Kane


For what I know...Son and Kane have been getting in & out of injuries through their Tottenham career


But despite all these.... Tottenham remained a threat all through Pochettino's time and they even had some Ucl spells back then



And it could also be said that Poch got tired of Tottenham and intentionally got himself sacked from the job just like Mourinho did at MUFC... before they left their respective clubs, they were making snide remarks in the media

ED WOODWARD AKA ED NWANNEM PAKOWARD!!! HIS NIGERIAN NAME.

THEY BETTER GET POCH NOT WHEN OLE STARTS GIVING US GOOD RESULTS(SMOKESCREEN).THEN LATER CHOP BEATING,WE ALL KNOW HIS PATTERN.

LostMyZeal:
Over the years, what we MUFC fans have failed to realize is that MUFC has fallen off the perch ...it doesn't matter how you wanna look at it, but we have simply fallen off the fvckin perch, and since that title win in 2013, we've had to live on past glories and that's delusional


Since SAF left, only two teams have had an impressive trophy haul....and that's Chelsea and Man City

The biggest problem at MUFC is the fact that the people around the club have failed to face the bitter truth about having fallen off the perch...so they do all they can to try to make the success speedy and automatic instead of going back to the drawing board to strategize carefully.

There's always this urge within the club to hastily get back to the glory days and that urge is usually accompanied by desperation which other clubs have had to leverage on over the years and that gives credence to the messy transfer windows we have been having.

WE ARE LIVING ON GLORIES OF THE PAST
Y'all better face the hard truth

"Going back to the drawing board" and "Rebuilding" are two scam statements. There is nothing like Rebuilding. If a coach doesn't meet targets of winning leagues or trophies or at least get close, sack such a coach and move on. The most successful clubs we have presently are all doing it. If hansi Flick starts f*king up at Bayern, Bayern will still sack him and employ another person , not minding the fact that the guy gave them a treble last season.

All these DNA shit Ole is just talking about is a scam by the werey to stay longer at the job to buy himself more time and may be get lucky along the line to win a trophy and use Man utd to build CV. The f*Ker has currently run out of ideas.

If Man utd had employed another seasoned coach after sacking Mourinho then, may be that one would have delivered us a league or another trophy at least along the line But they decided to employ a PE teacher all in the name of scam Rebuilding and DNA

The likes of Barca, Juve, Madrid, etc will always hire and fire till thy kingdom come, and that doesn't mean that they don't have a philosophy or goal.

timay:


"Going back to the drawing board" and "Rebuilding" are two scam statements. There is nothing like Rebuilding. If a coach doesn't meet targets of winning leagues or trophies or at least get close, sack such a coach and move on. The most successful clubs we have presented are all doing it. If hansi Flick starts f*king up at Bayern, Bayern will still sack him and employ another person , not minding the fact that the guy gave them a treble last season.

All these DNA shit Ole is just talking about is a scam by the werey to stay longer at the job to buy himself more time and may be get lucky along the line to win a trophy and use Man utd to build CV. The f*Ker has currently run out if ideas.

If Man utd had employed another seasoned coach after sacking Ole, may be that one would have delivered us a league or another trophy at least. But they decided to employ a PE teacher all in the name of scam Rebuilding and DNA

The likes of Barca, Juve, Madrid, etc will always hire and fire till thy kingdom come, and that doesn't mean that they don't have a philosophy or goal.

GBAM

KingAlabi:


Poch is good no doubt.
But I dey reason am say
Two top teams were looking for managers and dem no even look im side

First na Juventus(they ended up hiring rookie Pirlo)

Second na Barca ( they ended up hiring Koeman like bloody Koeman, although it might be poch managed Espanyol and that Catalan shiit)

I think even Bayern at a point to before their recent coach.

Why those top teams no reason poch, adding to the reason why I am skeptical.

Pochettino has his heart set on Manutd, this club probably contacted him but he turned them down. Barcelona contacted him before appointing Koeman. Poch will do a far better job with our player and will get us playing good football. Na the board hand he dey, whoever is the manager will be supported when necessary and criticize when necessary..

KingAlabi:

Poch is better than ole no doubt, my fear na some managers are just excellent with small/medium teams, pressure wasn't on poch body at Tottenham, but if he comes to United can he deal with the pressure

no pressure but he was sacked how?

Joezinho:
Marcelo biesla with his weight and age is still at the line barking orders at his boys which makes it seem to the boys that the manager is playing with them on the pitch.

But this youthful onigbinde that acts like a cripple won't even stand up and give orders..

Our defense looks like it has never been coached. They look so positionally lost..

Gerrout jare.

he is USED to sitting on the BENCH

eph12:

Your guy Mourinho was here for 2+ out of those seasons and he made UCL just once. The 3rd one was definitely going to end outside top 4 with the results he was getting. Don't forget he spent much more that Poch did. Las las Poch is a better coach than Mourinho and Tottenham lack ambition for replacing Poch with Mourinho

TrebleChamp:
Pochettino has his heart set on Manutd, this club probably contacted him but he turned them down. Barcelona contacted him before appointing Koeman. Poch will do a far better job with our player and will get us playing good football. Na the board hand he dey, whoever is the manager will be supported when necessary and criticize when necessary..

with the amount of money Poch may be paid in united how won't his heart be set on united he would even add his kidney and liver as well

Expert17:



Haba....

How do you push to be in the first team?

Mouesque!

eph12:

Yet Son and Kane combined have almost double the G/A the whole other members of the squad put together almost every season. Those two are quality and will start in almost every team in the world.

But both players weren't world beaters when Poch took over spurs, it can also be argued that Kane became the beast of a Striker under Poch tutelage. I think Pochettino will be a fantastic manager for us...

odizeey:


Some people were saying he is not an improvement. Some were acting like Poch is a plague.

I don't know how bad his set up must have been for people to hate him on this board too much.

The disrespect is real here.

No people are thinking long term. It's the same way some clubs won't consider Sarri or Mourinho or whatever. Those guys are good but not just the one they want. If you say you don't want Sarri, it doesn't mean Sarri is a plague

BlueAngel444:
no pressure but he was sacked how?

So when the pressure came, he couldn't handle it?

BlueAngel444:

Comprehension problem?

TrebleChamp:
But both players weren't world beaters when Poch took over spurs, it can also be argued that Kane became the beast of a Striker under Poch tutelage. I think Pochettino will be a fantastic manager for us...

Will you also accept that those that flopped also did under Poch tutelage/mismangement?

eph12:

No people are thinking long term. It's the same way some clubs won't consider Sarri or Mourinho or whatever. Those guys are good but not just the one they want. If you say you don't want Sarri, it doesn't mean Sarri is a plague

Okay o. It's all in the hands of our board sha.

Who was Harry Kane before Poch? Dele Alli, Sonaldo This thread sha

BlueAngel444:
he is USED to sitting on the BENCH

I saw what you did their, but you do have a point sha

BlueAngel444:
with the amount of money Poch may be paid in united how won't his heart be set on united he would even add his kidney and liver as well

Managing Manchester United goes beyond monetary gain, this is a club with massive appeal to any manager in the world. You wouldn't understand this sha, na Chelsea you dey support...

Report: Manchester United ‘concerned’ about Bruno Fernandes physical & mental state

Bruno Fernandes has started every Premier League since he arrived from Sporting earlier this year and has quickly become the first name on Ole Gunnar Solskjær’s team sheet.

In addition to United’s over reliance on their new midfielder, Fernandes is at the forefront of Portugal’s midfield.

Fernandes’ role at the club has almost instantly become that of a leader and his on-pitch spat with Victor Lindelöf last season showed that. Moving to a new country amid the coronavirus pandemic whilst recently welcoming his newborn child, you would give the 26-year-old the benefit of the doubt.

Portuguese newspaper O Jogo, via Sport Witness, claim that Manchester United are ‘concerned’ about Fernandes’ ‘physical and mental wear’.

There’s no doubting that most of the pressure has been placed in Bruno’s hands since his arrival and Solskjær has admitted that he has been picking his new star player a bit too often.

Manchester United signed five new players in the most recent transfer window and the increased number of options in Bruno’s position might allow Solskjær to sporadically rest him more frequently.

Source - UtdReport.

eph12:

Will you also accept that those that flopped also did under Poch tutelage/mismangement?

Namely?

Oasis007:


He's too comfortable on the Bench to be honest. He cares not if he plays or not, as far as weekly Allawee no bounce.

When DDG was laying Egggs like overfed Breeder, he didn't push enough to be in charge. We've seen what Henderson is capable of - as good as prime DDG, he deserves the Spot.

eph12:

Your guy Mourinho was here for 2+ out of those seasons and he made UCL just once. The 3rd one was definitely going to end outside top 4 with the results he was getting. Don't forget he spent much more that Poch did. Las las Poch is a better coach than Mourinho and Tottenham lack ambition for replacing Poch with Mourinho

My guy, mourinho?? You got the wrong person. What's my business with mourinho?

Analyse Mourinho's 2+ years at United and see how silly your statement looks.

1st year he got the job at United. We lost UCL qualification before he got the job so he had to play Europa league that year. He won it and got us qualified for the 2nd year.

2nd year he was in the Champions league and made top 2 in the league. So we qualified for UCL the following year.

So his UCL qualification record at United was perfect. He never missed UCL qualification.

eph12:

Your guy Mourinho was here for 2+ out of those seasons and he made UCL just once. The 3rd one was definitely going to end outside top 4 with the results he was getting. Don't forget he spent much more that Poch did. Las las Poch is a better coach than Mourinho and Tottenham lack ambition for replacing Poch with Mourinho

TrebleChamp:
Namely?

Lamela, Ndobele

larride:


I didn’t say anything. I only ask you to back up your post.

Obviously you know what you typed was okoto yarns

.k

TrebleChamp:
Pochettino has his heart set on Manutd, this club probably contacted him but he turned them down. Barcelona contacted him before appointing Koeman. Poch will do a far better job with our player and will get us playing good football. Na the board hand he dey, whoever is the manager will be supported when necessary and criticize when necessary..

They didn't

BlueAngel444:
no pressure but he was sacked how?

Tottenham fans were quite happy with regular top 4 finish until dem enter finals for champions league they taught they had arrived, if poch enters this team today na trophy fans go dey expect straight away, you get?

ChristoBam:


My guy, mourinho?? You got the wrong person. What's my business with mourinho?

Analyse Mourinho's 2+ years at United and see how silly your statement looks.

1st year he got the job at United. We lost UCL qualification before he got the job so he had to play Europa league that year. He won it and got us qualified for the 2nd year.

2nd year he was in the Champions league and made top 2 in the league. So we qualified for UCL the following year.

So his UCL qualification record at United was perfect. He never missed UCL qualification.

Meant to write he made top 4 once. Ended 6th once and could have ended outside the top 6 if he remained for the 3rd year.

eph12:

Meant to write he made top 4 once. Ended 6th once and could have ended outside the top 6 if he remained for the 3rd year.

The main thing is that he got us into the UCL every single time he was supposed to. He didn't miss qualification once! So your mock comparisons with Poch is a big joke.