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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Sulele04(m): 5:25pm On Oct 09, 2020
HewlettPackard:
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no mind them na too much education cause am everybody sef wan form english, dey go dey analyze wetin dem no sabi.
is it today that they just want to start reforming sars, maybe when they reform sars 100times and they have killed almost half of our youths that is when their brain will start functioning.
REFORM SARS
ENDSARS.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 5:38pm On Oct 09, 2020
My own stance on this issue is that government should proscribe SARS (including FSARS).

Then, a new unit should be set up with better structure and clear code of operations that can help address the shortcomings of SARS and FSARS.

I don't think any attempts to reform SARS will be successful.

Then, the issue of providing better training and funds for the police needs to be taken with seriousness.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 5:47pm On Oct 09, 2020
Ending Sars would extremely b dangerous as they are the only people that gives Yahoo n d likes nightmares.

Reforming Sarz is just a "name change" as far as d corrupted a the criminaly minded ones are still in.

Can't even think of a better solution to this scene.

I have had a mild encounter with them and i was just smilling all tru even when their faces were as strong as olumo rocks(no smile at all).

They checked my fingers,my phones and were just looking for something to probably hold unto.

I am sure my smile sent a signal to them and they asked me leave...

They were really waiting for a mistake.

I think creating a new counter-sarz agency to monitor and checkmate their activities would go a long way but i fear Nigeria and corruption.

Like donjazet n raudmeter wrote earlier.

Those corrupt sarz are wellt trained in handling guns,also they are briefed Abt d best escape route for criminals wch we becomes handful for their quest to criminality when they are eventually kicked out as in #Endsars.

A very intelligent and carefully strategize plan is actually what Will take us out of this shit

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 5:47pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


I am right of center.
I support same sex marriage, I support abortion at any stage even late stage as long as the mother does not want to carry it.
I believe in climate change and Science behind it
I support a free market economy
I support lower taxes
I support a secular society and separation of church and state as long as it does not affect the freedom and human right of people. E.g Religious leaders abusing fundamental human rights, govt should step in

Most importantly I support people taking responsibilities for their own action and how it affects their future and not blaming others and the past especially things your great grandfather who you never knew did and you cannot control

Your progression is rational, Most people when young are very far left and as they grow older have more life experience they come more towards the center and some even go right in finances, in social issues and life generally tha is why people who were "woke" i their youth will grow up and start complaining of "Children of nowadays"

Even the Holy books said
When I was a youth I thought like a youth..
Going by this, you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
You are more liberal than you are conservative.
You are one of the few educated people who align with republicans primarily for their economic policies, even though it has proven to fail sometimes.

I'm quite surprised you support abortion, you never gave such vibe.

I'm actually in a tough dilemma right now regarding that, it's easy to take the theoretical positions on social matters like these when one is not affected. When it stares you in the face, the lines become very blurred.

I broke up with my babe of more than 18 months few weeks back and last week she told me that she is now pregnant. The kind confusion wey dey my head since Saturday no be here. cheesy
A lot of questions have popped up in my head including the issue of abortion and I don't know if I'm ready to Wed or be a father or abort my potential child.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 5:50pm On Oct 09, 2020
donjazet:

Going by this, you are socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
You are more liberal than you are conservative.
You are one of the few educated people who align with republicans primarily for their economic policies, even though it has proven to fail sometimes.

I'm quite surprised you support abortion, you never gave such vibe.

I'm actually in a tough dilemma right now regarding that, it's easy to take the theoretical positions on social matters like this when one is not affected.
I broke up with my babe of more than 18 months few weeks back and last week she told me that she is now pregnant. The kind confusion wey dey my head since Saturday no be here. cheesy
A lot of questions have popped up in my head including the issue of abortion and I don't know if I'm ready to Wed or be a father of abort my potential child.
you are right,that guy is extreme on abortion rights have,late abortions,my own na 12weeks abortion allow,anything from that na murder.
It's also easy to support certain politics when it doesn't affect you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 5:52pm On Oct 09, 2020
I support gay marriage but I have massively doubts about gay adoptions,transgender cutting people's dick(usually small children)to change their sex,ruamdeter wentin u think

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 5:54pm On Oct 09, 2020
madrid5:
you are right,that guy is extreme on abortion rights have,late abortions,my own na 12weeks abortion allow,anything from that na murder.
It's also easy to support certain politics when it doesn't affect you.

Indeed. It's easy to be socially liberal if you're not directly affected. I'm learning the hard way.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 5:54pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


I am right of center.
I support same sex marriage, I support abortion at any stage even late stage as long as the mother does not want to carry it.
I believe in climate change and Science behind it
I support a free market economy
I support lower taxes
I support a secular society and separation of church and state as long as it does not affect the freedom and human right of people. E.g Religious leaders abusing fundamental human rights, govt should step in

Most importantly I support people taking responsibilities for their own action and how it affects their future and not blaming others and the past especially things your great grandfather who you never knew did and you cannot control

Your progression is rational, Most people when young are very far left and as they grow older have more life experience they come more towards the center and some even go right in finances, in social issues and life generally tha is why people who were "woke" i their youth will grow up and start complaining of "Children of nowadays"

Even the Holy books said
When I was a youth I thought like a youth..
Aside same sex marriage, you made a very good point.

You most times make sense when you are not discussing football. I’m always looking forward to read your comment not relating to football.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:01pm On Oct 09, 2020
madrid5:
I support gay marriage but I have massively doubts about gay adoptions,transgender cutting people's dick(usually small children)to change their sex,ruamdeter wentin u think

We are same in this train of thought.
No parent should ever subject their child to a sex change. It is extreme liberalism and also Child Abuse in my opinion. Only adults who can bear consequences of their actions should make such permanent life changing decisions.
As for gay couples, more research should be carried out to know the social and mental impacts of same-sex couples raising a child. If it is socially beneficial or detrimental. I think further research is needed on this.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 6:01pm On Oct 09, 2020
hensben:
Aside same sex marriage, you made a very good point.

You most times make sense when you are not discussing football. I’m always looking forward to read your comment not relating to football.
bros there is no real case against same sex marriage,as long as two consenting adults want to spend the rest of the lives together the state shouldn't stop it,but adoptions is where I draw line

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 6:10pm On Oct 09, 2020
madrid5:
bros there is no real case against same sex marriage,as long as two consenting adults want to spend the rest of the lives together the state shouldn't stop it,but adoptions is where I draw line
What make you think same sex marriage is cool? It kind of weird and disgusting to me.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:10pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


E.g An extreme example will be A religious leader who says his own religion allows human sacrifice and his "god" told him to. I will expect govt to step in there

basically none of your religious practice should violate the laws of the land

Here we go again with this your law of the land line.
How do we extrapolate religious laws to the law of the land?
I gave you a clear example that day. Some states in Nigeria abide by sharia law which allows for underage marriage.
Should that "law of the land" be allowed to stand??
Isn't the "law of the land" made by people who derive their ideology from their religion?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:11pm On Oct 09, 2020
madrid5:
I support gay marriage but I have massively doubts about gay adoptions,transgender cutting people's dick(usually small children)to change their sex,ruamdeter wentin u think

I support peoples right to put their peniss or vagina wherever they want in their bedroom. I support your right to cut your own dickkk but must be done as an adult when you know what you are doing and the risk involved. I do not support adoption yet

Abortion my opinion is this. A woman carries the pregnancy and no one should force her to do what she does whether to carry it or not. She deals with the pains and discomfort and if she doesnt want to go ahead anymore, she should have the choice to opt out and abort it. Its bullying by men to force women to carry what they do not want to term

An unborn should not kill a born, If a womans health cannot take it either medically, psychologically financially or otherwise she should be able to terminate

We men we can go on with our life after impreganting 20 women and no one will know, Its a woman who will deal with it for most of her life and she cant really do much about it. So it must be done with 100% approval from her

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:11pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


E.g An extreme example will be A religious leader who says his own religion allows human sacrifice and his "god" told him to. I will expect govt to step in there

basically none of your religious practice should violate the laws of the land

Solid!!!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:12pm On Oct 09, 2020
donjazet:


Here we go again with this your law of the land line.
How do we extrapolate religious laws from law of the land?
I gave you a clear example that day. Some states in Nigeria abide by sharia law which allows for underage marriage.
Should that "law of the land" be allowed to stand??

Yes. Its the law and the law supercedes all emotions or personal opinion. Laws are created based on their beliefs and tradition and that should be binding on everyone. It doesnt have to make sense to you.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by donjazet(m): 6:16pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


Yes. Its the law and the law supercedes all emotions or personal opinion. Laws are created based on their beliefs and tradition and that should be binding on everyone. It doesnt have to make sense to you.

Does this mean you don't believe in the evolution of thought and by extrapolation the laws?
So if i go to sokoto and I see a 60 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl, I shouldn't campaign against it because it is the "law of the land"?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:20pm On Oct 09, 2020
donjazet:


Does this mean you don't believe in the evolution of thought and by extrapolation the laws?
So if i go to sokoto and I see a 60 year old man marrying a 9 year old girl, I shouldn't campaign against it because it is the "law of the land"?

You can campaign against anything. You have the freedom to do it. Some people are campaigning against education, using internet, even wearing clothes

Many people see the laws of your land as absurd, same way you see their own laws as absurd. The law supercedes all emotions. If the inhabitants think about it collectively and change the law then that is fine. Your campaign can change things for them or make them change their laws, but until they change their law. You have to abide

You cannot go to Saudi now and say you must enter female hostel by force since you could do that in Enugu

I have given you certain examples in the past where cultures and beliefs are vastly different from group to group and it shapes their laws

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:22pm On Oct 09, 2020
They should look for a better way to catch thieves. We know they won't sack their men.

But we want them to end this SARS first.

It's not just about SARS unit. It's about police brutality.

Even before SARS police have been a menace to the society.

SARS just amplified their dealings with their useless way of operations and dress code.

Igbobians and igbobites in police polo.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by elrony(m): 6:26pm On Oct 09, 2020
odizeey:
They should look for a better way to catch thieves. We know they won't sack their men.

But we want them to end this SARS first.

It's not just about SARS unit. It's about police brutality.

Even before SARS police have been a menace to the society.

SARS just amplified their dealings with their useless way of operations and dress code.

Igbobians and igbobites in police polo.

Nigerian Law enforcement are worst than criminals cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 6:29pm On Oct 09, 2020
elrony:


Nigerian Law enforcement are worst than criminals cheesy
I dey tell you.

They've wasted many destined than Saran himself.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:31pm On Oct 09, 2020
hensben:
Aside same sex marriage, you made a very good point.

You most times make sense when you are not discussing football. I’m always looking forward to read your comment not relating to football.

That is because you are emotional about football and your favourites, when you look at it without emotions you will realize that I am mostly right

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 6:49pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


That is because you are emotional about football and your favourites, when you look at it without emotions you will realize that I am mostly right


Dayo, do you believe in God?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by BEANSndPLANTAIN(m): 7:02pm On Oct 09, 2020
cry please who has a link I can use to watch NIGERIA match
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 7:05pm On Oct 09, 2020
HewlettPackard:
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I can attest to this. My brother is a victim.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 7:07pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


That is because you are emotional about football and your favourites, when you look at it without emotions you will realize that I am mostly right
Not true, you are sentimental and maligned players you don’t like due to club affiliation, even when they did well you don’t give kudos but have something negative to say in their off day.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:11pm On Oct 09, 2020
monerozi5590:
Dayo, do you believe in God?

Yes I do
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:15pm On Oct 09, 2020
hensben:
Not true, you are sentimental and maligned players you don’t like due to club affiliation, even when they did well you don’t give kudos but have something negative to say in their off day.

In Liverpool I like Salah and Mane but dont like VVD
In Chelsea I liked Lampard but do not like Terry
In Man Utd I liked Vidic but I do not like Rio
In City I like KDB but dont like Mendy
Even in my club there were players like Van Buyten Demichelis who I never really liked even later stage Ribery
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by monerozi5590: 7:25pm On Oct 09, 2020
raumdeuter:


Yes I do


Abortion, same sex marriage. God frown at such things.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 7:29pm On Oct 09, 2020
Sulele04:

no mind them na too much education cause am everybody sef wan form english, dey go dey analyze wetin dem no sabi.
is it today that they just want to start reforming sars, maybe when they reform sars 100times and they have killed almost half of our youths that is when their brain will start functioning.
REFORM SARS
ENDSARS.


You have to look at the standpoint of some of these SARS apologist, some are speaking from privilege positions, some have never really experienced the atrocities of the Criminal Unit or live/have lived in an environment that does. Some travel by Air so they don't really get a grasp of what these animals perpetuate on the highway. Some are living outside the country and think they know better on how to deal with animals we encounter on a daily.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by HewlettPackard: 7:31pm On Oct 09, 2020
2emotional:
I can attest to this. My brother is a victim.

Sorry bro, how is he?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:32pm On Oct 09, 2020
monerozi5590:
Abortion, same-sex marriage. God frown at such things.

I am not a religious fanatic to enforce a mother to carry a child to term against her wish or for deny someone who wants to put their dickks somewhere with another consenting adult

Its between them and God, I am not an administrator for God, If God really frowns at these, Let God deal with them the way he wants.
God is big enough to fight his fight
It's actually religious people who diminish God that think they have to defend God

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by 2emotional(m): 7:33pm On Oct 09, 2020
Segedinho:
Ending Sars would extremely b dangerous as they are the only people that gives Yahoo n d likes nightmares.

Reforming Sarz is just a "name change" as far as d corrupted a the criminaly minded ones are still in.

Can't even think of a better solution to this scene.

I have had a mild encounter with them and i was just smilling all tru even when their faces were as strong as olumo rocks(no smile at all).

They checked my fingers,my phones and were just looking for something to probably hold unto.

I am sure my smile sent a signal to them and they asked me leave...

They were really waiting for a mistake.

I think creating a new counter-sarz agency to monitor and checkmate their activities would go a long way but i fear Nigeria and corruption.

Like donjazet n raudmeter wrote earlier.

Those corrupt sarz are wellt trained in handling guns,also they are briefed Abt d best escape route for criminals wch we becomes handful for their quest to criminality when they are eventually kicked out as in #Endsars.

A very intelligent and carefully strategize plan is actually what Will take us out of this shit mine was months ago...they slapped hell out of my face. And made me cry. Was charging my phone at a bet house and they sorrounded everwhere ,few escaped but I was among those that was caught,they searched our phones,checked my fingers too and they were bombarding me with silly questions, when I found out that my smiles ain't touching them I started crying oooo( they threatened to lock me up.they slapped me whenever I ask them what my offense is.it was a sad experience. They released me after about 2hrs and few guys that has incriminating stuffs on their phones or pockets were packed on their hilux van....they told us that they would shoot us and nobody will question them...you can imagine men that are oozing of cigerates and ogogoro slapping a fresh dude like me to admit that I'm a smoker. Something should be done to stop these niggas....it is only guys in the south that can relate.


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